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00:02:35,205\n司法委員就是有關您提到壯士在金融金管會過去非常重視我們內部也開過好多次會剛剛那個委員您提到的就是有關這個我們今天討論的保險資金這是我們所有民眾已經運用完畢的資金交到保險公司手上只是過去大部分都放在海外去投資我們是希望說能夠加強對台灣的投資就是\n\n8\n00:02:36,520 --> 00:03:03,397\n這一錢跟我們閒置的壯世代資金有一點點差異它是我們已經是運用的資金只是交到這個機構投資人士保險公司手上那我們是希望它未來能夠有更多國內的投資機會然後讓我們的錢能夠支持國家的建設好謝謝謝謝主委然後又從這個中央銀行的這一張表裡面看出來我們從2010年累計到今年的第一季\n\n9\n00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:30,328\n禁流出的金額拉到了25兆就是剛才主委所說的因為國內缺乏投資的標的所以錢往外流那這個過去我們一直在談亞太金融中心一個我們台灣的發展的金融這個現在不曉得我們現在新的那個現在有什麼新的做法\n\n10\n00:03:30,948 --> 00:03:54,866\n是,跟委員報告一下,很多人提到過去我們的,提過很多台灣要成為各種中心都沒有成功。不過,我舉個簡單的例子,就是我們談AI其實在將近30年前就在談,一直都在談,為什麼最近有爆發,是的成長,因為很多的時機條件,觀念會先行,環境會跟上。就跟委員你提那個壯世代,可能20年前提大家沒有感覺。\n\n11\n00:03:55,626 --> 00:04:15,845\n你一直提,提到最後的時候大家就很有感。我想最近台灣所面臨到的情況,比如說以台灣的股市來看,過去台灣的股市在全世界其實沒有那麼重要性,現在已經大概是全世界第9名的股市了。這個在台灣以這樣的規模來講是非常非常不容易,而且讓全世界都看到台灣資產管理的這樣的一個機會,我想是因為時機的關係。\n\n12\n00:04:17,526 --> 00:04:43,508\n所以看起來我們有很多的理想都沒辦法實現這個剛才在教文委員會也是在談一個台灣以前電影是聯合國列為第三名的這個產品的優質度跟產出那現在已經排到後面最近辦了一個金曲獎就被罵死就是從一個文化大國變成一個文化小國那包括很多的偉大的\n\n13\n00:04:44,869 --> 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