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{\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:00,029 --> 00:00:10,901\n因委員之質詢以書面提出,請行政院書面答覆並列入紀錄刊登公報。下一位我們請林倩綺委員質詢。\n\n2\n00:00:30,733 --> 00:00:34,635\n謝謝主席,那我們請院長。來請卓院長備詢。院長好,一整天了,辛苦了。在今天進入有關於交通跟觀光今天這樣一個主題之前,我想要借禮拜二\n\n3\n00:00:53,188 --> 00:01:12,287\n我提的一個議題然後過渡到今天有關於就是交通相關的一個議題那禮拜二我提到了那個運動發展部的一個成立那這個部分我提醒院長一下就是在成立的這個過程當中不知道行政院這邊有沒有一個時間表\n\n4\n00:01:14,654 --> 00:01:38,455\n時間表因為牽扯到中央機關組織法的一個調整所以一定是要在大家有這樣的共識底下我們來提出但是內部就這個組織這個未來的這個部的一個組織的這個規劃我們都已經在進行那我希望能夠先把這個規劃向外界來說明那我預計大概在在8月的時候來做這樣子8、9月的時候看能不能有一個初步的規劃出來\n\n5\n00:01:39,076 --> 00:02:07,024\n好的謝謝本席這邊也知道你們有幾個規劃的一個跟大眾來做溝通的一個規劃設計那所以在這個部分我提出一個建議建議在明年的這個預算年度也就是明年在我們立法院的第四個會期那這邊能夠有很具體的一個結果那這樣在設立的一個期程上賴總統的政見是比較有機會完成的那這是本席的一個建議不曉得院長您的看法\n\n6\n00:02:07,324 --> 00:02:31,658\n我們朝這個目標跟時間來努力好的謝謝那從這個一個議題那我要先提醒一下有關於今天我們這個主要的議題在最近關於這個大家應該前幾天知道在新竹的這個新岳的這個沙灘這邊發生了一個有關於高中生汽水的一個狀況那在昨天的兩個人失聯\n\n7\n00:02:32,979 --> 00:02:33,019\n﹚林倩綺\n\n8\n00:02:54,280 --> 00:03:23,509\n行政院在整個的海岸的這個安全上有沒有什麼樣一個想法規劃讓大家在整個暑假能夠安全無虞這個西邊啊海邊啊經常在這個暑假發生這樣的遺憾的事情那我想地方政府也要跟中央政府一起合作是不是有充足的人力或是明顯的告示那麼以及在現場場地的維護等等這個都需要互相的來協助跟努力的\n\n9\n00:03:24,770 --> 00:03:40,084\n謝謝院長您講到一個重點那本席這邊有一個建議本席看到這樣一個問題其實很重要一點就您剛才也有講到有沒有充足的人力那所以暑假快到了這個其實跟教育有很大的一個關係也就是說在我們剛才講的這個體育署\n\n10\n00:03:41,846 --> 00:04:10,314\n那目前的一個在海岸的這個人力是不是足夠?現在可能在這個游泳池有很多的一個救援的人力那但是在沙灘海岸那這個跟觀光署有比較大的一個關係或是交通部很大一個關係你們在其實海岸的安全還有路上的安全其實有相關的這個單位去做處理那當然跟縣市政府要一起來共同的守護那這個部分不知道交通部現在對於這個暑假目前的一個規劃\n\n11\n00:04:12,126 --> 00:04:28,108\n我想我們會針對這些有民眾常遊棄的地方那跟地方政府大家來再做一次安全措施或是相關的安全的這個部分的這個評估跟跟這個維護的這個進一步的措施\n\n12\n00:04:29,108 --> 00:04:49,016\n謝謝部長,所以我這邊特別提醒,現在暑假已經開始了,所以可能在現在就趕快先來就這個部分,就是院裡面還有跟地方政府,那是不是交通部這邊來做一個主導,針對海岸的觀光,海岸的汐水,在暑假讓大家能夠有一個安全的暑期生活,好不好?\n\n13\n00:04:49,756 --> 00:05:07,922\n那這點希望那個交通部能夠更積極主動的來做那本席這邊有一個提醒那本席會這樣講是因為本席其實經常都在海岸這是本席那我是經常都在海上開帆船的所以對於海域的這個狀況本席略有所知所以剛才院長所提的這個人\n\n14\n00:05:09,182 --> 00:05:09,202\n﹚廣告\n\n15\n00:05:39,242 --> 00:05:39,322\n﹚林倩綺\n\n16\n00:06:00,054 --> 00:06:01,435\n目前在動的\n\n17\n00:06:15,809 --> 00:06:44,807\n這應該是我們不好意思上面也是本席本席在2021年在2021年那參加了這個100公里的這個自行車的挑戰那這個是本席所騎的每一段那不知道那個院長這邊有沒有看得出來其實在陸服的部分有很嚴重的這個衝擊也就是說基本上腳踏車很多時候是沒有地方可以騎的那我們接下來看下面一個這個是2024年那本席在過年的時候\n\n18\n00:06:45,307 --> 00:06:55,987\n也要親自再看一下我們的這個道路那不知道院長有沒有看出問題這邊有一個騎士騎自行車的那不曉得你有沒有發現他的周遭是什麼樣的狀況\n\n19\n00:06:57,857 --> 00:07:22,012\n大車的環圍繞當中是的大車就圍繞他那本席在全島這樣這不只參加過這一次那個200公里的也有挑戰過那本席就發現其實自行車的這個環境很不友善不僅是在市區那尤其是在這些部落園鄉還有這個台灣的公路都是一個很大的問題那我們再來看更可怕更危險的這個\n\n20\n00:07:24,275 --> 00:07:45,555\n接下來所看到的這個圖這個是在花林清水段來跟東澳南澳的這個路段那這已經是04、03之前的一個狀況了那04、03之後我們知道更辛苦了那過去還有人在騎現在可能很難騎那未來不知道怎麼騎那這個可能是交通部必須要去正視的一個問題\n\n21\n00:07:46,496 --> 00:07:48,137\n其實我們對自行車也都非常的愛好所以非常認同這句話就臺灣其實很美麗\n\n22\n00:08:10,667 --> 00:08:31,673\n現在我們有幾個計畫正在進行首先就是目前北海岸跟東北角除了河濱公園的自行車道是可以從淡水一直到河濱公園這是有被保護的車道可是本席還有參加一些比賽的時候事實上它不可能在比如說觀光局的這樣相關的這個場域裡面所以目前這個計畫裡面包括要從淡水做到基隆\n\n23\n00:08:36,954 --> 00:08:36,974\n﹚臺二線﹚\n\n24\n00:09:05,470 --> 00:09:30,848\n西濱其實現在已經從桃園到新竹甚至到苗栗都已經有專用道有一些道路是沒有連起來的本席在這邊做一些提醒那現在公路局正在處理這個部分他會配合西濱的一些改善把從巴黎巴黎的這個海港海岸這邊一直到苗栗都會有一個專用道來把它串聯\n\n25\n00:09:31,968 --> 00:09:55,962\n本席樂見這樣子的一個規劃,那也期待在規劃的時候能夠更細緻。那這個也在這個57億裡面會來達成。那剛剛提到最嚴重的就是疏花。對對對,那這一段我想可能這個交通部要結合路政司、觀光署還有相關的這個運營所此類等等。那這些單位其實要就不同的這種用路的這個方式來做相關的規劃。\n\n26\n00:09:57,003 --> 00:10:25,132\n那還有我們現在在做的花東景觀景觀快速景觀道路花東景觀道路兩旁都有留相關的自行車騎乘或者是人行的空間是那這邊我要跟部長提醒的就是說自行車還有人行其實在部落這個進入部落這個部分其實也是應該做一些相關的規劃那我們先談那個安全的問題那所以呢接下來給那個部長\n\n27\n00:10:25,712 --> 00:10:40,266\n還有院長這邊看一下這個是這幾年自行車的死亡跟受傷的一個數據所以如果未來有這樣一個計畫那是不是院長跟部長可以讓這樣一個死亡跟受傷的人數變少我想應該朝這樣一個數字的計畫目標去進行\n\n28\n00:10:44,943 --> 00:10:46,764\n接下來本席要談一個概念有關於\n\n29\n00:11:03,356 --> 00:11:30,160\n本席其實在上個會期也有談那這個會期再重新談一下然後目前先用這樣一個計畫跟名稱來講也就是一個福爾摩沙的徒步入網那我們知道交通部目前在自行車的這個部分也就是無動力啦也做了一些規劃那但是呢在徒步的這個部分有的時候不太友善那有的時候不太完備所以本席這邊提出可不可以透過目前已有的環島一號線然後跟台灣的長步道\n\n30\n00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:58,434\n那部長知不知道國家綠道有哪三條?國家級綠道原來規劃是七條。目前有三條嗎?現在有三條比較受歡迎。你有走過嗎?有部分有走過。你們部分走過,那本席走過一條。整整一條待會跟您分享。其中有一條是我在台南做的。就是山海關那一條嗎?對,山海郡。那有一個是張之隙道。那北邊就是淡蘭古道。\n\n31\n00:12:00,035 --> 00:12:00,095\n﹚林倩綺\n\n32\n00:12:19,645 --> 00:12:47,900\n好那這個是安全性的問題那第二個部分是部落間各位可以看一下那這個動態的這個部分因為setting的關係不好意思請院長又再那個歪一下頭看那我們在部落常常是車子也行然後部落的老人的兵士也要跟車子一起來共用這樣子的道路那部落間的這個路道安全也請交通部這邊再重新檢視村落跟部落裡面的\n\n33\n00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:48,420\n﹚林倩綺\n\n34\n00:13:03,637 --> 00:13:05,018\n世界文化遺產的聖亞各路本席已經走過了四條,走過四次\n\n35\n00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:37,663\n您講的這個7條國家綠道\n\n36\n00:14:03,592 --> 00:14:05,173\n我要對委員表示非常的敬佩你不僅這個文武雙全還是海陸健將\n\n37\n00:14:30,029 --> 00:14:46,238\n國家未來的國家級綠道除了剛剛部長講的4條以外,未來我們在台塘還有原住民古道還有吉良山脈這3條規劃中的那國發會我會請他學習委員剛剛講的那樣的精神跟規劃盡量以人安全為本的方式來做規劃。\n\n38\n00:14:46,958 --> 00:15:07,699\n最後一個提醒也就是其實我們走過這些道路然後不僅是水路還是道路能夠留下一些痕跡應該是我們人生很期待的一個事情所以大家可以去參考部裡面其實以前做過這個蓋章或者是每個地方跟地方的產業做一些聯動那這個部分其實是可以有更大的一個效果\n\n39\n00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:08,300\n﹚林倩綺\n\n40\n00:15:37,630 --> 00:15:42,855\n道昌市長,您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。\n\n41\n00:16:09,451 --> 00:16:09,472\n好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n29\t10901\t因委員之質詢以書面提出,請行政院書面答覆並列入紀錄刊登公報。下一位我們請林倩綺委員質詢。\n30733\t34635\t謝謝主席,那我們請院長。來請卓院長備詢。院長好,一整天了,辛苦了。在今天進入有關於交通跟觀光今天這樣一個主題之前,我想要借禮拜二\n53188\t72287\t我提的一個議題然後過渡到今天有關於就是交通相關的一個議題那禮拜二我提到了那個運動發展部的一個成立那這個部分我提醒院長一下就是在成立的這個過程當中不知道行政院這邊有沒有一個時間表\n74654\t98455\t時間表因為牽扯到中央機關組織法的一個調整所以一定是要在大家有這樣的共識底下我們來提出但是內部就這個組織這個未來的這個部的一個組織的這個規劃我們都已經在進行那我希望能夠先把這個規劃向外界來說明那我預計大概在在8月的時候來做這樣子8、9月的時候看能不能有一個初步的規劃出來\n99076\t127024\t好的謝謝本席這邊也知道你們有幾個規劃的一個跟大眾來做溝通的一個規劃設計那所以在這個部分我提出一個建議建議在明年的這個預算年度也就是明年在我們立法院的第四個會期那這邊能夠有很具體的一個結果那這樣在設立的一個期程上賴總統的政見是比較有機會完成的那這是本席的一個建議不曉得院長您的看法\n127324\t151658\t我們朝這個目標跟時間來努力好的謝謝那從這個一個議題那我要先提醒一下有關於今天我們這個主要的議題在最近關於這個大家應該前幾天知道在新竹的這個新岳的這個沙灘這邊發生了一個有關於高中生汽水的一個狀況那在昨天的兩個人失聯\n152979\t153019\t﹚林倩綺\n174280\t203509\t行政院在整個的海岸的這個安全上有沒有什麼樣一個想法規劃讓大家在整個暑假能夠安全無虞這個西邊啊海邊啊經常在這個暑假發生這樣的遺憾的事情那我想地方政府也要跟中央政府一起合作是不是有充足的人力或是明顯的告示那麼以及在現場場地的維護等等這個都需要互相的來協助跟努力的\n204770\t220084\t謝謝院長您講到一個重點那本席這邊有一個建議本席看到這樣一個問題其實很重要一點就您剛才也有講到有沒有充足的人力那所以暑假快到了這個其實跟教育有很大的一個關係也就是說在我們剛才講的這個體育署\n221846\t250314\t那目前的一個在海岸的這個人力是不是足夠?現在可能在這個游泳池有很多的一個救援的人力那但是在沙灘海岸那這個跟觀光署有比較大的一個關係或是交通部很大一個關係你們在其實海岸的安全還有路上的安全其實有相關的這個單位去做處理那當然跟縣市政府要一起來共同的守護那這個部分不知道交通部現在對於這個暑假目前的一個規劃\n252126\t268108\t我想我們會針對這些有民眾常遊棄的地方那跟地方政府大家來再做一次安全措施或是相關的安全的這個部分的這個評估跟跟這個維護的這個進一步的措施\n269108\t289016\t謝謝部長,所以我這邊特別提醒,現在暑假已經開始了,所以可能在現在就趕快先來就這個部分,就是院裡面還有跟地方政府,那是不是交通部這邊來做一個主導,針對海岸的觀光,海岸的汐水,在暑假讓大家能夠有一個安全的暑期生活,好不好?\n289756\t307922\t那這點希望那個交通部能夠更積極主動的來做那本席這邊有一個提醒那本席會這樣講是因為本席其實經常都在海岸這是本席那我是經常都在海上開帆船的所以對於海域的這個狀況本席略有所知所以剛才院長所提的這個人\n309182\t309202\t﹚廣告\n339242\t339322\t﹚林倩綺\n360054\t361435\t目前在動的\n375809\t404807\t這應該是我們不好意思上面也是本席本席在2021年在2021年那參加了這個100公里的這個自行車的挑戰那這個是本席所騎的每一段那不知道那個院長這邊有沒有看得出來其實在陸服的部分有很嚴重的這個衝擊也就是說基本上腳踏車很多時候是沒有地方可以騎的那我們接下來看下面一個這個是2024年那本席在過年的時候\n405307\t415987\t也要親自再看一下我們的這個道路那不知道院長有沒有看出問題這邊有一個騎士騎自行車的那不曉得你有沒有發現他的周遭是什麼樣的狀況\n417857\t442012\t大車的環圍繞當中是的大車就圍繞他那本席在全島這樣這不只參加過這一次那個200公里的也有挑戰過那本席就發現其實自行車的這個環境很不友善不僅是在市區那尤其是在這些部落園鄉還有這個台灣的公路都是一個很大的問題那我們再來看更可怕更危險的這個\n444275\t465555\t接下來所看到的這個圖這個是在花林清水段來跟東澳南澳的這個路段那這已經是04、03之前的一個狀況了那04、03之後我們知道更辛苦了那過去還有人在騎現在可能很難騎那未來不知道怎麼騎那這個可能是交通部必須要去正視的一個問題\n466496\t468137\t其實我們對自行車也都非常的愛好所以非常認同這句話就臺灣其實很美麗\n490667\t511673\t現在我們有幾個計畫正在進行首先就是目前北海岸跟東北角除了河濱公園的自行車道是可以從淡水一直到河濱公園這是有被保護的車道可是本席還有參加一些比賽的時候事實上它不可能在比如說觀光局的這樣相關的這個場域裡面所以目前這個計畫裡面包括要從淡水做到基隆\n516954\t516974\t﹚臺二線﹚\n545470\t570848\t西濱其實現在已經從桃園到新竹甚至到苗栗都已經有專用道有一些道路是沒有連起來的本席在這邊做一些提醒那現在公路局正在處理這個部分他會配合西濱的一些改善把從巴黎巴黎的這個海港海岸這邊一直到苗栗都會有一個專用道來把它串聯\n571968\t595962\t本席樂見這樣子的一個規劃,那也期待在規劃的時候能夠更細緻。那這個也在這個57億裡面會來達成。那剛剛提到最嚴重的就是疏花。對對對,那這一段我想可能這個交通部要結合路政司、觀光署還有相關的這個運營所此類等等。那這些單位其實要就不同的這種用路的這個方式來做相關的規劃。\n597003\t625132\t那還有我們現在在做的花東景觀景觀快速景觀道路花東景觀道路兩旁都有留相關的自行車騎乘或者是人行的空間是那這邊我要跟部長提醒的就是說自行車還有人行其實在部落這個進入部落這個部分其實也是應該做一些相關的規劃那我們先談那個安全的問題那所以呢接下來給那個部長\n625712\t640266\t還有院長這邊看一下這個是這幾年自行車的死亡跟受傷的一個數據所以如果未來有這樣一個計畫那是不是院長跟部長可以讓這樣一個死亡跟受傷的人數變少我想應該朝這樣一個數字的計畫目標去進行\n644943\t646764\t接下來本席要談一個概念有關於\n663356\t690160\t本席其實在上個會期也有談那這個會期再重新談一下然後目前先用這樣一個計畫跟名稱來講也就是一個福爾摩沙的徒步入網那我們知道交通部目前在自行車的這個部分也就是無動力啦也做了一些規劃那但是呢在徒步的這個部分有的時候不太友善那有的時候不太完備所以本席這邊提出可不可以透過目前已有的環島一號線然後跟台灣的長步道\n690640\t718434\t那部長知不知道國家綠道有哪三條?國家級綠道原來規劃是七條。目前有三條嗎?現在有三條比較受歡迎。你有走過嗎?有部分有走過。你們部分走過,那本席走過一條。整整一條待會跟您分享。其中有一條是我在台南做的。就是山海關那一條嗎?對,山海郡。那有一個是張之隙道。那北邊就是淡蘭古道。\n720035\t720095\t﹚林倩綺\n739645\t767900\t好那這個是安全性的問題那第二個部分是部落間各位可以看一下那這個動態的這個部分因為setting的關係不好意思請院長又再那個歪一下頭看那我們在部落常常是車子也行然後部落的老人的兵士也要跟車子一起來共用這樣子的道路那部落間的這個路道安全也請交通部這邊再重新檢視村落跟部落裡面的\n768320\t768420\t﹚林倩綺\n783637\t785018\t世界文化遺產的聖亞各路本席已經走過了四條,走過四次\n802466\t817483\t⋯⋯⋯⋯\n817483\t817663\t您講的這個7條國家綠道\n843592\t845173\t我要對委員表示非常的敬佩你不僅這個文武雙全還是海陸健將\n870029\t886238\t國家未來的國家級綠道除了剛剛部長講的4條以外,未來我們在台塘還有原住民古道還有吉良山脈這3條規劃中的那國發會我會請他學習委員剛剛講的那樣的精神跟規劃盡量以人安全為本的方式來做規劃。\n886958\t907699\t最後一個提醒也就是其實我們走過這些道路然後不僅是水路還是道路能夠留下一些痕跡應該是我們人生很期待的一個事情所以大家可以去參考部裡面其實以前做過這個蓋章或者是每個地方跟地方的產業做一些聯動那這個部分其實是可以有更大的一個效果\n908260\t908300\t﹚林倩綺\n937630\t942855\t道昌市長,您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。\n969451\t969472\t好謝謝\n","txt":"因委員之質詢以書面提出,請行政院書面答覆並列入紀錄刊登公報。下一位我們請林倩綺委員質詢。\n謝謝主席,那我們請院長。來請卓院長備詢。院長好,一整天了,辛苦了。在今天進入有關於交通跟觀光今天這樣一個主題之前,我想要借禮拜二\n我提的一個議題然後過渡到今天有關於就是交通相關的一個議題那禮拜二我提到了那個運動發展部的一個成立那這個部分我提醒院長一下就是在成立的這個過程當中不知道行政院這邊有沒有一個時間表\n時間表因為牽扯到中央機關組織法的一個調整所以一定是要在大家有這樣的共識底下我們來提出但是內部就這個組織這個未來的這個部的一個組織的這個規劃我們都已經在進行那我希望能夠先把這個規劃向外界來說明那我預計大概在在8月的時候來做這樣子8、9月的時候看能不能有一個初步的規劃出來\n好的謝謝本席這邊也知道你們有幾個規劃的一個跟大眾來做溝通的一個規劃設計那所以在這個部分我提出一個建議建議在明年的這個預算年度也就是明年在我們立法院的第四個會期那這邊能夠有很具體的一個結果那這樣在設立的一個期程上賴總統的政見是比較有機會完成的那這是本席的一個建議不曉得院長您的看法\n我們朝這個目標跟時間來努力好的謝謝那從這個一個議題那我要先提醒一下有關於今天我們這個主要的議題在最近關於這個大家應該前幾天知道在新竹的這個新岳的這個沙灘這邊發生了一個有關於高中生汽水的一個狀況那在昨天的兩個人失聯\n﹚林倩綺\n行政院在整個的海岸的這個安全上有沒有什麼樣一個想法規劃讓大家在整個暑假能夠安全無虞這個西邊啊海邊啊經常在這個暑假發生這樣的遺憾的事情那我想地方政府也要跟中央政府一起合作是不是有充足的人力或是明顯的告示那麼以及在現場場地的維護等等這個都需要互相的來協助跟努力的\n謝謝院長您講到一個重點那本席這邊有一個建議本席看到這樣一個問題其實很重要一點就您剛才也有講到有沒有充足的人力那所以暑假快到了這個其實跟教育有很大的一個關係也就是說在我們剛才講的這個體育署\n那目前的一個在海岸的這個人力是不是足夠?現在可能在這個游泳池有很多的一個救援的人力那但是在沙灘海岸那這個跟觀光署有比較大的一個關係或是交通部很大一個關係你們在其實海岸的安全還有路上的安全其實有相關的這個單位去做處理那當然跟縣市政府要一起來共同的守護那這個部分不知道交通部現在對於這個暑假目前的一個規劃\n我想我們會針對這些有民眾常遊棄的地方那跟地方政府大家來再做一次安全措施或是相關的安全的這個部分的這個評估跟跟這個維護的這個進一步的措施\n謝謝部長,所以我這邊特別提醒,現在暑假已經開始了,所以可能在現在就趕快先來就這個部分,就是院裡面還有跟地方政府,那是不是交通部這邊來做一個主導,針對海岸的觀光,海岸的汐水,在暑假讓大家能夠有一個安全的暑期生活,好不好?\n那這點希望那個交通部能夠更積極主動的來做那本席這邊有一個提醒那本席會這樣講是因為本席其實經常都在海岸這是本席那我是經常都在海上開帆船的所以對於海域的這個狀況本席略有所知所以剛才院長所提的這個人\n﹚廣告\n﹚林倩綺\n目前在動的\n這應該是我們不好意思上面也是本席本席在2021年在2021年那參加了這個100公里的這個自行車的挑戰那這個是本席所騎的每一段那不知道那個院長這邊有沒有看得出來其實在陸服的部分有很嚴重的這個衝擊也就是說基本上腳踏車很多時候是沒有地方可以騎的那我們接下來看下面一個這個是2024年那本席在過年的時候\n也要親自再看一下我們的這個道路那不知道院長有沒有看出問題這邊有一個騎士騎自行車的那不曉得你有沒有發現他的周遭是什麼樣的狀況\n大車的環圍繞當中是的大車就圍繞他那本席在全島這樣這不只參加過這一次那個200公里的也有挑戰過那本席就發現其實自行車的這個環境很不友善不僅是在市區那尤其是在這些部落園鄉還有這個台灣的公路都是一個很大的問題那我們再來看更可怕更危險的這個\n接下來所看到的這個圖這個是在花林清水段來跟東澳南澳的這個路段那這已經是04、03之前的一個狀況了那04、03之後我們知道更辛苦了那過去還有人在騎現在可能很難騎那未來不知道怎麼騎那這個可能是交通部必須要去正視的一個問題\n其實我們對自行車也都非常的愛好所以非常認同這句話就臺灣其實很美麗\n現在我們有幾個計畫正在進行首先就是目前北海岸跟東北角除了河濱公園的自行車道是可以從淡水一直到河濱公園這是有被保護的車道可是本席還有參加一些比賽的時候事實上它不可能在比如說觀光局的這樣相關的這個場域裡面所以目前這個計畫裡面包括要從淡水做到基隆\n﹚臺二線﹚\n西濱其實現在已經從桃園到新竹甚至到苗栗都已經有專用道有一些道路是沒有連起來的本席在這邊做一些提醒那現在公路局正在處理這個部分他會配合西濱的一些改善把從巴黎巴黎的這個海港海岸這邊一直到苗栗都會有一個專用道來把它串聯\n本席樂見這樣子的一個規劃,那也期待在規劃的時候能夠更細緻。那這個也在這個57億裡面會來達成。那剛剛提到最嚴重的就是疏花。對對對,那這一段我想可能這個交通部要結合路政司、觀光署還有相關的這個運營所此類等等。那這些單位其實要就不同的這種用路的這個方式來做相關的規劃。\n那還有我們現在在做的花東景觀景觀快速景觀道路花東景觀道路兩旁都有留相關的自行車騎乘或者是人行的空間是那這邊我要跟部長提醒的就是說自行車還有人行其實在部落這個進入部落這個部分其實也是應該做一些相關的規劃那我們先談那個安全的問題那所以呢接下來給那個部長\n還有院長這邊看一下這個是這幾年自行車的死亡跟受傷的一個數據所以如果未來有這樣一個計畫那是不是院長跟部長可以讓這樣一個死亡跟受傷的人數變少我想應該朝這樣一個數字的計畫目標去進行\n接下來本席要談一個概念有關於\n本席其實在上個會期也有談那這個會期再重新談一下然後目前先用這樣一個計畫跟名稱來講也就是一個福爾摩沙的徒步入網那我們知道交通部目前在自行車的這個部分也就是無動力啦也做了一些規劃那但是呢在徒步的這個部分有的時候不太友善那有的時候不太完備所以本席這邊提出可不可以透過目前已有的環島一號線然後跟台灣的長步道\n那部長知不知道國家綠道有哪三條?國家級綠道原來規劃是七條。目前有三條嗎?現在有三條比較受歡迎。你有走過嗎?有部分有走過。你們部分走過,那本席走過一條。整整一條待會跟您分享。其中有一條是我在台南做的。就是山海關那一條嗎?對,山海郡。那有一個是張之隙道。那北邊就是淡蘭古道。\n﹚林倩綺\n好那這個是安全性的問題那第二個部分是部落間各位可以看一下那這個動態的這個部分因為setting的關係不好意思請院長又再那個歪一下頭看那我們在部落常常是車子也行然後部落的老人的兵士也要跟車子一起來共用這樣子的道路那部落間的這個路道安全也請交通部這邊再重新檢視村落跟部落裡面的\n﹚林倩綺\n世界文化遺產的聖亞各路本席已經走過了四條,走過四次\n⋯⋯⋯⋯\n您講的這個7條國家綠道\n我要對委員表示非常的敬佩你不僅這個文武雙全還是海陸健將\n國家未來的國家級綠道除了剛剛部長講的4條以外,未來我們在台塘還有原住民古道還有吉良山脈這3條規劃中的那國發會我會請他學習委員剛剛講的那樣的精神跟規劃盡量以人安全為本的方式來做規劃。\n最後一個提醒也就是其實我們走過這些道路然後不僅是水路還是道路能夠留下一些痕跡應該是我們人生很期待的一個事情所以大家可以去參考部裡面其實以前做過這個蓋章或者是每個地方跟地方的產業做一些聯動那這個部分其實是可以有更大的一個效果\n﹚林倩綺\n道昌市長,您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。\n好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.029 --> 00:10.901\n因委員之質詢以書面提出,請行政院書面答覆並列入紀錄刊登公報。下一位我們請林倩綺委員質詢。\n\n00:30.733 --> 00:34.635\n謝謝主席,那我們請院長。來請卓院長備詢。院長好,一整天了,辛苦了。在今天進入有關於交通跟觀光今天這樣一個主題之前,我想要借禮拜二\n\n00:53.188 --> 01:12.287\n我提的一個議題然後過渡到今天有關於就是交通相關的一個議題那禮拜二我提到了那個運動發展部的一個成立那這個部分我提醒院長一下就是在成立的這個過程當中不知道行政院這邊有沒有一個時間表\n\n01:14.654 --> 01:38.455\n時間表因為牽扯到中央機關組織法的一個調整所以一定是要在大家有這樣的共識底下我們來提出但是內部就這個組織這個未來的這個部的一個組織的這個規劃我們都已經在進行那我希望能夠先把這個規劃向外界來說明那我預計大概在在8月的時候來做這樣子8、9月的時候看能不能有一個初步的規劃出來\n\n01:39.076 --> 02:07.024\n好的謝謝本席這邊也知道你們有幾個規劃的一個跟大眾來做溝通的一個規劃設計那所以在這個部分我提出一個建議建議在明年的這個預算年度也就是明年在我們立法院的第四個會期那這邊能夠有很具體的一個結果那這樣在設立的一個期程上賴總統的政見是比較有機會完成的那這是本席的一個建議不曉得院長您的看法\n\n02:07.324 --> 02:31.658\n我們朝這個目標跟時間來努力好的謝謝那從這個一個議題那我要先提醒一下有關於今天我們這個主要的議題在最近關於這個大家應該前幾天知道在新竹的這個新岳的這個沙灘這邊發生了一個有關於高中生汽水的一個狀況那在昨天的兩個人失聯\n\n02:32.979 --> 02:33.019\n﹚林倩綺\n\n02:54.280 --> 03:23.509\n行政院在整個的海岸的這個安全上有沒有什麼樣一個想法規劃讓大家在整個暑假能夠安全無虞這個西邊啊海邊啊經常在這個暑假發生這樣的遺憾的事情那我想地方政府也要跟中央政府一起合作是不是有充足的人力或是明顯的告示那麼以及在現場場地的維護等等這個都需要互相的來協助跟努力的\n\n03:24.770 --> 03:40.084\n謝謝院長您講到一個重點那本席這邊有一個建議本席看到這樣一個問題其實很重要一點就您剛才也有講到有沒有充足的人力那所以暑假快到了這個其實跟教育有很大的一個關係也就是說在我們剛才講的這個體育署\n\n03:41.846 --> 04:10.314\n那目前的一個在海岸的這個人力是不是足夠?現在可能在這個游泳池有很多的一個救援的人力那但是在沙灘海岸那這個跟觀光署有比較大的一個關係或是交通部很大一個關係你們在其實海岸的安全還有路上的安全其實有相關的這個單位去做處理那當然跟縣市政府要一起來共同的守護那這個部分不知道交通部現在對於這個暑假目前的一個規劃\n\n04:12.126 --> 04:28.108\n我想我們會針對這些有民眾常遊棄的地方那跟地方政府大家來再做一次安全措施或是相關的安全的這個部分的這個評估跟跟這個維護的這個進一步的措施\n\n04:29.108 --> 04:49.016\n謝謝部長,所以我這邊特別提醒,現在暑假已經開始了,所以可能在現在就趕快先來就這個部分,就是院裡面還有跟地方政府,那是不是交通部這邊來做一個主導,針對海岸的觀光,海岸的汐水,在暑假讓大家能夠有一個安全的暑期生活,好不好?\n\n04:49.756 --> 05:07.922\n那這點希望那個交通部能夠更積極主動的來做那本席這邊有一個提醒那本席會這樣講是因為本席其實經常都在海岸這是本席那我是經常都在海上開帆船的所以對於海域的這個狀況本席略有所知所以剛才院長所提的這個人\n\n05:09.182 --> 05:09.202\n﹚廣告\n\n05:39.242 --> 05:39.322\n﹚林倩綺\n\n06:00.054 --> 06:01.435\n目前在動的\n\n06:15.809 --> 06:44.807\n這應該是我們不好意思上面也是本席本席在2021年在2021年那參加了這個100公里的這個自行車的挑戰那這個是本席所騎的每一段那不知道那個院長這邊有沒有看得出來其實在陸服的部分有很嚴重的這個衝擊也就是說基本上腳踏車很多時候是沒有地方可以騎的那我們接下來看下面一個這個是2024年那本席在過年的時候\n\n06:45.307 --> 06:55.987\n也要親自再看一下我們的這個道路那不知道院長有沒有看出問題這邊有一個騎士騎自行車的那不曉得你有沒有發現他的周遭是什麼樣的狀況\n\n06:57.857 --> 07:22.012\n大車的環圍繞當中是的大車就圍繞他那本席在全島這樣這不只參加過這一次那個200公里的也有挑戰過那本席就發現其實自行車的這個環境很不友善不僅是在市區那尤其是在這些部落園鄉還有這個台灣的公路都是一個很大的問題那我們再來看更可怕更危險的這個\n\n07:24.275 --> 07:45.555\n接下來所看到的這個圖這個是在花林清水段來跟東澳南澳的這個路段那這已經是04、03之前的一個狀況了那04、03之後我們知道更辛苦了那過去還有人在騎現在可能很難騎那未來不知道怎麼騎那這個可能是交通部必須要去正視的一個問題\n\n07:46.496 --> 07:48.137\n其實我們對自行車也都非常的愛好所以非常認同這句話就臺灣其實很美麗\n\n08:10.667 --> 08:31.673\n現在我們有幾個計畫正在進行首先就是目前北海岸跟東北角除了河濱公園的自行車道是可以從淡水一直到河濱公園這是有被保護的車道可是本席還有參加一些比賽的時候事實上它不可能在比如說觀光局的這樣相關的這個場域裡面所以目前這個計畫裡面包括要從淡水做到基隆\n\n08:36.954 --> 08:36.974\n﹚臺二線﹚\n\n09:05.470 --> 09:30.848\n西濱其實現在已經從桃園到新竹甚至到苗栗都已經有專用道有一些道路是沒有連起來的本席在這邊做一些提醒那現在公路局正在處理這個部分他會配合西濱的一些改善把從巴黎巴黎的這個海港海岸這邊一直到苗栗都會有一個專用道來把它串聯\n\n09:31.968 --> 09:55.962\n本席樂見這樣子的一個規劃,那也期待在規劃的時候能夠更細緻。那這個也在這個57億裡面會來達成。那剛剛提到最嚴重的就是疏花。對對對,那這一段我想可能這個交通部要結合路政司、觀光署還有相關的這個運營所此類等等。那這些單位其實要就不同的這種用路的這個方式來做相關的規劃。\n\n09:57.003 --> 10:25.132\n那還有我們現在在做的花東景觀景觀快速景觀道路花東景觀道路兩旁都有留相關的自行車騎乘或者是人行的空間是那這邊我要跟部長提醒的就是說自行車還有人行其實在部落這個進入部落這個部分其實也是應該做一些相關的規劃那我們先談那個安全的問題那所以呢接下來給那個部長\n\n10:25.712 --> 10:40.266\n還有院長這邊看一下這個是這幾年自行車的死亡跟受傷的一個數據所以如果未來有這樣一個計畫那是不是院長跟部長可以讓這樣一個死亡跟受傷的人數變少我想應該朝這樣一個數字的計畫目標去進行\n\n10:44.943 --> 10:46.764\n接下來本席要談一個概念有關於\n\n11:03.356 --> 11:30.160\n本席其實在上個會期也有談那這個會期再重新談一下然後目前先用這樣一個計畫跟名稱來講也就是一個福爾摩沙的徒步入網那我們知道交通部目前在自行車的這個部分也就是無動力啦也做了一些規劃那但是呢在徒步的這個部分有的時候不太友善那有的時候不太完備所以本席這邊提出可不可以透過目前已有的環島一號線然後跟台灣的長步道\n\n11:30.640 --> 11:58.434\n那部長知不知道國家綠道有哪三條?國家級綠道原來規劃是七條。目前有三條嗎?現在有三條比較受歡迎。你有走過嗎?有部分有走過。你們部分走過,那本席走過一條。整整一條待會跟您分享。其中有一條是我在台南做的。就是山海關那一條嗎?對,山海郡。那有一個是張之隙道。那北邊就是淡蘭古道。\n\n12:00.035 --> 12:00.095\n﹚林倩綺\n\n12:19.645 --> 12:47.900\n好那這個是安全性的問題那第二個部分是部落間各位可以看一下那這個動態的這個部分因為setting的關係不好意思請院長又再那個歪一下頭看那我們在部落常常是車子也行然後部落的老人的兵士也要跟車子一起來共用這樣子的道路那部落間的這個路道安全也請交通部這邊再重新檢視村落跟部落裡面的\n\n12:48.320 --> 12:48.420\n﹚林倩綺\n\n13:03.637 --> 13:05.018\n世界文化遺產的聖亞各路本席已經走過了四條,走過四次\n\n13:37.483 --> 13:37.663\n您講的這個7條國家綠道\n\n14:03.592 --> 14:05.173\n我要對委員表示非常的敬佩你不僅這個文武雙全還是海陸健將\n\n14:30.029 --> 14:46.238\n國家未來的國家級綠道除了剛剛部長講的4條以外,未來我們在台塘還有原住民古道還有吉良山脈這3條規劃中的那國發會我會請他學習委員剛剛講的那樣的精神跟規劃盡量以人安全為本的方式來做規劃。\n\n14:46.958 --> 15:07.699\n最後一個提醒也就是其實我們走過這些道路然後不僅是水路還是道路能夠留下一些痕跡應該是我們人生很期待的一個事情所以大家可以去參考部裡面其實以前做過這個蓋章或者是每個地方跟地方的產業做一些聯動那這個部分其實是可以有更大的一個效果\n\n15:08.260 --> 15:08.300\n﹚林倩綺\n\n15:37.630 --> 15:42.855\n道昌市長,您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。您的報告是關於道昌市的經濟問題。\n\n16:09.451 --> 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