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00:04:01,597\n因為押標金這個也是一個很好的過程但是他要有一個前提他有什麼前提呢也就是說我們商業銀行的存款呢必須要代幣化那這個工程會比較大\n\n12\n00:04:07,462 --> 00:04:25,482\n那這個數位券的這個工程比較簡單所以如果說我們要試驗然後我們是從這一步踏出去的話也許對我們來講的話第一個我們比較有信心第二個比較容易做\n\n13\n00:04:26,124 --> 00:04:30,825\n所以確實有這樣的一個構成對不對?是是是是我覺得世界各國因為確實大家都已經美國、英國、歐盟、日本、韓國其實都有很具體的一些進程他們的時間包含中國大陸他們也開始有一些包含一般的大眾或者企業他有所謂的試點所以我才講說我們的試點會不會放在一個政府的押標金然後呢總裁\n\n14\n00:04:55,029 --> 00:05:13,749\n因為我們前不久提出了我們有關於就是要抑制房價的這個信用管制可是我們看到最新的有關於及時房價的指數那麼以今年第二季來看那事實上如果跟去年第二季來比較\n\n15\n00:05:14,730 --> 00:05:33,000\n全台灣這樣子的年增率仍然高達9.5%的漲幅所以也就是說我們一直要打房當然你說不是打房是打炒房隨便啦就是要抑制房價因為這兩年房價實在飆升的太多\n\n16\n00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:50,840\n可是看起來如果以第二季的數字來說房價依然在飆升即便跟前一季也就是今年的第二季跟第一季的比較全台灣的漲幅也高達了4.7%其中新北市達到6.3%新竹縣市達到6.8%\n\n17\n00:05:54,804 --> 00:06:13,281\n所以我想請教總裁你對於我們中央銀行所提出來的打房的措施到目前為止你感到滿意嗎?你感到有收到成效嗎?我跟委員報告就是說中央銀行必須要\n\n18\n00:06:15,134 --> 00:06:37,281\n必須要做我們該做的事情但是行政院的一個健全房地產市場的一個方案這是各部會的共同要努力的目標所以也就是說剛剛委員在講到說這個房價飆漲事實上我們看了我們也都是很警惕的\n\n19\n00:06:37,941 --> 00:06:38,662\n有沒有心驚膽跳?穩定物價才是你們的目標?\n\n20\n00:06:54,437 --> 00:07:15,827\n您的房價是不是會導致它泡沫而讓我們的金融業我們的銀行業呢因為他房價下跌了以後呢他沒辦法承受那些的損失然後導致這個金融的穩定總裁你講的話我一半同意啊一半不同意\n\n21\n00:07:16,947 --> 00:07:45,976\n同意的部分沒有錯其實我們很多的政策不是只有央行的信用管制的措施才能夠收到成效比如說像新青安現在幾乎都可以確定新青安就是這兩年助長房價的一個非常重要的推手而且我們非常擔心五年之後問題就會出現我昨天還在聽說某一個企業的員工夫婦兩個人新婚結果新青安呢\n\n22\n00:07:47,016 --> 00:07:58,689\n老婆去帶了一個房子買了一個房子後來先生說感覺好便宜然後先生也趕快再去帶了新清安就是說明明他們只要買一棟房結果他們因為新清安讓他可以去投資一棟房\n\n23\n00:08:04,555 --> 00:08:16,264\n新青安確實有問題但是現在新青安也在做一些整頓另外其實像我們房地合一歲當然希望當時草房不要大家的轉手太過頻繁但是它發生什麼狀況呢現在\n\n24\n00:08:20,407 --> 00:08:20,927\n王鴻薇議員\n\n25\n00:08:40,939 --> 00:08:41,139\n王鴻薇議員\n\n26\n00:09:02,489 --> 00:09:02,849\n現在呢﹖我們就接到很多的陳情﹖\n\n27\n00:09:20,815 --> 00:09:30,949\n不是建商告買房的人買房的人告建商互相告啊因為他當時去買房的時候他不曉得他貸款成數會變這麼低所以其實我當時有跟央行來協調\n\n28\n00:09:33,821 --> 00:09:51,447\n這個措施我支持但是你的實施點你要考慮到當時他去買這個房子的時候他不知道他貸款成數會降那麼低結果現在在現場第一線產生了很多的一些困擾跟爭議好我剩最後一點時間來我覺得很重要的\n\n29\n00:09:52,367 --> 00:10:12,842\n日圓貶值到目前我等了老半天只有一家車商我也不要幫他做廣告啦我覺得他本來就應該降價但他至少降價開第一槍日系產品沒有人降價欸啊怎麼會這樣以前起碼要喝咖啡啊啊我也公開喊話我說經濟部你趕快去請這些廠商喝咖啡咖啡錢我來出沒有問題\n\n30\n00:10:13,863 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