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00:00:43,500\n部長好在進入今天的質詢主題之前先謝謝禮拜一的一個臺中捷運的考察那部長在事後也有發臉書也有圖卡就是支持臺中的捷運五線齊發那能夠讓臺中更進步那中央全力支持那我是希望再借重中央的經驗就是說其他城市的捷運入網尤其像臺北市已經成行那我們希望未來能夠\n\n3\n00:00:45,081 --> 00:01:13,887\n參考其他城市的經驗那請中央也跟地方一起把我們台中捷運的五線齊發的一個財務的規劃要如何穩健然後能夠落實而且中央全力支持這個我希望將來部長可以中央的立場跟經驗來支持地方而且給地方一個充分的一個意見好不好這是一個提醒第二個我們今天談TPASS那事實上TPASS就\n\n4\n00:01:15,254 --> 00:01:42,154\n跟剛剛我講的捷運其實有關係的T-PASS如果要真正達到它最大的一個經濟效應那它前提必須不管軟硬體的一個交通基礎運輸是必須要完善的那以台中來講現在有鐵道公路捷運只有一條但是我們也很高興在中央的支持之下我們看到這個數據是來自於交通部公路局的\n\n5\n00:01:42,694 --> 00:01:43,675\n臺中的增加率是最高的\n\n6\n00:01:58,462 --> 00:01:59,784\n本來就是充分的使用那所以呢雖然他的成長比較少但是還是有成長\n\n7\n00:02:15,665 --> 00:02:32,752\n南部也相對的成長的算不錯將近150、140幾所以以TPASS這樣子的一個公共政策行政院的決定是對的他的決策是對的而且真的是對我們全台灣的\n\n8\n00:02:33,652 --> 00:02:55,368\n北中南的公共運輸是有增加成長的趨勢尤其台中增加了2.3倍所以我必須要先謝謝行政院謝謝交通部那接著我們就要來討論那執行一年像我剛剛講都有提升但是台中提升這麼大的情況之下我們捷運還是只有一條線\n\n9\n00:02:57,969 --> 00:03:25,808\n我期許在剛剛我講的中央能夠努力的支持臺中捷運入網成型而且能夠五線齊發能夠完成除了穩健的財務規劃中央要支持以外最重要的是未來的TPASS的一個政策的延續永續還有是不是有其他加碼的可能性來全力支持臺中的這個公共運輸還有我們的TPASS政策可以在\n\n10\n00:03:26,368 --> 00:03:26,869\n後續我們覺得也\n\n11\n00:03:45,751 --> 00:04:04,507\n交通部也會來跟院裡面院裡面我認為也是支持的就繼續的來持續延續這樣的政策那但是確實是後續怎麼樣能夠再更精進讓使用率更高那提升大眾運輸的這個這個搭乘我想還有很多各方面的努力要\n\n12\n00:04:04,687 --> 00:04:18,443\n其實還有很多可以檢討的空間還可以再努力第一個使用的便利性第二個這個要便利性的軟硬體我剛剛一開頭所講的軟硬體設施都要到位要夠完善\n\n13\n00:04:20,064 --> 00:04:33,990\n當然我們一般民眾他會使用這個公共運輸的意願就會提高意願提高再加上政府的政策決策的一個引導跟配合跟補助那當然才會\n\n14\n00:04:34,850 --> 00:04:59,589\n改變國人的交通習慣使用習慣這個在台中尤其重要尤其台中的人口正在成長已經是全國的第二大城市如果再加上其他中部的縣市事實上是數百萬的人口的移動人口在這個台中都會需再移動所以這個要拜託部長一定要支持也要求行政院來支持\n\n15\n00:05:00,089 --> 00:05:22,492\n那接下來我就要跟你講說那既然台中是全國的第二大城市人口又在成長那加上我們這幾年來對於爭取國內外的觀光客來台中也是我們的城市行銷一個最重要的策略之一那除了台中市自己本身要努力之外接著就是什麼交通基礎設施到底方不方便\n\n16\n00:05:23,513 --> 00:05:43,432\n我們現在看到以這個捷運路網這個是我們未來的願景圖剛剛講的五線齊發在還沒有只有一個一條綠線的情況之下公路跟鐵路是現在接柏進市區的重要選項那尤其是鐵路尤其現在你看到從清泉崗機場要進來市區\n\n17\n00:05:46,807 --> 00:06:09,740\n是非常不方便還不方便那我們高鐵呢從新烏日站要進市區也不是很有善之前我曾經跟杜董事長提過包括班次的增加那班次的增加呢就要什麼就要因為新烏日站叫做三鐵共購在三鐵共購的情況之下我們不僅僅是雙鐵啦我現在只是今天只是講雙鐵事實上連捷運的便利性都未來要納進去\n\n18\n00:06:15,443 --> 00:06:42,998\n這樣子呢國內外的旅客選擇臺中這個城市要來觀光旅遊的時候他才會方便啦方便的時候那才能夠有正向的一個循環吸引更多人來臺中嘛對不對我今天只是稍微把這個高鐵的到站的時刻從早上到下午跟那台鐵在新烏日站的一個區間車的一個發車的時刻我只是稍微比對了一下啦事實上我覺得這個等待的時間算長\n\n19\n00:06:44,139 --> 00:07:10,095\n而且還可以再改進經濟就是銜接啦那個班車與班車之間的銜接我們是不是第一個我的建議有沒有可能呢是不是盤點像台北火車站也好或者日本東京車站也好或者是呢國外的各個國家的一個主要的一個轉運車站轉協車站也好我們去看看別人的經驗怎麼樣的一個等候的時間轉協的時間是\n\n20\n00:07:12,697 --> 00:07:12,837\n何欣純議員\n\n21\n00:07:29,810 --> 00:07:30,150\n先請董事長回答好了\n\n22\n00:07:50,931 --> 00:08:09,339\n跟委員報告的確最近我們高鐵還有增班是高鐵7月開始要再增43班對所以在這個情況之下我們這個提供的我們的接駁的車輛我們會來跟高鐵配合來研議看怎麼樣來調整這個間距\n\n23\n00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:40,587\n部長你就希望要求這個台鐵基於專業而且他必須要跨雙鐵來協調那如果更進一步的話還要跟地方政府捷運來做協調那如何讓這個轉成轉弦的這個不僅僅是空間的一個問題還有時間的拿捏問題那甚至牽涉到這個山鐵公共裡面的車站裡面的營運的問題那我相信這個是\n\n24\n00:08:41,707 --> 00:09:07,052\n可以有其他的經驗來研議再加上我再提醒雖然是兩年後會發生的事情再提醒一次高鐵車站外我們鐵道局招商的全亞洲最大的shoppingmall2026要開張我們要有預期心理現在就要逐步的來調整來面對因應你兩年後\n\n25\n00:09:08,427 --> 00:09:31,646\n那一個全亞洲最大的娛樂城如果真的完工開始啟用了之後他未來的人潮車潮是遠遠數倍於現在的規模那我們又該如何因應所以我再一次很誠懇的提醒啦好不好逐步的來調整逐步的以其他各車站的一個經驗來做最恰當的調整好不好\n\n26\n00:09:31,966 --> 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00:10:05,226\n那另外那個全國最大這個shoppingmall目前有一個專案在研擬在評估周遭的交通怎麼樣能夠不至於造成這個對很大的這個交通的負擔是好不好好謝謝部長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4295\t7106\t好謝謝李昭薇我們請部長請李部長\n16166\t43500\t部長好在進入今天的質詢主題之前先謝謝禮拜一的一個臺中捷運的考察那部長在事後也有發臉書也有圖卡就是支持臺中的捷運五線齊發那能夠讓臺中更進步那中央全力支持那我是希望再借重中央的經驗就是說其他城市的捷運入網尤其像臺北市已經成行那我們希望未來能夠\n45081\t73887\t參考其他城市的經驗那請中央也跟地方一起把我們台中捷運的五線齊發的一個財務的規劃要如何穩健然後能夠落實而且中央全力支持這個我希望將來部長可以中央的立場跟經驗來支持地方而且給地方一個充分的一個意見好不好這是一個提醒第二個我們今天談TPASS那事實上TPASS就\n75254\t102154\t跟剛剛我講的捷運其實有關係的T-PASS如果要真正達到它最大的一個經濟效應那它前提必須不管軟硬體的一個交通基礎運輸是必須要完善的那以台中來講現在有鐵道公路捷運只有一條但是我們也很高興在中央的支持之下我們看到這個數據是來自於交通部公路局的\n102694\t103675\t臺中的增加率是最高的\n118462\t119784\t本來就是充分的使用那所以呢雖然他的成長比較少但是還是有成長\n135665\t152752\t南部也相對的成長的算不錯將近150、140幾所以以TPASS這樣子的一個公共政策行政院的決定是對的他的決策是對的而且真的是對我們全台灣的\n153652\t175368\t北中南的公共運輸是有增加成長的趨勢尤其台中增加了2.3倍所以我必須要先謝謝行政院謝謝交通部那接著我們就要來討論那執行一年像我剛剛講都有提升但是台中提升這麼大的情況之下我們捷運還是只有一條線\n177969\t205808\t我期許在剛剛我講的中央能夠努力的支持臺中捷運入網成型而且能夠五線齊發能夠完成除了穩健的財務規劃中央要支持以外最重要的是未來的TPASS的一個政策的延續永續還有是不是有其他加碼的可能性來全力支持臺中的這個公共運輸還有我們的TPASS政策可以在\n206368\t206869\t後續我們覺得也\n225751\t244507\t交通部也會來跟院裡面院裡面我認為也是支持的就繼續的來持續延續這樣的政策那但是確實是後續怎麼樣能夠再更精進讓使用率更高那提升大眾運輸的這個這個搭乘我想還有很多各方面的努力要\n244687\t258443\t其實還有很多可以檢討的空間還可以再努力第一個使用的便利性第二個這個要便利性的軟硬體我剛剛一開頭所講的軟硬體設施都要到位要夠完善\n260064\t273990\t當然我們一般民眾他會使用這個公共運輸的意願就會提高意願提高再加上政府的政策決策的一個引導跟配合跟補助那當然才會\n274850\t299589\t改變國人的交通習慣使用習慣這個在台中尤其重要尤其台中的人口正在成長已經是全國的第二大城市如果再加上其他中部的縣市事實上是數百萬的人口的移動人口在這個台中都會需再移動所以這個要拜託部長一定要支持也要求行政院來支持\n300089\t322492\t那接下來我就要跟你講說那既然台中是全國的第二大城市人口又在成長那加上我們這幾年來對於爭取國內外的觀光客來台中也是我們的城市行銷一個最重要的策略之一那除了台中市自己本身要努力之外接著就是什麼交通基礎設施到底方不方便\n323513\t343432\t我們現在看到以這個捷運路網這個是我們未來的願景圖剛剛講的五線齊發在還沒有只有一個一條綠線的情況之下公路跟鐵路是現在接柏進市區的重要選項那尤其是鐵路尤其現在你看到從清泉崗機場要進來市區\n346807\t369740\t是非常不方便還不方便那我們高鐵呢從新烏日站要進市區也不是很有善之前我曾經跟杜董事長提過包括班次的增加那班次的增加呢就要什麼就要因為新烏日站叫做三鐵共購在三鐵共購的情況之下我們不僅僅是雙鐵啦我現在只是今天只是講雙鐵事實上連捷運的便利性都未來要納進去\n375443\t402998\t這樣子呢 國內外的旅客選擇臺中這個城市要來觀光旅遊的時候他才會方便啦方便的時候那才能夠有正向的一個循環吸引更多人來臺中嘛 對不對我今天只是稍微把這個高鐵的到站的時刻從早上到下午跟那台鐵在新烏日站的一個區間車的一個發車的時刻我只是稍微比對了一下啦事實上我覺得這個等待的時間算長\n404139\t430095\t而且還可以再改進經濟就是銜接啦那個班車與班車之間的銜接我們是不是第一個我的建議有沒有可能呢是不是盤點像台北火車站也好或者日本東京車站也好或者是呢國外的各個國家的一個主要的一個轉運車站轉協車站也好我們去看看別人的經驗怎麼樣的一個等候的時間轉協的時間是\n432697\t432837\t何欣純議員\n449810\t450150\t先請董事長回答好了\n470931\t489339\t跟委員報告的確最近我們高鐵還有增班是高鐵7月開始要再增43班對所以在這個情況之下我們這個提供的我們的接駁的車輛我們會來跟高鐵配合來研議看怎麼樣來調整這個間距\n491880\t520587\t部長你就希望要求這個台鐵基於專業而且他必須要跨雙鐵來協調那如果更進一步的話還要跟地方政府捷運來做協調那如何讓這個轉成轉弦的這個不僅僅是空間的一個問題還有時間的拿捏問題那甚至牽涉到這個山鐵公共裡面的車站裡面的營運的問題那我相信這個是\n521707\t547052\t可以有其他的經驗來研議再加上我再提醒雖然是兩年後會發生的事情再提醒一次高鐵車站外我們鐵道局招商的全亞洲最大的shopping mall2026要開張我們要有預期心理現在就要逐步的來調整來面對因應你兩年後\n548427\t571646\t那一個全亞洲最大的娛樂城如果真的完工開始啟用了之後他未來的人潮車潮是遠遠數倍於現在的規模那我們又該如何因應所以我再一次很誠懇的提醒啦好不好逐步的來調整逐步的以其他各車站的一個經驗來做最恰當的調整好不好\n571966\t592596\t我想這個部分台鐵會請台鐵跟高鐵密切合作不要讓下了高鐵的乘客轉搭台鐵那等候過久那這樣就會失去接駁什麼樣是適當的等候時間我覺得這個是可以有大數據或是其他各國的大車站可以來做一個比較或者是來汲取他們的經驗嗎好不好\n592796\t605226\t那另外那個全國最大這個shopping mall目前有一個專案在研擬在評估周遭的交通怎麼樣能夠不至於造成這個對很大的這個交通的負擔是好不好好謝謝部長\n","txt":"好謝謝李昭薇我們請部長請李部長\n部長好在進入今天的質詢主題之前先謝謝禮拜一的一個臺中捷運的考察那部長在事後也有發臉書也有圖卡就是支持臺中的捷運五線齊發那能夠讓臺中更進步那中央全力支持那我是希望再借重中央的經驗就是說其他城市的捷運入網尤其像臺北市已經成行那我們希望未來能夠\n參考其他城市的經驗那請中央也跟地方一起把我們台中捷運的五線齊發的一個財務的規劃要如何穩健然後能夠落實而且中央全力支持這個我希望將來部長可以中央的立場跟經驗來支持地方而且給地方一個充分的一個意見好不好這是一個提醒第二個我們今天談TPASS那事實上TPASS就\n跟剛剛我講的捷運其實有關係的T-PASS如果要真正達到它最大的一個經濟效應那它前提必須不管軟硬體的一個交通基礎運輸是必須要完善的那以台中來講現在有鐵道公路捷運只有一條但是我們也很高興在中央的支持之下我們看到這個數據是來自於交通部公路局的\n臺中的增加率是最高的\n本來就是充分的使用那所以呢雖然他的成長比較少但是還是有成長\n南部也相對的成長的算不錯將近150、140幾所以以TPASS這樣子的一個公共政策行政院的決定是對的他的決策是對的而且真的是對我們全台灣的\n北中南的公共運輸是有增加成長的趨勢尤其台中增加了2.3倍所以我必須要先謝謝行政院謝謝交通部那接著我們就要來討論那執行一年像我剛剛講都有提升但是台中提升這麼大的情況之下我們捷運還是只有一條線\n我期許在剛剛我講的中央能夠努力的支持臺中捷運入網成型而且能夠五線齊發能夠完成除了穩健的財務規劃中央要支持以外最重要的是未來的TPASS的一個政策的延續永續還有是不是有其他加碼的可能性來全力支持臺中的這個公共運輸還有我們的TPASS政策可以在\n後續我們覺得也\n交通部也會來跟院裡面院裡面我認為也是支持的就繼續的來持續延續這樣的政策那但是確實是後續怎麼樣能夠再更精進讓使用率更高那提升大眾運輸的這個這個搭乘我想還有很多各方面的努力要\n其實還有很多可以檢討的空間還可以再努力第一個使用的便利性第二個這個要便利性的軟硬體我剛剛一開頭所講的軟硬體設施都要到位要夠完善\n當然我們一般民眾他會使用這個公共運輸的意願就會提高意願提高再加上政府的政策決策的一個引導跟配合跟補助那當然才會\n改變國人的交通習慣使用習慣這個在台中尤其重要尤其台中的人口正在成長已經是全國的第二大城市如果再加上其他中部的縣市事實上是數百萬的人口的移動人口在這個台中都會需再移動所以這個要拜託部長一定要支持也要求行政院來支持\n那接下來我就要跟你講說那既然台中是全國的第二大城市人口又在成長那加上我們這幾年來對於爭取國內外的觀光客來台中也是我們的城市行銷一個最重要的策略之一那除了台中市自己本身要努力之外接著就是什麼交通基礎設施到底方不方便\n我們現在看到以這個捷運路網這個是我們未來的願景圖剛剛講的五線齊發在還沒有只有一個一條綠線的情況之下公路跟鐵路是現在接柏進市區的重要選項那尤其是鐵路尤其現在你看到從清泉崗機場要進來市區\n是非常不方便還不方便那我們高鐵呢從新烏日站要進市區也不是很有善之前我曾經跟杜董事長提過包括班次的增加那班次的增加呢就要什麼就要因為新烏日站叫做三鐵共購在三鐵共購的情況之下我們不僅僅是雙鐵啦我現在只是今天只是講雙鐵事實上連捷運的便利性都未來要納進去\n這樣子呢 國內外的旅客選擇臺中這個城市要來觀光旅遊的時候他才會方便啦方便的時候那才能夠有正向的一個循環吸引更多人來臺中嘛 對不對我今天只是稍微把這個高鐵的到站的時刻從早上到下午跟那台鐵在新烏日站的一個區間車的一個發車的時刻我只是稍微比對了一下啦事實上我覺得這個等待的時間算長\n而且還可以再改進經濟就是銜接啦那個班車與班車之間的銜接我們是不是第一個我的建議有沒有可能呢是不是盤點像台北火車站也好或者日本東京車站也好或者是呢國外的各個國家的一個主要的一個轉運車站轉協車站也好我們去看看別人的經驗怎麼樣的一個等候的時間轉協的時間是\n何欣純議員\n先請董事長回答好了\n跟委員報告的確最近我們高鐵還有增班是高鐵7月開始要再增43班對所以在這個情況之下我們這個提供的我們的接駁的車輛我們會來跟高鐵配合來研議看怎麼樣來調整這個間距\n部長你就希望要求這個台鐵基於專業而且他必須要跨雙鐵來協調那如果更進一步的話還要跟地方政府捷運來做協調那如何讓這個轉成轉弦的這個不僅僅是空間的一個問題還有時間的拿捏問題那甚至牽涉到這個山鐵公共裡面的車站裡面的營運的問題那我相信這個是\n可以有其他的經驗來研議再加上我再提醒雖然是兩年後會發生的事情再提醒一次高鐵車站外我們鐵道局招商的全亞洲最大的shopping mall2026要開張我們要有預期心理現在就要逐步的來調整來面對因應你兩年後\n那一個全亞洲最大的娛樂城如果真的完工開始啟用了之後他未來的人潮車潮是遠遠數倍於現在的規模那我們又該如何因應所以我再一次很誠懇的提醒啦好不好逐步的來調整逐步的以其他各車站的一個經驗來做最恰當的調整好不好\n我想這個部分台鐵會請台鐵跟高鐵密切合作不要讓下了高鐵的乘客轉搭台鐵那等候過久那這樣就會失去接駁什麼樣是適當的等候時間我覺得這個是可以有大數據或是其他各國的大車站可以來做一個比較或者是來汲取他們的經驗嗎好不好\n那另外那個全國最大這個shopping mall目前有一個專案在研擬在評估周遭的交通怎麼樣能夠不至於造成這個對很大的這個交通的負擔是好不好好謝謝部長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.295 --> 00:07.106\n好謝謝李昭薇我們請部長請李部長\n\n00:16.166 --> 00:43.500\n部長好在進入今天的質詢主題之前先謝謝禮拜一的一個臺中捷運的考察那部長在事後也有發臉書也有圖卡就是支持臺中的捷運五線齊發那能夠讓臺中更進步那中央全力支持那我是希望再借重中央的經驗就是說其他城市的捷運入網尤其像臺北市已經成行那我們希望未來能夠\n\n00:45.081 --> 01:13.887\n參考其他城市的經驗那請中央也跟地方一起把我們台中捷運的五線齊發的一個財務的規劃要如何穩健然後能夠落實而且中央全力支持這個我希望將來部長可以中央的立場跟經驗來支持地方而且給地方一個充分的一個意見好不好這是一個提醒第二個我們今天談TPASS那事實上TPASS就\n\n01:15.254 --> 01:42.154\n跟剛剛我講的捷運其實有關係的T-PASS如果要真正達到它最大的一個經濟效應那它前提必須不管軟硬體的一個交通基礎運輸是必須要完善的那以台中來講現在有鐵道公路捷運只有一條但是我們也很高興在中央的支持之下我們看到這個數據是來自於交通部公路局的\n\n01:42.694 --> 01:43.675\n臺中的增加率是最高的\n\n01:58.462 --> 01:59.784\n本來就是充分的使用那所以呢雖然他的成長比較少但是還是有成長\n\n02:15.665 --> 02:32.752\n南部也相對的成長的算不錯將近150、140幾所以以TPASS這樣子的一個公共政策行政院的決定是對的他的決策是對的而且真的是對我們全台灣的\n\n02:33.652 --> 02:55.368\n北中南的公共運輸是有增加成長的趨勢尤其台中增加了2.3倍所以我必須要先謝謝行政院謝謝交通部那接著我們就要來討論那執行一年像我剛剛講都有提升但是台中提升這麼大的情況之下我們捷運還是只有一條線\n\n02:57.969 --> 03:25.808\n我期許在剛剛我講的中央能夠努力的支持臺中捷運入網成型而且能夠五線齊發能夠完成除了穩健的財務規劃中央要支持以外最重要的是未來的TPASS的一個政策的延續永續還有是不是有其他加碼的可能性來全力支持臺中的這個公共運輸還有我們的TPASS政策可以在\n\n03:26.368 --> 03:26.869\n後續我們覺得也\n\n03:45.751 --> 04:04.507\n交通部也會來跟院裡面院裡面我認為也是支持的就繼續的來持續延續這樣的政策那但是確實是後續怎麼樣能夠再更精進讓使用率更高那提升大眾運輸的這個這個搭乘我想還有很多各方面的努力要\n\n04:04.687 --> 04:18.443\n其實還有很多可以檢討的空間還可以再努力第一個使用的便利性第二個這個要便利性的軟硬體我剛剛一開頭所講的軟硬體設施都要到位要夠完善\n\n04:20.064 --> 04:33.990\n當然我們一般民眾他會使用這個公共運輸的意願就會提高意願提高再加上政府的政策決策的一個引導跟配合跟補助那當然才會\n\n04:34.850 --> 04:59.589\n改變國人的交通習慣使用習慣這個在台中尤其重要尤其台中的人口正在成長已經是全國的第二大城市如果再加上其他中部的縣市事實上是數百萬的人口的移動人口在這個台中都會需再移動所以這個要拜託部長一定要支持也要求行政院來支持\n\n05:00.089 --> 05:22.492\n那接下來我就要跟你講說那既然台中是全國的第二大城市人口又在成長那加上我們這幾年來對於爭取國內外的觀光客來台中也是我們的城市行銷一個最重要的策略之一那除了台中市自己本身要努力之外接著就是什麼交通基礎設施到底方不方便\n\n05:23.513 --> 05:43.432\n我們現在看到以這個捷運路網這個是我們未來的願景圖剛剛講的五線齊發在還沒有只有一個一條綠線的情況之下公路跟鐵路是現在接柏進市區的重要選項那尤其是鐵路尤其現在你看到從清泉崗機場要進來市區\n\n05:46.807 --> 06:09.740\n是非常不方便還不方便那我們高鐵呢從新烏日站要進市區也不是很有善之前我曾經跟杜董事長提過包括班次的增加那班次的增加呢就要什麼就要因為新烏日站叫做三鐵共購在三鐵共購的情況之下我們不僅僅是雙鐵啦我現在只是今天只是講雙鐵事實上連捷運的便利性都未來要納進去\n\n06:15.443 --> 06:42.998\n這樣子呢國內外的旅客選擇臺中這個城市要來觀光旅遊的時候他才會方便啦方便的時候那才能夠有正向的一個循環吸引更多人來臺中嘛對不對我今天只是稍微把這個高鐵的到站的時刻從早上到下午跟那台鐵在新烏日站的一個區間車的一個發車的時刻我只是稍微比對了一下啦事實上我覺得這個等待的時間算長\n\n06:44.139 --> 07:10.095\n而且還可以再改進經濟就是銜接啦那個班車與班車之間的銜接我們是不是第一個我的建議有沒有可能呢是不是盤點像台北火車站也好或者日本東京車站也好或者是呢國外的各個國家的一個主要的一個轉運車站轉協車站也好我們去看看別人的經驗怎麼樣的一個等候的時間轉協的時間是\n\n07:12.697 --> 07:12.837\n何欣純議員\n\n07:29.810 --> 07:30.150\n先請董事長回答好了\n\n07:50.931 --> 08:09.339\n跟委員報告的確最近我們高鐵還有增班是高鐵7月開始要再增43班對所以在這個情況之下我們這個提供的我們的接駁的車輛我們會來跟高鐵配合來研議看怎麼樣來調整這個間距\n\n08:11.880 --> 08:40.587\n部長你就希望要求這個台鐵基於專業而且他必須要跨雙鐵來協調那如果更進一步的話還要跟地方政府捷運來做協調那如何讓這個轉成轉弦的這個不僅僅是空間的一個問題還有時間的拿捏問題那甚至牽涉到這個山鐵公共裡面的車站裡面的營運的問題那我相信這個是\n\n08:41.707 --> 09:07.052\n可以有其他的經驗來研議再加上我再提醒雖然是兩年後會發生的事情再提醒一次高鐵車站外我們鐵道局招商的全亞洲最大的shoppingmall2026要開張我們要有預期心理現在就要逐步的來調整來面對因應你兩年後\n\n09:08.427 --> 09:31.646\n那一個全亞洲最大的娛樂城如果真的完工開始啟用了之後他未來的人潮車潮是遠遠數倍於現在的規模那我們又該如何因應所以我再一次很誠懇的提醒啦好不好逐步的來調整逐步的以其他各車站的一個經驗來做最恰當的調整好不好\n\n09:31.966 --> 09:52.596\n我想這個部分台鐵會請台鐵跟高鐵密切合作不要讓下了高鐵的乘客轉搭台鐵那等候過久那這樣就會失去接駁什麼樣是適當的等候時間我覺得這個是可以有大數據或是其他各國的大車站可以來做一個比較或者是來汲取他們的經驗嗎好不好\n\n09:52.796 --> 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