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00:00:10,709\n謝謝主席我們請部長還有那個公務局陳局長委員好\n\n2\n00:00:21,876 --> 00:00:35,425\n部長好部長這個TPASS前幾天我在院會質詢的時候部長有提到先跟交通部感謝一下就是TPASS的確現在獲得蠻好的迴響\n\n3\n00:00:38,067 --> 00:01:01,559\n那我從去111年,事實上那個時候交通部首次提出通勤月票北北機那正好那時候交通部到我們鳳山考察那我要求月票到高雄,那也都實現了那到目前為止,到112年7月就是上路的突破全國5.5億人\n\n4\n00:01:04,179 --> 00:01:27,379\n所以這個數目字其實真的是蠻不錯的那表示交通部這部分做得還不錯所以首先予以感謝跟鼓勵那當然好還要更好我們的叫做實事求是精益求精那上一次我有在院會跟部長要求說TPASS是不是可以結合好玩卡\n\n5\n00:01:28,974 --> 00:01:47,393\n那交通部也有在研擬嘛對不對我想部長可能沒有玩過好玩卡好玩卡其實我們的TPASS是針對交通好玩卡是針對觀光那公路局在規劃這個TPASS的時候\n\n6\n00:01:48,311 --> 00:02:11,385\n如果只是規劃公路局的就會變成兩線的獨立行駛事實上兩線如果結合一加一可以大於二所以我希望說公路局跟交通部可以有這樣子的思考未來才會有不一樣的反轉我舉個例子給部長參考部長這你可以參考一下你大阪那你可能不去上過\n\n7\n00:02:13,411 --> 00:02:35,724\n日本有週郵券跟樂郵券週郵券是實體卡樂郵券是QRCODE他們規劃到多細呢你可以看到他這個語言你看中間那一條字太小了他們的語言包括日語、英語、繁體中文\n\n8\n00:02:37,155 --> 00:03:01,709\n簡體中文、韓語你不同的國家要去那邊玩你要看他們的裡面的細部的內容你就可以用自己的語言進去看然後你看底下有很多的好玩的點什麼空中庭園長萬台天空美術館摩天輪等等你看還有那個美女做代言人\n\n9\n00:03:03,138 --> 00:03:31,452\n那他們規劃到這個形勢力上規劃多細跟部長報告所以你看到他7月9號黃色的那一天你只要點那一天那這些旅遊景點哪一些點在今天是休館的哪一些點開放的時間是什麼時候他只要點進去都寫得很清楚所以你如果要去大阪旅遊你只要在網上這樣子看了一下查了一下你大概就知道要怎麼玩\n\n10\n00:03:33,079 --> 00:03:58,934\n那包括你看他那邊還有免費景點你出示卡片他會送你小禮物甚至你去買什麼東西會打折也就是說你有人潮才會有錢潮嘛所以台灣好玩卡跟TPASS是不是將來有機會結合這個要出這個電子版那現在年輕人其實到全世界各國去玩他們已經很習慣用這個QRCODE電子版在玩那我們再看\n\n11\n00:04:00,214 --> 00:04:19,149\n底下第二行就是未來的TPASS其實交通部可以看看日本跟高雄的Mango卡我們高雄Mango卡其實也做得還不錯那現在應該比台北推得還要好啦但是這個就是從交通部公務局的角度它是TPASS卡\n\n12\n00:04:19,963 --> 00:04:35,382\n那從觀光署的角度今天觀光署正好沒來也拜託部長先有這樣一個格局跟眼光那也一起要求觀光署就是說這個搭配在一起他才會玩得更好玩所以呢我們再看韓國\n\n13\n00:04:37,824 --> 00:04:52,526\n韓國其實韓國的那個首爾的轉轉卡也類似他們現在在學習大阪事實上大阪這部分應該是除了歐洲之外亞洲應該是大阪做得最好的那韓國他們也在學習他這個轉轉卡\n\n14\n00:04:59,391 --> 00:05:10,224\n臺幣在大阪大概一千一在首爾大概一千五在高雄我們從一零九零現在陳其邁市長現在把它變成九九零那北北基大概有一千九\n\n15\n00:05:11,085 --> 00:05:34,634\n那類似這樣子一個卡它可以做交通工具可以到旅遊景點那全部都把它融合在一起甚至你上網就可以看到我們在看前面日本那一張你上網就可以看到你看這麼多的旅遊景點哪一天什麼日期開放什麼這做得很細所以你可以看到台灣在這部分還差很遠我們沒有做這麼細的規劃\n\n16\n00:05:37,031 --> 00:05:56,902\n那再來我們再用有幾點來思考,你剛剛看那張,你可以看到這個世界博覽會在大阪那我們要趁這個時候呢,其實世界博覽會是在宣揚國威嘛,或者是宣傳自己國家的特色那你知道在大阪明年3月到10月規劃3萬個人次了,3000萬個人次了\n\n17\n00:05:59,284 --> 00:06:15,446\n如果我們台灣館在那邊趁機人家也要吸引3000萬人到這個城市去那我們在那個城市去有沒有去宣傳以及在這個城市世界博覽會之前我們台灣這部分的配套有沒有做好\n\n18\n00:06:16,488 --> 00:06:30,576\n假設我們就是從高雄來美國卡再加上台北北北基這個其實可以配合這個好玩卡那將來是不是台灣各個不同的城市都可以有這樣子一個推動\n\n19\n00:06:31,716 --> 00:07:00,736\n今天假設我高雄人我會來買北北機的好玩卡那臺中人會去買高雄的好玩卡你今天國人要先會用外國人要來才會用所以在世界博覽會這個明年的時候是不是我們交通部跟公安署當然公路局去管國內的公路但是你如果也加上觀光的概念我們有沒有機會去吸引人家去世界博覽會順便到台灣來玩\n\n20\n00:07:02,537 --> 00:07:15,254\n那比如說我們文化總會其實今年去京都要辦台灣PLUS也是一個宣傳熱身也是希望替台灣宣傳那包括之前的那個東京奧運故宮也會去宣傳\n\n21\n00:07:16,144 --> 00:07:45,505\n那我們今天大阪有大阪辦事處也有我們觀光署的辦事處那我們有沒有做這樣子一個準備我是希望說處處都是打卡點部部都是觀光部台灣將來高科技產業國跟觀光文化國需要我們做更多這樣子一個全面性的思考才能夠把台灣這部分再做一個不同的提升所以我在這邊正式的呼籲就是說最後一行交通部\n\n22\n00:07:46,345 --> 00:08:02,840\n上一頁最後一樣交通部重點要推行TPASS2.0目前的TPASS是針對交通未來的TPASS2.0是交通跟觀光那TPASS2.0是包括像日本韓國這樣子一個\n\n23\n00:08:07,966 --> 00:08:30,318\n那目前呢,我們都是,大部分都是外包啦。那外包其實,好文卡這個外包效果不好。日本跟韓國他們都是自己公部門主導。當然就是說他可能也會主公司,或者是他會有一個法人、機構等等。但是公部門就會負責去做這一部分比較完整的思考跟效率成果的展現。\n\n24\n00:08:31,374 --> 00:08:52,940\n你外包出去好像外包出去就沒事了我是覺得這個不夠所以是不是請部長能夠仔細做這樣的一個思考然後跟公路局跟觀光署做一個結合那為了我們可以看到TPASS2.0表現的是不一樣的高度跟不一樣的細膩然後能夠吸引世界的人到我們台灣來玩這部分部長還OK嗎\n\n25\n00:08:53,760 --> 00:09:22,800\n是我想謝謝委員的提醒那確實怎麼樣讓食宿遊構型可以人家說一網打盡是一卡打盡一卡都涵蓋在內我覺得讓觀光客他覺得他只要辦一張卡來台灣旅遊的食宿遊構型都可以在裡面得到很好的這個資訊或者是很好的優惠那我覺得這個方向應該是我們要來努力好我今天是把這個給部長看了一下就是說你知道人家國家怎麼玩\n\n26\n00:09:23,340 --> 00:09:33,555\n那我們國內什麼時候可以看到我們交通部有這樣子一個豐富的內容跟展現讓國人、讓世人、世界的人可以到台灣這樣子玩\n\n27\n00:09:35,066 --> 00:09:54,776\n部長有沒有什麼概念時間上有個要求?第一個就是我們現在公共總局會在年底推T-PASS2.0那這個部分就是會比較短天期比如說5天、7天那麼讓觀光客或是讓出差的所以T-PASS有把好玩卡結合嗎?\n\n28\n00:09:55,336 --> 00:10:14,748\n但是現在還沒有考慮到要把相關的時數有夠把它結合再進來所以這個我們會再跟請公務局跟觀光署大家看怎麼樣對就是我是今天的重點就是一個跨署司的一個交通部底下由部長能夠督導跟要求\n\n29\n00:10:15,188 --> 00:10:39,188\n那請他們能夠有具體的成果的展現在明年的世界展覽會博覽會到日本的時候我們國內今年就開始做準備那明年他們來也正好可以用得上確實從公路局的角度他覺得我只要解決行的問題那怎麼樣把時數郵購也都能夠所以要步步都是觀光部啊那個我們的公路局也要有這樣子的思考\n\n30\n00:10:44,133 --> 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2.0那這個部分就是會比較短天期比如說5天、7天那麼讓觀光客或是讓出差的所以T-PASS有把好玩卡結合嗎?\n595336\t614748\t但是現在還沒有考慮到要把相關的時數有夠把它結合再進來所以這個我們會再跟請公務局跟觀光署大家看怎麼樣對就是我是今天的重點就是一個跨署司的一個交通部底下由部長能夠督導跟要求\n615188\t639188\t那請他們能夠有具體的成果的展現在明年的世界展覽會博覽會到日本的時候我們國內今年就開始做準備那明年他們來也正好可以用得上確實從公路局的角度他覺得我只要解決行的問題那怎麼樣把時數郵購也都能夠所以要步步都是觀光部啊那個我們的公路局也要有這樣子的思考\n644133\t654424\t明年的世界博覽會今年年底之前,你們要做TPASS2.0,我就希望把這個一起規劃進去,好不好?好,謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席我們請部長還有那個公務局陳局長委員好\n部長好部長這個TPASS前幾天我在院會質詢的時候部長有提到先跟交通部感謝一下就是TPASS的確現在獲得蠻好的迴響\n那我從去111年,事實上那個時候交通部首次提出通勤月票北北機那正好那時候交通部到我們鳳山考察那我要求月票到高雄,那也都實現了那到目前為止,到112年7月就是上路的突破全國5.5億人\n所以這個數目字其實真的是蠻不錯的那表示交通部這部分做得還不錯所以首先予以感謝跟鼓勵那當然好還要更好我們的叫做實事求是精益求精那上一次我有在院會跟部長要求說TPASS是不是可以結合好玩卡\n那交通部也有在研擬嘛 對不對我想部長可能沒有玩過好玩卡好玩卡其實我們的TPASS是針對交通好玩卡是針對觀光那公路局在規劃這個TPASS的時候\n如果只是規劃公路局的就會變成兩線的獨立行駛事實上兩線如果結合一加一可以大於二所以我希望說公路局跟交通部可以有這樣子的思考未來才會有不一樣的反轉我舉個例子給部長參考部長這你可以參考一下你大阪那你可能不去上過\n日本有週郵券跟樂郵券週郵券是實體卡樂郵券是QR CODE他們規劃到多細呢你可以看到他這個語言你看中間那一條字太小了他們的語言包括日語、英語、繁體中文\n簡體中文、韓語你不同的國家要去那邊玩你要看他們的裡面的細部的內容你就可以用自己的語言進去看然後你看底下有很多的好玩的點什麼空中庭園長萬台天空美術館摩天輪等等你看還有那個美女做代言人\n那他們規劃到這個形勢力上規劃多細跟部長報告所以你看到他7月9號黃色的那一天你只要點那一天那這些旅遊景點哪一些點在今天是休館的哪一些點開放的時間是什麼時候他只要點進去都寫得很清楚所以你如果要去大阪旅遊你只要在網上這樣子看了一下查了一下你大概就知道要怎麼玩\n那包括你看他那邊還有免費景點你出示卡片他會送你小禮物甚至你去買什麼東西會打折也就是說你有人潮才會有錢潮嘛所以台灣好玩卡跟TPASS是不是將來有機會結合這個要出這個電子版那現在年輕人其實到全世界各國去玩他們已經很習慣用這個QR CODE電子版在玩那我們再看\n底下第二行就是未來的TPASS其實交通部可以看看日本跟高雄的Mango卡我們高雄Mango卡其實也做得還不錯那現在應該比台北推得還要好啦但是這個就是從交通部公務局的角度它是TPASS卡\n那從觀光署的角度今天觀光署正好沒來也拜託部長先有這樣一個格局跟眼光那也一起要求觀光署就是說這個搭配在一起他才會玩得更好玩所以呢我們再看韓國\n韓國其實韓國的那個首爾的轉轉卡也類似他們現在在學習大阪事實上大阪這部分應該是除了歐洲之外亞洲應該是大阪做得最好的那韓國他們也在學習他這個轉轉卡\n臺幣在大阪大概一千一在首爾大概一千五在高雄我們從一零九零現在陳其邁市長現在把它變成九九零那北北基大概有一千九\n那類似這樣子一個卡它可以做交通工具可以到旅遊景點那全部都把它融合在一起甚至你上網就可以看到我們在看前面日本那一張你上網就可以看到你看這麼多的旅遊景點哪一天什麼日期開放什麼這做得很細所以你可以看到台灣在這部分還差很遠我們沒有做這麼細的規劃\n那再來我們再用有幾點來思考,你剛剛看那張,你可以看到這個世界博覽會在大阪那我們要趁這個時候呢,其實世界博覽會是在宣揚國威嘛,或者是宣傳自己國家的特色那你知道在大阪明年3月到10月規劃3萬個人次了,3000萬個人次了\n如果我們台灣館在那邊趁機人家也要吸引3000萬人到這個城市去那我們在那個城市去有沒有去宣傳以及在這個城市世界博覽會之前我們台灣這部分的配套有沒有做好\n假設我們就是從高雄來美國卡再加上台北北北基這個其實可以配合這個好玩卡那將來是不是台灣各個不同的城市都可以有這樣子一個推動\n今天假設我高雄人我會來買北北機的好玩卡那臺中人會去買高雄的好玩卡你今天國人要先會用外國人要來才會用所以在世界博覽會這個明年的時候是不是我們交通部跟公安署當然公路局去管國內的公路但是你如果也加上觀光的概念我們有沒有機會去吸引人家去世界博覽會順便到台灣來玩\n那比如說我們文化總會其實今年去京都要辦台灣PLUS也是一個宣傳熱身也是希望替台灣宣傳那包括之前的那個東京奧運故宮也會去宣傳\n那我們今天大阪有大阪辦事處也有我們觀光署的辦事處那我們有沒有做這樣子一個準備我是希望說處處都是打卡點部部都是觀光部台灣將來高科技產業國跟觀光文化國需要我們做更多這樣子一個全面性的思考才能夠把台灣這部分再做一個不同的提升所以我在這邊正式的呼籲就是說最後一行交通部\n上一頁 最後一樣 交通部重點要推行TPASS 2.0目前的TPASS是針對交通 未來的TPASS 2.0是交通跟觀光那TPASS 2.0是包括像日本韓國這樣子一個\n那目前呢,我們都是,大部分都是外包啦。那外包其實,好文卡這個外包效果不好。日本跟韓國他們都是自己公部門主導。當然就是說他可能也會主公司,或者是他會有一個法人、機構等等。但是公部門就會負責去做這一部分比較完整的思考跟效率成果的展現。\n你外包出去好像外包出去就沒事了我是覺得這個不夠所以是不是請部長能夠仔細做這樣的一個思考然後跟公路局跟觀光署做一個結合那為了我們可以看到TPASS 2.0表現的是不一樣的高度跟不一樣的細膩然後能夠吸引世界的人到我們台灣來玩這部分部長還OK嗎\n是 我想謝謝委員的提醒那確實怎麼樣讓食宿遊構型可以人家說一網打盡是一卡打盡一卡都涵蓋在內我覺得讓觀光客他覺得他只要辦一張卡來台灣旅遊的食宿遊構型都可以在裡面得到很好的這個資訊或者是很好的優惠那我覺得這個方向應該是我們要來努力好 我今天是把這個給部長看了一下就是說你知道人家國家怎麼玩\n那我們國內什麼時候可以看到我們交通部有這樣子一個豐富的內容跟展現讓國人、讓世人、世界的人可以到台灣這樣子玩\n部長有沒有什麼概念時間上有個要求?第一個就是我們現在公共總局會在年底推T-PASS 2.0那這個部分就是會比較短天期比如說5天、7天那麼讓觀光客或是讓出差的所以T-PASS有把好玩卡結合嗎?\n但是現在還沒有考慮到要把相關的時數有夠把它結合再進來所以這個我們會再跟請公務局跟觀光署大家看怎麼樣對就是我是今天的重點就是一個跨署司的一個交通部底下由部長能夠督導跟要求\n那請他們能夠有具體的成果的展現在明年的世界展覽會博覽會到日本的時候我們國內今年就開始做準備那明年他們來也正好可以用得上確實從公路局的角度他覺得我只要解決行的問題那怎麼樣把時數郵購也都能夠所以要步步都是觀光部啊那個我們的公路局也要有這樣子的思考\n明年的世界博覽會今年年底之前,你們要做TPASS2.0,我就希望把這個一起規劃進去,好不好?好,謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.224 --> 00:10.709\n謝謝主席我們請部長還有那個公務局陳局長委員好\n\n00:21.876 --> 00:35.425\n部長好部長這個TPASS前幾天我在院會質詢的時候部長有提到先跟交通部感謝一下就是TPASS的確現在獲得蠻好的迴響\n\n00:38.067 --> 01:01.559\n那我從去111年,事實上那個時候交通部首次提出通勤月票北北機那正好那時候交通部到我們鳳山考察那我要求月票到高雄,那也都實現了那到目前為止,到112年7月就是上路的突破全國5.5億人\n\n01:04.179 --> 01:27.379\n所以這個數目字其實真的是蠻不錯的那表示交通部這部分做得還不錯所以首先予以感謝跟鼓勵那當然好還要更好我們的叫做實事求是精益求精那上一次我有在院會跟部長要求說TPASS是不是可以結合好玩卡\n\n01:28.974 --> 01:47.393\n那交通部也有在研擬嘛對不對我想部長可能沒有玩過好玩卡好玩卡其實我們的TPASS是針對交通好玩卡是針對觀光那公路局在規劃這個TPASS的時候\n\n01:48.311 --> 02:11.385\n如果只是規劃公路局的就會變成兩線的獨立行駛事實上兩線如果結合一加一可以大於二所以我希望說公路局跟交通部可以有這樣子的思考未來才會有不一樣的反轉我舉個例子給部長參考部長這你可以參考一下你大阪那你可能不去上過\n\n02:13.411 --> 02:35.724\n日本有週郵券跟樂郵券週郵券是實體卡樂郵券是QRCODE他們規劃到多細呢你可以看到他這個語言你看中間那一條字太小了他們的語言包括日語、英語、繁體中文\n\n02:37.155 --> 03:01.709\n簡體中文、韓語你不同的國家要去那邊玩你要看他們的裡面的細部的內容你就可以用自己的語言進去看然後你看底下有很多的好玩的點什麼空中庭園長萬台天空美術館摩天輪等等你看還有那個美女做代言人\n\n03:03.138 --> 03:31.452\n那他們規劃到這個形勢力上規劃多細跟部長報告所以你看到他7月9號黃色的那一天你只要點那一天那這些旅遊景點哪一些點在今天是休館的哪一些點開放的時間是什麼時候他只要點進去都寫得很清楚所以你如果要去大阪旅遊你只要在網上這樣子看了一下查了一下你大概就知道要怎麼玩\n\n03:33.079 --> 03:58.934\n那包括你看他那邊還有免費景點你出示卡片他會送你小禮物甚至你去買什麼東西會打折也就是說你有人潮才會有錢潮嘛所以台灣好玩卡跟TPASS是不是將來有機會結合這個要出這個電子版那現在年輕人其實到全世界各國去玩他們已經很習慣用這個QRCODE電子版在玩那我們再看\n\n04:00.214 --> 04:19.149\n底下第二行就是未來的TPASS其實交通部可以看看日本跟高雄的Mango卡我們高雄Mango卡其實也做得還不錯那現在應該比台北推得還要好啦但是這個就是從交通部公務局的角度它是TPASS卡\n\n04:19.963 --> 04:35.382\n那從觀光署的角度今天觀光署正好沒來也拜託部長先有這樣一個格局跟眼光那也一起要求觀光署就是說這個搭配在一起他才會玩得更好玩所以呢我們再看韓國\n\n04:37.824 --> 04:52.526\n韓國其實韓國的那個首爾的轉轉卡也類似他們現在在學習大阪事實上大阪這部分應該是除了歐洲之外亞洲應該是大阪做得最好的那韓國他們也在學習他這個轉轉卡\n\n04:59.391 --> 05:10.224\n臺幣在大阪大概一千一在首爾大概一千五在高雄我們從一零九零現在陳其邁市長現在把它變成九九零那北北基大概有一千九\n\n05:11.085 --> 05:34.634\n那類似這樣子一個卡它可以做交通工具可以到旅遊景點那全部都把它融合在一起甚至你上網就可以看到我們在看前面日本那一張你上網就可以看到你看這麼多的旅遊景點哪一天什麼日期開放什麼這做得很細所以你可以看到台灣在這部分還差很遠我們沒有做這麼細的規劃\n\n05:37.031 --> 05:56.902\n那再來我們再用有幾點來思考,你剛剛看那張,你可以看到這個世界博覽會在大阪那我們要趁這個時候呢,其實世界博覽會是在宣揚國威嘛,或者是宣傳自己國家的特色那你知道在大阪明年3月到10月規劃3萬個人次了,3000萬個人次了\n\n05:59.284 --> 06:15.446\n如果我們台灣館在那邊趁機人家也要吸引3000萬人到這個城市去那我們在那個城市去有沒有去宣傳以及在這個城市世界博覽會之前我們台灣這部分的配套有沒有做好\n\n06:16.488 --> 06:30.576\n假設我們就是從高雄來美國卡再加上台北北北基這個其實可以配合這個好玩卡那將來是不是台灣各個不同的城市都可以有這樣子一個推動\n\n06:31.716 --> 07:00.736\n今天假設我高雄人我會來買北北機的好玩卡那臺中人會去買高雄的好玩卡你今天國人要先會用外國人要來才會用所以在世界博覽會這個明年的時候是不是我們交通部跟公安署當然公路局去管國內的公路但是你如果也加上觀光的概念我們有沒有機會去吸引人家去世界博覽會順便到台灣來玩\n\n07:02.537 --> 07:15.254\n那比如說我們文化總會其實今年去京都要辦台灣PLUS也是一個宣傳熱身也是希望替台灣宣傳那包括之前的那個東京奧運故宮也會去宣傳\n\n07:16.144 --> 07:45.505\n那我們今天大阪有大阪辦事處也有我們觀光署的辦事處那我們有沒有做這樣子一個準備我是希望說處處都是打卡點部部都是觀光部台灣將來高科技產業國跟觀光文化國需要我們做更多這樣子一個全面性的思考才能夠把台灣這部分再做一個不同的提升所以我在這邊正式的呼籲就是說最後一行交通部\n\n07:46.345 --> 08:02.840\n上一頁最後一樣交通部重點要推行TPASS2.0目前的TPASS是針對交通未來的TPASS2.0是交通跟觀光那TPASS2.0是包括像日本韓國這樣子一個\n\n08:07.966 --> 08:30.318\n那目前呢,我們都是,大部分都是外包啦。那外包其實,好文卡這個外包效果不好。日本跟韓國他們都是自己公部門主導。當然就是說他可能也會主公司,或者是他會有一個法人、機構等等。但是公部門就會負責去做這一部分比較完整的思考跟效率成果的展現。\n\n08:31.374 --> 08:52.940\n你外包出去好像外包出去就沒事了我是覺得這個不夠所以是不是請部長能夠仔細做這樣的一個思考然後跟公路局跟觀光署做一個結合那為了我們可以看到TPASS2.0表現的是不一樣的高度跟不一樣的細膩然後能夠吸引世界的人到我們台灣來玩這部分部長還OK嗎\n\n08:53.760 --> 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