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00:01:23,232\n三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例四、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例五、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例六、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例七、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例八、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條\n\n5\n00:01:35,595 --> 00:01:56,784\n今天是為什麼男男女男會不平等我想那個體育署長我們那時候看到的時候覺得很奇怪我也跟署長講說這個好像涉及到性別平等的問題所以協會也沒有在制定的時候也沒有跟體育署報告他就自己制定了我想他協會是自主在運作啦他們還講說我們政策上當然基於性別平等基於為國家出賽必須應該談到這個出賽費的問題那我想署長這個細節部分是不是我們請署長\n\n6\n00:02:02,807 --> 00:02:03,388\n條例增訂第二十四條之\n\n7\n00:02:20,811 --> 00:02:29,138\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人�\n\n8\n00:02:49,534 --> 00:02:50,815\n三條之二條之一條文草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具\n\n9\n00:03:02,267 --> 00:03:21,822\n我們會發文要求把這個委員的這個要求跟關心我想這是對的我想部這邊我們會跟體育署責成要求各單項協會以後必須採取一致的立場本席再次強調之前我也講過出賽費多少是協會或是球員他們去協調\n\n10\n00:03:23,863 --> 00:03:33,886\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n11\n00:03:48,491 --> 00:03:49,452\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n12\n00:04:00,595 --> 00:04:02,236\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之\n\n13\n00:04:21,286 --> 00:04:21,466\n二十六條之\n\n14\n00:04:47,426 --> 00:04:49,628\n三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例三十三條之一條文草案案案案案案\n\n15\n00:05:12,350 --> 00:05:38,832\n幾十萬。」等於是他直接下大錢這樣子那他裡面就講到如果說你可以其實上面都有彩券的號碼彩券的號碼現在只能查輸入只能查說這一張券到底有沒有中獎但你沒有辦法顯示金額也因此很多的詐騙集團就會故意這樣子讓民眾誤以為他們真的有內線消息這影片出來一個半月了請教有沒有看到這樣的影片\n\n16\n00:05:41,451 --> 00:06:04,557\n體育署這邊有跟我們講說有這個情況我知道體育署好像也有內部看到並且因為本席辦公室那個時候也有跟體育署這邊來聯繫說應該要注意並且本席也說也要去思考那時候也看到說要去思考說這樣會不會有個人各自的問題但後來我們發覺是說除非你自己買了彩券之後你自己要高調的上網\n\n17\n00:06:05,177 --> 00:06:07,019\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n18\n00:06:30,979 --> 00:06:40,721\n三條之二條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人�\n\n19\n00:07:00,245 --> 00:07:19,716\n三條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n20\n00:07:23,098 --> 00:07:47,707\n本席來不及提案但是本席今天也會做相關的這個修正動議那本席其實也有相關提案其實我們也知道現階段其實被大家詬病的一件事情就在於是說運採條例其實沒有納入沒有被納入運採條例的賽事他就沒有辦法用到我們這個是相關的這一個比較高的這個打假球防炸的一個法則\n\n21\n00:07:48,607 --> 00:08:17,236\n所以我們現在也在問這次的修法重點也希望是說能夠增加主管機關制定的認定的賽事就應該被納入這樣的一個罰則而不是只是運採開賣的因為運採開賣像國內之前TP、SBL有一些賽事他沒有開賣那這造成是說這可能會有這樣子刑責比較沒有辦法用到我們比較高的這個打打假球的一個刑責那我們要怎麼樣\n\n22\n00:08:18,158 --> 00:08:37,982\n我想這一部分我們很認同委員提案版本的精神所以我們在討論的時候我們會同意這個擴大把它納入就把一些我們國內常常球迷比較喜歡看的像直籃或者是這個直棒已經有了那譬如說有一些甚至是企業排球聯賽對對對像高中棒球籃賽聯賽等等黑豹旗HBL\n\n23\n00:08:43,803 --> 00:08:53,429\n三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n\n24\n00:09:08,918 --> 00:09:23,986\n市長你知道到美國啊NCAA大學籃球聯賽他其實他的一些比賽的精彩度或強度其實不亞於一般的球賽台灣也是台灣那個HBL或是UBA也都是這樣子嘛\n\n25\n00:09:24,326 --> 00:09:26,788\n條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n26\n00:09:43,403 --> 00:10:05,101\n對我想如果我們會入主條對在主條的時候法務部有代表過來我們如果現在或是你們應該就應該提出版本吧對取得公司的話因為我們現在委員你剛剛也講是說同意這樣的立法精神我想這也是我們應該要做的擴大納入那只是我們現在還沒有主條的時間嘛那教育部能不能在主條的時候能夠提出你們相當的版本\n\n27\n00:10:05,851 --> 00:10:06,352\n三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n28\n00:10:24,974 --> 00:10:25,394\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n29\n00:10:43,487 --> 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條之五條之五條\n三條之二條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人�\n三條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n本席來不及提案但是本席今天也會做相關的這個修正動議那本席其實也有相關提案其實我們也知道現階段其實被大家詬病的一件事情就在於是說運採條例其實沒有納入沒有被納入運採條例的賽事他就沒有辦法用到我們這個是相關的這一個比較高的這個打假球防炸的一個法則\n所以我們現在也在問這次的修法重點也希望是說能夠增加主管機關制定的認定的賽事就應該被納入這樣的一個罰則而不是只是運採開賣的因為運採開賣像國內之前TP、SBL有一些賽事他沒有開賣那這造成是說這可能會有這樣子刑責比較沒有辦法用到我們比較高的這個打打假球的一個刑責那我們要怎麼樣\n我想這一部分我們很認同委員提案版本的精神所以我們在討論的時候我們會同意這個擴大把它納入就把一些我們國內常常球迷比較喜歡看的像直籃或者是這個直棒已經有了那譬如說有一些甚至是企業排球聯賽對對對像高中棒球籃賽聯賽等等黑豹旗HBL\n三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n市長你知道到美國啊NCAA大學籃球聯賽他其實他的一些比賽的精彩度或強度其實不亞於一般的球賽台灣也是台灣那個HBL或是UBA也都是這樣子嘛\n條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n對我想如果我們會入主條對在主條的時候法務部有代表過來我們如果現在或是你們應該就應該提出版本吧對取得公司的話因為我們現在委員你剛剛也講是說同意這樣的立法精神我想這也是我們應該要做的擴大納入那只是我們現在還沒有主條的時間嘛那教育部能不能在主條的時候能夠提出你們相當的版本\n三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n三條之二條之一條\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.132 --> 00:10.332\n一條文修正草案案。\n\n00:18.856 --> 00:45.378\n來,市長好市長委員好來,我想首先先要請教我們之前一直在爭取這個球員他代表出場的時候能夠要有出賽費那出賽費這個事情在六月的時候你看過去到現在本席也都一直關心這個議題就認為是說當初我們在修相關條例的時候出賽費他就是應該並不是一個薪水並不是有盈餘的時候才給如果說這樣可以的話那\n\n00:46.078 --> 01:07.166\n一般其實也可以講是說我公司有賺錢我才給你薪水這是不對的但六月的時候我們看到是說籃球男籃很好可以有出賽費一個五千塊但沒想到最近又有風波就是同工不從同仇並且有男女性別平等的部分不平等的部分那為什麼會造成這樣的狀況\n\n01:08.988 --> 01:23.232\n三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例四、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例五、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例六、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例七、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例八、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條\n\n01:35.595 --> 01:56.784\n今天是為什麼男男女男會不平等我想那個體育署長我們那時候看到的時候覺得很奇怪我也跟署長講說這個好像涉及到性別平等的問題所以協會也沒有在制定的時候也沒有跟體育署報告他就自己制定了我想他協會是自主在運作啦他們還講說我們政策上當然基於性別平等基於為國家出賽必須應該談到這個出賽費的問題那我想署長這個細節部分是不是我們請署長\n\n02:02.807 --> 02:03.388\n條例增訂第二十四條之\n\n02:20.811 --> 02:29.138\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人�\n\n02:49.534 --> 02:50.815\n三條之二條之一條文草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具\n\n03:02.267 --> 03:21.822\n我們會發文要求把這個委員的這個要求跟關心我想這是對的我想部這邊我們會跟體育署責成要求各單項協會以後必須採取一致的立場本席再次強調之前我也講過出賽費多少是協會或是球員他們去協調\n\n03:23.863 --> 03:33.886\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n03:48.491 --> 03:49.452\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n04:00.595 --> 04:02.236\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之\n\n04:21.286 --> 04:21.466\n二十六條之\n\n04:47.426 --> 04:49.628\n三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例三十三條之一條文草案案案案案案\n\n05:12.350 --> 05:38.832\n幾十萬。」等於是他直接下大錢這樣子那他裡面就講到如果說你可以其實上面都有彩券的號碼彩券的號碼現在只能查輸入只能查說這一張券到底有沒有中獎但你沒有辦法顯示金額也因此很多的詐騙集團就會故意這樣子讓民眾誤以為他們真的有內線消息這影片出來一個半月了請教有沒有看到這樣的影片\n\n05:41.451 --> 06:04.557\n體育署這邊有跟我們講說有這個情況我知道體育署好像也有內部看到並且因為本席辦公室那個時候也有跟體育署這邊來聯繫說應該要注意並且本席也說也要去思考那時候也看到說要去思考說這樣會不會有個人各自的問題但後來我們發覺是說除非你自己買了彩券之後你自己要高調的上網\n\n06:05.177 --> 06:07.019\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n06:30.979 --> 06:40.721\n三條之二條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹚一、審查委員林德福等19人�\n\n07:00.245 --> 07:19.716\n三條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n07:23.098 --> 07:47.707\n本席來不及提案但是本席今天也會做相關的這個修正動議那本席其實也有相關提案其實我們也知道現階段其實被大家詬病的一件事情就在於是說運採條例其實沒有納入沒有被納入運採條例的賽事他就沒有辦法用到我們這個是相關的這一個比較高的這個打假球防炸的一個法則\n\n07:48.607 --> 08:17.236\n所以我們現在也在問這次的修法重點也希望是說能夠增加主管機關制定的認定的賽事就應該被納入這樣的一個罰則而不是只是運採開賣的因為運採開賣像國內之前TP、SBL有一些賽事他沒有開賣那這造成是說這可能會有這樣子刑責比較沒有辦法用到我們比較高的這個打打假球的一個刑責那我們要怎麼樣\n\n08:18.158 --> 08:37.982\n我想這一部分我們很認同委員提案版本的精神所以我們在討論的時候我們會同意這個擴大把它納入就把一些我們國內常常球迷比較喜歡看的像直籃或者是這個直棒已經有了那譬如說有一些甚至是企業排球聯賽對對對像高中棒球籃賽聯賽等等黑豹旗HBL\n\n08:43.803 --> 08:53.429\n三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n\n09:08.918 --> 09:23.986\n市長你知道到美國啊NCAA大學籃球聯賽他其實他的一些比賽的精彩度或強度其實不亞於一般的球賽台灣也是台灣那個HBL或是UBA也都是這樣子嘛\n\n09:24.326 --> 09:26.788\n條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n09:43.403 --> 10:05.101\n對我想如果我們會入主條對在主條的時候法務部有代表過來我們如果現在或是你們應該就應該提出版本吧對取得公司的話因為我們現在委員你剛剛也講是說同意這樣的立法精神我想這也是我們應該要做的擴大納入那只是我們現在還沒有主條的時間嘛那教育部能不能在主條的時候能夠提出你們相當的版本\n\n10:05.851 --> 10:06.352\n三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n10:24.974 --> 10:25.394\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n10:43.487 --> 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