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00:01:27,223\n因為先來的運輸要在7度C團散的運送很可能動輒50到60度C起跳另外運送可能是委外來廠商來運送想請教幾個問題第一個請教次長針對校方反映先乳配送的問題我們全台灣有2600多所國小跟輔助幼兒園需求我們如何來滿足\n\n5\n00:01:29,592 --> 00:01:52,041\n我想配送這個就是我想教育部最關心的就是因為我們喝的是鮮奶不是薄酒乳所以它的那個存放的一個條件跟環境相對會比較嚴格那如果在配送的過程裡面產生一些變數的話那事實上這鮮奶很容易壞掉這是問題對我說解決方案我們現在9月來得及嗎而且還有偏鄉的學生佔總公餐人數20%\n\n6\n00:01:58,564 --> 00:02:22,200\n這個鮮乳配送問題到底有沒有在討論啊?您剛剛自己提到冷藏設備我想是這樣子啦就是說這個政策因為主要是農業部這邊那當時他要協助諾農來解決這個就是剛才委員所講的所以是由農業部那邊經過這個行政院的善意嘛對對對所以現在目前這個政策是由這個行政院的食安辦來做跨部會的協調\n\n7\n00:02:24,241 --> 00:02:28,243\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具«運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具《運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具《運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n\n8\n00:02:53,297 --> 00:02:54,117\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之\n\n9\n00:03:07,636 --> 00:03:23,816\n我想今年下半年因為比較急迫所以目前行政院才是由農業部這邊來支付下半年度我們目前的共識就是希望九月能夠上路然後供應的次數不會少到月底\n\n10\n00:03:24,056 --> 00:03:25,016\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n11\n00:03:40,703 --> 00:03:59,612\n我想這個學童的自主性我們也非常關注我們民主社會我們希望養成學生的自主但是其實有很多人可能有一些他自己的狀況學童可能有身體因素沒有辦法喝牛奶或者是真的不太想喝牛奶的小朋友教育部有要提供其他的選項嗎\n\n12\n00:04:00,612 --> 00:04:01,393\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n13\n00:04:18,530 --> 00:04:18,810\n三條之二條之一條\n\n14\n00:04:34,773 --> 00:04:51,939\n所以我想接下來想要來談一下體育界這個熱門的話題也就是我們的巴黎奧運7月26號要開幕我們有60名選手祝福他們要這個出發前往法國請問一下次長目前代表團的這個十一住行後勤中繼站等等是不是都已經安排妥當能不能解藥的說明\n\n15\n00:04:52,619 --> 00:04:53,460\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n16\n00:05:21,633 --> 00:05:22,133\n這次所有的60位選手、教練\n\n17\n00:05:49,217 --> 00:05:49,818\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n18\n00:06:18,957 --> 00:06:45,032\n不清楚報名隊伍比賽等等的情況一問三不知提署難道就是這樣關心我們的電競選手嗎?今年四月初我剛剛提到的就是五天賽程他只有300塊美金台幣不到一萬塊的錢一天只敢吃一頓飯然後每天喝的水還要跟飯店去拜託他、給他最後報走了這個冠軍報百萬美元的獎金電競協會第一時間就發文祝賀\n\n19\n00:06:47,173 --> 00:06:47,634\n三條之四條之五條之五條之\n\n20\n00:07:04,349 --> 00:07:19,072\n三條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人�\n\n21\n00:07:27,934 --> 00:07:46,101\n報告委員第一個我先釐清這間賽事這個賽事它是商業賽事是個職業賽事所以為什麼當初我們同仁一開始在處理這件案子的時候沒有立即處理原因就在這個地方一般我們補助是在IOC底下的這個奧會體系底下的你不一定要補助啊有沒有人去參賽我們不用掌握嗎\n\n22\n00:07:46,861 --> 00:08:05,126\n這部分就是因為他們職業選手會自己去比賽這個我們的確不會去掌握各個運動賽事我們得到答覆啦你們就說透過協會報名的才是國際賽事才是代表國家的國手你們才會來關注原則上到底哪些電競賽事是你們有在關注的國際賽事啊你們要不要先列個名單出來可不可以列出來給我\n\n23\n00:08:05,646 --> 00:08:06,226\n第二十四條之一條文草案案。\n\n24\n00:08:28,821 --> 00:08:53,711\n其實我們應該要來思考像電競運動一樣也應該要能夠被補助不管你是身體的電競還是雙手的電競這個國際其實都範圍是非常廣的三個月時間過去請問體育署的補助標準目前研議的進度如何?報告委員其實我們當時就有回答就是說基本上電競選手是我們亞運的項目亞運的種類所以在我們亞奧運的選手我們基本上是一致公平的對待的所以現在就是還是沒有要補助\n\n25\n00:08:54,471 --> 00:09:07,084\n三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n\n26\n00:09:19,557 --> 00:09:47,034\n沒有關係我想我們今天所有的社會都會有公平啦電競的比賽台灣的選手不斷的拔得頭籌得冠軍然後我們現在體育署的反應是說我們就等亞奧運我們不做任何積極的這些討論其實比方說像賽車之前有羅廷偉委員在報賽車我們有國手啊對我們就是用比方說我們有媒合平台我們來幫忙一起號召社會大眾一起來做贊助這件事情我們目前是積極在做啦\n\n27\n00:09:48,095 --> 00:10:15,279\n所以就交給社會踢皮球踢給社會我這張圖我就不換了所以說有太多的運動賽事了啦所以我們目前的確是以澳亞運為主還有世界運動會沒關係我們幫你們再踢一顆球啦就是說黃牛的事情不好意思跟主席再借一點時間請教市長啦黃牛的這個問題全台灣都非常關注尤其運動賽事我先恭喜最近台灣運動賽事越來越熱門非常非常的活躍那請教市長您認為打擊黃牛最有效的手段到底是什麼\n\n28\n00:10:19,011 --> 00:10:21,832\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n\n29\n00:10:44,324 --> 00:11:04,310\n你們的答覆確實是這樣,你們說這個不是適合每一種事件,但是其實你們針對實名制的回覆呢,其實你們又說是鼓勵推動實名制啊,你們還有在研擬補助實施計畫的草案啊,又跑出一個多重宇宙來,我們已經各個部會都在那邊多重宇宙了,我們現在體育署也要開始流行了嗎?\n\n30\n00:11:04,710 --> 00:11:16,918\n二條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n31\n00:11:20,714 --> 00:11:39,390\n我們現在草案已經送到那個基金管理委員會通過之後就可以實施好我想接下來這個黃流這個會因為體育賽事越來越熱門一定會蠢蠢欲動可能會破壞我們購票的公平性甚至影響我們運動產業的發展補助計畫既然已經延誼半年而且你們剛剛也說已經快要上路了\n\n32\n00:11:39,810 --> 00:11:52,479\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n7435\t10136\t三條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n33564\t49213\t這個計劃其實有很多的背景希望這個計劃為期四年預計編列至少7億元再加上其他的配套很可能接下來出估要44億元本席在此對這個計劃表達支持因為它既可以幫助我們本土的落葉\n49853\t66841\t同時又可以為學童補充營養。但是有地方政府反映有一些配套措施及需要教育部來提供協助。以立本項政策預計是要在九月就要推行首先學校反映有冷鏈可能斷鏈造成食安的問題\n67941\t87223\t因為先來的運輸要在7度C團散的運送很可能動輒50到60度C起跳另外運送可能是委外來廠商來運送想請教幾個問題第一個請教次長針對校方反映先乳配送的問題我們全台灣有2600多所國小跟輔助幼兒園需求我們如何來滿足\n89592\t112041\t我想配送這個就是我想教育部最關心的就是因為我們喝的是鮮奶不是薄酒乳所以它的那個存放的一個條件跟環境相對會比較嚴格那如果在配送的過程裡面產生一些變數的話那事實上這鮮奶很容易壞掉這是問題對我說解決方案我們現在9月來得及嗎而且還有偏鄉的學生佔總公餐人數20%\n118564\t142200\t這個鮮乳配送問題到底有沒有在討論啊?您剛剛自己提到冷藏設備我想是這樣子啦就是說這個政策因為主要是農業部這邊那當時他要協助諾農來解決這個就是剛才委員所講的所以是由農業部那邊經過這個行政院的善意嘛對對對所以現在目前這個政策是由這個行政院的食安辦來做跨部會的協調\n144241\t148243\t三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具 «運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具《運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具《運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n173297\t174117\t三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之\n187636\t203816\t我想今年下半年因為比較急迫所以目前行政院才是由農業部這邊來支付下半年度我們目前的共識就是希望九月能夠上路然後供應的次數不會少到月底\n204056\t205016\t三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n220703\t239612\t我想這個學童的自主性我們也非常關注我們民主社會我們希望養成學生的自主但是其實有很多人可能有一些他自己的狀況學童可能有身體因素沒有辦法喝牛奶或者是真的不太想喝牛奶的小朋友教育部有要提供其他的選項嗎\n240612\t241393\t三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n258530\t258810\t三條之二條之一條\n274773\t291939\t所以我想接下來想要來談一下體育界這個熱門的話題也就是我們的巴黎奧運7月26號要開幕我們有60名選手祝福他們要這個出發前往法國請問一下次長目前代表團的這個十一住行後勤中繼站等等是不是都已經安排妥當能不能解藥的說明\n292619\t293460\t三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n321633\t322133\t這次所有的60位選手、教練\n349217\t349818\t三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n378957\t405032\t不清楚報名隊伍比賽等等的情況一問三不知提署難道就是這樣關心我們的電競選手嗎?今年四月初我剛剛提到的就是五天賽程他只有300塊美金台幣不到一萬塊的錢一天只敢吃一頓飯然後每天喝的水還要跟飯店去拜託他、給他最後報走了這個冠軍報百萬美元的獎金電競協會第一時間就發文祝賀\n407173\t407634\t三條之四條之五條之五條之\n424349\t439072\t三條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人�\n447934\t466101\t報告委員第一個我先釐清這間賽事這個賽事它是商業賽事是個職業賽事所以為什麼當初我們同仁一開始在處理這件案子的時候沒有立即處理原因就在這個地方一般我們補助是在IOC底下的這個奧會體系底下的你不一定要補助啊有沒有人去參賽我們不用掌握嗎\n466861\t485126\t這部分就是因為他們職業選手會自己去比賽這個我們的確不會去掌握各個運動賽事我們得到答覆啦你們就說透過協會報名的才是國際賽事才是代表國家的國手你們才會來關注原則上到底哪些電競賽事是你們有在關注的國際賽事啊你們要不要先列個名單出來可不可以列出來給我\n485646\t486226\t第二十四條之一條文草案案。\n508821\t533711\t其實我們應該要來思考像電競運動一樣也應該要能夠被補助不管你是身體的電競還是雙手的電競這個國際其實都範圍是非常廣的三個月時間過去請問體育署的補助標準目前研議的進度如何?報告委員其實我們當時就有回答就是說基本上電競選手是我們亞運的項目亞運的種類所以在我們亞奧運的選手我們基本上是一致公平的對待的所以現在就是還是沒有要補助\n534471\t547084\t三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n559557\t587034\t沒有關係我想我們今天所有的社會都會有公平啦電競的比賽台灣的選手不斷的拔得頭籌得冠軍然後我們現在體育署的反應是說我們就等亞奧運我們不做任何積極的這些討論其實比方說像賽車之前有羅廷偉委員在報賽車我們有國手啊對我們就是用比方說我們有媒合平台我們來幫忙一起號召社會大眾一起來做贊助這件事情我們目前是積極在做啦\n588095\t615279\t所以就交給社會踢皮球踢給社會我這張圖我就不換了所以說有太多的運動賽事了啦所以我們目前的確是以澳亞運為主還有世界運動會沒關係我們幫你們再踢一顆球啦就是說黃牛的事情不好意思跟主席再借一點時間請教市長啦黃牛的這個問題全台灣都非常關注尤其運動賽事我先恭喜最近台灣運動賽事越來越熱門非常非常的活躍那請教市長您認為打擊黃牛最有效的手段到底是什麼\n619011\t621832\t三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n644324\t664310\t你們的答覆確實是這樣,你們說這個不是適合每一種事件,但是其實你們針對實名制的回覆呢,其實你們又說是鼓勵推動實名制啊,你們還有在研擬補助實施計畫的草案啊,又跑出一個多重宇宙來,我們已經各個部會都在那邊多重宇宙了,我們現在體育署也要開始流行了嗎?\n664710\t676918\t二條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n680714\t699390\t我們現在草案已經送到那個基金管理委員會通過之後就可以實施好我想接下來這個黃流這個會因為體育賽事越來越熱門一定會蠢蠢欲動可能會破壞我們購票的公平性甚至影響我們運動產業的發展補助計畫既然已經延誼半年而且你們剛剛也說已經快要上路了\n699810\t712479\t三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n","txt":"三條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n這個計劃其實有很多的背景希望這個計劃為期四年預計編列至少7億元再加上其他的配套很可能接下來出估要44億元本席在此對這個計劃表達支持因為它既可以幫助我們本土的落葉\n同時又可以為學童補充營養。但是有地方政府反映有一些配套措施及需要教育部來提供協助。以立本項政策預計是要在九月就要推行首先學校反映有冷鏈可能斷鏈造成食安的問題\n因為先來的運輸要在7度C團散的運送很可能動輒50到60度C起跳另外運送可能是委外來廠商來運送想請教幾個問題第一個請教次長針對校方反映先乳配送的問題我們全台灣有2600多所國小跟輔助幼兒園需求我們如何來滿足\n我想配送這個就是我想教育部最關心的就是因為我們喝的是鮮奶不是薄酒乳所以它的那個存放的一個條件跟環境相對會比較嚴格那如果在配送的過程裡面產生一些變數的話那事實上這鮮奶很容易壞掉這是問題對我說解決方案我們現在9月來得及嗎而且還有偏鄉的學生佔總公餐人數20%\n這個鮮乳配送問題到底有沒有在討論啊?您剛剛自己提到冷藏設備我想是這樣子啦就是說這個政策因為主要是農業部這邊那當時他要協助諾農來解決這個就是剛才委員所講的所以是由農業部那邊經過這個行政院的善意嘛對對對所以現在目前這個政策是由這個行政院的食安辦來做跨部會的協調\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具 «運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具《運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具《運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之\n我想今年下半年因為比較急迫所以目前行政院才是由農業部這邊來支付下半年度我們目前的共識就是希望九月能夠上路然後供應的次數不會少到月底\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n我想這個學童的自主性我們也非常關注我們民主社會我們希望養成學生的自主但是其實有很多人可能有一些他自己的狀況學童可能有身體因素沒有辦法喝牛奶或者是真的不太想喝牛奶的小朋友教育部有要提供其他的選項嗎\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n三條之二條之一條\n所以我想接下來想要來談一下體育界這個熱門的話題也就是我們的巴黎奧運7月26號要開幕我們有60名選手祝福他們要這個出發前往法國請問一下次長目前代表團的這個十一住行後勤中繼站等等是不是都已經安排妥當能不能解藥的說明\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n這次所有的60位選手、教練\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n不清楚報名隊伍比賽等等的情況一問三不知提署難道就是這樣關心我們的電競選手嗎?今年四月初我剛剛提到的就是五天賽程他只有300塊美金台幣不到一萬塊的錢一天只敢吃一頓飯然後每天喝的水還要跟飯店去拜託他、給他最後報走了這個冠軍報百萬美元的獎金電競協會第一時間就發文祝賀\n三條之四條之五條之五條之\n三條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人�\n報告委員第一個我先釐清這間賽事這個賽事它是商業賽事是個職業賽事所以為什麼當初我們同仁一開始在處理這件案子的時候沒有立即處理原因就在這個地方一般我們補助是在IOC底下的這個奧會體系底下的你不一定要補助啊有沒有人去參賽我們不用掌握嗎\n這部分就是因為他們職業選手會自己去比賽這個我們的確不會去掌握各個運動賽事我們得到答覆啦你們就說透過協會報名的才是國際賽事才是代表國家的國手你們才會來關注原則上到底哪些電競賽事是你們有在關注的國際賽事啊你們要不要先列個名單出來可不可以列出來給我\n第二十四條之一條文草案案。\n其實我們應該要來思考像電競運動一樣也應該要能夠被補助不管你是身體的電競還是雙手的電競這個國際其實都範圍是非常廣的三個月時間過去請問體育署的補助標準目前研議的進度如何?報告委員其實我們當時就有回答就是說基本上電競選手是我們亞運的項目亞運的種類所以在我們亞奧運的選手我們基本上是一致公平的對待的所以現在就是還是沒有要補助\n三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n沒有關係我想我們今天所有的社會都會有公平啦電競的比賽台灣的選手不斷的拔得頭籌得冠軍然後我們現在體育署的反應是說我們就等亞奧運我們不做任何積極的這些討論其實比方說像賽車之前有羅廷偉委員在報賽車我們有國手啊對我們就是用比方說我們有媒合平台我們來幫忙一起號召社會大眾一起來做贊助這件事情我們目前是積極在做啦\n所以就交給社會踢皮球踢給社會我這張圖我就不換了所以說有太多的運動賽事了啦所以我們目前的確是以澳亞運為主還有世界運動會沒關係我們幫你們再踢一顆球啦就是說黃牛的事情不好意思跟主席再借一點時間請教市長啦黃牛的這個問題全台灣都非常關注尤其運動賽事我先恭喜最近台灣運動賽事越來越熱門非常非常的活躍那請教市長您認為打擊黃牛最有效的手段到底是什麼\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n你們的答覆確實是這樣,你們說這個不是適合每一種事件,但是其實你們針對實名制的回覆呢,其實你們又說是鼓勵推動實名制啊,你們還有在研擬補助實施計畫的草案啊,又跑出一個多重宇宙來,我們已經各個部會都在那邊多重宇宙了,我們現在體育署也要開始流行了嗎?\n二條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n我們現在草案已經送到那個基金管理委員會通過之後就可以實施好我想接下來這個黃流這個會因為體育賽事越來越熱門一定會蠢蠢欲動可能會破壞我們購票的公平性甚至影響我們運動產業的發展補助計畫既然已經延誼半年而且你們剛剛也說已經快要上路了\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.435 --> 00:10.136\n三條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n00:33.564 --> 00:49.213\n這個計劃其實有很多的背景希望這個計劃為期四年預計編列至少7億元再加上其他的配套很可能接下來出估要44億元本席在此對這個計劃表達支持因為它既可以幫助我們本土的落葉\n\n00:49.853 --> 01:06.841\n同時又可以為學童補充營養。但是有地方政府反映有一些配套措施及需要教育部來提供協助。以立本項政策預計是要在九月就要推行首先學校反映有冷鏈可能斷鏈造成食安的問題\n\n01:07.941 --> 01:27.223\n因為先來的運輸要在7度C團散的運送很可能動輒50到60度C起跳另外運送可能是委外來廠商來運送想請教幾個問題第一個請教次長針對校方反映先乳配送的問題我們全台灣有2600多所國小跟輔助幼兒園需求我們如何來滿足\n\n01:29.592 --> 01:52.041\n我想配送這個就是我想教育部最關心的就是因為我們喝的是鮮奶不是薄酒乳所以它的那個存放的一個條件跟環境相對會比較嚴格那如果在配送的過程裡面產生一些變數的話那事實上這鮮奶很容易壞掉這是問題對我說解決方案我們現在9月來得及嗎而且還有偏鄉的學生佔總公餐人數20%\n\n01:58.564 --> 02:22.200\n這個鮮乳配送問題到底有沒有在討論啊?您剛剛自己提到冷藏設備我想是這樣子啦就是說這個政策因為主要是農業部這邊那當時他要協助諾農來解決這個就是剛才委員所講的所以是由農業部那邊經過這個行政院的善意嘛對對對所以現在目前這個政策是由這個行政院的食安辦來做跨部會的協調\n\n02:24.241 --> 02:28.243\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具«運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具《運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具《運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n\n02:53.297 --> 02:54.117\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之\n\n03:07.636 --> 03:23.816\n我想今年下半年因為比較急迫所以目前行政院才是由農業部這邊來支付下半年度我們目前的共識就是希望九月能夠上路然後供應的次數不會少到月底\n\n03:24.056 --> 03:25.016\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n03:40.703 --> 03:59.612\n我想這個學童的自主性我們也非常關注我們民主社會我們希望養成學生的自主但是其實有很多人可能有一些他自己的狀況學童可能有身體因素沒有辦法喝牛奶或者是真的不太想喝牛奶的小朋友教育部有要提供其他的選項嗎\n\n04:00.612 --> 04:01.393\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n04:18.530 --> 04:18.810\n三條之二條之一條\n\n04:34.773 --> 04:51.939\n所以我想接下來想要來談一下體育界這個熱門的話題也就是我們的巴黎奧運7月26號要開幕我們有60名選手祝福他們要這個出發前往法國請問一下次長目前代表團的這個十一住行後勤中繼站等等是不是都已經安排妥當能不能解藥的說明\n\n04:52.619 --> 04:53.460\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n05:21.633 --> 05:22.133\n這次所有的60位選手、教練\n\n05:49.217 --> 05:49.818\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具\n\n06:18.957 --> 06:45.032\n不清楚報名隊伍比賽等等的情況一問三不知提署難道就是這樣關心我們的電競選手嗎?今年四月初我剛剛提到的就是五天賽程他只有300塊美金台幣不到一萬塊的錢一天只敢吃一頓飯然後每天喝的水還要跟飯店去拜託他、給他最後報走了這個冠軍報百萬美元的獎金電競協會第一時間就發文祝賀\n\n06:47.173 --> 06:47.634\n三條之四條之五條之五條之\n\n07:04.349 --> 07:19.072\n三條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人�\n\n07:27.934 --> 07:46.101\n報告委員第一個我先釐清這間賽事這個賽事它是商業賽事是個職業賽事所以為什麼當初我們同仁一開始在處理這件案子的時候沒有立即處理原因就在這個地方一般我們補助是在IOC底下的這個奧會體系底下的你不一定要補助啊有沒有人去參賽我們不用掌握嗎\n\n07:46.861 --> 08:05.126\n這部分就是因為他們職業選手會自己去比賽這個我們的確不會去掌握各個運動賽事我們得到答覆啦你們就說透過協會報名的才是國際賽事才是代表國家的國手你們才會來關注原則上到底哪些電競賽事是你們有在關注的國際賽事啊你們要不要先列個名單出來可不可以列出來給我\n\n08:05.646 --> 08:06.226\n第二十四條之一條文草案案。\n\n08:28.821 --> 08:53.711\n其實我們應該要來思考像電競運動一樣也應該要能夠被補助不管你是身體的電競還是雙手的電競這個國際其實都範圍是非常廣的三個月時間過去請問體育署的補助標準目前研議的進度如何?報告委員其實我們當時就有回答就是說基本上電競選手是我們亞運的項目亞運的種類所以在我們亞奧運的選手我們基本上是一致公平的對待的所以現在就是還是沒有要補助\n\n08:54.471 --> 09:07.084\n三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n\n09:19.557 --> 09:47.034\n沒有關係我想我們今天所有的社會都會有公平啦電競的比賽台灣的選手不斷的拔得頭籌得冠軍然後我們現在體育署的反應是說我們就等亞奧運我們不做任何積極的這些討論其實比方說像賽車之前有羅廷偉委員在報賽車我們有國手啊對我們就是用比方說我們有媒合平台我們來幫忙一起號召社會大眾一起來做贊助這件事情我們目前是積極在做啦\n\n09:48.095 --> 10:15.279\n所以就交給社會踢皮球踢給社會我這張圖我就不換了所以說有太多的運動賽事了啦所以我們目前的確是以澳亞運為主還有世界運動會沒關係我們幫你們再踢一顆球啦就是說黃牛的事情不好意思跟主席再借一點時間請教市長啦黃牛的這個問題全台灣都非常關注尤其運動賽事我先恭喜最近台灣運動賽事越來越熱門非常非常的活躍那請教市長您認為打擊黃牛最有效的手段到底是什麼\n\n10:19.011 --> 10:21.832\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n\n10:44.324 --> 11:04.310\n你們的答覆確實是這樣,你們說這個不是適合每一種事件,但是其實你們針對實名制的回覆呢,其實你們又說是鼓勵推動實名制啊,你們還有在研擬補助實施計畫的草案啊,又跑出一個多重宇宙來,我們已經各個部會都在那邊多重宇宙了,我們現在體育署也要開始流行了嗎?\n\n11:04.710 --> 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