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\"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:00,029 --> 00:00:01,129\n第二十六條之一條文草案案案。關於瓊斯被你攬出賽費這個爭議,目前提出你們的態度是什麼?\n\n2\n00:00:23,700 --> 00:00:24,361\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n3\n00:00:38,828 --> 00:00:52,875\n對,這就是我們今天要討論的。昨天蘭喜還說要用激勵獎金的方式發給每位女籃球員兩千元,等於說她在補足這個茶餌一樣是五千塊。但是署長,如果這個這樣子的說法跟相較於說一樣出賽費這樣是五千塊,這個很難嗎?\n\n4\n00:00:57,777 --> 00:01:05,463\n三條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「\n\n5\n00:01:27,719 --> 00:01:28,520\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之\n\n6\n00:01:56,916 --> 00:02:13,734\n體育署我這邊我真的要提醒你們一直以來其實在我們體育界就存在這種男女不平等的這樣子待遇其實一直都有那從這一次這個事件其實體育署你們也只是剛開始也只是喊話那如果說你們沒有實質的作為你們是袖手旁觀的話那這樣的情況會一直的發生\n\n7\n00:02:15,236 --> 00:02:43,641\n報告委員,其實我在私底下勢力真的很多啦,說實在,而且當然我還是要先說明,前面四次球員公會跟藍鞋在談的時候,的確前面四次先著重在男子隊這部分,那還沒談到女子隊,那雙方就談判就先暫停了,所以他們的確藍鞋這塊有一個既有的一個這種不正確的觀念,所以有這樣的發生,但是我們在第一時間就已經跟他要求一定要改正這件事情。\n\n8\n00:02:44,315 --> 00:02:56,506\n三條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條\n\n9\n00:03:10,999 --> 00:03:38,623\n有怎樣的方式可以去改善它?你們用這樣的方式可以去提醒它應該要改善?其實八五委員除了八五委員之外第二個其實就是教育啦因為這是根本的觀念上的一個改善這是長期以來我們的確一直要去跟協會講在男女生的不管是他出場費也好或者是他整個比賽的準備的待遇甚至他的選訓選拔還有比賽的項目其實我們在世界上的目前的潮流就是希望男女生這部分是能夠一致的\n\n10\n00:03:38,763 --> 00:03:39,584\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n11\n00:03:53,814 --> 00:03:54,655\n三條之一條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘\n\n12\n00:04:24,234 --> 00:04:25,475\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n13\n00:04:48,543 --> 00:04:50,706\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n14\n00:05:06,703 --> 00:05:31,248\n選訓正倫的國家隊的部分甚至基層的培訓前優我們一直都是很支持但是我想可能還沒有找到對的方法那我們這邊我們持續再來鼓勵他們其實我這邊真的覺得說經過這麼多次的事件我真的看不到說體育署針對單項協會的改革從足協拖欠薪資到這次這個出賽費的這個事情其實體育署如果你們一直只是站在單項協會的角度來處理\n\n15\n00:05:33,388 --> 00:05:46,194\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n16\n00:05:50,376 --> 00:06:14,245\n我們一直期待可以將體育署升為運動部所以我們希望有更多的資源來照顧這些運動員我們也希望把台灣打造為對運動員友善的一個環境加上其實巴黎奧運在即全國的民眾的目光都會專注的就是投注在我們體育署如何對待我們的國手以及他們的福利所以這邊我希望體育署你們要加把勁接下來我要請教我們署長\n\n17\n00:06:16,246 --> 00:06:44,376\n一百一十二年度的動資券呢從去年的六月一號開始領取在今年的六月三十號抵用截止那根據體育署的統計呢可以領券的人數大概是一百五十五萬人但是領券人數只有八十八萬人差不多只有五成多一點那實際使用的人數呢是五十五萬人使用率只有百分之三十五點五那次長跟署長您覺得對一百一十二年度的動資券的這個執行成效你們滿意嗎\n\n18\n00:06:45,512 --> 00:06:45,872\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之\n\n19\n00:07:10,735 --> 00:07:12,897\n三條文修正草案案案。\n\n20\n00:07:40,638 --> 00:07:42,278\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條文草案案。」案。\n\n21\n00:08:01,343 --> 00:08:15,352\n但是我們的用意並不在於說讓他們去購買是讓他們去參與所以這部分跟文化券有一個很大的差異在這個地方所以這部分我們還是要去做思考啦這個也請你們再研議看有什麼樣的方式去補充的那接下來我要請教我們次長教育部在112學年度下學期有在42所的高中試辦的身心調試假那一個學期之後呢決定在8月1號來上路那我想請教次長在試辦階段有沒有遇到什麼問題\n\n22\n00:08:30,526 --> 00:08:30,766\n三條之二條之一條\n\n23\n00:08:46,343 --> 00:08:47,044\n條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n24\n00:09:02,737 --> 00:09:11,300\n現在就是高中的部分我們先上路啦上路大概一學期之後或一年之後我們會看一學期或一個學年這樣子那有青年團體建議在學生請身心調適假之後呢學校可以進行相關的配套來落實學生輔導事務的推動例如有大學呢他在學生請了身心調適假之後呢他會透過系統來寄送關懷信件那信裡面會提供諮詢專線及書鴨的方式\n\n25\n00:09:30,126 --> 00:09:31,587\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n26\n00:09:54,542 --> 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案。\n460638\t462278\t二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條文草案案。」案。\n481343\t495352\t但是我們的用意並不在於說讓他們去購買是讓他們去參與所以這部分跟文化券有一個很大的差異在這個地方所以這部分我們還是要去做思考啦這個也請你們再研議看有什麼樣的方式去補充的那接下來我要請教我們次長教育部在112學年度下學期有在42所的高中試辦的身心調試假那一個學期之後呢決定在8月1號來上路那我想請教次長在試辦階段有沒有遇到什麼問題\n510526\t510766\t三條之二條之一條\n526343\t527044\t條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n542737\t551300\t現在就是高中的部分我們先上路啦上路大概一學期之後或一年之後我們會看一學期或一個學年這樣子那有青年團體建議在學生請身心調適假之後呢學校可以進行相關的配套來落實學生輔導事務的推動例如有大學呢他在學生請了身心調適假之後呢他會透過系統來寄送關懷信件那信裡面會提供諮詢專線及書鴨的方式\n570126\t571587\t三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n594542\t599065\t三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n","txt":"第二十六條之一條文草案案案。關於瓊斯被你攬出賽費這個爭議,目前提出你們的態度是什麼?\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n對,這就是我們今天要討論的。昨天蘭喜還說要用激勵獎金的方式發給每位女籃球員兩千元,等於說她在補足這個茶餌一樣是五千塊。但是署長,如果這個這樣子的說法跟相較於說一樣出賽費這樣是五千塊,這個很難嗎?\n三條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之\n體育署我這邊我真的要提醒你們一直以來其實在我們體育界就存在這種男女不平等的這樣子待遇其實一直都有那從這一次這個事件其實體育署你們也只是剛開始也只是喊話那如果說你們沒有實質的作為你們是袖手旁觀的話那這樣的情況會一直的發生\n報告委員,其實我在私底下勢力真的很多啦,說實在,而且當然我還是要先說明,前面四次球員公會跟藍鞋在談的時候,的確前面四次先著重在男子隊這部分,那還沒談到女子隊,那雙方就談判就先暫停了,所以他們的確藍鞋這塊有一個既有的一個這種不正確的觀念,所以有這樣的發生,但是我們在第一時間就已經跟他要求一定要改正這件事情。\n三條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條\n有怎樣的方式可以去改善它?你們用這樣的方式可以去提醒它應該要改善?其實八五委員除了八五委員之外第二個其實就是教育啦因為這是根本的觀念上的一個改善這是長期以來我們的確一直要去跟協會講在男女生的不管是他出場費也好或者是他整個比賽的準備的待遇甚至他的選訓選拔還有比賽的項目其實我們在世界上的目前的潮流就是希望男女生這部分是能夠一致的\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n三條之一條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n選訓正倫的國家隊的部分甚至基層的培訓前優我們一直都是很支持但是我想可能還沒有找到對的方法那我們這邊我們持續再來鼓勵他們其實我這邊真的覺得說經過這麼多次的事件我真的看不到說體育署針對單項協會的改革從足協拖欠薪資到這次這個出賽費的這個事情其實體育署如果你們一直只是站在單項協會的角度來處理\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n我們一直期待可以將體育署升為運動部所以我們希望有更多的資源來照顧這些運動員我們也希望把台灣打造為對運動員友善的一個環境加上其實巴黎奧運在即全國的民眾的目光都會專注的就是投注在我們體育署如何對待我們的國手以及他們的福利所以這邊我希望體育署你們要加把勁接下來我要請教我們署長\n一百一十二年度的動資券呢從去年的六月一號開始領取在今年的六月三十號抵用截止那根據體育署的統計呢可以領券的人數大概是一百五十五萬人但是領券人數只有八十八萬人差不多只有五成多一點那實際使用的人數呢是五十五萬人使用率只有百分之三十五點五那次長跟署長您覺得對一百一十二年度的動資券的這個執行成效你們滿意嗎\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之\n三條文修正草案案 案。\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條文草案案。」案。\n但是我們的用意並不在於說讓他們去購買是讓他們去參與所以這部分跟文化券有一個很大的差異在這個地方所以這部分我們還是要去做思考啦這個也請你們再研議看有什麼樣的方式去補充的那接下來我要請教我們次長教育部在112學年度下學期有在42所的高中試辦的身心調試假那一個學期之後呢決定在8月1號來上路那我想請教次長在試辦階段有沒有遇到什麼問題\n三條之二條之一條\n條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n現在就是高中的部分我們先上路啦上路大概一學期之後或一年之後我們會看一學期或一個學年這樣子那有青年團體建議在學生請身心調適假之後呢學校可以進行相關的配套來落實學生輔導事務的推動例如有大學呢他在學生請了身心調適假之後呢他會透過系統來寄送關懷信件那信裡面會提供諮詢專線及書鴨的方式\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.029 --> 00:01.129\n第二十六條之一條文草案案案。關於瓊斯被你攬出賽費這個爭議,目前提出你們的態度是什麼?\n\n00:23.700 --> 00:24.361\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n00:38.828 --> 00:52.875\n對,這就是我們今天要討論的。昨天蘭喜還說要用激勵獎金的方式發給每位女籃球員兩千元,等於說她在補足這個茶餌一樣是五千塊。但是署長,如果這個這樣子的說法跟相較於說一樣出賽費這樣是五千塊,這個很難嗎?\n\n00:57.777 --> 01:05.463\n三條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「\n\n01:27.719 --> 01:28.520\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之\n\n01:56.916 --> 02:13.734\n體育署我這邊我真的要提醒你們一直以來其實在我們體育界就存在這種男女不平等的這樣子待遇其實一直都有那從這一次這個事件其實體育署你們也只是剛開始也只是喊話那如果說你們沒有實質的作為你們是袖手旁觀的話那這樣的情況會一直的發生\n\n02:15.236 --> 02:43.641\n報告委員,其實我在私底下勢力真的很多啦,說實在,而且當然我還是要先說明,前面四次球員公會跟藍鞋在談的時候,的確前面四次先著重在男子隊這部分,那還沒談到女子隊,那雙方就談判就先暫停了,所以他們的確藍鞋這塊有一個既有的一個這種不正確的觀念,所以有這樣的發生,但是我們在第一時間就已經跟他要求一定要改正這件事情。\n\n02:44.315 --> 02:56.506\n三條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條\n\n03:10.999 --> 03:38.623\n有怎樣的方式可以去改善它?你們用這樣的方式可以去提醒它應該要改善?其實八五委員除了八五委員之外第二個其實就是教育啦因為這是根本的觀念上的一個改善這是長期以來我們的確一直要去跟協會講在男女生的不管是他出場費也好或者是他整個比賽的準備的待遇甚至他的選訓選拔還有比賽的項目其實我們在世界上的目前的潮流就是希望男女生這部分是能夠一致的\n\n03:38.763 --> 03:39.584\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n03:53.814 --> 03:54.655\n三條之一條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘\n\n04:24.234 --> 04:25.475\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n04:48.543 --> 04:50.706\n二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具\n\n05:06.703 --> 05:31.248\n選訓正倫的國家隊的部分甚至基層的培訓前優我們一直都是很支持但是我想可能還沒有找到對的方法那我們這邊我們持續再來鼓勵他們其實我這邊真的覺得說經過這麼多次的事件我真的看不到說體育署針對單項協會的改革從足協拖欠薪資到這次這個出賽費的這個事情其實體育署如果你們一直只是站在單項協會的角度來處理\n\n05:33.388 --> 05:46.194\n三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條\n\n05:50.376 --> 06:14.245\n我們一直期待可以將體育署升為運動部所以我們希望有更多的資源來照顧這些運動員我們也希望把台灣打造為對運動員友善的一個環境加上其實巴黎奧運在即全國的民眾的目光都會專注的就是投注在我們體育署如何對待我們的國手以及他們的福利所以這邊我希望體育署你們要加把勁接下來我要請教我們署長\n\n06:16.246 --> 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