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00:02:11,549\n那我自己的辦公室也我們一直在參與跟內政部的政策的討論這部分坦白說我覺得要給內政部蠻大的肯定那今年的6月28我在我自己的社群平台上面宣傳這個政策即將要公佈實施其實獲得非常非常多年輕網友的好評不過也陸續收到了很多網友跟相關租屋族他們也很多疑問或者是他們有很多的提問\n\n7\n00:02:12,847 --> 00:02:40,200\n那我現在看到在內政部的租賃條例的專區裡面有公布一份QA這份QA在租賃專區的QA裡面我有看到那看起來有想要回答一些問題可是說實話我看到這份QA我認為有很大改善的空間舉例來說這個我們現在在社群的平台上面收到最多的問題現在我以上列的這些我們目前看到內政部都還沒有很清楚的解釋比方說舉例\n\n8\n00:02:41,340 --> 00:02:56,268\n租賃家的心智是否適用於營業場所﹐比方說百貨公司﹐百貨商場﹐包括夜市﹐小攤商也告訴我說﹐他們往往多架一顆燈﹐就要被夜市的管委會多收費30塊﹐像這算不算﹐電價被超收﹐像這種問題﹐\n\n9\n00:02:57,409 --> 00:03:11,674\n二、租賃住宅市場發展及管理條例第三十四條、第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之\n\n10\n00:03:13,675 --> 00:03:30,192\n在比方說更多人會問那租客要如何知道有沒有被房東超收電費那這部分其實我們已經跟台電商量好規劃好的一個好的大家去查詢平均電價的機制可是大家也是不知道所以我們需要給大家一些操作型的指引讓大家去做\n\n11\n00:03:30,692 --> 00:03:57,572\n再來,房東不能透過電費來賺差價,那是不是會來趁機漲房租?那該怎麼辦?這剛剛前面有一個委員,我記得張志文委員有問到,那執行面上面到底房東要怎麼配合台電才能夠減少麻煩?這些問題我覺得都是重要的問題,但是現在在QA上面我們都沒有看到這些問題。所以部長、次長我要說,其實我們在看到現在的這個租賃市場上面有很多不同型態的房東跟租客,包括\n\n12\n00:03:58,473 --> 00:04:00,534\n租賃住宅市場發展及管理條例第三十四條、第三十八條之二條文修正草案。\n\n13\n00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:42,481\n在合法合規上面其實現在是需要內政部更大力的去做宣傳的要給完整的建議所以我要要求這個包括市長跟司長我覺得我們要定期來檢討這份QA那把大家遇到直接常見的問題都應該列上去其實有一個明確的答案第二個我覺得不能夠只有放在你們的網站上啊年輕人看不到啊你們要不要去利用更多的社群平台去甚至我要說\n\n14\n00:04:43,683 --> 00:05:01,993\n你們應該我自己都覺得我們有很多的租屋網站這些租屋網站是不是直接在租屋網站上面就要標明把這訊息不得超收電費那電費該怎麼收清清楚楚的列在上面讓房東跟房客直接就可以知道不一定一定非得透過房客的檢舉才能夠去修改過去錯誤的行為\n\n15\n00:05:03,214 --> 00:05:03,334\n市長,有沒有問題?\n\n16\n00:05:19,275 --> 00:05:37,456\n沒問題,我們會照委員的建議做定期的對QA的修正。那也感謝委員提供一些相關的QA給我們。但我覺得重點是要花力氣、花資源主動宣傳。這是一個好的政策讓大家更多人知道,它可以廣受好評,可是只怕我們的配套不足、宣傳不足。\n\n17\n00:05:38,337 --> 00:06:02,737\n二、租賃住宅市場發展及管理條例第三十四條、第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之\n\n18\n00:06:04,062 --> 00:06:16,463\n其實現在很多房東來跟我們反映他們過去確實可能因為過去的習慣或者是過去前人跟他們講的做法不是合法的做法可是他們現在可能也想要改用合法的做法但是他們\n\n19\n00:06:17,489 --> 00:06:41,031\n有些來反應,他想更知道怎麼這些操作上面的細節。第二個事情是,其實確實坦白說,很多委員講到租屋黑市的存在,是現在很多租客跟房東之間權力不平等的問題。這事情當然需要面對,可是我覺得在面對的同時幾件事情的做法,我覺得至少可以優先先做。我們政府不是不了解這個問題,但是其實已經推出很多棍子跟胡蘿蔔,\n\n20\n00:06:41,972 --> 00:07:04,794\n但是包括房東或者是公益出租人其實我覺得我們現在也開始有所謂專案的查核在這個學校周邊想要查八千我們這都有我覺得我們要讓房東很清楚知道第一個如果你要做一個合法的房東其實你可以享有政府多少的優惠如果你要做一個非法的房東或不合規的房東你可能要付出什麼樣的代價其實我覺得這部分\n\n21\n00:07:05,799 --> 00:07:27,179\n要擴大的宣傳讓大家知道我們把這個你可以拿到的優惠跟你會受到的懲罰之間這個要讓大家清清楚楚我覺得在大家會慢慢的做行為上面的校正因為有很多的房東他也跟我們說我們並沒有就想要當一個非法的房東可是過去長年以來的習慣是這樣我現在也想改可是我要怎麼改我需要一些政府的幫忙\n\n22\n00:07:27,799 --> 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條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之\n其實現在很多房東來跟我們反映他們過去確實可能因為過去的習慣或者是過去前人跟他們講的做法不是合法的做法可是他們現在可能也想要改用合法的做法但是他們\n有些來反應,他想更知道怎麼這些操作上面的細節。第二個事情是,其實確實坦白說,很多委員講到租屋黑市的存在,是現在很多租客跟房東之間權力不平等的問題。這事情當然需要面對,可是我覺得在面對的同時幾件事情的做法,我覺得至少可以優先先做。我們政府不是不了解這個問題,但是其實已經推出很多棍子跟胡蘿蔔,\n但是包括房東或者是公益出租人其實我覺得我們現在也開始有所謂專案的查核在這個學校周邊想要查八千我們這都有我覺得我們要讓房東很清楚知道第一個如果你要做一個合法的房東其實你可以享有政府多少的優惠如果你要做一個非法的房東或不合規的房東你可能要付出什麼樣的代價其實我覺得這部分\n要擴大的宣傳讓大家知道我們把這個你可以拿到的優惠跟你會受到的懲罰之間這個要讓大家清清楚楚我覺得在大家會慢慢的做行為上面的校正因為有很多的房東他也跟我們說我們並沒有就想要當一個非法的房東可是過去長年以來的習慣是這樣我現在也想改可是我要怎麼改我需要一些政府的幫忙\n這部分我還是要跟內政部說我們還是現在開始說我覺得我們其實陸陸續續推出了蠻多的政策但真的有很多房東跟房客還是不了解這部分宣傳是一件事情但我們現在接下來可能想討論更多規範性的做法我也贊成要有規範性的做法但至少宣傳能夠是起的應該是第一步而且這要花資源宣傳不要把頭埋在沙裡面我覺得這是一個部分市長應該沒問題吧\n沒有問題,我們會照委員的建議,我們加長來處理。好,謝謝。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.431 --> 00:22.699\n主席好請董事長也請董事長董事長我其實在我今天的質詢開始之前我其實想給你一個建議就是因為我剛剛聽到你說因為申請租屋補貼而\n\n00:23.595 --> 00:23.935\n二、審查委員\n\n00:39.591 --> 01:04.137\n租賃住宅市場發展及管理條例第三十四條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之\n\n01:08.206 --> 01:15.105\n跟次長來表達其實今天有很多委員我們都很關注租屋族的權益其實我自己長期也是租屋族\n\n01:16.004 --> 01:36.855\n那都在租房子所以部長我要先肯定其實現在內政部在6月底的時候通過行政院的小保會那會在7月15號上路的租電價的這個新制上面其實這是一個非常大的進展其實從去年的11月開始我就透過幾次的質詢包括跟經濟部跟內政部來討論怎麼樣解決房東利用這個電價來賺差價來獲利的這個漏息\n\n01:45.800 --> 02:11.549\n那我自己的辦公室也我們一直在參與跟內政部的政策的討論這部分坦白說我覺得要給內政部蠻大的肯定那今年的6月28我在我自己的社群平台上面宣傳這個政策即將要公佈實施其實獲得非常非常多年輕網友的好評不過也陸續收到了很多網友跟相關租屋族他們也很多疑問或者是他們有很多的提問\n\n02:12.847 --> 02:40.200\n那我現在看到在內政部的租賃條例的專區裡面有公布一份QA這份QA在租賃專區的QA裡面我有看到那看起來有想要回答一些問題可是說實話我看到這份QA我認為有很大改善的空間舉例來說這個我們現在在社群的平台上面收到最多的問題現在我以上列的這些我們目前看到內政部都還沒有很清楚的解釋比方說舉例\n\n02:41.340 --> 02:56.268\n租賃家的心智是否適用於營業場所﹐比方說百貨公司﹐百貨商場﹐包括夜市﹐小攤商也告訴我說﹐他們往往多架一顆燈﹐就要被夜市的管委會多收費30塊﹐像這算不算﹐電價被超收﹐像這種問題﹐\n\n02:57.409 --> 03:11.674\n二、租賃住宅市場發展及管理條例第三十四條、第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之\n\n03:13.675 --> 03:30.192\n在比方說更多人會問那租客要如何知道有沒有被房東超收電費那這部分其實我們已經跟台電商量好規劃好的一個好的大家去查詢平均電價的機制可是大家也是不知道所以我們需要給大家一些操作型的指引讓大家去做\n\n03:30.692 --> 03:57.572\n再來,房東不能透過電費來賺差價,那是不是會來趁機漲房租?那該怎麼辦?這剛剛前面有一個委員,我記得張志文委員有問到,那執行面上面到底房東要怎麼配合台電才能夠減少麻煩?這些問題我覺得都是重要的問題,但是現在在QA上面我們都沒有看到這些問題。所以部長、次長我要說,其實我們在看到現在的這個租賃市場上面有很多不同型態的房東跟租客,包括\n\n03:58.473 --> 04:00.534\n租賃住宅市場發展及管理條例第三十四條、第三十八條之二條文修正草案。\n\n04:15.439 --> 04:42.481\n在合法合規上面其實現在是需要內政部更大力的去做宣傳的要給完整的建議所以我要要求這個包括市長跟司長我覺得我們要定期來檢討這份QA那把大家遇到直接常見的問題都應該列上去其實有一個明確的答案第二個我覺得不能夠只有放在你們的網站上啊年輕人看不到啊你們要不要去利用更多的社群平台去甚至我要說\n\n04:43.683 --> 05:01.993\n你們應該我自己都覺得我們有很多的租屋網站這些租屋網站是不是直接在租屋網站上面就要標明把這訊息不得超收電費那電費該怎麼收清清楚楚的列在上面讓房東跟房客直接就可以知道不一定一定非得透過房客的檢舉才能夠去修改過去錯誤的行為\n\n05:03.214 --> 05:03.334\n市長,有沒有問題?\n\n05:19.275 --> 05:37.456\n沒問題,我們會照委員的建議做定期的對QA的修正。那也感謝委員提供一些相關的QA給我們。但我覺得重點是要花力氣、花資源主動宣傳。這是一個好的政策讓大家更多人知道,它可以廣受好評,可是只怕我們的配套不足、宣傳不足。\n\n05:38.337 --> 06:02.737\n二、租賃住宅市場發展及管理條例第三十四條、第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之二及第三十八條之\n\n06:04.062 --> 06:16.463\n其實現在很多房東來跟我們反映他們過去確實可能因為過去的習慣或者是過去前人跟他們講的做法不是合法的做法可是他們現在可能也想要改用合法的做法但是他們\n\n06:17.489 --> 06:41.031\n有些來反應,他想更知道怎麼這些操作上面的細節。第二個事情是,其實確實坦白說,很多委員講到租屋黑市的存在,是現在很多租客跟房東之間權力不平等的問題。這事情當然需要面對,可是我覺得在面對的同時幾件事情的做法,我覺得至少可以優先先做。我們政府不是不了解這個問題,但是其實已經推出很多棍子跟胡蘿蔔,\n\n06:41.972 --> 07:04.794\n但是包括房東或者是公益出租人其實我覺得我們現在也開始有所謂專案的查核在這個學校周邊想要查八千我們這都有我覺得我們要讓房東很清楚知道第一個如果你要做一個合法的房東其實你可以享有政府多少的優惠如果你要做一個非法的房東或不合規的房東你可能要付出什麼樣的代價其實我覺得這部分\n\n07:05.799 --> 07:27.179\n要擴大的宣傳讓大家知道我們把這個你可以拿到的優惠跟你會受到的懲罰之間這個要讓大家清清楚楚我覺得在大家會慢慢的做行為上面的校正因為有很多的房東他也跟我們說我們並沒有就想要當一個非法的房東可是過去長年以來的習慣是這樣我現在也想改可是我要怎麼改我需要一些政府的幫忙\n\n07:27.799 --> 07:49.213\n這部分我還是要跟內政部說我們還是現在開始說我覺得我們其實陸陸續續推出了蠻多的政策但真的有很多房東跟房客還是不了解這部分宣傳是一件事情但我們現在接下來可能想討論更多規範性的做法我也贊成要有規範性的做法但至少宣傳能夠是起的應該是第一步而且這要花資源宣傳不要把頭埋在沙裡面我覺得這是一個部分市長應該沒問題吧\n\n07:50.054 --> 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