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00:02:56,566\n政府有沒有跟人民講你廢掉河一河二現在要廢河三一年人民都負擔了幾百億台電自己的資料顯示了河山廠光是一個河山廠去年幫台電賺了300億\n\n8\n00:02:59,491 --> 00:03:01,193\n政府是不是有責任跟我們講清楚另外\n\n9\n00:03:28,487 --> 00:03:50,957\n全民一定很想知道前幾上個月行政院跟台電剛剛公布了他們的整個能源的結果一共2026年的10月我們再生能源的配比要達到20%大家知道嗎蔡英文總統8年再生能源增加幾%嗎\n\n10\n00:03:54,182 --> 00:04:16,444\n8年只增加了5%結果民進黨政府現在跟我們講他的再生能源在兩年後可以從10%跳到20%這是天方夜譚嗎他更嚴重的是什麼你的目標定這麼高弄到下面人要執行弄出一堆太陽能的弊案來有弊案就發生命案\n\n11\n00:04:17,768 --> 00:04:45,672\n政府該給人民一個交代嗎所以台灣民眾黨非常負責任的提案請下禮拜一加開院會行政院長跟台電經濟部長專案來報告跟我們講清楚可以不要只是從人民的身上一直剝皮不要只有拿人民納稅錢一直剝補一千億一千億一直放下去而且無底洞永遠填不滿不要在10月1號馬上再漲電價人民夠苦了\n\n12\n00:04:47,250 --> 00:05:08,229\n另外你的能源配備是不是出了問題為什麼把最便宜的核電把它除以掉除以掉以後那麼多幾百億的錢行政院民進黨政府有跟著你講這個錢要從哪邊來嗎所以下禮拜一期待行政院提出來不要撥補不要漲電價專案來講清楚謝謝感謝\n\n13\n00:05:13,423 --> 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