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00:02:41,780\n好謝謝委員我還是誠摯的希望大家能夠心平氣和理性的去看待整部的預算這預算裡面他縱然他有很多的人事跟一般的法定支出我們還是可以依法來執行但是重點在於一些新增的業務如果沒有預算通過的話是沒有辦法實施的那我願意很誠意的說明就是無論\n\n8\n00:02:42,734 --> 00:02:43,034\n李卓人議員\n\n9\n00:03:03,576 --> 00:03:24,224\n希望用中央整理中央預算的總預算的完整性交付給大院來審議所以在目前這個程序而言我仍然是希望說程序委員會能夠盡快的復為施肢審查審查的過程當中我們據理說明清楚那麼有任何刪減的意見大家可以來好好的討論我們都予以尊重\n\n10\n00:03:25,765 --> 00:03:40,786\n我認為中央政府總預算影響的是全台灣人民當然就以我是區域立委來講我當然是希望中央補助地方的經費能夠儘速快速到達\n\n11\n00:03:41,647 --> 00:04:06,055\n那當然如果說這個中央的預算在立法院在第一關程序委員會就被擋掉那很難就是中央的這個挹注很難挹注到地方這個尤其是挹注地方的這個建設所以我們也希望就是說不論是在野黨所有的立委應該也要去審思因為這個影響的是全台灣人民那尤其是這個地方政府的話\n\n12\n00:04:06,815 --> 00:04:07,095\n院長,因為我們在這個\n\n13\n00:04:23,647 --> 00:04:50,213\n網路上時常會看到名人詐騙在網路上投資就可以賺蠻多錢的很多人是因為看到這樣子的廣告就做這樣的一個投資我們也看到抒發部可能在最近有打詐行政院這邊相關部會也都很認真打詐的部分我想請教就是說\n\n14\n00:04:50,993 --> 00:04:51,434\n目前還有類似名人﹚\n\n15\n00:05:11,557 --> 00:05:23,009\n的這個廣告直接在網路上面去廣告就是鼓勵民眾去做投資的這個狀況如果我們這個24小時下架然後又用實名制的刊登廣告那這個成效到底是怎樣\n\n16\n00:05:24,006 --> 00:05:42,588\n我不敢否認還是有那過去我們是對於這些平台毫無力道可以作為那在打仗新法通過之後我們至少要求他下架下架就可以納管納管就必須會有責任我們就有源頭可以追溯所以目前在尋這個管道跟方式來\n\n17\n00:05:43,129 --> 00:06:11,320\n那對於若干的這種利用名人打詐﹖詐欺的這個狀況我們已經破獲了不少那麼也請一些受害的名人出來現身說法但是這個事情還是會出現那我們現在要求的是出現之後用最短的速度讓他能夠下架同時追溯到源頭所以我們現在有一個打詐的平台等等不管是165打詐中心或是這個平台都提供了這樣的管道跟方式\n\n18\n00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:34,731\n那確實是24小時下架嗎我發現在網路上有這樣的一個詐騙的一個廣告目前我們通知Facebook或者是Line通常都會在24小時之內下架那委員所提到的24小時下架的這個應該是指的是我們最近速發部公布的打詐專法的執法我們這裡面有規定說如果我們通知了這些\n\n19\n00:06:35,311 --> 00:06:35,832\n刊登廣告應該使用實名制\n\n20\n00:06:57,293 --> 00:07:08,702\n要不然其實真的這個詐騙的廣告真的非常的多而且影響受騙的人真的非常的廣所以我們希望說這個打詐的這部分我們應該還要再努力\n\n21\n00:07:09,599 --> 00:07:10,059\n臺中捷運綠線延伸到彰化\n\n22\n00:07:29,609 --> 00:07:43,955\n當時交通部李前部長也有特別提到我們預計在今年年底應該整個綜合規劃會完成我想請教因為從5月份到現在也又經過了將近4個月的時間\n\n23\n00:07:47,336 --> 00:07:47,656\n陳建仁議員\n\n24\n00:08:06,730 --> 00:08:11,113\n指詢卓院長和陳部長針對彰化非常重要的軌道建設的進度如何?\n\n25\n00:08:22,100 --> 00:08:37,905\n再來就是說地方的負責可能他自己也要有一些分擔可能要有一些分擔地方可能會提出分擔的金額這個預算可能有點多捷運綠線的話可能要分擔到67億\n\n26\n00:08:45,908 --> 00:08:46,329\n主席\n\n27\n00:09:06,451 --> 00:09:31,237\n不論是運輸或者是觀光對地方政府整體的發展真的非常的重要所以我想再一次的請卓院長針對我們彰化的這兩個軌道建設那未來中央跟地方要如何來合作那競速如果是在年底綜合規劃可以完成的話那如何來加速我們鐵路高架的進行\n\n28\n00:09:32,775 --> 00:09:57,647\n捷運綠線道彰化以及這個鐵道的高架化最新的進度這陳部長應該有所掌握請他跟委員報告先說跟委員報告這個鐵路高架化的部分目前已經進入綜合規劃的階段那環評也正在進行當中我們針對花壇跟二水的這兩個基地目前設定好是雙基地也跟地方政府也都協商好所以這個部分是沒有問題\n\n29\n00:09:58,767 --> 00:10:25,318\n加速進行的部分委員也一直在關心所以交通部這邊會竭盡所能的來協助這個地方政府在針對這個綜合規劃的部分我們盡量盡快來加速這個部分是沒有問題我們盡快來推動那如果中間還有什麼疑義的話包含經費的部分其實我們跟地方會持續來協商這個沒有問題那到時候也會拜託委員也幫忙溝通那另外針對捷運的部分其實捷運的綠線目前是由台中市政府在做這個綜合規劃的階段\n\n30\n00:10:27,219 --> 00:10:56,016\n這個部分是沒有問題但是就是說彰化的這一段比較往南的這一段因為牽涉到這個彰東的這個都市計畫那我們希望這個縣政府能夠在都市計畫的部分能夠具體一點讓我們知道說整個路線他到時候的落站點會是在哪裡因為這個還要都市計畫所以土地的規劃還沒有確定那這個部分還在等彰化縣政府不過這個部分交通部也會出面來協助臺中市政府跟彰化縣政府之間的溝通我知道委員很關心所以地方也很期待\n\n31\n00:10:56,756 --> 00:11:23,496\n所以這個部分我們會盡量來推動加速的計畫我要再次提這兩個軌道建設真的是非常非常久從我當議員到現在將近已經20年的時間這兩個從一開始就在講彰化要鐵路高架台中捷運綠線要到彰化來結果到現在還在綜合規劃那我不知道說未來我要怎麼跟我的這個地區的民眾講說\n\n32\n00:11:24,957 --> 00:11:25,117\n張嬅的主席\n\n33\n00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:55,618\n張化是六都以外人口最多的一個地方那張化可不可以發展其實有關於這兩個軌道建設如果可以做好的話其實可以帶動整個張化的都市的成長那\n\n34\n00:11:56,298 --> 00:12:20,016\n章化也是整個中小企業非常多的地方整個中部地區中小企業最多也是在章化所以我希望卓院長你的關愛的眼神是不是可以投注在章化多一點進速將這兩個軌道建設能夠如果今年年底綜合規劃可以完成之後那是不是可以中央跟地方合作加速推動這兩個軌道建設的進行\n\n35\n00:12:22,073 --> 00:12:43,375\n好我們本於這個均衡台灣的理念各地的重大建設都是非常重要的剛剛陳部長所說的這個希望地方政府跟我們必須的合作包括這個有三個戰體它周邊的開發以及財務的計畫經費的分擔等等都希望地方政府能夠緊縮的有一個說法跟規劃出來才好進行到下一波的綜合規劃\n\n36\n00:12:48,487 --> 00:12:57,978\n前幾年行政院這邊都有一些專案針對學校的專案不論是斑斑有冷氣深深有用平板\n\n37\n00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:00,060\n張嬅有很多學校﹑國中﹑國小\n\n38\n00:13:22,461 --> 00:13:22,961\n黃秀芳教育部長\n\n39\n00:13:52,266 --> 00:14:16,532\n那尤其是在我的選區裡面其實針對這個老舊廁所會影響到整個學生或者是老師的這個身體健康真的影響非常的大那我想請教就是說未來我們行政院這邊會不會針對我們這些老舊廁所會有什麼樣的專案然後來挹注地方建設\n\n40\n00:14:18,075 --> 00:14:40,892\n請部長先說明一下公立國民中小學老舊廁所的改建計畫謝謝委員關心事實上從105年到113年我們投入從行政院他用專案的一個改善老舊廁所投入了83.5億那整個做了一個改善總共有這一個3639棟那事實上這一個我們\n\n41\n00:14:47,476 --> 00:15:11,209\n中小學這裡邊每年的邊的有關這個建築物這一些硬體設備譬如說瓷磚掉落或者地平包括廁所我們實際上是邊列這個2億多但是以全國的這個廁所的改善確實是在整個年度的預算是比較不夠的但是也非常感謝行政院院長事實上看到了這個問題他也這一個\n\n42\n00:15:13,797 --> 00:15:17,821\n那我是不是可以麻煩院長針對這個我們所有全台灣的這些老舊的廁所\n\n43\n00:15:53,703 --> 00:15:54,406\n黃秀芳委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9383\t9764\t主席黃國健議員\n25356\t45599\t院長好 院長剛剛在12點左右立法院的程序委員會又將114年度的中央政府總預算退回程序委員會那我想請教就是說其實在今年8月份的時候總統有到彰化去訪視地方的社福機構\n47941\t75183\t當時國民黨執政的張化縣長王惠美王縣長也在現場跟賴總統提出張化縣有很多社福機構有需要中央這邊的幫忙尤其有五棟的社福大樓需要中央盡速合撥當場賴總統也有答應就是說只要立法院的預算通過之後\n83085\t99069\t中央政府的總預算又被退回程序委員會我覺得這應該是有史以來第一次那我當了立委第三屆我也是碰到第一次在預算會期應該是要審預算的結果是沒有預算可以審\n99989\t100009\t蔣麗芳議員\n120324\t120884\t國防預算影響\n136305\t161780\t好謝謝委員我還是誠摯的希望大家能夠心平氣和理性的去看待整部的預算這預算裡面他縱然他有很多的人事跟一般的法定支出我們還是可以依法來執行但是重點在於一些新增的業務如果沒有預算通過的話是沒有辦法實施的那我願意很誠意的說明就是無論\n162734\t163034\t李卓人議員\n183576\t204224\t希望用中央整理中央預算的總預算的完整性交付給大院來審議所以在目前這個程序而言我仍然是希望說程序委員會能夠盡快的復為施肢審查審查的過程當中我們據理說明清楚那麼有任何刪減的意見大家可以來好好的討論我們都予以尊重\n205765\t220786\t我認為中央政府總預算影響的是全台灣人民當然就以我是區域立委來講我當然是希望中央補助地方的經費能夠儘速快速到達\n221647\t246055\t那當然如果說這個中央的預算在立法院在第一關程序委員會就被擋掉那很難就是中央的這個挹注很難挹注到地方這個尤其是挹注地方的這個建設所以我們也希望就是說不論是在野黨所有的立委應該也要去審思因為這個影響的是全台灣人民那尤其是這個地方政府的話\n246815\t247095\t院長,因為我們在這個\n263647\t290213\t網路上時常會看到名人詐騙在網路上投資就可以賺蠻多錢的很多人是因為看到這樣子的廣告就做這樣的一個投資我們也看到抒發部可能在最近有打詐行政院這邊相關部會也都很認真打詐的部分我想請教就是說\n290993\t291434\t目前還有類似名人﹚\n311557\t323009\t的這個廣告直接在網路上面去廣告就是鼓勵民眾去做投資的這個狀況如果我們這個24小時下架然後又用實名制的刊登廣告那這個成效到底是怎樣\n324006\t342588\t我不敢否認還是有那過去我們是對於這些平台毫無力道可以作為那在打仗新法通過之後我們至少要求他下架下架就可以納管納管就必須會有責任我們就有源頭可以追溯所以目前在尋這個管道跟方式來\n343129\t371320\t那對於若干的這種利用名人打詐﹖詐欺的這個狀況我們已經破獲了不少那麼也請一些受害的名人出來現身說法但是這個事情還是會出現那我們現在要求的是出現之後用最短的速度讓他能夠下架同時追溯到源頭所以我們現在有一個打詐的平台等等不管是165打詐中心或是這個平台都提供了這樣的管道跟方式\n371880\t394731\t那確實是24小時下架嗎我發現在網路上有這樣的一個詐騙的一個廣告目前我們通知Facebook或者是Line通常都會在24小時之內下架那委員所提到的24小時下架的這個應該是指的是我們最近速發部公布的打詐專法的執法我們這裡面有規定說如果我們通知了這些\n395311\t395832\t刊登廣告應該使用實名制\n417293\t428702\t要不然其實真的這個詐騙的廣告真的非常的多而且影響受騙的人真的非常的廣所以我們希望說這個打詐的這部分我們應該還要再努力\n429599\t430059\t臺中捷運綠線延伸到彰化\n449609\t463955\t當時交通部李前部長也有特別提到我們預計在今年年底應該整個綜合規劃會完成我想請教因為從5月份到現在也又經過了將近4個月的時間\n467336\t467656\t陳建仁議員\n486730\t491113\t指詢卓院長和陳部長針對彰化非常重要的軌道建設的進度如何?\n502100\t517905\t再來就是說地方的負責可能他自己也要有一些分擔可能要有一些分擔地方可能會提出分擔的金額這個預算可能有點多捷運綠線的話可能要分擔到67億\n525908\t526329\t主席\n546451\t571237\t不論是運輸或者是觀光對地方政府整體的發展真的非常的重要所以我想再一次的請卓院長針對我們彰化的這兩個軌道建設那未來中央跟地方要如何來合作那競速如果是在年底綜合規劃可以完成的話那如何來加速我們鐵路高架的進行\n572775\t597647\t捷運綠線道彰化以及這個鐵道的高架化最新的進度這陳部長應該有所掌握請他跟委員報告先說跟委員報告這個鐵路高架化的部分目前已經進入綜合規劃的階段那環評也正在進行當中我們針對花壇跟二水的這兩個基地目前設定好是雙基地也跟地方政府也都協商好所以這個部分是沒有問題\n598767\t625318\t加速進行的部分委員也一直在關心所以交通部這邊會竭盡所能的來協助這個地方政府在針對這個綜合規劃的部分我們盡量盡快來加速這個部分是沒有問題我們盡快來推動那如果中間還有什麼疑義的話包含經費的部分其實我們跟地方會持續來協商這個沒有問題那到時候也會拜託委員也幫忙溝通那另外針對捷運的部分其實捷運的綠線目前是由台中市政府在做這個綜合規劃的階段\n627219\t656016\t這個部分是沒有問題但是就是說彰化的這一段比較往南的這一段因為牽涉到這個彰東的這個都市計畫那我們希望這個縣政府能夠在都市計畫的部分能夠具體一點讓我們知道說整個路線他到時候的落站點會是在哪裡因為這個還要都市計畫所以土地的規劃還沒有確定那這個部分還在等彰化縣政府不過這個部分交通部也會出面來協助臺中市政府跟彰化縣政府之間的溝通我知道委員很關心所以地方也很期待\n656756\t683496\t所以這個部分我們會盡量來推動加速的計畫我要再次提這兩個軌道建設真的是非常非常久從我當議員到現在將近已經20年的時間這兩個從一開始就在講彰化要鐵路高架台中捷運綠線要到彰化來結果到現在還在綜合規劃那我不知道說未來我要怎麼跟我的這個地區的民眾講說\n684957\t685117\t張嬅的主席\n701700\t715618\t張化是六都以外人口最多的一個地方那張化可不可以發展其實有關於這兩個軌道建設如果可以做好的話其實可以帶動整個張化的都市的成長那\n716298\t740016\t章化也是整個中小企業非常多的地方整個中部地區中小企業最多也是在章化所以我希望卓院長你的關愛的眼神是不是可以投注在章化多一點進速將這兩個軌道建設能夠如果今年年底綜合規劃可以完成之後那是不是可以中央跟地方合作加速推動這兩個軌道建設的進行\n742073\t763375\t好 我們本於這個均衡台灣的理念各地的重大建設都是非常重要的剛剛陳部長所說的這個希望地方政府跟我們必須的合作包括這個有三個戰體它周邊的開發以及財務的計畫經費的分擔等等都希望地方政府能夠緊縮的有一個說法跟規劃出來才好進行到下一波的綜合規劃\n768487\t777978\t前幾年行政院這邊都有一些專案 針對學校的專案不論是斑斑有冷氣 深深有用平板\n779560\t780060\t張嬅有很多學校﹑國中﹑國小\n802461\t802961\t黃秀芳教育部長\n832266\t856532\t那尤其是在我的選區裡面其實針對這個老舊廁所會影響到整個學生或者是老師的這個身體健康真的影響非常的大那我想請教就是說未來我們行政院這邊會不會針對我們這些老舊廁所會有什麼樣的專案然後來挹注地方建設\n858075\t880892\t請部長先說明一下公立國民中小學老舊廁所的改建計畫謝謝委員關心事實上從105年到113年我們投入從行政院他用專案的一個改善老舊廁所投入了83.5億那整個做了一個改善總共有這一個3639棟那事實上這一個我們\n887476\t911209\t中小學這裡邊每年的邊的有關這個建築物這一些硬體設備譬如說瓷磚掉落或者地平包括廁所我們實際上是邊列這個2億多但是以全國的這個廁所的改善確實是在整個年度的預算是比較不夠的但是也非常感謝行政院院長事實上看到了這個問題他也這一個\n913797\t917821\t那我是不是可以麻煩院長針對這個我們所有全台灣的這些老舊的廁所\n953703\t954406\t黃秀芳委員\n","txt":"主席黃國健議員\n院長好 院長剛剛在12點左右立法院的程序委員會又將114年度的中央政府總預算退回程序委員會那我想請教就是說其實在今年8月份的時候總統有到彰化去訪視地方的社福機構\n當時國民黨執政的張化縣長王惠美王縣長也在現場跟賴總統提出張化縣有很多社福機構有需要中央這邊的幫忙尤其有五棟的社福大樓需要中央盡速合撥當場賴總統也有答應就是說只要立法院的預算通過之後\n中央政府的總預算又被退回程序委員會我覺得這應該是有史以來第一次那我當了立委第三屆我也是碰到第一次在預算會期應該是要審預算的結果是沒有預算可以審\n蔣麗芳議員\n國防預算影響\n好謝謝委員我還是誠摯的希望大家能夠心平氣和理性的去看待整部的預算這預算裡面他縱然他有很多的人事跟一般的法定支出我們還是可以依法來執行但是重點在於一些新增的業務如果沒有預算通過的話是沒有辦法實施的那我願意很誠意的說明就是無論\n李卓人議員\n希望用中央整理中央預算的總預算的完整性交付給大院來審議所以在目前這個程序而言我仍然是希望說程序委員會能夠盡快的復為施肢審查審查的過程當中我們據理說明清楚那麼有任何刪減的意見大家可以來好好的討論我們都予以尊重\n我認為中央政府總預算影響的是全台灣人民當然就以我是區域立委來講我當然是希望中央補助地方的經費能夠儘速快速到達\n那當然如果說這個中央的預算在立法院在第一關程序委員會就被擋掉那很難就是中央的這個挹注很難挹注到地方這個尤其是挹注地方的這個建設所以我們也希望就是說不論是在野黨所有的立委應該也要去審思因為這個影響的是全台灣人民那尤其是這個地方政府的話\n院長,因為我們在這個\n網路上時常會看到名人詐騙在網路上投資就可以賺蠻多錢的很多人是因為看到這樣子的廣告就做這樣的一個投資我們也看到抒發部可能在最近有打詐行政院這邊相關部會也都很認真打詐的部分我想請教就是說\n目前還有類似名人﹚\n的這個廣告直接在網路上面去廣告就是鼓勵民眾去做投資的這個狀況如果我們這個24小時下架然後又用實名制的刊登廣告那這個成效到底是怎樣\n我不敢否認還是有那過去我們是對於這些平台毫無力道可以作為那在打仗新法通過之後我們至少要求他下架下架就可以納管納管就必須會有責任我們就有源頭可以追溯所以目前在尋這個管道跟方式來\n那對於若干的這種利用名人打詐﹖詐欺的這個狀況我們已經破獲了不少那麼也請一些受害的名人出來現身說法但是這個事情還是會出現那我們現在要求的是出現之後用最短的速度讓他能夠下架同時追溯到源頭所以我們現在有一個打詐的平台等等不管是165打詐中心或是這個平台都提供了這樣的管道跟方式\n那確實是24小時下架嗎我發現在網路上有這樣的一個詐騙的一個廣告目前我們通知Facebook或者是Line通常都會在24小時之內下架那委員所提到的24小時下架的這個應該是指的是我們最近速發部公布的打詐專法的執法我們這裡面有規定說如果我們通知了這些\n刊登廣告應該使用實名制\n要不然其實真的這個詐騙的廣告真的非常的多而且影響受騙的人真的非常的廣所以我們希望說這個打詐的這部分我們應該還要再努力\n臺中捷運綠線延伸到彰化\n當時交通部李前部長也有特別提到我們預計在今年年底應該整個綜合規劃會完成我想請教因為從5月份到現在也又經過了將近4個月的時間\n陳建仁議員\n指詢卓院長和陳部長針對彰化非常重要的軌道建設的進度如何?\n再來就是說地方的負責可能他自己也要有一些分擔可能要有一些分擔地方可能會提出分擔的金額這個預算可能有點多捷運綠線的話可能要分擔到67億\n主席\n不論是運輸或者是觀光對地方政府整體的發展真的非常的重要所以我想再一次的請卓院長針對我們彰化的這兩個軌道建設那未來中央跟地方要如何來合作那競速如果是在年底綜合規劃可以完成的話那如何來加速我們鐵路高架的進行\n捷運綠線道彰化以及這個鐵道的高架化最新的進度這陳部長應該有所掌握請他跟委員報告先說跟委員報告這個鐵路高架化的部分目前已經進入綜合規劃的階段那環評也正在進行當中我們針對花壇跟二水的這兩個基地目前設定好是雙基地也跟地方政府也都協商好所以這個部分是沒有問題\n加速進行的部分委員也一直在關心所以交通部這邊會竭盡所能的來協助這個地方政府在針對這個綜合規劃的部分我們盡量盡快來加速這個部分是沒有問題我們盡快來推動那如果中間還有什麼疑義的話包含經費的部分其實我們跟地方會持續來協商這個沒有問題那到時候也會拜託委員也幫忙溝通那另外針對捷運的部分其實捷運的綠線目前是由台中市政府在做這個綜合規劃的階段\n這個部分是沒有問題但是就是說彰化的這一段比較往南的這一段因為牽涉到這個彰東的這個都市計畫那我們希望這個縣政府能夠在都市計畫的部分能夠具體一點讓我們知道說整個路線他到時候的落站點會是在哪裡因為這個還要都市計畫所以土地的規劃還沒有確定那這個部分還在等彰化縣政府不過這個部分交通部也會出面來協助臺中市政府跟彰化縣政府之間的溝通我知道委員很關心所以地方也很期待\n所以這個部分我們會盡量來推動加速的計畫我要再次提這兩個軌道建設真的是非常非常久從我當議員到現在將近已經20年的時間這兩個從一開始就在講彰化要鐵路高架台中捷運綠線要到彰化來結果到現在還在綜合規劃那我不知道說未來我要怎麼跟我的這個地區的民眾講說\n張嬅的主席\n張化是六都以外人口最多的一個地方那張化可不可以發展其實有關於這兩個軌道建設如果可以做好的話其實可以帶動整個張化的都市的成長那\n章化也是整個中小企業非常多的地方整個中部地區中小企業最多也是在章化所以我希望卓院長你的關愛的眼神是不是可以投注在章化多一點進速將這兩個軌道建設能夠如果今年年底綜合規劃可以完成之後那是不是可以中央跟地方合作加速推動這兩個軌道建設的進行\n好 我們本於這個均衡台灣的理念各地的重大建設都是非常重要的剛剛陳部長所說的這個希望地方政府跟我們必須的合作包括這個有三個戰體它周邊的開發以及財務的計畫經費的分擔等等都希望地方政府能夠緊縮的有一個說法跟規劃出來才好進行到下一波的綜合規劃\n前幾年行政院這邊都有一些專案 針對學校的專案不論是斑斑有冷氣 深深有用平板\n張嬅有很多學校﹑國中﹑國小\n黃秀芳教育部長\n那尤其是在我的選區裡面其實針對這個老舊廁所會影響到整個學生或者是老師的這個身體健康真的影響非常的大那我想請教就是說未來我們行政院這邊會不會針對我們這些老舊廁所會有什麼樣的專案然後來挹注地方建設\n請部長先說明一下公立國民中小學老舊廁所的改建計畫謝謝委員關心事實上從105年到113年我們投入從行政院他用專案的一個改善老舊廁所投入了83.5億那整個做了一個改善總共有這一個3639棟那事實上這一個我們\n中小學這裡邊每年的邊的有關這個建築物這一些硬體設備譬如說瓷磚掉落或者地平包括廁所我們實際上是邊列這個2億多但是以全國的這個廁所的改善確實是在整個年度的預算是比較不夠的但是也非常感謝行政院院長事實上看到了這個問題他也這一個\n那我是不是可以麻煩院長針對這個我們所有全台灣的這些老舊的廁所\n黃秀芳委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.383 --> 00:09.764\n主席黃國健議員\n\n00:25.356 --> 00:45.599\n院長好院長剛剛在12點左右立法院的程序委員會又將114年度的中央政府總預算退回程序委員會那我想請教就是說其實在今年8月份的時候總統有到彰化去訪視地方的社福機構\n\n00:47.941 --> 01:15.183\n當時國民黨執政的張化縣長王惠美王縣長也在現場跟賴總統提出張化縣有很多社福機構有需要中央這邊的幫忙尤其有五棟的社福大樓需要中央盡速合撥當場賴總統也有答應就是說只要立法院的預算通過之後\n\n01:23.085 --> 01:39.069\n中央政府的總預算又被退回程序委員會我覺得這應該是有史以來第一次那我當了立委第三屆我也是碰到第一次在預算會期應該是要審預算的結果是沒有預算可以審\n\n01:39.989 --> 01:40.009\n蔣麗芳議員\n\n02:00.324 --> 02:00.884\n國防預算影響\n\n02:16.305 --> 02:41.780\n好謝謝委員我還是誠摯的希望大家能夠心平氣和理性的去看待整部的預算這預算裡面他縱然他有很多的人事跟一般的法定支出我們還是可以依法來執行但是重點在於一些新增的業務如果沒有預算通過的話是沒有辦法實施的那我願意很誠意的說明就是無論\n\n02:42.734 --> 02:43.034\n李卓人議員\n\n03:03.576 --> 03:24.224\n希望用中央整理中央預算的總預算的完整性交付給大院來審議所以在目前這個程序而言我仍然是希望說程序委員會能夠盡快的復為施肢審查審查的過程當中我們據理說明清楚那麼有任何刪減的意見大家可以來好好的討論我們都予以尊重\n\n03:25.765 --> 03:40.786\n我認為中央政府總預算影響的是全台灣人民當然就以我是區域立委來講我當然是希望中央補助地方的經費能夠儘速快速到達\n\n03:41.647 --> 04:06.055\n那當然如果說這個中央的預算在立法院在第一關程序委員會就被擋掉那很難就是中央的這個挹注很難挹注到地方這個尤其是挹注地方的這個建設所以我們也希望就是說不論是在野黨所有的立委應該也要去審思因為這個影響的是全台灣人民那尤其是這個地方政府的話\n\n04:06.815 --> 04:07.095\n院長,因為我們在這個\n\n04:23.647 --> 04:50.213\n網路上時常會看到名人詐騙在網路上投資就可以賺蠻多錢的很多人是因為看到這樣子的廣告就做這樣的一個投資我們也看到抒發部可能在最近有打詐行政院這邊相關部會也都很認真打詐的部分我想請教就是說\n\n04:50.993 --> 04:51.434\n目前還有類似名人﹚\n\n05:11.557 --> 05:23.009\n的這個廣告直接在網路上面去廣告就是鼓勵民眾去做投資的這個狀況如果我們這個24小時下架然後又用實名制的刊登廣告那這個成效到底是怎樣\n\n05:24.006 --> 05:42.588\n我不敢否認還是有那過去我們是對於這些平台毫無力道可以作為那在打仗新法通過之後我們至少要求他下架下架就可以納管納管就必須會有責任我們就有源頭可以追溯所以目前在尋這個管道跟方式來\n\n05:43.129 --> 06:11.320\n那對於若干的這種利用名人打詐﹖詐欺的這個狀況我們已經破獲了不少那麼也請一些受害的名人出來現身說法但是這個事情還是會出現那我們現在要求的是出現之後用最短的速度讓他能夠下架同時追溯到源頭所以我們現在有一個打詐的平台等等不管是165打詐中心或是這個平台都提供了這樣的管道跟方式\n\n06:11.880 --> 06:34.731\n那確實是24小時下架嗎我發現在網路上有這樣的一個詐騙的一個廣告目前我們通知Facebook或者是Line通常都會在24小時之內下架那委員所提到的24小時下架的這個應該是指的是我們最近速發部公布的打詐專法的執法我們這裡面有規定說如果我們通知了這些\n\n06:35.311 --> 06:35.832\n刊登廣告應該使用實名制\n\n06:57.293 --> 07:08.702\n要不然其實真的這個詐騙的廣告真的非常的多而且影響受騙的人真的非常的廣所以我們希望說這個打詐的這部分我們應該還要再努力\n\n07:09.599 --> 07:10.059\n臺中捷運綠線延伸到彰化\n\n07:29.609 --> 07:43.955\n當時交通部李前部長也有特別提到我們預計在今年年底應該整個綜合規劃會完成我想請教因為從5月份到現在也又經過了將近4個月的時間\n\n07:47.336 --> 07:47.656\n陳建仁議員\n\n08:06.730 --> 08:11.113\n指詢卓院長和陳部長針對彰化非常重要的軌道建設的進度如何?\n\n08:22.100 --> 08:37.905\n再來就是說地方的負責可能他自己也要有一些分擔可能要有一些分擔地方可能會提出分擔的金額這個預算可能有點多捷運綠線的話可能要分擔到67億\n\n08:45.908 --> 08:46.329\n主席\n\n09:06.451 --> 09:31.237\n不論是運輸或者是觀光對地方政府整體的發展真的非常的重要所以我想再一次的請卓院長針對我們彰化的這兩個軌道建設那未來中央跟地方要如何來合作那競速如果是在年底綜合規劃可以完成的話那如何來加速我們鐵路高架的進行\n\n09:32.775 --> 09:57.647\n捷運綠線道彰化以及這個鐵道的高架化最新的進度這陳部長應該有所掌握請他跟委員報告先說跟委員報告這個鐵路高架化的部分目前已經進入綜合規劃的階段那環評也正在進行當中我們針對花壇跟二水的這兩個基地目前設定好是雙基地也跟地方政府也都協商好所以這個部分是沒有問題\n\n09:58.767 --> 10:25.318\n加速進行的部分委員也一直在關心所以交通部這邊會竭盡所能的來協助這個地方政府在針對這個綜合規劃的部分我們盡量盡快來加速這個部分是沒有問題我們盡快來推動那如果中間還有什麼疑義的話包含經費的部分其實我們跟地方會持續來協商這個沒有問題那到時候也會拜託委員也幫忙溝通那另外針對捷運的部分其實捷運的綠線目前是由台中市政府在做這個綜合規劃的階段\n\n10:27.219 --> 10:56.016\n這個部分是沒有問題但是就是說彰化的這一段比較往南的這一段因為牽涉到這個彰東的這個都市計畫那我們希望這個縣政府能夠在都市計畫的部分能夠具體一點讓我們知道說整個路線他到時候的落站點會是在哪裡因為這個還要都市計畫所以土地的規劃還沒有確定那這個部分還在等彰化縣政府不過這個部分交通部也會出面來協助臺中市政府跟彰化縣政府之間的溝通我知道委員很關心所以地方也很期待\n\n10:56.756 --> 11:23.496\n所以這個部分我們會盡量來推動加速的計畫我要再次提這兩個軌道建設真的是非常非常久從我當議員到現在將近已經20年的時間這兩個從一開始就在講彰化要鐵路高架台中捷運綠線要到彰化來結果到現在還在綜合規劃那我不知道說未來我要怎麼跟我的這個地區的民眾講說\n\n11:24.957 --> 11:25.117\n張嬅的主席\n\n11:41.700 --> 11:55.618\n張化是六都以外人口最多的一個地方那張化可不可以發展其實有關於這兩個軌道建設如果可以做好的話其實可以帶動整個張化的都市的成長那\n\n11:56.298 --> 12:20.016\n章化也是整個中小企業非常多的地方整個中部地區中小企業最多也是在章化所以我希望卓院長你的關愛的眼神是不是可以投注在章化多一點進速將這兩個軌道建設能夠如果今年年底綜合規劃可以完成之後那是不是可以中央跟地方合作加速推動這兩個軌道建設的進行\n\n12:22.073 --> 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