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00:03:34,296\n新加坡上岸的大概有400垂簾的流量香港大概不到200的流量台灣大概有109左右的流量那大部分都從北部的海南站上來北部有三個海南站那南部的仿山呢大概上來的流量大概不到一梯啦那我是希望說在高雄是不是有機會設立這個數位港口\n\n9\n00:03:36,540 --> 00:04:04,690\n也就是說讓全球的資訊、資料、大數據可以在高雄上岸這個部分蘇發部是不是有規劃是跟委員報告本部已經在9月2號邀請相關部會包含國科會、交通部、航港局、港務公司以及高雄市政府召開座談會討論就是要將高雄海嵐的上岸地點那我們這個正在討論那我們會積極地進行這件事情\n\n10\n00:04:05,328 --> 00:04:32,709\n那什麼時候可以完成這個海欄站這個還在研商那報告委員現在還沒有明確的日期估計的時間沒有按上現在都在跟時間賽跑是那個目前我們瞭解的狀況因為這個有很多的部會必須一起合作一起負責包含那個高雄市政府所以我們這個事情我們可能雙方都要再加把勁\n\n11\n00:04:33,524 --> 00:05:02,651\n現在跟院長報告希望說院長可以幫忙追進度就是我們現在高雄可能在興達電廠那邊有之前運煤的那個通道現在那個地方是一個很好的設置海底電纜站的地方那我們其實就是大概台電跟港務公司我們幾乎都溝通過跟速發部溝通過希望說這個部分速發部可以儘速進行也就是說你一個海纜登陸站先設定好\n\n12\n00:05:03,811 --> 00:05:26,848\n將來其他海南公司都會陸續上來包括中華電信包括其他民間業者海南公司都讓他上來我希望說速發部就是用一個公平的原則以前主要上來的海南站幾乎都是中華電信但是其實我們希望說有多個不同的進來這樣子對我們的數位韌性對於我們的國安治安\n\n13\n00:05:27,668 --> 00:05:32,691\n蘇發部預定10月2日邀請7家國際海欄業者以及高雄市政府進一步開會,盡快加速這件事情還有蘇發部的100億的AI軟體\n\n14\n00:05:53,770 --> 00:06:01,096\n應用的資金主要是for我們國內的企業還是可以for地方政府還是可以for國外的企業\n\n15\n00:06:02,234 --> 00:06:02,875\n你可以看到新加坡他這裡\n\n16\n00:06:29,133 --> 00:06:53,630\n什麼叫做科技準證,我們要去世界網絡人才台灣人其實真的很強台灣人有一個做LivingOptics的AI相機其實你看包括輝達黃仁鑫台灣人包括AMD蘇之鋒台灣人包括梁建厚、美超維\n\n17\n00:06:54,639 --> 00:07:13,335\n包括這一家這一家其實是臺灣人新創他這個其實用那個顏色可以做AI的辨識其實比人眼可能要強100倍這個其實他是人才但是其實他在英國然後被新加坡吸引去了所以就是說我們這一百\n\n18\n00:07:14,110 --> 00:07:14,210\n許智傑議員\n\n19\n00:07:36,693 --> 00:07:58,499\n當然我們都不是惡人,但是好的我們可以學習,所以你吸收國際人才,包括像我們這個台灣人叫新加坡KiKi,我們也很沒差,所以這個部分可能數位發展部跟國發會甚至跟經濟部,我們是不是有一個國內的類似新加坡的經濟發展局,\n\n20\n00:08:01,898 --> 00:08:16,865\n經濟發展局跟特務一樣很厲害全世界各地的展覽他都去看看一看以後有什麼好的展覽他都去拜訪拜訪覺得將來有機會就把他找進來找進來以後這個是一個很強的企業他還可以增加就業機會可以增加國內投資\n\n21\n00:08:18,286 --> 00:08:19,327\n發展AI高科技產業最重要的是人才\n\n22\n00:08:40,471 --> 00:08:55,123\n最優秀的人才都希望居住在一個美麗迷人而且宜居的城市高雄市一個美麗迷人而且宜居的城市所以我們認為說高雄市發展AI一個很好的地點\n\n23\n00:08:58,945 --> 00:09:21,200\n中央需要專門去找人才的一個單位不管是我們的經濟部也好不管是我們的國發會也好不管是我們的速發部也好就說要有這樣子一個方向去找甚至他這個一百億的基金你否國內的企業有沒有否地方政府\n\n24\n00:09:23,370 --> 00:09:25,994\n主要是給企業如果地方政府要發展這方面的專業但是呢這個地方政府呢\n\n25\n00:09:39,893 --> 00:09:41,454\n主要是讓這個在這個地方上可以發展得更好這個我們這樣子錢可以用嗎\n\n26\n00:10:03,053 --> 00:10:28,843\n跟委員報告一下國發基金主要是依據產創條例只要符合上面的規定個別企業也可以來申請我們的資金對所以我就說其實我們在評分的時候如果加上他跟地方政府合作可以可以增加他被我們核准的機會的話事實上地方政府他要發展會有角色否則你就看不到地方政府的角色\n\n27\n00:10:29,682 --> 00:10:43,136\n我們可以看其實我們地方政府現在也很努力在招商我們可以看到那個輝達已經跟那個鴻海在我們高雄設台北灣所以那個名字叫台北灣了那是設在高雄那包括\n\n28\n00:10:43,929 --> 00:11:09,567\nMD也要把研發中心進駐高雄所以我再一次的呼籲就是亞馬遜呢中央如果說有那個角度就是臺北當臺灣政治的首都高雄當臺灣AI的首都那現在高雄正好有這個條件不管是這一些科技大廠進駐那不管是我剛提到海南站我們希望說數化部可以盡快然後跟NCC能夠盡快把這個全世界你可以看新加坡那個網路\n\n29\n00:11:11,724 --> 00:11:38,514\n新加坡你看那個海底電纜那個多強啊真的是全世界海底電纜現在幾乎是第一強的大概是新加坡那我們台灣其實這是我們一個學習的方向所以從興達電廠這裡我們電也比其他地方好我們在這邊大廠也來了甚至高雄也不缺水整體上來高雄的環境都很好那包括這一陣子其實陳其邁市長也\n\n30\n00:11:39,656 --> 00:11:39,756\n主席\n\n31\n00:12:10,109 --> 00:12:38,014\n世界很強的一個AI城市這個部分是不是院長可以認同謝謝委員報告委員包括城市長他一直是非常努力在招商在引資在留財的地方首長那高雄找一個適當的地點讓海嵐上岸所以包括委員剛剛所提的興達港在內我們還有幾個地方在評估\n\n32\n00:12:38,598 --> 00:13:07,018\n那10月2號我們會邀集7家的廠商再進一步來演講如何把高雄打造一個更符合現在所謂南部S狼帶能夠發展的一個以高雄為中心向上發展的一個基地那這個部分是符合國家重大建設的謝謝院長我的意思是說AI其實在高雄應該就是中央部會能夠幫忙強化你可以看到AI三立就是人力算力應用力那我們的\n\n33\n00:13:08,183 --> 00:13:08,343\n施政委員\n\n34\n00:13:25,061 --> 00:13:47,201\n北部的條件更適合很多所以現在就是幾個方面的條件將來我們希望說我們在這三例上面能夠再加強首先就是海南站上來再來就是資料中心跟超級電腦超級電腦現在也進來了將來就整個AI的應用能夠在高雄發光發熱把高雄的經驗可以推到全台灣甚至可以跟全世界結合\n\n35\n00:13:50,344 --> 00:14:10,702\n蘇發部、國發會、經濟部可以幫忙協助最後一個就是亞洲資產管理中心這個金融特區跟家族辦公室事實上我也看到新加坡也做得還不錯所以這個部分是不是有機會在高雄設置甚至就是境外銀行等等的高雄是一個處女地\n\n36\n00:14:12,363 --> 00:14:14,085\n高雄在過去既有的基礎上面我們能夠建置一個資產管理的一個專區或是一個聚落一個園區\n\n37\n00:14:35,023 --> 00:15:00,556\n所以現在這個方向沒有問題我們已經在規劃的更細部的做法除了延續過去我們的既有的兩三年前會討論基礎以外我們最近還會把它加入有關私人銀行還有OPU還有一些其他的加入辦公室的機能在裡面這是以高雄為主是的這個非常重要所以這是包括AI的算力人力應用力整個軟體的發展的資源\n\n38\n00:15:02,504 --> 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院長你先休息我們請那個抒發部抒發部長院長你先休息你站得太痛嗎\n我想新加坡這個投資10億的新幣大概250億的台幣在AI的發展然後他們經發局也網羅全球的人才\n那包括就是在Google在新加坡本來有3座資料中心現在已經2024今年設了第4座然後在台灣Google在我們彰化為主有資料中心微軟主要在桃園現在有一所叫做亞馬遜那他打算投資高雄\n打算投資臺灣是不是有機會到高雄這個我們也希望說中央可以重視另外新加坡其實他很會吸收人才就是從科技準證吸引國際人才等等還有一些家庭辦公室等等有很多蠻好的措施我們想先請教一下就是海底電纜海纜霸權這個是一個最基本的條件\n新加坡上岸的大概有400垂簾的流量香港大概不到200的流量台灣大概有109左右的流量那大部分都從北部的海南站上來北部有三個海南站那南部的仿山呢大概上來的流量大概不到一梯啦那我是希望說在高雄是不是有機會設立這個數位港口\n也就是說讓全球的資訊、資料、大數據可以在高雄上岸這個部分蘇發部是不是有規劃是跟委員報告本部已經在9月2號邀請相關部會包含國科會、交通部、航港局、港務公司以及高雄市政府召開座談會討論就是要將高雄海嵐的上岸地點那我們這個正在討論那我們會積極地進行這件事情\n那什麼時候可以完成這個海欄站這個還在研商那報告委員現在還沒有明確的日期估計的時間沒有按上現在都在跟時間賽跑是那個目前我們瞭解的狀況因為這個有很多的部會必須一起合作一起負責包含那個高雄市政府所以我們這個事情我們可能雙方都要再加把勁\n現在跟院長報告希望說院長可以幫忙追進度就是我們現在高雄可能在興達電廠那邊有之前運煤的那個通道現在那個地方是一個很好的設置海底電纜站的地方那我們其實就是大概台電跟港務公司我們幾乎都溝通過跟速發部溝通過希望說這個部分速發部可以儘速進行也就是說你一個海纜登陸站先設定好\n將來其他海南公司都會陸續上來包括中華電信包括其他民間業者海南公司都讓他上來我希望說速發部就是用一個公平的原則以前主要上來的海南站幾乎都是中華電信但是其實我們希望說有多個不同的進來這樣子對我們的數位韌性對於我們的國安治安\n蘇發部預定10月2日邀請7家國際海欄業者以及高雄市政府進一步開會,盡快加速這件事情還有蘇發部的100億的AI軟體\n應用的資金主要是for我們國內的企業還是可以for地方政府還是可以for國外的企業\n你可以看到新加坡他這裡\n什麼叫做科技準證,我們要去世界網絡人才台灣人其實真的很強台灣人有一個做Living Optics的AI相機其實你看包括輝達黃仁鑫台灣人包括AMD蘇之鋒台灣人包括梁建厚、美超維\n包括這一家這一家其實是臺灣人新創他這個其實用那個顏色可以做AI的辨識其實比人眼可能要強100倍這個其實他是人才但是其實他在英國然後被新加坡吸引去了所以就是說我們這一百\n許智傑議員\n當然我們都不是惡人,但是好的我們可以學習,所以你吸收國際人才,包括像我們這個台灣人叫新加坡KiKi,我們也很沒差,所以這個部分可能數位發展部跟國發會甚至跟經濟部,我們是不是有一個國內的類似新加坡的經濟發展局,\n經濟發展局跟特務一樣很厲害全世界各地的展覽他都去看看一看以後有什麼好的展覽他都去拜訪拜訪覺得將來有機會就把他找進來找進來以後這個是一個很強的企業他還可以增加就業機會可以增加國內投資\n發展AI高科技產業最重要的是人才\n最優秀的人才都希望居住在一個美麗迷人而且宜居的城市高雄市一個美麗迷人而且宜居的城市所以我們認為說高雄市發展AI一個很好的地點\n中央需要專門去找人才的一個單位不管是我們的經濟部也好不管是我們的國發會也好不管是我們的速發部也好就說要有這樣子一個方向去找甚至他這個一百億的基金你否國內的企業有沒有否地方政府\n主要是給企業如果地方政府要發展這方面的專業但是呢這個地方政府呢\n主要是讓這個在這個地方上可以發展得更好這個我們這樣子錢可以用嗎\n跟委員報告一下 國發基金主要是依據產創條例只要符合上面的規定 個別企業也可以來申請我們的資金對 所以我就說其實我們在評分的時候 如果加上他跟地方政府合作可以可以增加他被我們核准的機會的話事實上地方政府他要發展會有角色 否則你就看不到地方政府的角色\n我們可以看其實我們地方政府現在也很努力在招商我們可以看到那個輝達已經跟那個鴻海在我們高雄設台北灣所以那個名字叫台北灣了那是設在高雄那包括\nMD也要把研發中心進駐高雄所以我再一次的呼籲就是亞馬遜呢中央如果說有那個角度就是臺北當臺灣政治的首都高雄當臺灣AI的首都那現在高雄正好有這個條件不管是這一些科技大廠進駐那不管是我剛提到海南站我們希望說數化部可以盡快然後跟NCC能夠盡快把這個全世界你可以看新加坡那個網路\n新加坡你看那個海底電纜那個多強啊真的是全世界海底電纜現在幾乎是第一強的大概是新加坡那我們台灣其實這是我們一個學習的方向所以從興達電廠這裡我們電也比其他地方好我們在這邊大廠也來了甚至高雄也不缺水整體上來高雄的環境都很好那包括這一陣子其實陳其邁市長也\n主席\n世界很強的一個AI城市這個部分是不是院長可以認同謝謝委員 報告委員包括城市長他一直是非常努力在招商在引資 在留財的地方首長那高雄找一個適當的地點讓海嵐上岸所以包括委員剛剛所提的興達港在內我們還有幾個地方在評估\n那10月2號我們會邀集7家的廠商再進一步來演講如何把高雄打造一個更符合現在所謂南部S狼帶能夠發展的一個以高雄為中心向上發展的一個基地那這個部分是符合國家重大建設的謝謝院長我的意思是說AI其實在高雄應該就是中央部會能夠幫忙強化你可以看到AI三立就是人力 算力 應用力那我們的\n施政委員\n北部的條件更適合很多所以現在就是幾個方面的條件將來我們希望說我們在這三例上面能夠再加強首先就是海南站上來再來就是資料中心跟超級電腦超級電腦現在也進來了將來就整個AI的應用能夠在高雄發光發熱把高雄的經驗可以推到全台灣甚至可以跟全世界結合\n蘇發部、國發會、經濟部可以幫忙協助最後一個就是亞洲資產管理中心這個金融特區跟家族辦公室事實上我也看到新加坡也做得還不錯所以這個部分是不是有機會在高雄設置甚至就是境外銀行等等的高雄是一個處女地\n高雄在過去既有的基礎上面我們能夠建置一個資產管理的一個專區或是一個聚落一個園區\n所以現在這個方向沒有問題我們已經在規劃的更細部的做法除了延續過去我們的既有的兩三年前會討論基礎以外我們最近還會把它加入有關私人銀行還有OPU還有一些其他的加入辦公室的機能在裡面這是以高雄為主 是的這個非常重要所以這是包括AI的算力人力應用力整個軟體的發展的資源\n許智傑委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.920 --> 00:33.831\n主席大家好我們請院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢徐委員好院長好我們要推動高雄AI產業鏈打造AI首都Tech高雄這個Tech包括\n\n00:36.019 --> 00:36.940\n科技、經濟、魅力、華麗的高雄\n\n01:01.232 --> 01:22.550\n加強AI投資,我們現在有一些新創的預算,但是是不是可以讓地方政府充分的利用,我想我們整個中央的團隊可以再做一個思考\n\n01:24.622 --> 01:52.308\n亞洲資訊管理中心也是高雄的機會包括麥斯國際會議這些我們一樣一樣希望說可以來接近新加坡然後來增加我們高雄的AI的能量我想我們院長你先休息我們請那個抒發部抒發部長院長你先休息你站得太痛嗎\n\n01:53.476 --> 01:56.318\n我想新加坡這個投資10億的新幣大概250億的台幣在AI的發展然後他們經發局也網羅全球的人才\n\n02:18.135 --> 02:40.090\n那包括就是在Google在新加坡本來有3座資料中心現在已經2024今年設了第4座然後在台灣Google在我們彰化為主有資料中心微軟主要在桃園現在有一所叫做亞馬遜那他打算投資高雄\n\n02:40.860 --> 03:07.460\n打算投資臺灣是不是有機會到高雄這個我們也希望說中央可以重視另外新加坡其實他很會吸收人才就是從科技準證吸引國際人才等等還有一些家庭辦公室等等有很多蠻好的措施我們想先請教一下就是海底電纜海纜霸權這個是一個最基本的條件\n\n03:08.500 --> 03:34.296\n新加坡上岸的大概有400垂簾的流量香港大概不到200的流量台灣大概有109左右的流量那大部分都從北部的海南站上來北部有三個海南站那南部的仿山呢大概上來的流量大概不到一梯啦那我是希望說在高雄是不是有機會設立這個數位港口\n\n03:36.540 --> 04:04.690\n也就是說讓全球的資訊、資料、大數據可以在高雄上岸這個部分蘇發部是不是有規劃是跟委員報告本部已經在9月2號邀請相關部會包含國科會、交通部、航港局、港務公司以及高雄市政府召開座談會討論就是要將高雄海嵐的上岸地點那我們這個正在討論那我們會積極地進行這件事情\n\n04:05.328 --> 04:32.709\n那什麼時候可以完成這個海欄站這個還在研商那報告委員現在還沒有明確的日期估計的時間沒有按上現在都在跟時間賽跑是那個目前我們瞭解的狀況因為這個有很多的部會必須一起合作一起負責包含那個高雄市政府所以我們這個事情我們可能雙方都要再加把勁\n\n04:33.524 --> 05:02.651\n現在跟院長報告希望說院長可以幫忙追進度就是我們現在高雄可能在興達電廠那邊有之前運煤的那個通道現在那個地方是一個很好的設置海底電纜站的地方那我們其實就是大概台電跟港務公司我們幾乎都溝通過跟速發部溝通過希望說這個部分速發部可以儘速進行也就是說你一個海纜登陸站先設定好\n\n05:03.811 --> 05:26.848\n將來其他海南公司都會陸續上來包括中華電信包括其他民間業者海南公司都讓他上來我希望說速發部就是用一個公平的原則以前主要上來的海南站幾乎都是中華電信但是其實我們希望說有多個不同的進來這樣子對我們的數位韌性對於我們的國安治安\n\n05:27.668 --> 05:32.691\n蘇發部預定10月2日邀請7家國際海欄業者以及高雄市政府進一步開會,盡快加速這件事情還有蘇發部的100億的AI軟體\n\n05:53.770 --> 06:01.096\n應用的資金主要是for我們國內的企業還是可以for地方政府還是可以for國外的企業\n\n06:02.234 --> 06:02.875\n你可以看到新加坡他這裡\n\n06:29.133 --> 06:53.630\n什麼叫做科技準證,我們要去世界網絡人才台灣人其實真的很強台灣人有一個做LivingOptics的AI相機其實你看包括輝達黃仁鑫台灣人包括AMD蘇之鋒台灣人包括梁建厚、美超維\n\n06:54.639 --> 07:13.335\n包括這一家這一家其實是臺灣人新創他這個其實用那個顏色可以做AI的辨識其實比人眼可能要強100倍這個其實他是人才但是其實他在英國然後被新加坡吸引去了所以就是說我們這一百\n\n07:14.110 --> 07:14.210\n許智傑議員\n\n07:36.693 --> 07:58.499\n當然我們都不是惡人,但是好的我們可以學習,所以你吸收國際人才,包括像我們這個台灣人叫新加坡KiKi,我們也很沒差,所以這個部分可能數位發展部跟國發會甚至跟經濟部,我們是不是有一個國內的類似新加坡的經濟發展局,\n\n08:01.898 --> 08:16.865\n經濟發展局跟特務一樣很厲害全世界各地的展覽他都去看看一看以後有什麼好的展覽他都去拜訪拜訪覺得將來有機會就把他找進來找進來以後這個是一個很強的企業他還可以增加就業機會可以增加國內投資\n\n08:18.286 --> 08:19.327\n發展AI高科技產業最重要的是人才\n\n08:40.471 --> 08:55.123\n最優秀的人才都希望居住在一個美麗迷人而且宜居的城市高雄市一個美麗迷人而且宜居的城市所以我們認為說高雄市發展AI一個很好的地點\n\n08:58.945 --> 09:21.200\n中央需要專門去找人才的一個單位不管是我們的經濟部也好不管是我們的國發會也好不管是我們的速發部也好就說要有這樣子一個方向去找甚至他這個一百億的基金你否國內的企業有沒有否地方政府\n\n09:23.370 --> 09:25.994\n主要是給企業如果地方政府要發展這方面的專業但是呢這個地方政府呢\n\n09:39.893 --> 09:41.454\n主要是讓這個在這個地方上可以發展得更好這個我們這樣子錢可以用嗎\n\n10:03.053 --> 10:28.843\n跟委員報告一下國發基金主要是依據產創條例只要符合上面的規定個別企業也可以來申請我們的資金對所以我就說其實我們在評分的時候如果加上他跟地方政府合作可以可以增加他被我們核准的機會的話事實上地方政府他要發展會有角色否則你就看不到地方政府的角色\n\n10:29.682 --> 10:43.136\n我們可以看其實我們地方政府現在也很努力在招商我們可以看到那個輝達已經跟那個鴻海在我們高雄設台北灣所以那個名字叫台北灣了那是設在高雄那包括\n\n10:43.929 --> 11:09.567\nMD也要把研發中心進駐高雄所以我再一次的呼籲就是亞馬遜呢中央如果說有那個角度就是臺北當臺灣政治的首都高雄當臺灣AI的首都那現在高雄正好有這個條件不管是這一些科技大廠進駐那不管是我剛提到海南站我們希望說數化部可以盡快然後跟NCC能夠盡快把這個全世界你可以看新加坡那個網路\n\n11:11.724 --> 11:38.514\n新加坡你看那個海底電纜那個多強啊真的是全世界海底電纜現在幾乎是第一強的大概是新加坡那我們台灣其實這是我們一個學習的方向所以從興達電廠這裡我們電也比其他地方好我們在這邊大廠也來了甚至高雄也不缺水整體上來高雄的環境都很好那包括這一陣子其實陳其邁市長也\n\n11:39.656 --> 11:39.756\n主席\n\n12:10.109 --> 12:38.014\n世界很強的一個AI城市這個部分是不是院長可以認同謝謝委員報告委員包括城市長他一直是非常努力在招商在引資在留財的地方首長那高雄找一個適當的地點讓海嵐上岸所以包括委員剛剛所提的興達港在內我們還有幾個地方在評估\n\n12:38.598 --> 13:07.018\n那10月2號我們會邀集7家的廠商再進一步來演講如何把高雄打造一個更符合現在所謂南部S狼帶能夠發展的一個以高雄為中心向上發展的一個基地那這個部分是符合國家重大建設的謝謝院長我的意思是說AI其實在高雄應該就是中央部會能夠幫忙強化你可以看到AI三立就是人力算力應用力那我們的\n\n13:08.183 --> 13:08.343\n施政委員\n\n13:25.061 --> 13:47.201\n北部的條件更適合很多所以現在就是幾個方面的條件將來我們希望說我們在這三例上面能夠再加強首先就是海南站上來再來就是資料中心跟超級電腦超級電腦現在也進來了將來就整個AI的應用能夠在高雄發光發熱把高雄的經驗可以推到全台灣甚至可以跟全世界結合\n\n13:50.344 --> 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