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00:01:52,461\n報告委員那當然屏東的鄉親都非常的關心所以我一上任沒多久就到屏東去先看六塊錯的這個車站那這個部分是未來是雙鐵共購的一個車站那我們先讓屏東的鄉親知道說未來這個雙鐵共購的車站包含旁邊的都市計畫那個屏東縣政府都加速在進行那這個部分先讓屏東的鄉親知道未來的這個高鐵應該會延伸到屏東這個沒有問題\n\n6\n00:01:53,821 --> 00:02:16,768\n另外針對委員其實您相當關心的平南的這個快速道路的部分其實我們也都在做積極的討論跟研究我們希望說未來讓您的選區那邊的鄉親其實說實在話如果你從平南要到醫院去或者是要到比較北邊去那個長度非常的長那那個搭起車來大概都要到一個小時以上\n\n7\n00:02:18,648 --> 00:02:44,577\n當然花東的鄉親副委員也非常努力在爭取但他們時常提到就是說人命是無價的所以你在這個就醫的後送的部分其實希望速度快一點所以這個部分我們會再積極再努力來做這裡一定要特別拜託部長因為我們現在到恆春半島只有唯一一個平和公路所以我們很積極爭取所謂的一個平安快速道路還有包含我們的軌道建設的一個延伸性就是要去凸顯我們這樣的一個困境\n\n8\n00:02:46,078 --> 00:03:13,114\n那部長我想先請教一下這次七月份的凱米颱風造成我們台灣有一艘的貨輪沉沒然後八艘擱淺那也有一些的船員死亡跟失聯那這次颱風造成這樣大量的一個輪船的擱淺事件包含有三艘在屏東、三艘在台南、兩艘在高雄那目前我們交通部有掌握到這一相關的一個事故的原因嗎?\n\n9\n00:03:14,535 --> 00:03:39,002\n報告委員那當時我們也有依照SOP就是開米颱風要來之前我們有依照SOP像這種次標準船我們就會請他駛離港區不要讓他在港區裡面那這一次是因為這個西南氣流非常的強大甚至其中有一艘八艘擱淺的裡面其中有一艘其實已經距離岸邊40公里差不多40公里的距離但因為這個西南氣流實在太強大所以還是把它吹到了岸邊來造成這個擱淺\n\n10\n00:03:40,502 --> 00:04:07,644\n那所以針對這個部分交通部當然有掌握航港局這邊也當然有掌握這個沒有問題那另外就是說對緊急的抽油的部分我們也都已經完成至少它雖然擱淺但至少我們不要讓油污去污染到我們的海岸這個部分我們有做緊急的處理那目前已經脫離了兩艘已經兩艘離開了但是我們還有六艘我們正在積極努力在做處理那我們也跟傳通的部分也積極要做配合\n\n11\n00:04:08,104 --> 00:04:36,632\n不然因為這些擱淺的船這個已經變成我們的觀光景點了但可能也要打卡那尤其我自己我自己還到現場去看的時候覺得很危險因為大家有的靠得很近拍照甚至我還聽說有人爬上去塗鴉的這實在是很危險那所以針對目前還在擱淺的這個船隻我們也要求我們港務局應該要盡快的來做後續的一個處理並這個要再造成後續的一個會積極處理\n\n12\n00:04:40,815 --> 00:04:59,608\n另外針對目前還有一些擱淺的船隻我知道昨天那個局長來的時候有特別提到有一艘在台南的一個船隻它是登記在一個香港公司但是這個航號已經解散多年那變成我們即使開出了一個違規的一個罰單本來就是找不到人處理啦針對這樣的狀況我們後續怎麼處理\n\n13\n00:05:04,828 --> 00:05:19,709\n我想一方面我們會看這個船公司在台灣的資產的部分我們會先去調查先處理那二方面我也會積極準備如果在國際上面有一些司法的動作需要做的話我們也會積極做準備那這個細節是不是請局長是\n\n14\n00:05:24,537 --> 00:05:44,981\n這艘船的船東是香港商我們這個採儲處已經透過陸委會已經兩度都轉請這個船東來開始採訪那另外一方面就是像剛剛部長所提的後續有必要我們會以國際訴訟的方式來追查這個船東的這個責任\n\n15\n00:05:46,401 --> 00:06:09,849\n目前綱要之急就是剛剛委員提到的部長剛剛有提到油已經抽完了我們現在就是避免船在沙岸上造成潛在的危險我們現在已經緊急委託廠商預計在50個工作天左右要來進行拆除我們10月20號會來決標50個工作天來完成這個拆除\n\n16\n00:06:14,591 --> 00:06:21,665\n所以這個部分我們會特別來加速那追查的部分我想我們還是會積極來追查來保障這個機關應有的權益\n\n17\n00:06:26,404 --> 00:06:54,857\n我想在這邊還是要再次提醒交通部因為我們現在的極端氣候那麼按聲稱原本40公里就有扣的一個距離就事實上包含我們仿山也把我們一些養殖的一些管線整個都破壞掉了所以未來針對這個一個書山或是入港的部分甚至後續採取部分也應該請交通部要做一個比較完善的一個處理機制這個我們會有一個更好的處理機制因為這個部分我們交通部管的是港\n\n18\n00:06:55,717 --> 00:07:15,123\n那我們請他離港之後的那個距離我們已經有跟海巡那邊有做討論有開過兩次的會已經開過兩次的會那未來我們也會劃設海域上面的警戒區那拜託海巡這邊協助讓這些船隻可以到達更安全的距離然後避免未來又影響到我們自己的海岸\n\n19\n00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:42,508\n另外針對我想剛剛我們有好幾位委員都提到這個行人地域這個事情那我想我們的行政團隊也做了非常的努力但是根據數據來顯示我們今年一到六月的行人事故死亡183人還是比去年同年增加了一個10人那尤其是車輛位移規定讓行人先行還有號誌標誌跟標線穿越道路這些問題那我想最近我們\n\n20\n00:07:43,788 --> 00:08:01,516\n我們在地方也聽到很多的聲音因為目前我們大概都會透過一些科技執法的部分來減輕我們的一個同仁的負擔還有我們警員的一個負擔但是相對性科技執法越多罰單越多民運也不斷那針對這個部分部長怎麼樣去思考這個問題\n\n21\n00:08:03,077 --> 00:08:31,047\n這個部分我們還是希望說減少事故的方面我剛剛有講過第一個部分我們要窮盡所有的工程的可能性我們在工程面做改善那另外一方面民眾的這個交通安全的教育的宣導要把交通安全這個概念跟觀念置入到所有的民眾的腦海裡面這個是最重要的其實要減少違規的話教育還是最重要的大家如果有守法守規的觀念的話基本上不太需要執法不太需要執法\n\n22\n00:08:31,787 --> 00:08:52,397\n那所以當大家觀念不足而我們又希望能夠讓一些人有警惕的時候執法那當然也是一個必要的手段不過那個平衡點的部分可能可以討論那這個部分因為執法面不是在交通部是內政部所管轄的那這個部分內政部應該也會做很妥適的這個安排平衡點他們會去抓\n\n23\n00:08:53,197 --> 00:09:09,778\n部長那因為我知道我們目前有盤點了全台灣799處的一個路口改善進度嘛但看起來6度的比例還是遠高於非6度那尤其屏東縣目前只有8條被列入這樣子一個改善的一個路段那我認為這樣的評估是\n\n24\n00:09:12,020 --> 00:09:31,811\n有問題的因為依我們屏東縣來講這個幅員遼闊那城鄉的差距又很大那真的這樣的狀況是不是有機會我們重新來盤點過那另外針對我們屏東縣政府的發報的部分確實也因為經費的不足所以造成有些危險路段發報也不容易這部分是不是請交通部也來主動來協助\n\n25\n00:09:32,791 --> 00:09:58,882\n如果可以的話這個發包的經費不足的部分我們盡量來協助因為我們所知道是只要他年底之前完工應該是中央政府會全額來補助所以經費上面應該問題不會這麼大但是如果屏東縣政府有需要協助的部分沒有問題我們就來我們主動來跟屏東縣政府了解那包含因為這個補助的部分不是只有交通部也有一大部分是國土署那我們會協同國土署一起來跟屏東縣政府\n\n26\n00:09:59,543 --> 00:10:16,458\n目前我們掌握到是我們還有五個地方,包含潮州四個地方、東港一個地方,那這裡都是一個交通流量非常大的一個地方,是不是我們針對這部分來積極來協助一下我們?我們會跟內政部來配合,然後跟國土署來配合積極協助屏東縣政府,沒有問題。\n\n27\n00:10:17,299 --> 00:10:31,191\n最後一個我想墾丁的發展還有大鵬灣的觀光發展也是我們這個屏東縣的一個很重要的一個觀光的一個產業那我想先請教一下部長大鵬灣的這個招標的計畫目前的進度為何\n\n28\n00:10:34,874 --> 00:10:53,266\n當然我們積極在辦理整個大鵬灣的觀光對於整體的屏東來說實在非常重要所以我們希望在114年也就是明年的1月能夠評選出最優的申請人那我們希望在明年的2到5月之間用促參招商的這個議約跟簽約的部分我們來盡量讓他來完成\n\n29\n00:10:54,710 --> 00:11:23,308\n那另外針對肯定國家公園的問題那我也感謝我們內政部董政次這個禮拜有召集了我們相關的部會來協調但是我覺得開市會一定不會解決肯定的問題那後續包含我們的公路局也好觀光署也好還有相關的部會我們希望一起來共同努力肯定不能只是被污名化我們要讓肯定有更多一個新的亮點更多一個新的風貌然後呈現在國人的眼前那請我們相關的部會大家一起來努力謝謝\n\n30\n00:11:24,690 --> 00:11:25,413\n謝謝委員我們一起努力\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2041\t19092\t謝謝主席,有請我們陳部長跟我們香港局的葉局長。好,陳部長。葉局長。部長好、局長好、委員好。\n21345\t39078\t謝謝部長部長一上任也很快的時間就先到我們屏東來關切我們高鐵南沿的一個進度但是在這邊我要先跟部長提醒說我們屏東我們有陸海空的一個條件我們有兩個機場\n40279\t68391\t那也有東流線跟現在新園延浦到小琉球的一個航線那我們南北狹長112公里那我們整個公路系統有包含我們的平地有包含我們的山區還有離島的一個環境那所以交通平權對屏東來講一直是我們一直包含本席跟我們屏東縣政府我們一直努力要追求的一個目標那尤其我們賴總統在這次競選期間包含他就任之後\n68951\t69231\t請部長答覆\n88631\t112461\t報告委員那當然屏東的鄉親都非常的關心所以我一上任沒多久就到屏東去先看六塊錯的這個車站那這個部分是未來是雙鐵共購的一個車站那我們先讓屏東的鄉親知道說未來這個雙鐵共購的車站包含旁邊的都市計畫那個屏東縣政府都加速在進行那這個部分先讓屏東的鄉親知道未來的這個高鐵應該會延伸到屏東這個沒有問題\n113821\t136768\t另外針對委員其實您相當關心的平南的這個快速道路的部分其實我們也都在做積極的討論跟研究我們希望說未來讓您的選區那邊的鄉親其實說實在話如果你從平南要到醫院去或者是要到比較北邊去那個長度非常的長那那個搭起車來大概都要到一個小時以上\n138648\t164577\t當然花東的鄉親副委員也非常努力在爭取但他們時常提到就是說人命是無價的所以你在這個就醫的後送的部分其實希望速度快一點所以這個部分我們會再積極再努力來做這裡一定要特別拜託部長因為我們現在到恆春半島只有唯一一個平和公路所以我們很積極爭取所謂的一個平安快速道路還有包含我們的軌道建設的一個延伸性就是要去凸顯我們這樣的一個困境\n166078\t193114\t那部長我想先請教一下這次七月份的凱米颱風造成我們台灣有一艘的貨輪沉沒然後八艘擱淺那也有一些的船員死亡跟失聯那這次颱風造成這樣大量的一個輪船的擱淺事件包含有三艘在屏東、三艘在台南、兩艘在高雄那目前我們交通部有掌握到這一相關的一個事故的原因嗎?\n194535\t219002\t報告委員那當時我們也有依照SOP就是開米颱風要來之前我們有依照SOP像這種次標準船我們就會請他駛離港區不要讓他在港區裡面那這一次是因為這個西南氣流非常的強大甚至其中有一艘八艘擱淺的裡面其中有一艘其實已經距離岸邊40公里差不多40公里的距離但因為這個西南氣流實在太強大所以還是把它吹到了岸邊來造成這個擱淺\n220502\t247644\t那所以針對這個部分交通部當然有掌握航港局這邊也當然有掌握這個沒有問題那另外就是說對緊急的抽油的部分我們也都已經完成至少它雖然擱淺但至少我們不要讓油污去污染到我們的海岸這個部分我們有做緊急的處理那目前已經脫離了兩艘已經兩艘離開了但是我們還有六艘我們正在積極努力在做處理那我們也跟傳通的部分也積極要做配合\n248104\t276632\t不然因為這些擱淺的船這個已經變成我們的觀光景點了但可能也要打卡那尤其我自己我自己還到現場去看的時候覺得很危險因為大家有的靠得很近拍照甚至我還聽說有人爬上去塗鴉的這實在是很危險那所以針對目前還在擱淺的這個船隻我們也要求我們港務局應該要盡快的來做後續的一個處理並這個要再造成後續的一個會積極處理\n280815\t299608\t另外針對目前還有一些擱淺的船隻我知道昨天那個局長來的時候有特別提到有一艘在台南的一個船隻它是登記在一個香港公司但是這個航號已經解散多年那變成我們即使開出了一個違規的一個罰單本來就是找不到人處理啦針對這樣的狀況我們後續怎麼處理\n304828\t319709\t我想一方面我們會看這個船公司在台灣的資產的部分我們會先去調查先處理那二方面我也會積極準備如果在國際上面有一些司法的動作需要做的話我們也會積極做準備那這個細節是不是請局長是\n324537\t344981\t這艘船的船東是香港商我們這個採儲處已經透過陸委會已經兩度都轉請這個船東來開始採訪那另外一方面就是像剛剛部長所提的後續有必要我們會以國際訴訟的方式來追查這個船東的這個責任\n346401\t369849\t目前綱要之急就是剛剛委員提到的部長剛剛有提到油已經抽完了我們現在就是避免船在沙岸上造成潛在的危險我們現在已經緊急委託廠商預計在50個工作天左右要來進行拆除我們10月20號會來決標50個工作天來完成這個拆除\n374591\t381665\t所以這個部分我們會特別來加速那追查的部分我想我們還是會積極來追查來保障這個機關應有的權益\n386404\t414857\t我想在這邊還是要再次提醒交通部因為我們現在的極端氣候那麼按聲稱原本40公里就有扣的一個距離就事實上包含我們仿山也把我們一些養殖的一些管線整個都破壞掉了所以未來針對這個一個書山或是入港的部分甚至後續採取部分也應該請交通部要做一個比較完善的一個處理機制這個我們會有一個更好的處理機制因為這個部分我們交通部管的是港\n415717\t435123\t那我們請他離港之後的那個距離我們已經有跟海巡那邊有做討論有開過兩次的會已經開過兩次的會那未來我們也會劃設海域上面的警戒區那拜託海巡這邊協助讓這些船隻可以到達更安全的距離然後避免未來又影響到我們自己的海岸\n436280\t462508\t另外針對我想剛剛我們有好幾位委員都提到這個行人地域這個事情那我想我們的行政團隊也做了非常的努力但是根據數據來顯示我們今年一到六月的行人事故死亡183人還是比去年同年增加了一個10人那尤其是車輛位移規定讓行人先行還有號誌標誌跟標線穿越道路這些問題那我想最近我們\n463788\t481516\t我們在地方也聽到很多的聲音因為目前我們大概都會透過一些科技執法的部分來減輕我們的一個同仁的負擔還有我們警員的一個負擔但是相對性科技執法越多罰單越多民運也不斷那針對這個部分部長怎麼樣去思考這個問題\n483077\t511047\t這個部分我們還是希望說減少事故的方面我剛剛有講過第一個部分我們要窮盡所有的工程的可能性我們在工程面做改善那另外一方面民眾的這個交通安全的教育的宣導要把交通安全這個概念跟觀念置入到所有的民眾的腦海裡面這個是最重要的其實要減少違規的話教育還是最重要的大家如果有守法守規的觀念的話基本上不太需要執法不太需要執法\n511787\t532397\t那所以當大家觀念不足而我們又希望能夠讓一些人有警惕的時候執法那當然也是一個必要的手段不過那個平衡點的部分可能可以討論那這個部分因為執法面不是在交通部是內政部所管轄的那這個部分內政部應該也會做很妥適的這個安排平衡點他們會去抓\n533197\t549778\t部長那因為我知道我們目前有盤點了全台灣799處的一個路口改善進度嘛但看起來6度的比例還是遠高於非6度那尤其屏東縣目前只有8條被列入這樣子一個改善的一個路段那我認為這樣的評估是\n552020\t571811\t有問題的因為依我們屏東縣來講這個幅員遼闊那城鄉的差距又很大那真的這樣的狀況是不是有機會我們重新來盤點過那另外針對我們屏東縣政府的發報的部分確實也因為經費的不足所以造成有些危險路段發報也不容易這部分是不是請交通部也來主動來協助\n572791\t598882\t如果可以的話這個發包的經費不足的部分我們盡量來協助因為我們所知道是只要他年底之前完工應該是中央政府會全額來補助所以經費上面應該問題不會這麼大但是如果屏東縣政府有需要協助的部分沒有問題我們就來我們主動來跟屏東縣政府了解那包含因為這個補助的部分不是只有交通部也有一大部分是國土署那我們會協同國土署一起來跟屏東縣政府\n599543\t616458\t目前我們掌握到是我們還有五個地方,包含潮州四個地方、東港一個地方,那這裡都是一個交通流量非常大的一個地方,是不是我們針對這部分來積極來協助一下我們?我們會跟內政部來配合,然後跟國土署來配合積極協助屏東縣政府,沒有問題。\n617299\t631191\t最後一個我想墾丁的發展還有大鵬灣的觀光發展也是我們這個屏東縣的一個很重要的一個觀光的一個產業那我想先請教一下部長大鵬灣的這個招標的計畫目前的進度為何\n634874\t653266\t當然我們積極在辦理整個大鵬灣的觀光對於整體的屏東來說實在非常重要所以我們希望在114年也就是明年的1月能夠評選出最優的申請人那我們希望在明年的2到5月之間用促參招商的這個議約跟簽約的部分我們來盡量讓他來完成\n654710\t683308\t那另外針對肯定國家公園的問題那我也感謝我們內政部董政次這個禮拜有召集了我們相關的部會來協調但是我覺得開市會一定不會解決肯定的問題那後續包含我們的公路局也好觀光署也好還有相關的部會我們希望一起來共同努力肯定不能只是被污名化我們要讓肯定有更多一個新的亮點更多一個新的風貌然後呈現在國人的眼前那請我們相關的部會大家一起來努力謝謝\n684690\t685413\t謝謝委員我們一起努力\n","txt":"謝謝主席,有請我們陳部長跟我們香港局的葉局長。好,陳部長。葉局長。部長好、局長好、委員好。\n謝謝部長部長一上任也很快的時間就先到我們屏東來關切我們高鐵南沿的一個進度但是在這邊我要先跟部長提醒說我們屏東我們有陸海空的一個條件我們有兩個機場\n那也有東流線跟現在新園延浦到小琉球的一個航線那我們南北狹長112公里那我們整個公路系統有包含我們的平地有包含我們的山區還有離島的一個環境那所以交通平權對屏東來講一直是我們一直包含本席跟我們屏東縣政府我們一直努力要追求的一個目標那尤其我們賴總統在這次競選期間包含他就任之後\n請部長答覆\n報告委員那當然屏東的鄉親都非常的關心所以我一上任沒多久就到屏東去先看六塊錯的這個車站那這個部分是未來是雙鐵共購的一個車站那我們先讓屏東的鄉親知道說未來這個雙鐵共購的車站包含旁邊的都市計畫那個屏東縣政府都加速在進行那這個部分先讓屏東的鄉親知道未來的這個高鐵應該會延伸到屏東這個沒有問題\n另外針對委員其實您相當關心的平南的這個快速道路的部分其實我們也都在做積極的討論跟研究我們希望說未來讓您的選區那邊的鄉親其實說實在話如果你從平南要到醫院去或者是要到比較北邊去那個長度非常的長那那個搭起車來大概都要到一個小時以上\n當然花東的鄉親副委員也非常努力在爭取但他們時常提到就是說人命是無價的所以你在這個就醫的後送的部分其實希望速度快一點所以這個部分我們會再積極再努力來做這裡一定要特別拜託部長因為我們現在到恆春半島只有唯一一個平和公路所以我們很積極爭取所謂的一個平安快速道路還有包含我們的軌道建設的一個延伸性就是要去凸顯我們這樣的一個困境\n那部長我想先請教一下這次七月份的凱米颱風造成我們台灣有一艘的貨輪沉沒然後八艘擱淺那也有一些的船員死亡跟失聯那這次颱風造成這樣大量的一個輪船的擱淺事件包含有三艘在屏東、三艘在台南、兩艘在高雄那目前我們交通部有掌握到這一相關的一個事故的原因嗎?\n報告委員那當時我們也有依照SOP就是開米颱風要來之前我們有依照SOP像這種次標準船我們就會請他駛離港區不要讓他在港區裡面那這一次是因為這個西南氣流非常的強大甚至其中有一艘八艘擱淺的裡面其中有一艘其實已經距離岸邊40公里差不多40公里的距離但因為這個西南氣流實在太強大所以還是把它吹到了岸邊來造成這個擱淺\n那所以針對這個部分交通部當然有掌握航港局這邊也當然有掌握這個沒有問題那另外就是說對緊急的抽油的部分我們也都已經完成至少它雖然擱淺但至少我們不要讓油污去污染到我們的海岸這個部分我們有做緊急的處理那目前已經脫離了兩艘已經兩艘離開了但是我們還有六艘我們正在積極努力在做處理那我們也跟傳通的部分也積極要做配合\n不然因為這些擱淺的船這個已經變成我們的觀光景點了但可能也要打卡那尤其我自己我自己還到現場去看的時候覺得很危險因為大家有的靠得很近拍照甚至我還聽說有人爬上去塗鴉的這實在是很危險那所以針對目前還在擱淺的這個船隻我們也要求我們港務局應該要盡快的來做後續的一個處理並這個要再造成後續的一個會積極處理\n另外針對目前還有一些擱淺的船隻我知道昨天那個局長來的時候有特別提到有一艘在台南的一個船隻它是登記在一個香港公司但是這個航號已經解散多年那變成我們即使開出了一個違規的一個罰單本來就是找不到人處理啦針對這樣的狀況我們後續怎麼處理\n我想一方面我們會看這個船公司在台灣的資產的部分我們會先去調查先處理那二方面我也會積極準備如果在國際上面有一些司法的動作需要做的話我們也會積極做準備那這個細節是不是請局長是\n這艘船的船東是香港商我們這個採儲處已經透過陸委會已經兩度都轉請這個船東來開始採訪那另外一方面就是像剛剛部長所提的後續有必要我們會以國際訴訟的方式來追查這個船東的這個責任\n目前綱要之急就是剛剛委員提到的部長剛剛有提到油已經抽完了我們現在就是避免船在沙岸上造成潛在的危險我們現在已經緊急委託廠商預計在50個工作天左右要來進行拆除我們10月20號會來決標50個工作天來完成這個拆除\n所以這個部分我們會特別來加速那追查的部分我想我們還是會積極來追查來保障這個機關應有的權益\n我想在這邊還是要再次提醒交通部因為我們現在的極端氣候那麼按聲稱原本40公里就有扣的一個距離就事實上包含我們仿山也把我們一些養殖的一些管線整個都破壞掉了所以未來針對這個一個書山或是入港的部分甚至後續採取部分也應該請交通部要做一個比較完善的一個處理機制這個我們會有一個更好的處理機制因為這個部分我們交通部管的是港\n那我們請他離港之後的那個距離我們已經有跟海巡那邊有做討論有開過兩次的會已經開過兩次的會那未來我們也會劃設海域上面的警戒區那拜託海巡這邊協助讓這些船隻可以到達更安全的距離然後避免未來又影響到我們自己的海岸\n另外針對我想剛剛我們有好幾位委員都提到這個行人地域這個事情那我想我們的行政團隊也做了非常的努力但是根據數據來顯示我們今年一到六月的行人事故死亡183人還是比去年同年增加了一個10人那尤其是車輛位移規定讓行人先行還有號誌標誌跟標線穿越道路這些問題那我想最近我們\n我們在地方也聽到很多的聲音因為目前我們大概都會透過一些科技執法的部分來減輕我們的一個同仁的負擔還有我們警員的一個負擔但是相對性科技執法越多罰單越多民運也不斷那針對這個部分部長怎麼樣去思考這個問題\n這個部分我們還是希望說減少事故的方面我剛剛有講過第一個部分我們要窮盡所有的工程的可能性我們在工程面做改善那另外一方面民眾的這個交通安全的教育的宣導要把交通安全這個概念跟觀念置入到所有的民眾的腦海裡面這個是最重要的其實要減少違規的話教育還是最重要的大家如果有守法守規的觀念的話基本上不太需要執法不太需要執法\n那所以當大家觀念不足而我們又希望能夠讓一些人有警惕的時候執法那當然也是一個必要的手段不過那個平衡點的部分可能可以討論那這個部分因為執法面不是在交通部是內政部所管轄的那這個部分內政部應該也會做很妥適的這個安排平衡點他們會去抓\n部長那因為我知道我們目前有盤點了全台灣799處的一個路口改善進度嘛但看起來6度的比例還是遠高於非6度那尤其屏東縣目前只有8條被列入這樣子一個改善的一個路段那我認為這樣的評估是\n有問題的因為依我們屏東縣來講這個幅員遼闊那城鄉的差距又很大那真的這樣的狀況是不是有機會我們重新來盤點過那另外針對我們屏東縣政府的發報的部分確實也因為經費的不足所以造成有些危險路段發報也不容易這部分是不是請交通部也來主動來協助\n如果可以的話這個發包的經費不足的部分我們盡量來協助因為我們所知道是只要他年底之前完工應該是中央政府會全額來補助所以經費上面應該問題不會這麼大但是如果屏東縣政府有需要協助的部分沒有問題我們就來我們主動來跟屏東縣政府了解那包含因為這個補助的部分不是只有交通部也有一大部分是國土署那我們會協同國土署一起來跟屏東縣政府\n目前我們掌握到是我們還有五個地方,包含潮州四個地方、東港一個地方,那這裡都是一個交通流量非常大的一個地方,是不是我們針對這部分來積極來協助一下我們?我們會跟內政部來配合,然後跟國土署來配合積極協助屏東縣政府,沒有問題。\n最後一個我想墾丁的發展還有大鵬灣的觀光發展也是我們這個屏東縣的一個很重要的一個觀光的一個產業那我想先請教一下部長大鵬灣的這個招標的計畫目前的進度為何\n當然我們積極在辦理整個大鵬灣的觀光對於整體的屏東來說實在非常重要所以我們希望在114年也就是明年的1月能夠評選出最優的申請人那我們希望在明年的2到5月之間用促參招商的這個議約跟簽約的部分我們來盡量讓他來完成\n那另外針對肯定國家公園的問題那我也感謝我們內政部董政次這個禮拜有召集了我們相關的部會來協調但是我覺得開市會一定不會解決肯定的問題那後續包含我們的公路局也好觀光署也好還有相關的部會我們希望一起來共同努力肯定不能只是被污名化我們要讓肯定有更多一個新的亮點更多一個新的風貌然後呈現在國人的眼前那請我們相關的部會大家一起來努力謝謝\n謝謝委員我們一起努力\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.041 --> 00:19.092\n謝謝主席,有請我們陳部長跟我們香港局的葉局長。好,陳部長。葉局長。部長好、局長好、委員好。\n\n00:21.345 --> 00:39.078\n謝謝部長部長一上任也很快的時間就先到我們屏東來關切我們高鐵南沿的一個進度但是在這邊我要先跟部長提醒說我們屏東我們有陸海空的一個條件我們有兩個機場\n\n00:40.279 --> 01:08.391\n那也有東流線跟現在新園延浦到小琉球的一個航線那我們南北狹長112公里那我們整個公路系統有包含我們的平地有包含我們的山區還有離島的一個環境那所以交通平權對屏東來講一直是我們一直包含本席跟我們屏東縣政府我們一直努力要追求的一個目標那尤其我們賴總統在這次競選期間包含他就任之後\n\n01:08.951 --> 01:09.231\n請部長答覆\n\n01:28.631 --> 01:52.461\n報告委員那當然屏東的鄉親都非常的關心所以我一上任沒多久就到屏東去先看六塊錯的這個車站那這個部分是未來是雙鐵共購的一個車站那我們先讓屏東的鄉親知道說未來這個雙鐵共購的車站包含旁邊的都市計畫那個屏東縣政府都加速在進行那這個部分先讓屏東的鄉親知道未來的這個高鐵應該會延伸到屏東這個沒有問題\n\n01:53.821 --> 02:16.768\n另外針對委員其實您相當關心的平南的這個快速道路的部分其實我們也都在做積極的討論跟研究我們希望說未來讓您的選區那邊的鄉親其實說實在話如果你從平南要到醫院去或者是要到比較北邊去那個長度非常的長那那個搭起車來大概都要到一個小時以上\n\n02:18.648 --> 02:44.577\n當然花東的鄉親副委員也非常努力在爭取但他們時常提到就是說人命是無價的所以你在這個就醫的後送的部分其實希望速度快一點所以這個部分我們會再積極再努力來做這裡一定要特別拜託部長因為我們現在到恆春半島只有唯一一個平和公路所以我們很積極爭取所謂的一個平安快速道路還有包含我們的軌道建設的一個延伸性就是要去凸顯我們這樣的一個困境\n\n02:46.078 --> 03:13.114\n那部長我想先請教一下這次七月份的凱米颱風造成我們台灣有一艘的貨輪沉沒然後八艘擱淺那也有一些的船員死亡跟失聯那這次颱風造成這樣大量的一個輪船的擱淺事件包含有三艘在屏東、三艘在台南、兩艘在高雄那目前我們交通部有掌握到這一相關的一個事故的原因嗎?\n\n03:14.535 --> 03:39.002\n報告委員那當時我們也有依照SOP就是開米颱風要來之前我們有依照SOP像這種次標準船我們就會請他駛離港區不要讓他在港區裡面那這一次是因為這個西南氣流非常的強大甚至其中有一艘八艘擱淺的裡面其中有一艘其實已經距離岸邊40公里差不多40公里的距離但因為這個西南氣流實在太強大所以還是把它吹到了岸邊來造成這個擱淺\n\n03:40.502 --> 04:07.644\n那所以針對這個部分交通部當然有掌握航港局這邊也當然有掌握這個沒有問題那另外就是說對緊急的抽油的部分我們也都已經完成至少它雖然擱淺但至少我們不要讓油污去污染到我們的海岸這個部分我們有做緊急的處理那目前已經脫離了兩艘已經兩艘離開了但是我們還有六艘我們正在積極努力在做處理那我們也跟傳通的部分也積極要做配合\n\n04:08.104 --> 04:36.632\n不然因為這些擱淺的船這個已經變成我們的觀光景點了但可能也要打卡那尤其我自己我自己還到現場去看的時候覺得很危險因為大家有的靠得很近拍照甚至我還聽說有人爬上去塗鴉的這實在是很危險那所以針對目前還在擱淺的這個船隻我們也要求我們港務局應該要盡快的來做後續的一個處理並這個要再造成後續的一個會積極處理\n\n04:40.815 --> 04:59.608\n另外針對目前還有一些擱淺的船隻我知道昨天那個局長來的時候有特別提到有一艘在台南的一個船隻它是登記在一個香港公司但是這個航號已經解散多年那變成我們即使開出了一個違規的一個罰單本來就是找不到人處理啦針對這樣的狀況我們後續怎麼處理\n\n05:04.828 --> 05:19.709\n我想一方面我們會看這個船公司在台灣的資產的部分我們會先去調查先處理那二方面我也會積極準備如果在國際上面有一些司法的動作需要做的話我們也會積極做準備那這個細節是不是請局長是\n\n05:24.537 --> 05:44.981\n這艘船的船東是香港商我們這個採儲處已經透過陸委會已經兩度都轉請這個船東來開始採訪那另外一方面就是像剛剛部長所提的後續有必要我們會以國際訴訟的方式來追查這個船東的這個責任\n\n05:46.401 --> 06:09.849\n目前綱要之急就是剛剛委員提到的部長剛剛有提到油已經抽完了我們現在就是避免船在沙岸上造成潛在的危險我們現在已經緊急委託廠商預計在50個工作天左右要來進行拆除我們10月20號會來決標50個工作天來完成這個拆除\n\n06:14.591 --> 06:21.665\n所以這個部分我們會特別來加速那追查的部分我想我們還是會積極來追查來保障這個機關應有的權益\n\n06:26.404 --> 06:54.857\n我想在這邊還是要再次提醒交通部因為我們現在的極端氣候那麼按聲稱原本40公里就有扣的一個距離就事實上包含我們仿山也把我們一些養殖的一些管線整個都破壞掉了所以未來針對這個一個書山或是入港的部分甚至後續採取部分也應該請交通部要做一個比較完善的一個處理機制這個我們會有一個更好的處理機制因為這個部分我們交通部管的是港\n\n06:55.717 --> 07:15.123\n那我們請他離港之後的那個距離我們已經有跟海巡那邊有做討論有開過兩次的會已經開過兩次的會那未來我們也會劃設海域上面的警戒區那拜託海巡這邊協助讓這些船隻可以到達更安全的距離然後避免未來又影響到我們自己的海岸\n\n07:16.280 --> 07:42.508\n另外針對我想剛剛我們有好幾位委員都提到這個行人地域這個事情那我想我們的行政團隊也做了非常的努力但是根據數據來顯示我們今年一到六月的行人事故死亡183人還是比去年同年增加了一個10人那尤其是車輛位移規定讓行人先行還有號誌標誌跟標線穿越道路這些問題那我想最近我們\n\n07:43.788 --> 08:01.516\n我們在地方也聽到很多的聲音因為目前我們大概都會透過一些科技執法的部分來減輕我們的一個同仁的負擔還有我們警員的一個負擔但是相對性科技執法越多罰單越多民運也不斷那針對這個部分部長怎麼樣去思考這個問題\n\n08:03.077 --> 08:31.047\n這個部分我們還是希望說減少事故的方面我剛剛有講過第一個部分我們要窮盡所有的工程的可能性我們在工程面做改善那另外一方面民眾的這個交通安全的教育的宣導要把交通安全這個概念跟觀念置入到所有的民眾的腦海裡面這個是最重要的其實要減少違規的話教育還是最重要的大家如果有守法守規的觀念的話基本上不太需要執法不太需要執法\n\n08:31.787 --> 08:52.397\n那所以當大家觀念不足而我們又希望能夠讓一些人有警惕的時候執法那當然也是一個必要的手段不過那個平衡點的部分可能可以討論那這個部分因為執法面不是在交通部是內政部所管轄的那這個部分內政部應該也會做很妥適的這個安排平衡點他們會去抓\n\n08:53.197 --> 09:09.778\n部長那因為我知道我們目前有盤點了全台灣799處的一個路口改善進度嘛但看起來6度的比例還是遠高於非6度那尤其屏東縣目前只有8條被列入這樣子一個改善的一個路段那我認為這樣的評估是\n\n09:12.020 --> 09:31.811\n有問題的因為依我們屏東縣來講這個幅員遼闊那城鄉的差距又很大那真的這樣的狀況是不是有機會我們重新來盤點過那另外針對我們屏東縣政府的發報的部分確實也因為經費的不足所以造成有些危險路段發報也不容易這部分是不是請交通部也來主動來協助\n\n09:32.791 --> 09:58.882\n如果可以的話這個發包的經費不足的部分我們盡量來協助因為我們所知道是只要他年底之前完工應該是中央政府會全額來補助所以經費上面應該問題不會這麼大但是如果屏東縣政府有需要協助的部分沒有問題我們就來我們主動來跟屏東縣政府了解那包含因為這個補助的部分不是只有交通部也有一大部分是國土署那我們會協同國土署一起來跟屏東縣政府\n\n09:59.543 --> 10:16.458\n目前我們掌握到是我們還有五個地方,包含潮州四個地方、東港一個地方,那這裡都是一個交通流量非常大的一個地方,是不是我們針對這部分來積極來協助一下我們?我們會跟內政部來配合,然後跟國土署來配合積極協助屏東縣政府,沒有問題。\n\n10:17.299 --> 10:31.191\n最後一個我想墾丁的發展還有大鵬灣的觀光發展也是我們這個屏東縣的一個很重要的一個觀光的一個產業那我想先請教一下部長大鵬灣的這個招標的計畫目前的進度為何\n\n10:34.874 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