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00:01:56,101\n那我在想許多的重大的建設,尤其是在交通我們交通委員所關心其實那時候你在陪同不管是蔡英文總統或是賴清德總統不管在競選期間其實你應該都了解他們的承諾那我是想要先直接先就教一下那在終結進南投的部分那是不是部長也可以向這個承諾這個是支持\n\n5\n00:01:56,841 --> 00:02:04,639\n支持這個終極青藍軸的建設那同時是預估在什麼期間的時候是可以有一個完成或進度\n\n6\n00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:30,068\n我們這個臺中的這個捷運的部分我知道油耗委員一直非常關心能不能夠進去到南投縣因為目前我看南投草屯這邊的人口也越來越多在網內其實觀光的價值也非常的高那目前比較有可能是我們臺中的局縣臺中市的局縣那目前正在進行可行性的研究可行性研究那目前我們希望\n\n7\n00:02:31,711 --> 00:02:54,413\n對我們希望他能夠一方面其實台中市那邊的委員也在爭取能夠延伸到霧峰那如果假使到霧峰其實跨過去這個南投的草屯只差了一條溪跨過溪大概就到草屯了所以距離並不遠那需求也應該有那這個部分我們會希望台中市政府在可行性研究的\n\n8\n00:02:54,693 --> 00:02:55,413\n所以部長你是表態是全力支持嗎?\n\n9\n00:03:15,675 --> 00:03:37,385\n其實我覺得整個都會區的交通的便捷尤其是公共運輸的交通便捷是相當的重要那我也理解說草屯這邊的生活圈其實已經跟大台中的這個都市的生活圈大部分是併在一起了所以未來我相信這個需求會越來越高那如果越來越高的時候我們朝這個方向努力我是覺得是可以的真的是支持\n\n10\n00:03:38,952 --> 00:03:58,853\n我蠻支持的但是要看可行性研究的狀況怎麼做那大致上就是可行性評估以及包括後面劉佑就接南投的這個區塊的這個相關的報告以及相關的這個這條局限上的部分那在有勞交通部這邊能夠協調的都是政府南投省政府一定也是全力配合\n\n11\n00:03:59,574 --> 00:04:14,852\n是那今天的主要的重點在這個行人地域的部分那在2022年的這篇報導上來講那CNN來評論就是目前我國的交通路行人地域那這一則報導來講那部長你覺得公允嗎?\n\n12\n00:04:18,036 --> 00:04:33,241\n這樣的文字當然對台灣來講是一個非常大的傷害不過我也必須要說的是台灣的這個交通的狀況確實是很多的民眾很擔憂我自己在路上也會覺得這個部分是應該要再更積極的加強跟檢討跟改進的部分\n\n13\n00:04:34,441 --> 00:04:52,613\n那我想就交交部長那像目前來講因為我知道你有準備了很多資料你覺得在任內一開始之後你覺得最主要要推的三件的一個重點是如何能夠盡速的來改善這個交通的這個問題\n\n14\n00:04:53,683 --> 00:05:16,344\n我想當時我上任之後大概第四天吧有這個交通安全的這個記者會我們每一週都召開那我大概過了上任之後四天每個月我都會召開一次那上任四天就召開了啦那當時的媒體的朋友也有問到這件事那我說的說法是這樣子我們先窮盡一切工程改善的可能性\n\n15\n00:05:16,764 --> 00:05:31,296\n在工程面做改善道路的安全的部分。那第二個,針對這個行人交通安全跟行車安全的這個觀念的教育跟宣導我們必須要多做一些。那第三個,因為我們看到這個造勢的樣態\n\n16\n00:05:33,157 --> 00:05:56,402\n百分之二十一是因為車子沒有禮讓行人的違規百分之十九是因為行人沒有依照標線標誌穿越馬路所造成的違規那總共已經佔了四成是違規的樣態所以最後我還有提到的一個是所謂的執法面的部分那剛剛很多委員在關心其實我講的蠻完整的但很可惜的是媒體只標註了後面那一個那但是還有第四個\n\n17\n00:05:57,162 --> 00:05:58,203\n二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就、雙十假期數波返鄉車潮之交通整備暨海陸空疏運計畫\n\n18\n00:06:12,389 --> 00:06:37,484\n好那我就直接就叫裡面的宣導的部分那在目前來講在今年度總共交通部辦了多少次的相關的這種交通安全的宣導以及在哪些面向哪些單位有辦理過以及在未來的話在宣導如何來去做加強因為在日本其實是很重宣導的這塊尤其在學校的部分但是目前交通部在今年截至目前為止總共辦了多少場次\n\n19\n00:06:38,540 --> 00:07:07,365\n報告委員場次的部分你說細節我大概等一下再請相關單位跟您報告但是我必須要跟委員報告的是說我們針對樂齡中心或者是老人比較聚集的地方我們都有在做那另外其實比較多一點的是我們跟地方政府一起合作的包含新北市政府、台中市政府等等的很多地方政府其實我們都有合作在做這個宣導跟教育的工作那我們也都有補助經費給他們因為這個教育不是只有教育那個交通部來做就夠了\n\n20\n00:07:07,705 --> 00:07:30,641\n部長我就是打斷一下就是當然說我知道有心要做所以說這個交通部在輔助那我也希望本席希望能夠得到資料那不管是我們來提供給縣市政府以及說不管是在因為我們都議員出身啦那所以說在地方社區啊包括熱林中心啊或是各種社團級都有在跑那所以說有沒有配合\n\n21\n00:07:31,501 --> 00:07:57,371\n現時政府或警察局他們在宣導的話其實大致上我們都會預告所以我想說那目前配合現在政府在今年度截至目前為止辦了多少場次以及未來預計過的話多少場次還有在哪些的面向包括是在學校還辦了多少場次因為交通部必須要完全掌握他才能夠針對這個宣導來去做一個全面甚至說在一些特別的案例還有像是我們看到這次的一個不幸的悲劇\n\n22\n00:07:58,551 --> 00:08:24,914\n所以說我們希望說在這種宣導上能夠持續加強因為工程的改善、執法等等相關都是大家都一定清楚的好那我們再來看這個你曾經有提過一個在臉書上的文章全區盲點系統就是盲區內輪車主動警示系統列入公車評鑑項目這你應該也很懷念這是你那時候你推動當初我在議員任內的時候爭取希望能夠做到的\n\n23\n00:08:24,994 --> 00:08:51,604\n那我想請教一下那像你推動的這麼重要的一個雖然能夠列入評鑑那目前全國納入評鑑的一個情況如何報告委員當時我是擔任議員所以我在爭取的是臺中市政府要將這些項目納入評鑑那當時臺中市政府有一些已經加進去了那現在全國各縣市政府全國各縣市政府目前為止我沒有掌握這些那知道嗎市長\n\n24\n00:08:52,684 --> 00:08:57,789\n二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就、「雙十假期數波返鄉車潮之交通整備暨海陸空疏運計畫。二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就、「雙十假期數波返鄉車潮之交通整備暨海陸空疏運計畫。\n\n25\n00:09:08,658 --> 00:09:33,732\n那沒關係那我是希望說在過去您當議員期間的理念那我相信這個一定也是地方意見的一個會期那能夠在您當部長的時候也能夠簡單就看了這一件那就會看一下下次我們在一個時間或下個會期再看一下目前推動的執行的一個情況未來推動能執行的狀況我會跟委員來報告因為我們還看到很多提案我覺得來看一下到時候如果在全國來實踐\n\n26\n00:09:35,433 --> 00:10:00,823\n那再來的話我們看一下集集支線基礎建設那這個部分昨天董事長來的時候也有提到說希望能夠加快在集集支線的一個就是提早能夠完工因為目前集集水里確實因為這樣剛剛受到很大的影響那我想請教一下就是是不是讓這個董事長簡單說一下目前完成的騎乘一機希望能夠提早\n\n27\n00:10:01,403 --> 00:10:02,204\n二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就\n\n28\n00:10:18,745 --> 00:10:33,011\n讓董事長補充一下謝謝委員剛剛委員提到的我們集計支線的一個整修的計畫我們是預計在明年的年底來做一個恢復通車那這個現在都在進程上面我們會努力來進行\n\n29\n00:10:34,292 --> 00:10:50,336\n好那太好了那我在想目前來講期程它是規劃在2026年那如果說到時候能夠確實能夠完成這個進度的時候我們再邀部長來地方上再來跟大家做一個會開說明是我們希望能夠加速加強謝謝好謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n23095\t24116\t有請部長好 陳部長\n38533\t62280\t那也大家對於部長就任交通部長之後大家有許多的期待那其實在看今天交通部所屬許多的單位確實也很盡責的在昨天其實幾乎都在跟交通委員進行拜會所以大約超過八成現場的就是主管其實昨天都已經針對很多議題做討論\n65783\t89224\t那也知道部長是很有憧憬其實為了想說要跟你更多的深入探討我跟我的辦公室就花了好長一段時間把你臉書所有的爬文都爬過了還有把你以前把瓦台中市議會提的三接院提的許多案子都大致上都看過了\n90405\t116101\t那我在想許多的重大的建設,尤其是在交通我們交通委員所關心其實那時候你在陪同不管是蔡英文總統或是賴清德總統不管在競選期間其實你應該都了解他們的承諾那我是想要先直接先就教一下那在終結進南投的部分那是不是部長也可以向這個承諾這個是支持\n116841\t124639\t支持這個終極青藍軸的建設那同時是預估在什麼期間的時候是可以有一個完成或進度\n125510\t150068\t我們這個臺中的這個捷運的部分我知道油耗委員一直非常關心能不能夠進去到南投縣因為目前我看南投草屯這邊的人口也越來越多在網內其實觀光的價值也非常的高那目前比較有可能是我們臺中的局縣臺中市的局縣那目前正在進行可行性的研究可行性研究那目前我們希望\n151711\t174413\t對我們希望他能夠一方面其實台中市那邊的委員也在爭取能夠延伸到霧峰那如果假使到霧峰其實跨過去這個南投的草屯只差了一條溪跨過溪大概就到草屯了所以距離並不遠那需求也應該有那這個部分我們會希望台中市政府在可行性研究的\n174693\t175413\t所以部長你是表態是全力支持嗎?\n195675\t217385\t其實我覺得整個都會區的交通的便捷尤其是公共運輸的交通便捷是相當的重要那我也理解說草屯這邊的生活圈其實已經跟大台中的這個都市的生活圈大部分是併在一起了所以未來我相信這個需求會越來越高那如果越來越高的時候我們朝這個方向努力我是覺得是可以的真的是支持\n218952\t238853\t我蠻支持的但是要看可行性研究的狀況怎麼做那大致上就是可行性評估以及包括後面劉佑就接南投的這個區塊的這個相關的報告以及相關的這個這條局限上的部分那在有勞交通部這邊能夠協調的都是政府南投省政府一定也是全力配合\n239574\t254852\t是那今天的主要的重點在這個行人地域的部分那在2022年的這篇報導上來講那CNN來評論就是目前我國的交通路行人地域那這一則報導來講那部長你覺得公允嗎?\n258036\t273241\t這樣的文字當然對台灣來講是一個非常大的傷害不過我也必須要說的是台灣的這個交通的狀況確實是很多的民眾很擔憂我自己在路上也會覺得這個部分是應該要再更積極的加強跟檢討跟改進的部分\n274441\t292613\t那我想就交交部長那像目前來講因為我知道你有準備了很多資料你覺得在任內一開始之後你覺得最主要要推的三件的一個重點是如何能夠盡速的來改善這個交通的這個問題\n293683\t316344\t我想當時我上任之後大概第四天吧有這個交通安全的這個記者會我們每一週都召開那我大概過了上任之後四天每個月我都會召開一次那上任四天就召開了啦那當時的媒體的朋友也有問到這件事那我說的說法是這樣子我們先窮盡一切工程改善的可能性\n316764\t331296\t在工程面做改善道路的安全的部分。那第二個,針對這個行人交通安全跟行車安全的這個觀念的教育跟宣導我們必須要多做一些。那第三個,因為我們看到這個造勢的樣態\n333157\t356402\t百分之二十一是因為車子沒有禮讓行人的違規百分之十九是因為行人沒有依照標線標誌穿越馬路所造成的違規那總共已經佔了四成是違規的樣態所以最後我還有提到的一個是所謂的執法面的部分那剛剛很多委員在關心其實我講的蠻完整的但很可惜的是媒體只標註了後面那一個那但是還有第四個\n357162\t358203\t二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就、雙十假期數波返鄉車潮之交通整備暨海陸空疏運計畫\n372389\t397484\t好那我就直接就叫裡面的宣導的部分那在目前來講在今年度總共交通部辦了多少次的相關的這種交通安全的宣導以及在哪些面向哪些單位有辦理過以及在未來的話在宣導如何來去做加強因為在日本其實是很重宣導的這塊尤其在學校的部分但是目前交通部在今年截至目前為止總共辦了多少場次\n398540\t427365\t報告委員場次的部分你說細節我大概等一下再請相關單位跟您報告但是我必須要跟委員報告的是說我們針對樂齡中心或者是老人比較聚集的地方我們都有在做那另外其實比較多一點的是我們跟地方政府一起合作的包含新北市政府、台中市政府等等的很多地方政府其實我們都有合作在做這個宣導跟教育的工作那我們也都有補助經費給他們因為這個教育不是只有教育那個交通部來做就夠了\n427705\t450641\t部長我就是打斷一下就是當然說我知道有心要做所以說這個交通部在輔助那我也希望本席希望能夠得到資料那不管是我們來提供給縣市政府以及說不管是在因為我們都議員出身啦那所以說在地方社區啊包括熱林中心啊或是各種社團級都有在跑那所以說有沒有配合\n451501\t477371\t現時政府或警察局他們在宣導的話其實大致上我們都會預告所以我想說那目前配合現在政府在今年度截至目前為止辦了多少場次以及未來預計過的話多少場次還有在哪些的面向包括是在學校還辦了多少場次因為交通部必須要完全掌握他才能夠針對這個宣導來去做一個全面甚至說在一些特別的案例還有像是我們看到這次的一個不幸的悲劇\n478551\t504914\t所以說我們希望說在這種宣導上能夠持續加強因為工程的改善、執法等等相關都是大家都一定清楚的好那我們再來看這個你曾經有提過一個在臉書上的文章全區盲點系統就是盲區內輪車主動警示系統列入公車評鑑項目這你應該也很懷念這是你那時候你推動當初我在議員任內的時候爭取希望能夠做到的\n504994\t531604\t那我想請教一下那像你推動的這麼重要的一個雖然能夠列入評鑑那目前全國納入評鑑的一個情況如何報告委員當時我是擔任議員所以我在爭取的是臺中市政府要將這些項目納入評鑑那當時臺中市政府有一些已經加進去了那現在全國各縣市政府全國各縣市政府目前為止我沒有掌握這些那知道嗎市長\n532684\t537789\t二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就、「雙十假期數波返鄉車潮之交通整備暨海陸空疏運計畫。二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就、「雙十假期數波返鄉車潮之交通整備暨海陸空疏運計畫。\n548658\t573732\t那沒關係那我是希望說在過去您當議員期間的理念那我相信這個一定也是地方意見的一個會期那能夠在您當部長的時候也能夠簡單就看了這一件那就會看一下下次我們在一個時間或下個會期再看一下目前推動的執行的一個情況未來推動能執行的狀況我會跟委員來報告因為我們還看到很多提案我覺得來看一下到時候如果在全國來實踐\n575433\t600823\t那再來的話我們看一下集集支線基礎建設那這個部分昨天董事長來的時候也有提到說希望能夠加快在集集支線的一個就是提早能夠完工因為目前集集水里確實因為這樣剛剛受到很大的影響那我想請教一下就是是不是讓這個董事長簡單說一下目前完成的騎乘一機希望能夠提早\n601403\t602204\t二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就\n618745\t633011\t讓董事長補充一下謝謝委員剛剛委員提到的我們集計支線的一個整修的計畫我們是預計在明年的年底來做一個恢復通車那這個現在都在進程上面我們會努力來進行\n634292\t650336\t好 那太好了那我在想目前來講期程它是規劃在2026年那如果說到時候能夠確實能夠完成這個進度的時候我們再邀部長來地方上再來跟大家做一個會開說明是 我們希望能夠加速加強謝謝好 謝謝委員\n","txt":"有請部長好 陳部長\n那也大家對於部長就任交通部長之後大家有許多的期待那其實在看今天交通部所屬許多的單位確實也很盡責的在昨天其實幾乎都在跟交通委員進行拜會所以大約超過八成現場的就是主管其實昨天都已經針對很多議題做討論\n那也知道部長是很有憧憬其實為了想說要跟你更多的深入探討我跟我的辦公室就花了好長一段時間把你臉書所有的爬文都爬過了還有把你以前把瓦台中市議會提的三接院提的許多案子都大致上都看過了\n那我在想許多的重大的建設,尤其是在交通我們交通委員所關心其實那時候你在陪同不管是蔡英文總統或是賴清德總統不管在競選期間其實你應該都了解他們的承諾那我是想要先直接先就教一下那在終結進南投的部分那是不是部長也可以向這個承諾這個是支持\n支持這個終極青藍軸的建設那同時是預估在什麼期間的時候是可以有一個完成或進度\n我們這個臺中的這個捷運的部分我知道油耗委員一直非常關心能不能夠進去到南投縣因為目前我看南投草屯這邊的人口也越來越多在網內其實觀光的價值也非常的高那目前比較有可能是我們臺中的局縣臺中市的局縣那目前正在進行可行性的研究可行性研究那目前我們希望\n對我們希望他能夠一方面其實台中市那邊的委員也在爭取能夠延伸到霧峰那如果假使到霧峰其實跨過去這個南投的草屯只差了一條溪跨過溪大概就到草屯了所以距離並不遠那需求也應該有那這個部分我們會希望台中市政府在可行性研究的\n所以部長你是表態是全力支持嗎?\n其實我覺得整個都會區的交通的便捷尤其是公共運輸的交通便捷是相當的重要那我也理解說草屯這邊的生活圈其實已經跟大台中的這個都市的生活圈大部分是併在一起了所以未來我相信這個需求會越來越高那如果越來越高的時候我們朝這個方向努力我是覺得是可以的真的是支持\n我蠻支持的但是要看可行性研究的狀況怎麼做那大致上就是可行性評估以及包括後面劉佑就接南投的這個區塊的這個相關的報告以及相關的這個這條局限上的部分那在有勞交通部這邊能夠協調的都是政府南投省政府一定也是全力配合\n是那今天的主要的重點在這個行人地域的部分那在2022年的這篇報導上來講那CNN來評論就是目前我國的交通路行人地域那這一則報導來講那部長你覺得公允嗎?\n這樣的文字當然對台灣來講是一個非常大的傷害不過我也必須要說的是台灣的這個交通的狀況確實是很多的民眾很擔憂我自己在路上也會覺得這個部分是應該要再更積極的加強跟檢討跟改進的部分\n那我想就交交部長那像目前來講因為我知道你有準備了很多資料你覺得在任內一開始之後你覺得最主要要推的三件的一個重點是如何能夠盡速的來改善這個交通的這個問題\n我想當時我上任之後大概第四天吧有這個交通安全的這個記者會我們每一週都召開那我大概過了上任之後四天每個月我都會召開一次那上任四天就召開了啦那當時的媒體的朋友也有問到這件事那我說的說法是這樣子我們先窮盡一切工程改善的可能性\n在工程面做改善道路的安全的部分。那第二個,針對這個行人交通安全跟行車安全的這個觀念的教育跟宣導我們必須要多做一些。那第三個,因為我們看到這個造勢的樣態\n百分之二十一是因為車子沒有禮讓行人的違規百分之十九是因為行人沒有依照標線標誌穿越馬路所造成的違規那總共已經佔了四成是違規的樣態所以最後我還有提到的一個是所謂的執法面的部分那剛剛很多委員在關心其實我講的蠻完整的但很可惜的是媒體只標註了後面那一個那但是還有第四個\n二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就、雙十假期數波返鄉車潮之交通整備暨海陸空疏運計畫\n好那我就直接就叫裡面的宣導的部分那在目前來講在今年度總共交通部辦了多少次的相關的這種交通安全的宣導以及在哪些面向哪些單位有辦理過以及在未來的話在宣導如何來去做加強因為在日本其實是很重宣導的這塊尤其在學校的部分但是目前交通部在今年截至目前為止總共辦了多少場次\n報告委員場次的部分你說細節我大概等一下再請相關單位跟您報告但是我必須要跟委員報告的是說我們針對樂齡中心或者是老人比較聚集的地方我們都有在做那另外其實比較多一點的是我們跟地方政府一起合作的包含新北市政府、台中市政府等等的很多地方政府其實我們都有合作在做這個宣導跟教育的工作那我們也都有補助經費給他們因為這個教育不是只有教育那個交通部來做就夠了\n部長我就是打斷一下就是當然說我知道有心要做所以說這個交通部在輔助那我也希望本席希望能夠得到資料那不管是我們來提供給縣市政府以及說不管是在因為我們都議員出身啦那所以說在地方社區啊包括熱林中心啊或是各種社團級都有在跑那所以說有沒有配合\n現時政府或警察局他們在宣導的話其實大致上我們都會預告所以我想說那目前配合現在政府在今年度截至目前為止辦了多少場次以及未來預計過的話多少場次還有在哪些的面向包括是在學校還辦了多少場次因為交通部必須要完全掌握他才能夠針對這個宣導來去做一個全面甚至說在一些特別的案例還有像是我們看到這次的一個不幸的悲劇\n所以說我們希望說在這種宣導上能夠持續加強因為工程的改善、執法等等相關都是大家都一定清楚的好那我們再來看這個你曾經有提過一個在臉書上的文章全區盲點系統就是盲區內輪車主動警示系統列入公車評鑑項目這你應該也很懷念這是你那時候你推動當初我在議員任內的時候爭取希望能夠做到的\n那我想請教一下那像你推動的這麼重要的一個雖然能夠列入評鑑那目前全國納入評鑑的一個情況如何報告委員當時我是擔任議員所以我在爭取的是臺中市政府要將這些項目納入評鑑那當時臺中市政府有一些已經加進去了那現在全國各縣市政府全國各縣市政府目前為止我沒有掌握這些那知道嗎市長\n二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就、「雙十假期數波返鄉車潮之交通整備暨海陸空疏運計畫。二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就、「雙十假期數波返鄉車潮之交通整備暨海陸空疏運計畫。\n那沒關係那我是希望說在過去您當議員期間的理念那我相信這個一定也是地方意見的一個會期那能夠在您當部長的時候也能夠簡單就看了這一件那就會看一下下次我們在一個時間或下個會期再看一下目前推動的執行的一個情況未來推動能執行的狀況我會跟委員來報告因為我們還看到很多提案我覺得來看一下到時候如果在全國來實踐\n那再來的話我們看一下集集支線基礎建設那這個部分昨天董事長來的時候也有提到說希望能夠加快在集集支線的一個就是提早能夠完工因為目前集集水里確實因為這樣剛剛受到很大的影響那我想請教一下就是是不是讓這個董事長簡單說一下目前完成的騎乘一機希望能夠提早\n二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就\n讓董事長補充一下謝謝委員剛剛委員提到的我們集計支線的一個整修的計畫我們是預計在明年的年底來做一個恢復通車那這個現在都在進程上面我們會努力來進行\n好 那太好了那我在想目前來講期程它是規劃在2026年那如果說到時候能夠確實能夠完成這個進度的時候我們再邀部長來地方上再來跟大家做一個會開說明是 我們希望能夠加速加強謝謝好 謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:23.095 --> 00:24.116\n有請部長好陳部長\n\n00:38.533 --> 01:02.280\n那也大家對於部長就任交通部長之後大家有許多的期待那其實在看今天交通部所屬許多的單位確實也很盡責的在昨天其實幾乎都在跟交通委員進行拜會所以大約超過八成現場的就是主管其實昨天都已經針對很多議題做討論\n\n01:05.783 --> 01:29.224\n那也知道部長是很有憧憬其實為了想說要跟你更多的深入探討我跟我的辦公室就花了好長一段時間把你臉書所有的爬文都爬過了還有把你以前把瓦台中市議會提的三接院提的許多案子都大致上都看過了\n\n01:30.405 --> 01:56.101\n那我在想許多的重大的建設,尤其是在交通我們交通委員所關心其實那時候你在陪同不管是蔡英文總統或是賴清德總統不管在競選期間其實你應該都了解他們的承諾那我是想要先直接先就教一下那在終結進南投的部分那是不是部長也可以向這個承諾這個是支持\n\n01:56.841 --> 02:04.639\n支持這個終極青藍軸的建設那同時是預估在什麼期間的時候是可以有一個完成或進度\n\n02:05.510 --> 02:30.068\n我們這個臺中的這個捷運的部分我知道油耗委員一直非常關心能不能夠進去到南投縣因為目前我看南投草屯這邊的人口也越來越多在網內其實觀光的價值也非常的高那目前比較有可能是我們臺中的局縣臺中市的局縣那目前正在進行可行性的研究可行性研究那目前我們希望\n\n02:31.711 --> 02:54.413\n對我們希望他能夠一方面其實台中市那邊的委員也在爭取能夠延伸到霧峰那如果假使到霧峰其實跨過去這個南投的草屯只差了一條溪跨過溪大概就到草屯了所以距離並不遠那需求也應該有那這個部分我們會希望台中市政府在可行性研究的\n\n02:54.693 --> 02:55.413\n所以部長你是表態是全力支持嗎?\n\n03:15.675 --> 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