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00:02:03,142\n提升行政院公務人員人工智慧知能實施計畫整個計畫大概有五大內容包括高階人才的AI共識營包括AI推動食物種子人員的課程\n\n7\n00:02:25,277 --> 00:02:47,518\n包括公務人員AI通識課程另外還有公務機關運用AI工作坊以及這個公務機關AI應用成果競賽我看這整個大概這個人工智慧智能實施計畫大概就這五大工作重點其中有三個重點是我們人種的工作對不對\n\n8\n00:02:49,569 --> 00:02:55,512\n有關這個公務機關運用AI工作坊跟這個公務機關AI應用成果計畫這個是競賽這個是屬於抒發部其他三個都是我們人總的業務對不對好所以我就\n\n9\n00:03:04,054 --> 00:03:32,580\n因為這樣子所以我就來檢視說我們齁這三個我們人種的重要的工作在這個提升這個人工智慧智能實施計畫裡面我們人種的重要工作應該最重要工作就是三個目標啦齁就是就是高階人才的AI共識營跟這個AI推動食物種子人員課程跟這個公務人員AI的通識課程對不對這是這三個工作嘛齁那我們來一一檢視啦齁\n\n10\n00:03:35,727 --> 00:03:44,413\n有關這個高階人才AI共識營我們現在辦過了首長部會首長的共識營對不對要辦過副首長的共識營接下來是要辦三級機關\n\n11\n00:03:53,072 --> 00:04:19,171\n山崎機關首長今天下午要辦今天下午要辦今天下午好那這個辦理的目的那跟AI計畫他本身我這樣看這辦這個共識營很好但是有一個問題就是說這個看起來你們這個辦這個共識營你們沒有KPI你們沒有定說你們這個到底要達成什麼樣的核心目標我跟委員報告一下\n\n12\n00:04:20,694 --> 00:04:26,756\n接下來好像你們還要辦科長級以上的總值人才認證班對不對你們大概估計的期程跟人數大概是多少\n\n13\n00:04:52,392 --> 00:04:59,760\n我們今年會辦一起先來示範看,今年要看因為相關部會36個,每年辦6期我委員報告齁\n\n14\n00:05:07,549 --> 00:05:22,059\n人事總署辦的是對教務單位找人來,然後數位發展部辦的是找資訊人員來辦,因為我們有分工,我們有分工,好,沒關係,你一期讓你示範看看啦,示範看看,但是我之前說課長中央部會這麼多課長,你辦第一期好像36個人,我是覺得太少啦,\n\n15\n00:05:33,107 --> 00:05:39,310\n首長的公視營都轉播了,首長都要出席了你現在科長的部分,這麼多科長,36個人來參加而已這你們去考慮啦,要去建議啦再來,我們說的第2點有關AI實務總指援員課程的部分我在這裡大概要請教啦就是說你們這些課程我看了你們很多的計畫啦尤其是應用趨勢及實作課程的部分\n\n16\n00:06:02,571 --> 00:06:13,263\n我看你們這個這個你們這些計畫你們有沒有納入這個機關自己辦的教育訓練這個部分是不是在納入你們計畫中各機關自辦的還是你們這個計畫只是你們自己辦的\n\n17\n00:06:17,233 --> 00:06:40,599\n我跟委員報告我們有分兩個區塊人事總署辦的是屬於通案型的應用通案型的我賣出的是會議紀錄自動化啦還是相關法規還是大家補費都會用到我們偏向這一種共用型的那各個機關你想環境部也好他們就自己辦他們自己跟業務相關的我先問啦齁您應用趨勢及實作課程你們預計辦理多少場\n\n18\n00:06:48,663 --> 00:06:52,488\n總處運用趨勢及時做課程的部分我們是六班辦理六班嗎\n\n19\n00:07:06,735 --> 00:07:06,895\n沈發惠議員\n\n20\n00:07:36,818 --> 00:07:52,981\n有這個行政院所屬機關有推動公務人員終身學習的實施要點也就是說我們公務人員有學習時數的要求對不對20秒鐘我看你們這個辦法裡面你們有一個行政院在112年12月26日有一個函就是說這20個小時裡面學習時數其中10個小時\n\n21\n00:08:04,884 --> 00:08:27,130\n就是比較必修的啦齁你都20但是有10件事你要必修必修包括當前政府重要政策環境教育民主價值課程性別平等連政府服務倫理人權教育轉型正義行政中立多元族群公民參與我在你們網站上面看到這個也你們列出也全部都列出來了\n\n22\n00:08:28,325 --> 00:08:55,808\n那我們AI有沒有可能納入?進那整個menu會把它納進來會把它納進這個10個小時之內變成必修課程我們現在還在檢討是加入這裡盡量就是來調整把AI會加在這10小時裡面加在這10小時裡面它會變成必修課程中的一個選擇一個選項這個部分就是說就是本席這個要特別在這裡\n\n23\n00:08:57,031 --> 00:08:57,491\n接下来\n\n24\n00:09:26,394 --> 00:09:45,815\n還有一個就是說我們是不是能夠將AI的公務人力納入這個我們的這個元額評鑑的重點我們按照這個從101年開始每辦理每兩年都辦理一次元額評鑑對不對我們現在是113年的元額評鑑所以我們下一次的元額評鑑計畫是115年開始的對不對\n\n25\n00:09:49,178 --> 00:10:05,933\n有沒有可能把這個這個納入這個把AI的這個這個運用吼納入我們的這個言語評鑑也一定會因為我們今年113年已經有幾個場次我們就是請AI畫面領域的專家跟我們一起去做言語評鑑\n\n26\n00:10:07,514 --> 00:10:10,497\n這個部分因為我們原本的這個有關這個原額評鑑的重點裡面我們評鑑重點裡面原本有一個這個內部一級單位的這個業務盤點本來有提到業務數位資訊化的情形\n\n27\n00:10:23,991 --> 00:10:24,391\n主席主席\n\n28\n00:10:39,565 --> 00:11:07,634\n那這個我簡單講我整理一下我今天整個要求我希望人事總署能夠予以回應就是說第一個就是我們AI計畫這個整個新的這個AI計畫它的這個成效要定期的盤點可以嗎好定期盤點第二個就是把AI列入這個公務員的這個學習必修課程這個你剛剛答應了嘛4小時以內大概什麼時候會修改這個\n\n29\n00:11:16,838 --> 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辦理六班嗎\n426735\t426895\t沈發惠議員\n456818\t472981\t有這個行政院所屬機關有推動公務人員終身學習的實施要點也就是說我們公務人員有學習時數的要求對不對20秒鐘我看你們這個辦法裡面你們有一個行政院在112年12月26日有一個函就是說這20個小時裡面學習時數其中10個小時\n484884\t507130\t就是比較必修的啦齁你都20但是有10件事你要必修必修包括當前政府重要政策環境教育民主價值課程性別平等連政府服務倫理人權教育轉型正義行政中立多元族群公民參與我在你們網站上面看到這個也你們列出也全部都列出來了\n508325\t535808\t那我們AI有沒有可能納入?進那整個menu會把它納進來會把它納進這個10個小時之內變成必修課程我們現在還在檢討是加入這裡盡量就是來調整把AI會加在這10小時裡面加在這10小時裡面它會變成必修課程中的一個選擇一個選項這個部分就是說就是本席這個要特別在這裡\n537031\t537491\t接下来\n566394\t585815\t還有一個就是說我們是不是能夠將AI的公務人力納入這個我們的這個元額評鑑的重點我們按照這個從101年開始每辦理每兩年都辦理一次元額評鑑對不對我們現在是113年的元額評鑑所以我們下一次的元額評鑑計畫是115年開始的對不對\n589178\t605933\t有沒有可能把這個這個納入這個把AI的這個這個運用吼納入我們的這個言語評鑑也一定會因為我們今年113年已經有幾個場次我們就是請AI畫面領域的專家跟我們一起去做言語評鑑\n607514\t610497\t這個部分因為我們原本的這個有關這個原額評鑑的重點裡面我們評鑑重點裡面原本有一個這個內部一級單位的這個業務盤點本來有提到業務數位資訊化的情形\n623991\t624391\t主席主席\n639565\t667634\t那這個我簡單講我整理一下我今天整個要求我希望人事總署能夠予以回應就是說第一個就是我們AI計畫這個整個新的這個AI計畫它的這個成效要定期的盤點可以嗎好定期盤點第二個就是把AI列入這個公務員的這個學習必修課程這個你剛剛答應了嘛4小時以內大概什麼時候會修改這個\n676838\t688193\t第三個就是要這個把這個AI納入我剛所講的115年度的這個這個元額評鑑的計畫裡面應該要把AI納入好不好可以謝謝沈委員也謝謝蘇人事長\n","txt":"主席我們請人事長好請蘇人事長委員長委員長早安今天早上很多委員大家大概都針對這個有關\nAI的部分來跟我們這個這個人事總處來做溝通那事實上看起來現在這個因為我們這個賴總統的宣示還有我們這個行政院組委員長的一些這個上位計畫現在使得我們人事總處變成我們這個政府推動AI智能的這個提升的一個核心的單位對不對\n我跟委員報告那個主要人總在退的時候我們都有請數位發展部一起進來因為因為這樣政府的協同的腳步會一致因為這個有好幾個層次就政府政府本身尤其是公務人員對這是我們主體我們主責對你們的核心業務這個\n這個賴總統也多次他多次提到說這個現在齁要讓每一位每一位首長每一位公務人員大家都具備人工智慧的知能這是賴總統的目標\n我看這個我們卓院長他在520宣誓就職的時候他就宣誓說自己是行動AI創新內閣具體的在6月6號我們行政院就核定了一個提升行政院公務人員人工智慧資能實施計畫對不對\n提升行政院公務人員人工智慧知能實施計畫整個計畫大概有五大內容包括高階人才的AI共識營包括AI推動食物種子人員的課程\n包括公務人員AI通識課程另外還有公務機關運用AI工作坊以及這個公務機關AI應用成果競賽我看這整個大概這個人工智慧智能實施計畫大概就這五大工作重點其中有三個重點是我們人種的工作對不對\n有關這個公務機關運用AI工作坊跟這個公務機關AI應用成果計畫這個是競賽這個是屬於抒發部其他三個都是我們人總的業務對不對好所以我就\n因為這樣子所以我就來檢視說我們齁這三個我們人種的重要的工作在這個提升這個人工智慧智能實施計畫裡面我們人種的重要工作應該最重要工作就是三個目標啦齁就是就是高階人才的AI共識營跟這個AI推動食物種子人員課程跟這個公務人員AI的通識課程對不對這是這三個工作嘛齁那我們來一一檢視啦齁\n有關這個高階人才AI共識營我們現在辦過了首長部會首長的共識營對不對要辦過副首長的共識營接下來是要辦三級機關\n山崎機關首長今天下午要辦今天下午要辦今天下午好那這個辦理的目的那跟AI計畫他本身我這樣看這辦這個共識營很好但是有一個問題就是說這個看起來你們這個辦這個共識營你們沒有KPI你們沒有定說你們這個到底要達成什麼樣的核心目標我跟委員報告一下\n接下來好像你們還要辦科長級以上的總值人才認證班對不對你們大概估計的期程跟人數大概是多少\n我們今年會辦一起先來示範看,今年要看因為相關部會36個,每年辦6期我委員報告齁\n人事總署辦的是對教務單位找人來,然後數位發展部辦的是找資訊人員來辦,因為我們有分工,我們有分工,好,沒關係,你一期讓你示範看看啦,示範看看,但是我之前說課長中央部會這麼多課長,你辦第一期好像36個人,我是覺得太少啦,\n首長的公視營都轉播了,首長都要出席了你現在科長的部分,這麼多科長,36個人來參加而已這你們去考慮啦,要去建議啦再來,我們說的第2點有關AI實務總指援員課程的部分我在這裡大概要請教啦就是說你們這些課程我看了你們很多的計畫啦尤其是應用趨勢及實作課程的部分\n我看你們這個這個你們這些計畫你們有沒有納入這個機關自己辦的教育訓練這個部分是不是在納入你們計畫中各機關自辦的還是你們這個計畫只是你們自己辦的\n我跟委員報告我們有分兩個區塊人事總署辦的是屬於通案型的應用通案型的我賣出的是會議紀錄自動化啦還是相關法規還是大家補費都會用到我們偏向這一種共用型的那各個機關你想環境部也好他們就自己辦他們自己跟業務相關的我先問啦齁您應用趨勢及實作課程你們預計辦理多少場\n總處 運用趨勢及時做課程的部分我們是六班 辦理六班嗎\n沈發惠議員\n有這個行政院所屬機關有推動公務人員終身學習的實施要點也就是說我們公務人員有學習時數的要求對不對20秒鐘我看你們這個辦法裡面你們有一個行政院在112年12月26日有一個函就是說這20個小時裡面學習時數其中10個小時\n就是比較必修的啦齁你都20但是有10件事你要必修必修包括當前政府重要政策環境教育民主價值課程性別平等連政府服務倫理人權教育轉型正義行政中立多元族群公民參與我在你們網站上面看到這個也你們列出也全部都列出來了\n那我們AI有沒有可能納入?進那整個menu會把它納進來會把它納進這個10個小時之內變成必修課程我們現在還在檢討是加入這裡盡量就是來調整把AI會加在這10小時裡面加在這10小時裡面它會變成必修課程中的一個選擇一個選項這個部分就是說就是本席這個要特別在這裡\n接下来\n還有一個就是說我們是不是能夠將AI的公務人力納入這個我們的這個元額評鑑的重點我們按照這個從101年開始每辦理每兩年都辦理一次元額評鑑對不對我們現在是113年的元額評鑑所以我們下一次的元額評鑑計畫是115年開始的對不對\n有沒有可能把這個這個納入這個把AI的這個這個運用吼納入我們的這個言語評鑑也一定會因為我們今年113年已經有幾個場次我們就是請AI畫面領域的專家跟我們一起去做言語評鑑\n這個部分因為我們原本的這個有關這個原額評鑑的重點裡面我們評鑑重點裡面原本有一個這個內部一級單位的這個業務盤點本來有提到業務數位資訊化的情形\n主席主席\n那這個我簡單講我整理一下我今天整個要求我希望人事總署能夠予以回應就是說第一個就是我們AI計畫這個整個新的這個AI計畫它的這個成效要定期的盤點可以嗎好定期盤點第二個就是把AI列入這個公務員的這個學習必修課程這個你剛剛答應了嘛4小時以內大概什麼時候會修改這個\n第三個就是要這個把這個AI納入我剛所講的115年度的這個這個元額評鑑的計畫裡面應該要把AI納入好不好可以謝謝沈委員也謝謝蘇人事長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:17.191 --> 00:27.780\n主席我們請人事長好請蘇人事長委員長委員長早安今天早上很多委員大家大概都針對這個有關\n\n00:30.715 --> 00:57.160\nAI的部分來跟我們這個這個人事總處來做溝通那事實上看起來現在這個因為我們這個賴總統的宣示還有我們這個行政院組委員長的一些這個上位計畫現在使得我們人事總處變成我們這個政府推動AI智能的這個提升的一個核心的單位對不對\n\n00:58.719 --> 01:17.024\n我跟委員報告那個主要人總在退的時候我們都有請數位發展部一起進來因為因為這樣政府的協同的腳步會一致因為這個有好幾個層次就政府政府本身尤其是公務人員對這是我們主體我們主責對你們的核心業務這個\n\n01:23.538 --> 01:34.153\n這個賴總統也多次他多次提到說這個現在齁要讓每一位每一位首長每一位公務人員大家都具備人工智慧的知能這是賴總統的目標\n\n01:35.490 --> 01:54.159\n我看這個我們卓院長他在520宣誓就職的時候他就宣誓說自己是行動AI創新內閣具體的在6月6號我們行政院就核定了一個提升行政院公務人員人工智慧資能實施計畫對不對\n\n01:55.740 --> 02:03.142\n提升行政院公務人員人工智慧知能實施計畫整個計畫大概有五大內容包括高階人才的AI共識營包括AI推動食物種子人員的課程\n\n02:25.277 --> 02:47.518\n包括公務人員AI通識課程另外還有公務機關運用AI工作坊以及這個公務機關AI應用成果競賽我看這整個大概這個人工智慧智能實施計畫大概就這五大工作重點其中有三個重點是我們人種的工作對不對\n\n02:49.569 --> 02:55.512\n有關這個公務機關運用AI工作坊跟這個公務機關AI應用成果計畫這個是競賽這個是屬於抒發部其他三個都是我們人總的業務對不對好所以我就\n\n03:04.054 --> 03:32.580\n因為這樣子所以我就來檢視說我們齁這三個我們人種的重要的工作在這個提升這個人工智慧智能實施計畫裡面我們人種的重要工作應該最重要工作就是三個目標啦齁就是就是高階人才的AI共識營跟這個AI推動食物種子人員課程跟這個公務人員AI的通識課程對不對這是這三個工作嘛齁那我們來一一檢視啦齁\n\n03:35.727 --> 03:44.413\n有關這個高階人才AI共識營我們現在辦過了首長部會首長的共識營對不對要辦過副首長的共識營接下來是要辦三級機關\n\n03:53.072 --> 04:19.171\n山崎機關首長今天下午要辦今天下午要辦今天下午好那這個辦理的目的那跟AI計畫他本身我這樣看這辦這個共識營很好但是有一個問題就是說這個看起來你們這個辦這個共識營你們沒有KPI你們沒有定說你們這個到底要達成什麼樣的核心目標我跟委員報告一下\n\n04:20.694 --> 04:26.756\n接下來好像你們還要辦科長級以上的總值人才認證班對不對你們大概估計的期程跟人數大概是多少\n\n04:52.392 --> 04:59.760\n我們今年會辦一起先來示範看,今年要看因為相關部會36個,每年辦6期我委員報告齁\n\n05:07.549 --> 05:22.059\n人事總署辦的是對教務單位找人來,然後數位發展部辦的是找資訊人員來辦,因為我們有分工,我們有分工,好,沒關係,你一期讓你示範看看啦,示範看看,但是我之前說課長中央部會這麼多課長,你辦第一期好像36個人,我是覺得太少啦,\n\n05:33.107 --> 05:39.310\n首長的公視營都轉播了,首長都要出席了你現在科長的部分,這麼多科長,36個人來參加而已這你們去考慮啦,要去建議啦再來,我們說的第2點有關AI實務總指援員課程的部分我在這裡大概要請教啦就是說你們這些課程我看了你們很多的計畫啦尤其是應用趨勢及實作課程的部分\n\n06:02.571 --> 06:13.263\n我看你們這個這個你們這些計畫你們有沒有納入這個機關自己辦的教育訓練這個部分是不是在納入你們計畫中各機關自辦的還是你們這個計畫只是你們自己辦的\n\n06:17.233 --> 06:40.599\n我跟委員報告我們有分兩個區塊人事總署辦的是屬於通案型的應用通案型的我賣出的是會議紀錄自動化啦還是相關法規還是大家補費都會用到我們偏向這一種共用型的那各個機關你想環境部也好他們就自己辦他們自己跟業務相關的我先問啦齁您應用趨勢及實作課程你們預計辦理多少場\n\n06:48.663 --> 06:52.488\n總處運用趨勢及時做課程的部分我們是六班辦理六班嗎\n\n07:06.735 --> 07:06.895\n沈發惠議員\n\n07:36.818 --> 07:52.981\n有這個行政院所屬機關有推動公務人員終身學習的實施要點也就是說我們公務人員有學習時數的要求對不對20秒鐘我看你們這個辦法裡面你們有一個行政院在112年12月26日有一個函就是說這20個小時裡面學習時數其中10個小時\n\n08:04.884 --> 08:27.130\n就是比較必修的啦齁你都20但是有10件事你要必修必修包括當前政府重要政策環境教育民主價值課程性別平等連政府服務倫理人權教育轉型正義行政中立多元族群公民參與我在你們網站上面看到這個也你們列出也全部都列出來了\n\n08:28.325 --> 08:55.808\n那我們AI有沒有可能納入?進那整個menu會把它納進來會把它納進這個10個小時之內變成必修課程我們現在還在檢討是加入這裡盡量就是來調整把AI會加在這10小時裡面加在這10小時裡面它會變成必修課程中的一個選擇一個選項這個部分就是說就是本席這個要特別在這裡\n\n08:57.031 --> 08:57.491\n接下来\n\n09:26.394 --> 09:45.815\n還有一個就是說我們是不是能夠將AI的公務人力納入這個我們的這個元額評鑑的重點我們按照這個從101年開始每辦理每兩年都辦理一次元額評鑑對不對我們現在是113年的元額評鑑所以我們下一次的元額評鑑計畫是115年開始的對不對\n\n09:49.178 --> 10:05.933\n有沒有可能把這個這個納入這個把AI的這個這個運用吼納入我們的這個言語評鑑也一定會因為我們今年113年已經有幾個場次我們就是請AI畫面領域的專家跟我們一起去做言語評鑑\n\n10:07.514 --> 10:10.497\n這個部分因為我們原本的這個有關這個原額評鑑的重點裡面我們評鑑重點裡面原本有一個這個內部一級單位的這個業務盤點本來有提到業務數位資訊化的情形\n\n10:23.991 --> 10:24.391\n主席主席\n\n10:39.565 --> 11:07.634\n那這個我簡單講我整理一下我今天整個要求我希望人事總署能夠予以回應就是說第一個就是我們AI計畫這個整個新的這個AI計畫它的這個成效要定期的盤點可以嗎好定期盤點第二個就是把AI列入這個公務員的這個學習必修課程這個你剛剛答應了嘛4小時以內大概什麼時候會修改這個\n\n11:16.838 --> 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