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00:03:26,944\n市長\n\n10\n00:03:43,562 --> 00:04:10,209\n所以說不需要考試進來的都是在比較高階的部分政務派任的部分那個已經學有專精有專長我們國家目前是有這個制度本來就在推行所以有政務次長的派任甚至政務部長的派任以及行政院長的派任這都是國家的用人權那我們都尊重但是基層的聘約人員吶\n\n11\n00:04:12,059 --> 00:04:16,403\n可以3年認滿3年就有所謂的職稱職務這個人事長如果你覺得這樣也是合理嗎\n\n12\n00:04:25,016 --> 00:04:39,970\n業聘雇人員目前的規定是一年一聘那三年以後轉身分我倒是覺得這個大家可能沒有辦法接受啦好謝謝啊這個人事長終於講一句腰桿比較挺直的話\n\n13\n00:04:44,995 --> 00:05:13,964\n本期在這裡希望我們的口譯歌不要再現一天到晚都有口譯歌當時109年在推動這個品月人員人事條例就是要把所有的這些讓我們的國家所有的這些首長變成慣老闆我要用誰就用誰連基層的整個骨幹的體制都要來動搖所以以後只要奉承上意\n\n14\n00:05:14,889 --> 00:05:15,089\n委員會主席\n\n15\n00:05:38,391 --> 00:05:54,294\n我們經公教大藝審議委員會基本上我們參議的大概會中央機關還有地方機關還有一些專家協者進來我們只是提整個條新的一個參考讓行政院\n\n16\n00:05:54,874 --> 00:05:55,235\n勞工的這個部分\n\n17\n00:06:16,429 --> 00:06:18,991\n我想我們最低工資審議委員會都有納入基層的勞工的代表\n\n18\n00:06:45,831 --> 00:06:58,399\n對於軍公教員工待遇審議委員會目前一直都沒有繼承員工的這些代表是不是我們可以把他納入讓未來的考量能夠更周延更完整可以嗎\n\n19\n00:06:59,212 --> 00:07:19,492\n我非常支持總召會的想法事實上我們最近就是在研擬條帶的法制化這裏面有納入基層的公跟教法制化是非常的重要為了調新法制化是非常的重要國家的骨幹\n\n20\n00:07:24,827 --> 00:07:52,948\n這些軍公教人員撐起整個國家的所有的他的組織他的制度他的施行服務全國的鄉親未來這個整體的薪資調整本席建議以民生物價指數作為最主要的參考指標把它法制化以後我想未來條件就不再是一個恩給\n\n21\n00:07:56,124 --> 00:08:19,692\n執政者想要做就做,不想做就不做。這樣子既不公平也不公開,也沒有透明,都會黑箱。什麼時間到了,什麼正投稿,這個四年一任選舉到了,又開始開支票加薪等等。這個都不是國家之福,不管誰執政都是一樣。\n\n22\n00:08:20,932 --> 00:08:49,100\n所以本席認為應該要把它法制化以後時候到了就是調該調整就調整不要是變成一個大家可能講這個恩給制度啊這個黃恩浩蕩啊現在要調整了這個都是不應該的我想這個部分請這個人事長做一個參考另外當然本席會追蹤啦接下來就是這個六都跟非六都只等不同的問題\n\n23\n00:08:50,783 --> 00:09:18,062\n這一造成所有這些非六都的地方要如何留才如何留住人才啊固然有一個國家考試有一個綁六年啊還有綁三年或是六年但是呢在偏鄉地區啊往往就是啊我們培養了很多的公務員在這裡他學會了也懂了時間到了就走了\n\n24\n00:09:18,951 --> 00:09:19,471\n委員會主席\n\n25\n00:09:51,703 --> 00:09:58,237\n請問同職不同等同工不同從這樣子可以為偏鄉留住人才嗎請回答\n\n26\n00:09:59,206 --> 00:10:23,611\n我非常認同總召的看法事實上我們過去這幾年有跟情緒部組成工作圈我們在解決這個問題或許也不如總召想的一次把所有的都改可是我們是採一個區段一個區段像以前的縣政府的科長是八指等後來我們就調為八到九\n\n27\n00:10:24,271 --> 00:10:52,449\n讓他可以去參加檢任生人考讓他有機會升到副處長還有處長因為我覺得之前的設計有一些改善我們就是採區塊區塊來那剛才總召所提的六都跟會六都的這些職等事實上我們也是有納在工作圈裡面在討論有大概建議盡量讓地方的這些\n\n28\n00:10:53,809 --> 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謝謝啊這個人事長終於講一句腰桿比較挺直的話\n本期在這裡希望我們的口譯歌不要再現一天到晚都有口譯歌當時109年在推動這個品月人員人事條例就是要把所有的這些讓我們的國家所有的這些首長變成慣老闆我要用誰就用誰連基層的整個骨幹的體制都要來動搖所以以後只要奉承上意\n委員會主席\n我們經公教大藝審議委員會基本上我們參議的大概會中央機關還有地方機關還有一些專家協者進來我們只是提整個條新的一個參考讓行政院\n勞工的這個部分\n我想我們最低工資審議委員會都有納入基層的勞工的代表\n對於軍公教員工待遇審議委員會目前一直都沒有繼承員工的這些代表是不是我們可以把他納入讓未來的考量能夠更周延更完整可以嗎\n我非常支持總召會的想法事實上我們最近就是在研擬條帶的法制化這裏面有納入基層的公跟教法制化是非常的重要為了調新法制化是非常的重要國家的骨幹\n這些軍公教人員撐起整個國家的所有的他的組織他的制度他的施行服務全國的鄉親未來這個整體的薪資調整本席建議以民生物價指數作為最主要的參考指標把它法制化以後我想未來條件就不再是一個恩給\n執政者想要做就做,不想做就不做。這樣子既不公平也不公開,也沒有透明,都會黑箱。什麼時間到了,什麼正投稿,這個四年一任選舉到了,又開始開支票加薪等等。這個都不是國家之福,不管誰執政都是一樣。\n所以本席認為應該要把它法制化以後時候到了就是調該調整就調整不要是變成一個大家可能講這個恩給制度啊這個黃恩浩蕩啊現在要調整了這個都是不應該的我想這個部分請這個人事長做一個參考另外當然本席會追蹤啦接下來就是這個六都跟非六都只等不同的問題\n這一造成所有這些非六都的地方要如何留才如何留住人才啊固然有一個國家考試有一個綁六年啊還有綁三年或是六年但是呢在偏鄉地區啊往往就是啊我們培養了很多的公務員在這裡他學會了也懂了時間到了就走了\n委員會主席\n請問同職不同等 同工不同從 這樣子可以為偏鄉留住人才嗎 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