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00:00:44,937\n我想我們人事總處所掌管的政府的相關業務包括公部門的人力規劃培訓福利等等對於我們政府整體的施政效能以及公務員的工作條件密切相關尤其我們看到軍公教的待遇連續\n\n3\n00:00:46,398 --> 00:01:14,111\n兩年調整這也是我們人總來主導審議的這剛剛也聽我們人事長已經報告了那我們也期待明年度的總預算能夠盡早實質的來審查不要影響到公務員的權益當然我們人總要照顧的不只是軍公教還有整個公務體系的工作夥伴因此想針對這個測量助理待遇的調整問題來和我們人事長做一個探討\n\n4\n00:01:15,802 --> 00:01:45,306\n之前在本席的選區宜蘭縣有接獲到在地的這個測量助理團體來向我陳情那全國有2000多位的我們這個測量助理員他們的年功想多年來都沒有被調整過而且這個已經反映多年了那平常在進行外勤的工作的時候還得負重這個上山下海其實相當的辛苦我相信這我們人事長您也應該可以認同但是長期在\n\n5\n00:01:45,946 --> 00:02:09,270\n新資難以發展的這個環境已經嚴重打擊到測量助理員的這個工作士氣而我想這個案子這個我們人總這邊應該也研議了一段時間也經過相當多的這個單位諸多的討論我想請教人事長就是對於測量助理員的這個待遇調整目前推動的進度為何\n\n6\n00:02:10,792 --> 00:02:29,073\n我這裡跟委員報告一下那個內政部在今年的7月9號有函報行政院那按照我們的標準週月程序我們會會相關的機關不過這個案子我跟委員報告大概我們目標大概11月15號以前會把他簽出來那\n\n7\n00:02:30,274 --> 00:02:52,724\n當然目前的訴求是調2000到5000之間那至於調額多少我想我們會尊重相關機關大概我們也支持往上調至於調補多少我們要尊重相關機關的意見那整個時程我們希望10月15號今天9月30我們希望大概兩個禮拜左右要把這個案子給\n\n8\n00:02:56,076 --> 00:03:24,757\n那我們大概10月15號把這個案子把他final然後生肖日期一樣也會在明年的1月1號明年1號就是確定可以核定這個整個結果就對了對這兩的工作會的部分這兩工作會就是我們現在訴求是2000往上調嘛那調補多少我坦白講我我們現在還在收斂的階段那是不是\n\n9\n00:03:25,898 --> 00:03:53,650\n我們說真的這個人總沒有辦法來決定他final的條幅那人事長我想請教為什麼不針對這個年功享的部分來做調整年功享的部分我們有算過有一些年資比要漲的你年功享去變動的話反而他那幾年就沒有辦法領到年功後反而會造成他的實質收益實質守得會降低有跟他們溝通過\n\n10\n00:03:54,870 --> 00:04:24,590\n因為你年紀這麼大,你到年功奉的話你可以獎金有兩個月嘛,你打破那個年功賞的部分也只能往上,他本身他領的錢還會更少,這個有跟他們溝通過了,假如他們覺得這樣對他們來講會比較有保障,我覺得也是可以請內政部簽上來,我們事實上可以來協助。\n\n11\n00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:44,281\n好目前我們就是針對這個工作工作會的部分10月15號2000到5000還不確定那10月15號可以有一個Final的金額是多少然後生效日明年1月1號好那這個就請我們人事總署這邊能夠積極加速來辦理那我們也會持續來追蹤\n\n12\n00:04:48,624 --> 00:05:15,484\n我希望透過這個比較合理的待遇的調整能夠讓我們公部門留住人才也可以激勵我們相關這些測量助理員的一個工作士氣這個部分再拜託謝謝委員一直持續在關注這個議題我們會在下個月15號以前會把它簽出來我們就靜待好消息謝謝謝謝委員那另外就提到這個待遇提升的合理化\n\n13\n00:05:16,565 --> 00:05:31,719\n也是這個人種設定的重點施政策略之一那這邊我想就這個公務公教員工的這個地域家籍之籍的這個制度來救教我們人事長那對於公教人員\n\n14\n00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:33,680\n行政院各機關學校公教員工\n\n15\n00:05:50,430 --> 00:06:10,371\n第一家級合理化調整的方案至109年實施到今年也即將滿5年的這個實施期程那我想請教人事長合理化的方案執行情形是否有符合預期的這個效益那為何只有部分的地方政府願意採用合理化的這個方案\n\n16\n00:06:11,690 --> 00:06:25,142\n我想會議使用這個合理化方案基本上就是有些有城鄉落差,就是像你像屏東,然後恆春,事實上我們從屏南到屏北要兩點晚上嘛\n\n17\n00:06:26,743 --> 00:06:42,317\n有些像滿洲鄉有些比較偏僻的地方他們覺得用合理化方案會比較有幫助連澎湖澎湖他也是最近才加入合理化方案目前總共有8個縣市加入合理化方案\n\n18\n00:06:42,897 --> 00:07:02,258\n實際上這個也就是說在原有的第一佳級裡面我們給地方政府多一個選項就是傳統我們在定義的就是離車站或者公車站牌多遠還有那個海拔的高度還有離島我們會設定這一些然後給予不同的一個佳級\n\n19\n00:07:03,860 --> 00:07:20,788\n除了這個以外我們在意新興因為總是還要考慮到他整個財政規劃的問題因為除了中央補助以外當合理化方案施行到一個階段他本身地方政府的財政也要能夠來做cover\n\n20\n00:07:23,329 --> 00:07:40,294\n合理化方案實施已經5年的時間,我們是不是應該也要啟動檢討評估的機制,包括是否有降低流動率,成功留住人才,讓人才持續在地服務,也考慮到各縣市政府的財政狀況的不一樣。\n\n21\n00:07:42,975 --> 00:08:02,397\n我們也要有多面向的評估並且因為這個時空環境的因素合理化方案的內容也必須與時俱進的來做檢討那我想請教我們人事總處預計何時能夠邀集中央跟地方政府來\n\n22\n00:08:02,858 --> 00:08:03,980\n謝謝委員事實上我們在這個月的9月13號就已經召集相關\n\n23\n00:08:19,942 --> 00:08:20,603\n：陳俊宇\n\n24\n00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:44,401\n我還是希望我們人總能夠持續積極來辦理\n\n25\n00:09:01,370 --> 00:09:22,805\n讓加擠相關制度能夠更貼近真實的情況也讓我們到偏遠地區服務的這些公務人員都能夠獲得合理的待遇我相信這是大家所期待的另外我想再請教我們人事長就是在上個會期在第一週的時候我有針對這個五一\n\n26\n00:09:25,667 --> 00:09:36,362\n勞動節的部分是否可以來全國一致性的休假當時這個人事長您也非常這個樂意的來回應針對這個部分我們會進行相關的檢討那當時因為\n\n27\n00:09:41,868 --> 00:10:07,553\n這個時間非常緊迫我們期待在今年五一可以實施後來也這個落空沒有辦法這個如期來執行當然我們在期待是明年的五一是不是可以這個確定全國一致性的來放假那在我們人總所發送的這個行事曆的裡面看到五一還是黑字的所以我想請教\n\n28\n00:10:08,874 --> 00:10:14,548\n這個人事長對於明年五一勞動節我們目前規劃是不是可以全國一致性的放假\n\n29\n00:10:16,544 --> 00:10:39,298\n謝謝委員這個問題我想明年五一的這個放假的基本上他的前提應該在內政部他有一個假日及忌廉日實施辦法他要去修改那修改完以後再送過來我們再去更新他的前期是這樣那我想我們也一樣在等內政部的他們整體的一個評估考量\n\n30\n00:10:39,858 --> 00:10:45,357\n好那這個部分我們人事長您這邊我們人總沒辦法跟他有一個內部的溝通嗎?\n\n31\n00:10:46,738 --> 00:10:52,400\n因為聽起來普遍應該全國我們所有的這些勞工階級的這些民眾都是期待能夠統一無一就是放假所以我還是期待我們人事長可以跟內政部這邊表達我們這個意思\n\n32\n00:11:12,369 --> 00:11:21,474\n那當然我們也透過內政部的相關質詢來質詢內政部我希望說大家有一個共識共同來朝這個目標來前進可不可以\n\n33\n00:11:22,938 --> 00:11:48,087\n我事實上是完全因為這裡面會有兩個議題一個內政部的節日及節日實施辦法另外一個是在89年6月30號大宴做一個才是公務人員的一個請假的我們一年的假大概是115到116有一個附帶結議基本上我們現在就是一個是尊重大宴在89年6月30號的這個結議第二個就是內政部\n\n34\n00:11:52,729 --> 00:12:04,819\n當這兩個都已經解開了以後我覺得會有各種可以討論的空間好那這部分還是請我們人總這邊積極來溝通因為五一勞動節我還是強調五一勞動節當天沒有全國一致性放假會造成許多這個階層的這個混亂的情況你現在像孩子\n\n35\n00:12:15,287 --> 00:12:16,349\n主席陳俊宇\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n12602\t25510\t好 首先先敬祝我們主席健康平安 早日康復好 謝謝陳委員那我們有請我們人事長好 請人事長委員早 人事長早 人事長\n26621\t44937\t我想我們人事總處所掌管的政府的相關業務包括公部門的人力規劃培訓福利等等對於我們政府整體的施政效能以及公務員的工作條件密切相關尤其我們看到軍公教的待遇連續\n46398\t74111\t兩年調整這也是我們人總來主導審議的這剛剛也聽我們人事長已經報告了那我們也期待明年度的總預算能夠盡早實質的來審查不要影響到公務員的權益當然我們人總要照顧的不只是軍公教還有整個公務體系的工作夥伴因此想針對這個測量助理待遇的調整問題來和我們人事長做一個探討\n75802\t105306\t之前在本席的選區宜蘭縣有接獲到在地的這個測量助理團體來向我陳情那全國有2000多位的我們這個測量助理員他們的年功想多年來都沒有被調整過而且這個已經反映多年了那平常在進行外勤的工作的時候還得負重這個上山下海其實相當的辛苦我相信這我們人事長您也應該可以認同但是長期在\n105946\t129270\t新資難以發展的這個環境已經嚴重打擊到測量助理員的這個工作士氣而我想這個案子這個我們人總這邊應該也研議了一段時間也經過相當多的這個單位諸多的討論我想請教人事長就是對於測量助理員的這個待遇調整目前推動的進度為何\n130792\t149073\t我這裡跟委員報告一下那個內政部在今年的7月9號有函報行政院那按照我們的標準週月程序我們會會相關的機關不過這個案子我跟委員報告大概我們目標大概11月15號以前會把他簽出來那\n150274\t172724\t當然目前的訴求是調2000到5000之間那至於調額多少我想我們會尊重相關機關大概我們也支持往上調至於調補多少我們要尊重相關機關的意見那整個時程我們希望10月15號今天9月30我們希望大概兩個禮拜左右要把這個案子給\n176076\t204757\t那我們大概10月15號把這個案子把他final然後生肖日期一樣也會在明年的1月1號明年1號就是確定可以核定這個整個結果就對了對這兩的工作會的部分這兩工作會就是我們現在訴求是2000往上調嘛那調補多少我坦白講我我們現在還在收斂的階段那是不是\n205898\t233650\t我們說真的這個人總沒有辦法來決定他final的條幅那人事長我想請教為什麼不針對這個年功享的部分來做調整年功享的部分我們有算過有一些年資比要漲的你年功享去變動的話反而他那幾年就沒有辦法領到年功後反而會造成他的實質收益實質守得會降低有跟他們溝通過\n234870\t264590\t因為你年紀這麼大,你到年功奉的話你可以獎金有兩個月嘛,你打破那個年功賞的部分也只能往上,他本身他領的錢還會更少,這個有跟他們溝通過了,假如他們覺得這樣對他們來講會比較有保障,我覺得也是可以請內政部簽上來,我們事實上可以來協助。\n264810\t284281\t好目前我們就是針對這個工作工作會的部分10月15號2000到5000還不確定那10月15號可以有一個Final的金額是多少然後生效日明年1月1號好那這個就請我們人事總署這邊能夠積極加速來辦理那我們也會持續來追蹤\n288624\t315484\t我希望透過這個比較合理的待遇的調整能夠讓我們公部門留住人才也可以激勵我們相關這些測量助理員的一個工作士氣這個部分再拜託謝謝委員一直持續在關注這個議題我們會在下個月15號以前會把它簽出來我們就靜待好消息謝謝謝謝委員那另外就提到這個待遇提升的合理化\n316565\t331719\t也是這個人種設定的重點施政策略之一那這邊我想就這個公務公教員工的這個地域家籍之籍的這個制度來救教我們人事長那對於公教人員\n332399\t333680\t行政院各機關學校公教員工\n350430\t370371\t第一家級合理化調整的方案至109年實施到今年也即將滿5年的這個實施期程那我想請教人事長合理化的方案執行情形是否有符合預期的這個效益那為何只有部分的地方政府願意採用合理化的這個方案\n371690\t385142\t我想會議使用這個合理化方案基本上就是有些有城鄉落差,就是像你像屏東,然後恆春,事實上我們從屏南到屏北要兩點晚上嘛\n386743\t402317\t有些像滿洲鄉有些比較偏僻的地方他們覺得用合理化方案會比較有幫助連澎湖澎湖他也是最近才加入合理化方案目前總共有8個縣市加入合理化方案\n402897\t422258\t實際上這個也就是說在原有的第一佳級裡面我們給地方政府多一個選項就是傳統我們在定義的就是離車站或者公車站牌多遠還有那個海拔的高度還有離島我們會設定這一些然後給予不同的一個佳級\n423860\t440788\t除了這個以外我們在意新興因為總是還要考慮到他整個財政規劃的問題因為除了中央補助以外當合理化方案施行到一個階段他本身地方政府的財政也要能夠來做cover\n443329\t460294\t合理化方案實施已經5年的時間,我們是不是應該也要啟動檢討評估的機制,包括是否有降低流動率,成功留住人才,讓人才持續在地服務,也考慮到各縣市政府的財政狀況的不一樣。\n462975\t482397\t我們也要有多面向的評估並且因為這個時空環境的因素合理化方案的內容也必須與時俱進的來做檢討那我想請教我們人事總處預計何時能夠邀集中央跟地方政府來\n482858\t483980\t謝謝委員 事實上我們在這個月的9月13號就已經召集相關\n499942\t500603\t：陳俊宇\n523400\t524401\t我還是希望我們人總能夠持續積極來辦理\n541370\t562805\t讓加擠相關制度能夠更貼近真實的情況也讓我們到偏遠地區服務的這些公務人員都能夠獲得合理的待遇我相信這是大家所期待的另外我想再請教我們人事長就是在上個會期在第一週的時候我有針對這個五一\n565667\t576362\t勞動節的部分是否可以來全國一致性的休假當時這個人事長您也非常這個樂意的來回應針對這個部分我們會進行相關的檢討那當時因為\n581868\t607553\t這個時間非常緊迫我們期待在今年五一可以實施後來也這個落空沒有辦法這個如期來執行當然我們在期待是明年的五一是不是可以這個確定全國一致性的來放假那在我們人總所發送的這個行事曆的裡面看到五一還是黑字的所以我想請教\n608874\t614548\t這個人事長對於明年五一勞動節我們目前規劃是不是可以全國一致性的放假\n616544\t639298\t謝謝委員這個問題我想明年五一的這個放假的基本上他的前提應該在內政部他有一個假日及忌廉日實施辦法他要去修改那修改完以後再送過來我們再去更新他的前期是這樣那我想我們也一樣在等內政部的他們整體的一個評估考量\n639858\t645357\t好那這個部分我們人事長您這邊我們人總沒辦法跟他有一個內部的溝通嗎?\n646738\t652400\t因為聽起來普遍應該全國我們所有的這些勞工階級的這些民眾都是期待能夠統一無一就是放假所以我還是期待我們人事長可以跟內政部這邊表達我們這個意思\n672369\t681474\t那當然我們也透過內政部的相關質詢來質詢內政部我希望說大家有一個共識共同來朝這個目標來前進可不可以\n682938\t708087\t我事實上是完全因為這裡面會有兩個議題一個內政部的節日及節日實施辦法另外一個是在89年6月30號大宴做一個才是公務人員的一個請假的我們一年的假大概是115到116有一個附帶結議基本上我們現在就是一個是尊重大宴在89年6月30號的這個結議第二個就是內政部\n712729\t724819\t當這兩個都已經解開了以後我覺得會有各種可以討論的空間好那這部分還是請我們人總這邊積極來溝通因為五一勞動節我還是強調五一勞動節當天沒有全國一致性放假會造成許多這個階層的這個混亂的情況你現在像孩子\n735287\t736349\t主席陳俊宇\n","txt":"好 首先先敬祝我們主席健康平安 早日康復好 謝謝陳委員那我們有請我們人事長好 請人事長委員早 人事長早 人事長\n我想我們人事總處所掌管的政府的相關業務包括公部門的人力規劃培訓福利等等對於我們政府整體的施政效能以及公務員的工作條件密切相關尤其我們看到軍公教的待遇連續\n兩年調整這也是我們人總來主導審議的這剛剛也聽我們人事長已經報告了那我們也期待明年度的總預算能夠盡早實質的來審查不要影響到公務員的權益當然我們人總要照顧的不只是軍公教還有整個公務體系的工作夥伴因此想針對這個測量助理待遇的調整問題來和我們人事長做一個探討\n之前在本席的選區宜蘭縣有接獲到在地的這個測量助理團體來向我陳情那全國有2000多位的我們這個測量助理員他們的年功想多年來都沒有被調整過而且這個已經反映多年了那平常在進行外勤的工作的時候還得負重這個上山下海其實相當的辛苦我相信這我們人事長您也應該可以認同但是長期在\n新資難以發展的這個環境已經嚴重打擊到測量助理員的這個工作士氣而我想這個案子這個我們人總這邊應該也研議了一段時間也經過相當多的這個單位諸多的討論我想請教人事長就是對於測量助理員的這個待遇調整目前推動的進度為何\n我這裡跟委員報告一下那個內政部在今年的7月9號有函報行政院那按照我們的標準週月程序我們會會相關的機關不過這個案子我跟委員報告大概我們目標大概11月15號以前會把他簽出來那\n當然目前的訴求是調2000到5000之間那至於調額多少我想我們會尊重相關機關大概我們也支持往上調至於調補多少我們要尊重相關機關的意見那整個時程我們希望10月15號今天9月30我們希望大概兩個禮拜左右要把這個案子給\n那我們大概10月15號把這個案子把他final然後生肖日期一樣也會在明年的1月1號明年1號就是確定可以核定這個整個結果就對了對這兩的工作會的部分這兩工作會就是我們現在訴求是2000往上調嘛那調補多少我坦白講我我們現在還在收斂的階段那是不是\n我們說真的這個人總沒有辦法來決定他final的條幅那人事長我想請教為什麼不針對這個年功享的部分來做調整年功享的部分我們有算過有一些年資比要漲的你年功享去變動的話反而他那幾年就沒有辦法領到年功後反而會造成他的實質收益實質守得會降低有跟他們溝通過\n因為你年紀這麼大,你到年功奉的話你可以獎金有兩個月嘛,你打破那個年功賞的部分也只能往上,他本身他領的錢還會更少,這個有跟他們溝通過了,假如他們覺得這樣對他們來講會比較有保障,我覺得也是可以請內政部簽上來,我們事實上可以來協助。\n好目前我們就是針對這個工作工作會的部分10月15號2000到5000還不確定那10月15號可以有一個Final的金額是多少然後生效日明年1月1號好那這個就請我們人事總署這邊能夠積極加速來辦理那我們也會持續來追蹤\n我希望透過這個比較合理的待遇的調整能夠讓我們公部門留住人才也可以激勵我們相關這些測量助理員的一個工作士氣這個部分再拜託謝謝委員一直持續在關注這個議題我們會在下個月15號以前會把它簽出來我們就靜待好消息謝謝謝謝委員那另外就提到這個待遇提升的合理化\n也是這個人種設定的重點施政策略之一那這邊我想就這個公務公教員工的這個地域家籍之籍的這個制度來救教我們人事長那對於公教人員\n行政院各機關學校公教員工\n第一家級合理化調整的方案至109年實施到今年也即將滿5年的這個實施期程那我想請教人事長合理化的方案執行情形是否有符合預期的這個效益那為何只有部分的地方政府願意採用合理化的這個方案\n我想會議使用這個合理化方案基本上就是有些有城鄉落差,就是像你像屏東,然後恆春,事實上我們從屏南到屏北要兩點晚上嘛\n有些像滿洲鄉有些比較偏僻的地方他們覺得用合理化方案會比較有幫助連澎湖澎湖他也是最近才加入合理化方案目前總共有8個縣市加入合理化方案\n實際上這個也就是說在原有的第一佳級裡面我們給地方政府多一個選項就是傳統我們在定義的就是離車站或者公車站牌多遠還有那個海拔的高度還有離島我們會設定這一些然後給予不同的一個佳級\n除了這個以外我們在意新興因為總是還要考慮到他整個財政規劃的問題因為除了中央補助以外當合理化方案施行到一個階段他本身地方政府的財政也要能夠來做cover\n合理化方案實施已經5年的時間,我們是不是應該也要啟動檢討評估的機制,包括是否有降低流動率,成功留住人才,讓人才持續在地服務,也考慮到各縣市政府的財政狀況的不一樣。\n我們也要有多面向的評估並且因為這個時空環境的因素合理化方案的內容也必須與時俱進的來做檢討那我想請教我們人事總處預計何時能夠邀集中央跟地方政府來\n謝謝委員 事實上我們在這個月的9月13號就已經召集相關\n：陳俊宇\n我還是希望我們人總能夠持續積極來辦理\n讓加擠相關制度能夠更貼近真實的情況也讓我們到偏遠地區服務的這些公務人員都能夠獲得合理的待遇我相信這是大家所期待的另外我想再請教我們人事長就是在上個會期在第一週的時候我有針對這個五一\n勞動節的部分是否可以來全國一致性的休假當時這個人事長您也非常這個樂意的來回應針對這個部分我們會進行相關的檢討那當時因為\n這個時間非常緊迫我們期待在今年五一可以實施後來也這個落空沒有辦法這個如期來執行當然我們在期待是明年的五一是不是可以這個確定全國一致性的來放假那在我們人總所發送的這個行事曆的裡面看到五一還是黑字的所以我想請教\n這個人事長對於明年五一勞動節我們目前規劃是不是可以全國一致性的放假\n謝謝委員這個問題我想明年五一的這個放假的基本上他的前提應該在內政部他有一個假日及忌廉日實施辦法他要去修改那修改完以後再送過來我們再去更新他的前期是這樣那我想我們也一樣在等內政部的他們整體的一個評估考量\n好那這個部分我們人事長您這邊我們人總沒辦法跟他有一個內部的溝通嗎?\n因為聽起來普遍應該全國我們所有的這些勞工階級的這些民眾都是期待能夠統一無一就是放假所以我還是期待我們人事長可以跟內政部這邊表達我們這個意思\n那當然我們也透過內政部的相關質詢來質詢內政部我希望說大家有一個共識共同來朝這個目標來前進可不可以\n我事實上是完全因為這裡面會有兩個議題一個內政部的節日及節日實施辦法另外一個是在89年6月30號大宴做一個才是公務人員的一個請假的我們一年的假大概是115到116有一個附帶結議基本上我們現在就是一個是尊重大宴在89年6月30號的這個結議第二個就是內政部\n當這兩個都已經解開了以後我覺得會有各種可以討論的空間好那這部分還是請我們人總這邊積極來溝通因為五一勞動節我還是強調五一勞動節當天沒有全國一致性放假會造成許多這個階層的這個混亂的情況你現在像孩子\n主席陳俊宇\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:12.602 --> 00:25.510\n好首先先敬祝我們主席健康平安早日康復好謝謝陳委員那我們有請我們人事長好請人事長委員早人事長早人事長\n\n00:26.621 --> 00:44.937\n我想我們人事總處所掌管的政府的相關業務包括公部門的人力規劃培訓福利等等對於我們政府整體的施政效能以及公務員的工作條件密切相關尤其我們看到軍公教的待遇連續\n\n00:46.398 --> 01:14.111\n兩年調整這也是我們人總來主導審議的這剛剛也聽我們人事長已經報告了那我們也期待明年度的總預算能夠盡早實質的來審查不要影響到公務員的權益當然我們人總要照顧的不只是軍公教還有整個公務體系的工作夥伴因此想針對這個測量助理待遇的調整問題來和我們人事長做一個探討\n\n01:15.802 --> 01:45.306\n之前在本席的選區宜蘭縣有接獲到在地的這個測量助理團體來向我陳情那全國有2000多位的我們這個測量助理員他們的年功想多年來都沒有被調整過而且這個已經反映多年了那平常在進行外勤的工作的時候還得負重這個上山下海其實相當的辛苦我相信這我們人事長您也應該可以認同但是長期在\n\n01:45.946 --> 02:09.270\n新資難以發展的這個環境已經嚴重打擊到測量助理員的這個工作士氣而我想這個案子這個我們人總這邊應該也研議了一段時間也經過相當多的這個單位諸多的討論我想請教人事長就是對於測量助理員的這個待遇調整目前推動的進度為何\n\n02:10.792 --> 02:29.073\n我這裡跟委員報告一下那個內政部在今年的7月9號有函報行政院那按照我們的標準週月程序我們會會相關的機關不過這個案子我跟委員報告大概我們目標大概11月15號以前會把他簽出來那\n\n02:30.274 --> 02:52.724\n當然目前的訴求是調2000到5000之間那至於調額多少我想我們會尊重相關機關大概我們也支持往上調至於調補多少我們要尊重相關機關的意見那整個時程我們希望10月15號今天9月30我們希望大概兩個禮拜左右要把這個案子給\n\n02:56.076 --> 03:24.757\n那我們大概10月15號把這個案子把他final然後生肖日期一樣也會在明年的1月1號明年1號就是確定可以核定這個整個結果就對了對這兩的工作會的部分這兩工作會就是我們現在訴求是2000往上調嘛那調補多少我坦白講我我們現在還在收斂的階段那是不是\n\n03:25.898 --> 03:53.650\n我們說真的這個人總沒有辦法來決定他final的條幅那人事長我想請教為什麼不針對這個年功享的部分來做調整年功享的部分我們有算過有一些年資比要漲的你年功享去變動的話反而他那幾年就沒有辦法領到年功後反而會造成他的實質收益實質守得會降低有跟他們溝通過\n\n03:54.870 --> 04:24.590\n因為你年紀這麼大,你到年功奉的話你可以獎金有兩個月嘛,你打破那個年功賞的部分也只能往上,他本身他領的錢還會更少,這個有跟他們溝通過了,假如他們覺得這樣對他們來講會比較有保障,我覺得也是可以請內政部簽上來,我們事實上可以來協助。\n\n04:24.810 --> 04:44.281\n好目前我們就是針對這個工作工作會的部分10月15號2000到5000還不確定那10月15號可以有一個Final的金額是多少然後生效日明年1月1號好那這個就請我們人事總署這邊能夠積極加速來辦理那我們也會持續來追蹤\n\n04:48.624 --> 05:15.484\n我希望透過這個比較合理的待遇的調整能夠讓我們公部門留住人才也可以激勵我們相關這些測量助理員的一個工作士氣這個部分再拜託謝謝委員一直持續在關注這個議題我們會在下個月15號以前會把它簽出來我們就靜待好消息謝謝謝謝委員那另外就提到這個待遇提升的合理化\n\n05:16.565 --> 05:31.719\n也是這個人種設定的重點施政策略之一那這邊我想就這個公務公教員工的這個地域家籍之籍的這個制度來救教我們人事長那對於公教人員\n\n05:32.399 --> 05:33.680\n行政院各機關學校公教員工\n\n05:50.430 --> 06:10.371\n第一家級合理化調整的方案至109年實施到今年也即將滿5年的這個實施期程那我想請教人事長合理化的方案執行情形是否有符合預期的這個效益那為何只有部分的地方政府願意採用合理化的這個方案\n\n06:11.690 --> 06:25.142\n我想會議使用這個合理化方案基本上就是有些有城鄉落差,就是像你像屏東,然後恆春,事實上我們從屏南到屏北要兩點晚上嘛\n\n06:26.743 --> 06:42.317\n有些像滿洲鄉有些比較偏僻的地方他們覺得用合理化方案會比較有幫助連澎湖澎湖他也是最近才加入合理化方案目前總共有8個縣市加入合理化方案\n\n06:42.897 --> 07:02.258\n實際上這個也就是說在原有的第一佳級裡面我們給地方政府多一個選項就是傳統我們在定義的就是離車站或者公車站牌多遠還有那個海拔的高度還有離島我們會設定這一些然後給予不同的一個佳級\n\n07:03.860 --> 07:20.788\n除了這個以外我們在意新興因為總是還要考慮到他整個財政規劃的問題因為除了中央補助以外當合理化方案施行到一個階段他本身地方政府的財政也要能夠來做cover\n\n07:23.329 --> 07:40.294\n合理化方案實施已經5年的時間,我們是不是應該也要啟動檢討評估的機制,包括是否有降低流動率,成功留住人才,讓人才持續在地服務,也考慮到各縣市政府的財政狀況的不一樣。\n\n07:42.975 --> 08:02.397\n我們也要有多面向的評估並且因為這個時空環境的因素合理化方案的內容也必須與時俱進的來做檢討那我想請教我們人事總處預計何時能夠邀集中央跟地方政府來\n\n08:02.858 --> 08:03.980\n謝謝委員事實上我們在這個月的9月13號就已經召集相關\n\n08:19.942 --> 08:20.603\n：陳俊宇\n\n08:43.400 --> 08:44.401\n我還是希望我們人總能夠持續積極來辦理\n\n09:01.370 --> 09:22.805\n讓加擠相關制度能夠更貼近真實的情況也讓我們到偏遠地區服務的這些公務人員都能夠獲得合理的待遇我相信這是大家所期待的另外我想再請教我們人事長就是在上個會期在第一週的時候我有針對這個五一\n\n09:25.667 --> 09:36.362\n勞動節的部分是否可以來全國一致性的休假當時這個人事長您也非常這個樂意的來回應針對這個部分我們會進行相關的檢討那當時因為\n\n09:41.868 --> 10:07.553\n這個時間非常緊迫我們期待在今年五一可以實施後來也這個落空沒有辦法這個如期來執行當然我們在期待是明年的五一是不是可以這個確定全國一致性的來放假那在我們人總所發送的這個行事曆的裡面看到五一還是黑字的所以我想請教\n\n10:08.874 --> 10:14.548\n這個人事長對於明年五一勞動節我們目前規劃是不是可以全國一致性的放假\n\n10:16.544 --> 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