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00:02:38,082\n當時可能他們連一句英文都不會講可是他們就這樣拼出來但是當他們把成績拿回來之後創造我們台灣經濟的產值我們卻是在這關鍵的時刻在轉型的時候常常忘了他們\n\n8\n00:02:39,454 --> 00:03:07,167\n這就是我們現在在我們台南很多隱形產業他們的心聲所以我們要拜託當我們有這麼多量能剛剛所唸出來的所列舉出來的我們的經費有我們預算有可是我們要問的是給了我們台南多少給了我們台南的新創產業還有中小企業多少\n\n9\n00:03:08,779 --> 00:03:31,278\n這個還是我們要的所以拜託我們的主委還有我們的次長麻煩把我們臺南被扶植的新創產業還有中小企業一份資料給我辦公室好的委員我們會做那您剛才提的心聲我們也聽到了我想我們會做一系列的讓南部可以感受到我們政府的誠意跟努力起碼資訊要對腾\n\n10\n00:03:33,973 --> 00:03:59,482\n資訊的公開而且得到的第一手一定要大家是同一時間、同一個平台否則每一次當台南接到的時候永遠就是北部已經申請了、中部已經申請了等到我們要提出申請沒辦法因為我們的預算是有限的都是他們申請完\n\n11\n00:04:01,311 --> 00:04:17,583\n然後我們提出申請來不及了已經被申請一空這個是非常要不得的這個再拜託主委跟我們的次長那我要再請教我們的這個主委沙崙AI產業園區\n\n12\n00:04:20,533 --> 00:04:44,842\n這個部分其實我們知道現在在我們的沙崙我們結合了資安智慧科技研發大樓綠能科技示範場域中央研究院南部院區周邊半導體的S廊帶甚至還結合了南科管理局負責的嘉義橋頭屏東等等的園區智慧複合樓群可是\n\n13\n00:04:45,862 --> 00:05:08,575\n我們現在希望他能夠成為大南方的AI產業發展基地但是我們試問這個是結合國發會國發會是一開始的know-how可是現在丟出去的是由我們的國科會、經濟部、數位部對不對一開始know-how是我們\n\n14\n00:05:09,574 --> 00:05:30,729\n是的,我們進行規劃對,規劃是我們可是現在丟出去我們現在座落在國科、經濟、數位360億預計智慧、科技、大南方產業、生態推動方案整個360億那我要試問主委請問國科會跟經濟部跟數位部誰當leader?\n\n15\n00:05:38,453 --> 00:05:58,695\n誰當Leader來整合360億欸沒有Leader整合各自為政編列到各地方編列到各部會之後請問他的量能跟管控誰來組長主委你們有沒有思考到這一點\n\n16\n00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:26,261\n我覺得您提了一個很好的點我這邊我們會來針對這幾個大的開發案S兩代的大開發案我們可能會來考慮一下一個機制也許我們會定期集合各部會來做檢討主委那我們目前是研考會是我們的管考會有在做例行性的管理但是我想經營的績效管考跟平台之間互相的聯繫互相的整合對\n\n17\n00:06:27,122 --> 00:06:42,658\n其實一個重要的計畫重點是在整合不是各自為政如果各自為政做出來的會變世不像有這些預算但是沒有辦法發揮充分的效力\n\n18\n00:06:43,579 --> 00:07:02,298\n這是我們擔心的所以主委這個部分沙崙AI產業園區如何能夠擴展到智慧科技大南方產業生態系推動這是我們的重點也是我們的關鍵還有後壁蘭花園區也就是現在花卉產業創新園區這個都是我們的公建計畫\n\n19\n00:07:05,922 --> 00:07:29,241\n我們的工建計畫目前都還在由農業部現在行政院退回農業部請他救園區的人力因為有可能會有機關編制的調整所以這個部分都是我們在未來工建計畫非常重要的那速度呢、時間呢、進度呢這個是由誰在掌控\n\n20\n00:07:31,181 --> 00:07:58,311\n目前這個的話是要願送到我們國安會我們才會進行審核啦對啊已經審核啦但是審核之後現在又退回行政院行政院又退回農業部啊對沒錯就是您講的就是對於人力的部分是啊那誰在掌控這個時間點我們空有公建計畫結果每一次我們問進度的時候有!現在行政院有!現在退到農業部\n\n21\n00:07:59,631 --> 00:08:14,577\n重點是誰在追這個進度再來還有案內隱事隱成這個也是啊案內隱成也是啊我們現在計畫都很大重點是誰在追進度\n\n22\n00:08:16,889 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