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00:02:19,509\n所以現在在資訊爆炸的今天很多民眾收到的訊息都不知道是真的假的那尤其你看颱風天這幾天更是這是你們內政部警政署給我們的打詐儀表板上面這個受理數328件財損數2億4千多萬\n\n7\n00:02:25,794 --> 00:02:28,635\n新北市第一名、桃園市第二名、台中市第三名\n\n8\n00:02:49,715 --> 00:03:13,573\n臺風來,詐騙一樣,橫行下一頁那我們再來看,縣市比一比數字很嚇人這是照今年最新8月的一個資料那今年的8月份詐騙集團被查獲的第一名臺中市給臺中市警察局鼓鼓掌第一名查扣的不法得利\n\n9\n00:03:14,727 --> 00:03:28,635\n也是臺中市第一名那我現在就要請教一下我們副署長就你的解讀這個是我們臺中市警察局的警察很會辦案還是這個詐騙集團把臺中當作大本營\n\n10\n00:03:30,595 --> 00:03:58,030\n我想每一個縣市因為網路的犯罪他應該是不限於地區的但是我們公布的打詐的一版表對沒有錯我們公布的打詐一表版最主要的就是要讓全民知道說目前詐欺犯罪的概況是什麼然後類型是什麼所以以目前詐欺犯罪的這個概況以你的解讀臺中市是第一名\n\n11\n00:03:59,585 --> 00:04:25,494\n當然是發生的多這個破獲的就多了其實發生的多破獲的就多那我現在站在中央我要求警政署那是不是不分縣市那既然台中市第一名表示我們查獲的多那可能發生數就是多那可能詐騙集團也有可能把台中當作大本營那我們這個城市的\n\n12\n00:04:27,454 --> 00:04:53,746\n到底是要怎麼樣來解讀我覺得我身為台中市的市民我也是台中市的中央民意代表我對這個數字我是覺得一則以喜一則以憂啊副署長因為我們提供的那個發聲的數跟PO的數是就是提供給委員是正確的嘛而且這是你們現在發布在官方的數字我相信黑數還更多\n\n13\n00:04:56,481 --> 00:05:07,415\n因為我們現在那個刑事紀錄表都整合在一起了所以一發生報案就馬上在後台裡面就就陳述了副署長我只是希望包括我們副局長\n\n14\n00:05:09,335 --> 00:05:36,813\n既然呢你剛剛講的發聲數多、查獲數多那這個我就把它認為是正向的第一個我們呢也積極在查緝第二個我剛剛說一則以喜一則以憂憂的是那發聲數就相對的比較多那這個我們希望中央警政署是不是可以要求地方的警察局我們是不是可以再更加強查緝這個是沒有問題的我想我們打\n\n15\n00:05:37,093 --> 00:05:59,146\n主要讓我們台中市看起來好像是詐騙集團的基地一樣那以我們最近高檢署所發動三波的打詐的工作就是展現了一些成效出來是所以我希望成效更好因為台中旺志興切我們希望治安可以更好詐騙可以更少\n\n16\n00:06:00,086 --> 00:06:12,032\n甚至能夠不要有這樣子所謂的台中好像變成是詐騙集團的一個基地或大本營這樣子的稱號這個絕對不是我們想要的所以要拜託警政署好不好接下來來請我我現在請黃部長\n\n17\n00:06:15,154 --> 00:06:32,440\n剛剛那些詐騙其實很多人都知道手機訊息陌生來電詐騙好像在我們生活當中無所不在那透過這些網路的各平台那我這幾則數字其實也都是警政署給我們的我相信部長你也應該都知道\n\n18\n00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:54,097\n那所以我才會說我們現在打詐不管是幾點零從之前的1.0到現在1.5到2.0那我們行政院卓院長宣示呢經費預算我們要從打詐的預算13億要增加到73億這些其實對民眾來講都是數字那我們真正能做的民眾希望的是\n\n19\n00:06:55,134 --> 00:07:12,628\n要根除要越來越少我生活當中我不要再發生有這個手機的訊號啦或者是網路平台的這個假帳號啦假廣告等等所以我現在就問黃部長我們釋法也通過了那我們現在能做的是什麼\n\n20\n00:07:14,942 --> 00:07:37,193\n報告委員這個剛剛講就是釋法通過之後我們現在訂制法,司法會對我們管因為我們數發部管幾個平台包括Facebook、臉書或是Line或是Google或是TikTok那現在很多詐騙的確沒錯剛剛委員看到就是有列一個台灣期間兩億四千萬那一個其實那個裡面有兩億是投資詐騙\n\n21\n00:07:38,294 --> 00:08:00,615\n那投資詐騙裡面事實上絕大部分是經過像臉書方式來詐騙所以我們在臉書有在剛剛講不管是目前因為執法還沒通過所以我們是跟他喝咖啡不過喝咖啡已經看到效果就是說從我們一個月有八萬個所謂的投資詐騙的廣告下降到現在一個月大概是一萬四千個當然不是很理想\n\n22\n00:08:02,036 --> 00:08:08,861\n你剛剛說以前可能一個月有8萬多則的投資廣告的一個臨時的廣告8萬個投資詐騙廣告到現在9月看到14000個只有14000個\n\n23\n00:08:15,820 --> 00:08:40,850\n一萬四千個也有一萬四千多無限的可能性被詐騙的民眾但是就是說我們希望打詐中法通過之後因為實名制的關係我們這些納管之後希望能夠降到很低當然最好是零部長我現在就要講民眾不管你的執法規有沒有公告民眾是希望這個詐騙現在進行式的詐騙的手法能夠呢透過政府有效的工具能夠遏止所以怎麼防\n\n24\n00:08:43,251 --> 00:09:00,679\n我們現在有一個叫網路詐騙通報查詢網現在在9月30號有這個就是Beta版有提供給民眾做測試民眾也可以用這個工具來查你所看到訊息是不是詐騙訊息那用這種方式來讓民眾能夠試詐跟防詐所以工具我們會精進\n\n25\n00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:21,979\n那另外就是說我們在這個剛剛講就是跟平台業者的溝通跟下架速度會加速希望民眾剛剛講講因為我們很多詐騙尤其看很多金額高金額詐騙都是因為投資詐騙那投資詐騙我們這個是我們第一個要處理很多投資詐騙是從平台網路廣告平台進來沒有錯所以這個是我們納管的\n\n26\n00:09:22,099 --> 00:09:39,137\n下架要迅速第二個要教導民眾如何施詐那這個要跟平台共同來合作對不對那這個未來呢我們不管這個執法規的公告與否這個現在進行是我們就是現在就要再主詐希望能夠防止嘛對不對\n\n27\n00:09:39,798 --> 00:10:06,149\n那尤其呢假廣告假訊息可以攔截假帳號如何解決我覺得這個要變成是我們政府各機關要跟平台進一步的去假帳號如何杜絕那在設立帳號的前端平台可以用什麼樣的有效工具可以攔截出身份有問題的或者是重複的或者是惡意的一些帳號這些我相信\n\n28\n00:10:07,970 --> 00:10:25,008\n有部長我們是有這個技術工具可以去溝通的啊有法規我們就剛才講就是說這個納管裡面要求的就是要實名制啊就登廣告跟投資廣告跟出錢做廣告的人他必須要實名制那用實名制的結果就會杜絕這個講假假假名稱的假人民的\n\n29\n00:10:25,128 --> 00:10:49,899\n委員部長我必須要講說我們要快啊這個詐騙手法太多了剛剛有委員講嘛道高一尺磨高一丈嘛那我們呢像刑事警察局165有一個全民詐騙網友告訴大家有什麼資料可是但是日新月異有些的詐騙的手法已經不是在我們這個名列的這些項目裡面所以你知道嗎現在臉書裡面租屋網站剛開學\n\n30\n00:10:53,320 --> 00:11:20,536\n剛開學的這個之前啊看房付訂金訂金被騙我們很多的年輕人學生就是這樣被騙這是正在進行式而且呢是今年這幾年比較新的手法我用這個是來跟你講說詐騙的手法是越來越新而且不斷的在轉換那不斷的在轉換的情況之下我們如何從根源去把它阻斷我覺得這個是最重要的\n\n31\n00:11:20,796 --> 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所以我希望成效更好因為台中旺志興切我們希望治安可以更好詐騙可以更少\n甚至能夠不要有這樣子所謂的台中好像變成是詐騙集團的一個基地或大本營這樣子的稱號這個絕對不是我們想要的所以要拜託警政署好不好接下來來請我我現在請黃部長\n剛剛那些詐騙其實很多人都知道手機訊息陌生來電詐騙好像在我們生活當中無所不在那透過這些網路的各平台那我這幾則數字其實也都是警政署給我們的我相信部長你也應該都知道\n那所以我才會說我們現在打詐不管是幾點零從之前的1.0到現在1.5到2.0那我們行政院卓院長宣示呢經費預算我們要從打詐的預算13億要增加到73億這些其實對民眾來講都是數字那我們真正能做的民眾希望的是\n要根除要越來越少我生活當中我不要再發生有這個手機的訊號啦或者是網路平台的這個假帳號啦假廣告等等所以我現在就問黃部長我們釋法也通過了那我們現在能做的是什麼\n報告委員這個剛剛講就是釋法通過之後我們現在訂制法,司法會對我們管因為我們數發部管幾個平台包括Facebook、臉書或是Line或是Google或是TikTok那現在很多詐騙的確沒錯剛剛委員看到就是有列一個台灣期間兩億四千萬那一個其實那個裡面有兩億是投資詐騙\n那投資詐騙裡面事實上絕大部分是經過像臉書方式來詐騙所以我們在臉書有在剛剛講不管是目前因為執法還沒通過所以我們是跟他喝咖啡不過喝咖啡已經看到效果就是說從我們一個月有八萬個所謂的投資詐騙的廣告下降到現在一個月大概是一萬四千個當然不是很理想\n你剛剛說以前可能一個月有8萬多則的投資廣告的一個臨時的廣告8萬個投資詐騙廣告到現在9月看到14000個只有14000個\n一萬四千個也有一萬四千多無限的可能性被詐騙的民眾但是就是說我們希望打詐中法通過之後因為實名制的關係我們這些納管之後希望能夠降到很低當然最好是零部長我現在就要講民眾不管你的執法規有沒有公告民眾是希望這個詐騙現在進行式的詐騙的手法能夠呢透過政府有效的工具能夠遏止所以怎麼防\n我們現在有一個叫網路詐騙通報查詢網現在在9月30號有這個就是Beta版有提供給民眾做測試民眾也可以用這個工具來查你所看到訊息是不是詐騙訊息那用這種方式來讓民眾能夠試詐跟防詐所以工具我們會精進\n那另外就是說我們在這個剛剛講就是跟平台業者的溝通跟下架速度會加速希望民眾剛剛講講因為我們很多詐騙尤其看很多金額高金額詐騙都是因為投資詐騙那投資詐騙我們這個是我們第一個要處理很多投資詐騙是從平台網路廣告平台進來沒有錯所以這個是我們納管的\n下架要迅速第二個要教導民眾如何施詐那這個要跟平台共同來合作 對不對那這個未來呢我們不管這個執法規的公告與否這個現在進行是我們就是現在就要再主詐希望能夠防止嘛 對不對\n那尤其呢假廣告假訊息可以攔截假帳號如何解決我覺得這個要變成是我們政府各機關要跟平台進一步的去假帳號如何杜絕那在設立帳號的前端平台可以用什麼樣的有效工具可以攔截出身份有問題的或者是重複的或者是惡意的一些帳號這些我相信\n有部長我們是有這個技術工具可以去溝通的啊有法規我們就剛才講就是說這個納管裡面要求的就是要實名制啊就登廣告跟投資廣告跟出錢做廣告的人他必須要實名制那用實名制的結果就會杜絕這個講假假假名稱的假人民的\n委員部長我必須要講說我們要快啊這個詐騙手法太多了剛剛有委員講嘛道高一尺磨高一丈嘛那我們呢像刑事警察局165有一個全民詐騙網友告訴大家有什麼資料可是但是日新月異有些的詐騙的手法已經不是在我們這個名列的這些項目裡面所以你知道嗎現在臉書裡面租屋網站剛開學\n剛開學的這個之前啊看房付訂金訂金被騙我們很多的年輕人學生就是這樣被騙這是正在進行式而且呢是今年這幾年比較新的手法我用這個是來跟你講說詐騙的手法是越來越新而且不斷的在轉換那不斷的在轉換的情況之下我們如何從根源去把它阻斷我覺得這個是最重要的\n好 以上謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.406 --> 00:14.193\n謝謝主席,那我們是不是先請內政部警政署,請副署長跟刑事警察局的副局長嗎?好,李副署長跟副局長等一下再請那個我們數位發展部好,黃部長一起好了\n\n00:27.319 --> 00:54.773\n副處長還有副局長其實包括我們黃部長在這裡不管我們的打詐國家隊現在從修法到執法規的預告公告到未來的執行其實不管是1.0、1.5、2.0不管重點的是民眾要的是要一點就零零是什麼?要防詐而且要阻詐而且要破案\n\n00:55.954 --> 01:22.323\n我接下來剛剛李昆哲委員有講到這個現在最多臺灣在發生上的這個所謂壯庫的攻擊那駭客的事那其實最近上個月我看今天的新聞就講上個月高鐵就是這樣子高鐵就是駭客入侵有500多名的會員的點數被盜那像我自己本人在颱風天的時候那幾天\n\n01:24.203 --> 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