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\"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:04,949 --> 00:00:05,310\n陳駿季列席\n\n2\n00:00:17,566 --> 00:00:37,052\n首先本席想要來跟您關注是我們當今台灣教育遇到最大的困境也就是教師荒近年來在開學前我們總是看到許多學校在他的社群網站上來徵求要代理老師那也有許多在開學在即\n\n3\n00:00:38,933 --> 00:00:51,624\n此外,很多學校是代理老師沒有人報考的報導。除了代理老師的短缺,正式教師面臨人力荒的困境,我們必須正視。\n\n4\n00:00:54,306 --> 00:01:20,256\n有網友運用這個師資培育統計年表中的這個中等共同學校首登專長與任職的情況來計算每年新增的這個中等學校老師其中以國文科跟自然科學領域的科目來看每年新增的老師的數目越來越少我們觀看自然科來看如果各項的影響的條件不變從下降的趨勢來看\n\n5\n00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:41,169\n新寫的化學科老師在明年會歸零物理跟生物科也分別在2027跟2028年會歸零也就是說我們到時候的教育現場的人力開始吃老本\n\n6\n00:01:41,989 --> 00:01:56,783\n那當然我想我們不要把前景看成那麼悲觀可是我們總是要做最壞的來盤算那我想戲就為什麼這個新寫不願意投入教職的原因我想不外乎有幾個原因嘛第一個教職難考\n\n7\n00:01:58,644 --> 00:02:02,966\n二、年改造成退休年齡往後挪第三、學校開圈很少、行政業務很繁雜、薪資待遇不符合期待等\n\n8\n00:02:13,732 --> 00:02:29,489\n那我想我們原因一題再題其中一個就是所謂的行政減量跟我們的導師費跟終點費有做一些調整可是這些好像看起來沒有明顯受到一些改善對於教師荒\n\n9\n00:02:30,450 --> 00:02:40,936\n所以我首先想要請教部長我們到底有沒有統計大約什麼時候會沒有新寫教師投入我們教學現場你有想過怎麼樣應付這樣的狀況嗎?謝謝委員關心台灣的教育因為老師是不是能夠投入教育職場我想關心到台灣的教育品質包括我們人才的培育\n\n10\n00:03:00,228 --> 00:03:24,123\n我事實上進來以後我也跟我們師培師特別提醒因為從整個教育政策的一個介入在未來大概從120年、117年到120年到22年它可能還會有一個退休潮所以我們整個師資的培育怎麼樣形成一個有一些政策包含我們教師法\n\n11\n00:03:25,623 --> 00:03:50,419\n這個施普法禮兵30年禮兵他事實上就是一個世代我們怎麼樣去以時俱進我想確實現在的老師、地線上老師陳儒委員剛才所提的他面臨的少子化家長包括許多的教育品質的一個這一些提升當然老師所儘管他非常專業但是他所面臨的挑戰確實也是高的\n\n12\n00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:52,763\n邀請教育部部長鄭英耀、行政院主計總處、國家發展委員會列席\n\n13\n00:04:02,318 --> 00:04:30,181\n我們也常常在提醒說我們原來已經在減量但是地方政府有時候他總是也回應到地方家長跟各級的社會的一個期待也會加碼所以這裡邊我們一直在提醒中央怎麼跟地方去合作然後包含這個薪資的一個待遇怎麼樣給予一些適度的一些支持但是我想我們以目前來講整個這個施施的一些\n\n14\n00:04:31,442 --> 00:04:57,478\n他是一個儲備制我們的儲備還是有一定的一個量但是他確實因應因為這個產業結構上的一個改變以及教師的一個聲望我們一直也希望社會大眾能夠大家共同來支持我們的這些老師給他們一個更多的就是部長你要有方法是看要怎麼樣做一些培訓心血的方法\n\n15\n00:04:58,398 --> 00:05:21,068\n還有你也要面對說到底有哪幾個科目它是會像說我剛剛說的嘛化學是明年就會歸零那你物理跟生物都分別在兩三年後就會歸零就如果沒有新血進來的話那所以我的意思說你一定要面臨到這個是最嚴重的危機跟委員報告包含譬如說偏鄉我們許多代理老師我們內部也我要內部去檢討\n\n16\n00:05:23,689 --> 00:05:51,670\n就說我們如果這些偏鄉老師一定要星期六日來補修教育學問那是不可行的你怎麼用實體跟線上我想這個部分能夠克服這個不能讓他每個禮拜從山上趕下來或者偏鄉趕下來就說這個部分我們已經在整體的檢討包含因應世代交替上的一個施施我們怎麼樣有一些培育的一個制度\n\n17\n00:05:52,130 --> 00:06:05,975\n有一些更全面的宣討我們大概也跟委員報告大概我們這一個禮拜整個施培師也會跟我提出一個完整的報告就是說你要有一些方法來吸引更多人來加入施培的行列\n\n18\n00:06:07,395 --> 00:06:08,256\n邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席\n\n19\n00:06:24,389 --> 00:06:40,352\n我想部長你有在想方設法不過這個就是要趕快想方法然後具體來實施那我想另外就是要跟您提到今天的主題就是班班有鮮奶我想剛剛很多的委員都有提及那這個都是好意\n\n20\n00:06:40,812 --> 00:07:02,442\n就讓每週讓孩子可以喝到兩次的免費的國產鮮奶那這個好事可是問題是操作上那我想為什麼說它是好事我們看鄰近的國家就好他們像日本他們有營養午餐就是有牛奶可以喝那你可以看一些資料喔就是說一些數據告訴我們\n\n21\n00:07:03,582 --> 00:07:24,064\n一九五零年到一九九四年來比,日本十七歲的青少年的平均身高,男生跟女生分別長了九公分跟五公分。所以這項政策看起來對於孩子的這個不管是長高、身體的狀況確實是非常有大大的加分。而且\n\n22\n00:07:25,486 --> 00:07:25,666\n主席主席主席\n\n23\n00:07:47,402 --> 00:07:51,266\n教育部的能力一定會漸漸上軌道可是我覺得我們看了農業部的報告就是說有乳糖不耐症有些原因不能喝牛奶那我們學童就是可以選擇所謂的國產涵蓋豆漿可是現在還沒有完全採購\n\n24\n00:08:06,302 --> 00:08:20,004\n請教是說那到底什麼時候還可以完成採購?有把握嗎?剛剛有回答說是10月底那有把握在10月底就能完成採購可以供應孩子喝這個涵蓋的這個豆漿\n\n25\n00:08:22,223 --> 00:08:40,943\n謝謝委員關心,確實這是我們一直也這個請地方政府要來加速採購那另外呢,委員也點出了許多的一些問題,我們也會悉心的快速的請這項本來這個政策還沒有執行的迎寧縣、嘉義等等的許多縣市,他們實際\n\n26\n00:08:42,492 --> 00:09:04,509\n也一定會有冷鏈供應的這個保鮮的這些問題但是他們已經行事了有的已經有3、5年我相信他們的一個地方政府的一些經驗是值得我們政策上的參考我們也會快速請他們來做一些經驗的分享來作為政策調整所以涵蓋的豆漿10月底之前可以供應給孩子嗎?\n\n27\n00:09:07,805 --> 00:09:08,786\n這項政策如果逐步上軌道之後有計劃要擴大供應給\n\n28\n00:09:28,038 --> 00:09:33,800\n二、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席就:「中小學老舊校舍補強、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向。」\n\n29\n00:09:59,128 --> 00:10:11,604\n我想當務之急我們先把目前所面臨的挑戰先把它解決那至於是要向上或者向下能夠有加惠更多的這我想我們也可以對就是供應鏈因為我們有提供給國小的附幼嘛\n\n30\n00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:18,111\n二、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席就«班班有鮮奶整備及執行情形»進行專題\n\n31\n00:10:38,356 --> 00:10:39,577\n請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席\n\n32\n00:11:08,033 --> 00:11:08,797\n如果遇到這樣的狀況如何來確認有個那個完整的SOP\n\n33\n00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:40,897\n是,謝謝委員提醒那在日本實施這個學童營養午餐這麼多年還會發生這種事情我想這是一個對我們來講一個很好的警訊那目前其實在不管是在配送、發送或在驗收上面其實都有一定的標準那也謝謝委員提醒如果將來有發生這個雖然當然不希望發生但如果有發生的話一定會依照這個相關的規定來做,謝謝好,好,謝謝,謝謝部長,謝謝主席好,謝謝林應景委員\n\n34\n00:11:42,386 --> 00:11:42,708\n接下來我們請\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4949\t5310\t陳駿季列席\n17566\t37052\t首先本席想要來跟您關注是我們當今台灣教育遇到最大的困境也就是教師荒近年來在開學前我們總是看到許多學校在他的社群網站上來徵求要代理老師那也有許多在開學在即\n38933\t51624\t此外,很多學校是代理老師沒有人報考的報導。除了代理老師的短缺,正式教師面臨人力荒的困境,我們必須正視。\n54306\t80256\t有網友運用這個師資培育統計年表中的這個中等共同學校首登專長與任職的情況來計算每年新增的這個中等學校老師其中以國文科跟自然科學領域的科目來看每年新增的老師的數目越來越少我們觀看自然科來看如果各項的影響的條件不變從下降的趨勢來看\n85040\t101169\t新寫的化學科老師在明年會歸零物理跟生物科也分別在2027跟2028年會歸零也就是說我們到時候的教育現場的人力開始吃老本\n101989\t116783\t那當然我想我們不要把前景看成那麼悲觀可是我們總是要做最壞的來盤算那我想戲就為什麼這個新寫不願意投入教職的原因我想不外乎有幾個原因嘛第一個教職難考\n118644\t122966\t二、年改造成退休年齡往後挪第三、學校開圈很少、行政業務很繁雜、薪資待遇不符合期待等\n133732\t149489\t那我想我們原因一題再題其中一個就是所謂的行政減量跟我們的導師費跟終點費有做一些調整可是這些好像看起來沒有明顯受到一些改善對於教師荒\n150450\t160936\t所以我首先想要請教部長我們到底有沒有統計大約什麼時候會沒有新寫教師投入我們教學現場你有想過怎麼樣應付這樣的狀況嗎?謝謝委員關心台灣的教育因為老師是不是能夠投入教育職場我想關心到台灣的教育品質包括我們人才的培育\n180228\t204123\t我事實上進來以後我也跟我們師培師特別提醒因為從整個教育政策的一個介入在未來大概從120年、117年到120年到22年它可能還會有一個退休潮所以我們整個師資的培育怎麼樣形成一個有一些政策包含我們教師法\n205623\t230419\t這個施普法禮兵30年禮兵他事實上就是一個世代我們怎麼樣去以時俱進我想確實現在的老師、地線上老師陳儒委員剛才所提的他面臨的少子化家長包括許多的教育品質的一個這一些提升當然老師所儘管他非常專業但是他所面臨的挑戰確實也是高的\n230879\t232763\t邀請教育部部長鄭英耀、行政院主計總處、國家發展委員會列席\n242318\t270181\t我們也常常在提醒說我們原來已經在減量但是地方政府有時候他總是也回應到地方家長跟各級的社會的一個期待也會加碼所以這裡邊我們一直在提醒中央怎麼跟地方去合作然後包含這個薪資的一個待遇怎麼樣給予一些適度的一些支持但是我想我們以目前來講整個這個施施的一些\n271442\t297478\t他是一個儲備制我們的儲備還是有一定的一個量但是他確實因應因為這個產業結構上的一個改變以及教師的一個聲望我們一直也希望社會大眾能夠大家共同來支持我們的這些老師給他們一個更多的就是部長你要有方法是看要怎麼樣做一些培訓心血的方法\n298398\t321068\t還有你也要面對說到底有哪幾個科目它是會像說我剛剛說的嘛化學是明年就會歸零那你物理跟生物都分別在兩三年後就會歸零就如果沒有新血進來的話那所以我的意思說你一定要面臨到這個是最嚴重的危機跟委員報告包含譬如說偏鄉我們許多代理老師我們內部也我要內部去檢討\n323689\t351670\t就說我們如果這些偏鄉老師一定要星期六日來補修教育學問那是不可行的你怎麼用實體跟線上我想這個部分能夠克服這個不能讓他每個禮拜從山上趕下來或者偏鄉趕下來就說這個部分我們已經在整體的檢討包含因應世代交替上的一個施施我們怎麼樣有一些培育的一個制度\n352130\t365975\t有一些更全面的宣討我們大概也跟委員報告大概我們這一個禮拜整個施培師也會跟我提出一個完整的報告就是說你要有一些方法來吸引更多人來加入施培的行列\n367395\t368256\t邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席\n384389\t400352\t我想部長你有在想方設法不過這個就是要趕快想方法然後具體來實施那我想另外就是要跟您提到今天的主題就是班班有鮮奶我想剛剛很多的委員都有提及那這個都是好意\n400812\t422442\t就讓每週讓孩子可以喝到兩次的免費的國產鮮奶那這個好事可是問題是操作上那我想為什麼說它是好事我們看鄰近的國家就好他們像日本他們有營養午餐就是有牛奶可以喝那你可以看一些資料喔就是說一些數據告訴我們\n423582\t444064\t一九五零年到一九九四年來比,日本十七歲的青少年的平均身高,男生跟女生分別長了九公分跟五公分。所以這項政策看起來對於孩子的這個不管是長高、身體的狀況確實是非常有大大的加分。而且\n445486\t445666\t主席主席主席\n467402\t471266\t教育部的能力一定會漸漸上軌道可是我覺得我們看了農業部的報告就是說有乳糖不耐症有些原因不能喝牛奶那我們學童就是可以選擇所謂的國產涵蓋豆漿可是現在還沒有完全採購\n486302\t500004\t請教是說那到底什麼時候還可以完成採購?有把握嗎?剛剛有回答說是10月底那有把握在10月底就能完成採購可以供應孩子喝這個涵蓋的這個豆漿\n502223\t520943\t謝謝委員關心,確實這是我們一直也這個請地方政府要來加速採購那另外呢,委員也點出了許多的一些問題,我們也會悉心的快速的請這項本來這個政策還沒有執行的迎寧縣、嘉義等等的許多縣市,他們實際\n522492\t544509\t也一定會有冷鏈供應的這個保鮮的這些問題但是他們已經行事了有的已經有3、5年我相信他們的一個地方政府的一些經驗是值得我們政策上的參考我們也會快速請他們來做一些經驗的分享來作為政策調整所以涵蓋的豆漿10月底之前可以供應給孩子嗎?\n547805\t548786\t這項政策如果逐步上軌道之後有計劃要擴大供應給\n568038\t573800\t二、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席就:「中小學老舊校舍補強、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向。」\n599128\t611604\t我想當務之急我們先把目前所面臨的挑戰先把它解決那至於是要向上或者向下能夠有加惠更多的這我想我們也可以對就是供應鏈因為我們有提供給國小的附幼嘛\n615990\t618111\t二、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席就 «班班有鮮奶整備及執行情形»進行專題\n638356\t639577\t請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席\n668033\t668797\t如果遇到這樣的狀況如何來確認有個那個完整的SOP\n673190\t700897\t是,謝謝委員提醒那在日本實施這個學童營養午餐這麼多年還會發生這種事情我想這是一個對我們來講一個很好的警訊那目前其實在不管是在配送、發送或在驗收上面其實都有一定的標準那也謝謝委員提醒如果將來有發生這個雖然當然不希望發生但如果有發生的話一定會依照這個相關的規定來做,謝謝好,好,謝謝,謝謝部長,謝謝主席好,謝謝林應景委員\n702386\t702708\t接下來我們請\n","txt":"陳駿季列席\n首先本席想要來跟您關注是我們當今台灣教育遇到最大的困境也就是教師荒近年來在開學前我們總是看到許多學校在他的社群網站上來徵求要代理老師那也有許多在開學在即\n此外,很多學校是代理老師沒有人報考的報導。除了代理老師的短缺,正式教師面臨人力荒的困境,我們必須正視。\n有網友運用這個師資培育統計年表中的這個中等共同學校首登專長與任職的情況來計算每年新增的這個中等學校老師其中以國文科跟自然科學領域的科目來看每年新增的老師的數目越來越少我們觀看自然科來看如果各項的影響的條件不變從下降的趨勢來看\n新寫的化學科老師在明年會歸零物理跟生物科也分別在2027跟2028年會歸零也就是說我們到時候的教育現場的人力開始吃老本\n那當然我想我們不要把前景看成那麼悲觀可是我們總是要做最壞的來盤算那我想戲就為什麼這個新寫不願意投入教職的原因我想不外乎有幾個原因嘛第一個教職難考\n二、年改造成退休年齡往後挪第三、學校開圈很少、行政業務很繁雜、薪資待遇不符合期待等\n那我想我們原因一題再題其中一個就是所謂的行政減量跟我們的導師費跟終點費有做一些調整可是這些好像看起來沒有明顯受到一些改善對於教師荒\n所以我首先想要請教部長我們到底有沒有統計大約什麼時候會沒有新寫教師投入我們教學現場你有想過怎麼樣應付這樣的狀況嗎?謝謝委員關心台灣的教育因為老師是不是能夠投入教育職場我想關心到台灣的教育品質包括我們人才的培育\n我事實上進來以後我也跟我們師培師特別提醒因為從整個教育政策的一個介入在未來大概從120年、117年到120年到22年它可能還會有一個退休潮所以我們整個師資的培育怎麼樣形成一個有一些政策包含我們教師法\n這個施普法禮兵30年禮兵他事實上就是一個世代我們怎麼樣去以時俱進我想確實現在的老師、地線上老師陳儒委員剛才所提的他面臨的少子化家長包括許多的教育品質的一個這一些提升當然老師所儘管他非常專業但是他所面臨的挑戰確實也是高的\n邀請教育部部長鄭英耀、行政院主計總處、國家發展委員會列席\n我們也常常在提醒說我們原來已經在減量但是地方政府有時候他總是也回應到地方家長跟各級的社會的一個期待也會加碼所以這裡邊我們一直在提醒中央怎麼跟地方去合作然後包含這個薪資的一個待遇怎麼樣給予一些適度的一些支持但是我想我們以目前來講整個這個施施的一些\n他是一個儲備制我們的儲備還是有一定的一個量但是他確實因應因為這個產業結構上的一個改變以及教師的一個聲望我們一直也希望社會大眾能夠大家共同來支持我們的這些老師給他們一個更多的就是部長你要有方法是看要怎麼樣做一些培訓心血的方法\n還有你也要面對說到底有哪幾個科目它是會像說我剛剛說的嘛化學是明年就會歸零那你物理跟生物都分別在兩三年後就會歸零就如果沒有新血進來的話那所以我的意思說你一定要面臨到這個是最嚴重的危機跟委員報告包含譬如說偏鄉我們許多代理老師我們內部也我要內部去檢討\n就說我們如果這些偏鄉老師一定要星期六日來補修教育學問那是不可行的你怎麼用實體跟線上我想這個部分能夠克服這個不能讓他每個禮拜從山上趕下來或者偏鄉趕下來就說這個部分我們已經在整體的檢討包含因應世代交替上的一個施施我們怎麼樣有一些培育的一個制度\n有一些更全面的宣討我們大概也跟委員報告大概我們這一個禮拜整個施培師也會跟我提出一個完整的報告就是說你要有一些方法來吸引更多人來加入施培的行列\n邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席\n我想部長你有在想方設法不過這個就是要趕快想方法然後具體來實施那我想另外就是要跟您提到今天的主題就是班班有鮮奶我想剛剛很多的委員都有提及那這個都是好意\n就讓每週讓孩子可以喝到兩次的免費的國產鮮奶那這個好事可是問題是操作上那我想為什麼說它是好事我們看鄰近的國家就好他們像日本他們有營養午餐就是有牛奶可以喝那你可以看一些資料喔就是說一些數據告訴我們\n一九五零年到一九九四年來比,日本十七歲的青少年的平均身高,男生跟女生分別長了九公分跟五公分。所以這項政策看起來對於孩子的這個不管是長高、身體的狀況確實是非常有大大的加分。而且\n主席主席主席\n教育部的能力一定會漸漸上軌道可是我覺得我們看了農業部的報告就是說有乳糖不耐症有些原因不能喝牛奶那我們學童就是可以選擇所謂的國產涵蓋豆漿可是現在還沒有完全採購\n請教是說那到底什麼時候還可以完成採購?有把握嗎?剛剛有回答說是10月底那有把握在10月底就能完成採購可以供應孩子喝這個涵蓋的這個豆漿\n謝謝委員關心,確實這是我們一直也這個請地方政府要來加速採購那另外呢,委員也點出了許多的一些問題,我們也會悉心的快速的請這項本來這個政策還沒有執行的迎寧縣、嘉義等等的許多縣市,他們實際\n也一定會有冷鏈供應的這個保鮮的這些問題但是他們已經行事了有的已經有3、5年我相信他們的一個地方政府的一些經驗是值得我們政策上的參考我們也會快速請他們來做一些經驗的分享來作為政策調整所以涵蓋的豆漿10月底之前可以供應給孩子嗎?\n這項政策如果逐步上軌道之後有計劃要擴大供應給\n二、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席就:「中小學老舊校舍補強、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向、整建計畫執行成效及未來規劃方向。」\n我想當務之急我們先把目前所面臨的挑戰先把它解決那至於是要向上或者向下能夠有加惠更多的這我想我們也可以對就是供應鏈因為我們有提供給國小的附幼嘛\n二、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席就 «班班有鮮奶整備及執行情形»進行專題\n請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席\n如果遇到這樣的狀況如何來確認有個那個完整的SOP\n是,謝謝委員提醒那在日本實施這個學童營養午餐這麼多年還會發生這種事情我想這是一個對我們來講一個很好的警訊那目前其實在不管是在配送、發送或在驗收上面其實都有一定的標準那也謝謝委員提醒如果將來有發生這個雖然當然不希望發生但如果有發生的話一定會依照這個相關的規定來做,謝謝好,好,謝謝,謝謝部長,謝謝主席好,謝謝林應景委員\n接下來我們請\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.949 --> 00:05.310\n陳駿季列席\n\n00:17.566 --> 00:37.052\n首先本席想要來跟您關注是我們當今台灣教育遇到最大的困境也就是教師荒近年來在開學前我們總是看到許多學校在他的社群網站上來徵求要代理老師那也有許多在開學在即\n\n00:38.933 --> 00:51.624\n此外,很多學校是代理老師沒有人報考的報導。除了代理老師的短缺,正式教師面臨人力荒的困境,我們必須正視。\n\n00:54.306 --> 01:20.256\n有網友運用這個師資培育統計年表中的這個中等共同學校首登專長與任職的情況來計算每年新增的這個中等學校老師其中以國文科跟自然科學領域的科目來看每年新增的老師的數目越來越少我們觀看自然科來看如果各項的影響的條件不變從下降的趨勢來看\n\n01:25.040 --> 01:41.169\n新寫的化學科老師在明年會歸零物理跟生物科也分別在2027跟2028年會歸零也就是說我們到時候的教育現場的人力開始吃老本\n\n01:41.989 --> 01:56.783\n那當然我想我們不要把前景看成那麼悲觀可是我們總是要做最壞的來盤算那我想戲就為什麼這個新寫不願意投入教職的原因我想不外乎有幾個原因嘛第一個教職難考\n\n01:58.644 --> 02:02.966\n二、年改造成退休年齡往後挪第三、學校開圈很少、行政業務很繁雜、薪資待遇不符合期待等\n\n02:13.732 --> 02:29.489\n那我想我們原因一題再題其中一個就是所謂的行政減量跟我們的導師費跟終點費有做一些調整可是這些好像看起來沒有明顯受到一些改善對於教師荒\n\n02:30.450 --> 02:40.936\n所以我首先想要請教部長我們到底有沒有統計大約什麼時候會沒有新寫教師投入我們教學現場你有想過怎麼樣應付這樣的狀況嗎?謝謝委員關心台灣的教育因為老師是不是能夠投入教育職場我想關心到台灣的教育品質包括我們人才的培育\n\n03:00.228 --> 03:24.123\n我事實上進來以後我也跟我們師培師特別提醒因為從整個教育政策的一個介入在未來大概從120年、117年到120年到22年它可能還會有一個退休潮所以我們整個師資的培育怎麼樣形成一個有一些政策包含我們教師法\n\n03:25.623 --> 03:50.419\n這個施普法禮兵30年禮兵他事實上就是一個世代我們怎麼樣去以時俱進我想確實現在的老師、地線上老師陳儒委員剛才所提的他面臨的少子化家長包括許多的教育品質的一個這一些提升當然老師所儘管他非常專業但是他所面臨的挑戰確實也是高的\n\n03:50.879 --> 03:52.763\n邀請教育部部長鄭英耀、行政院主計總處、國家發展委員會列席\n\n04:02.318 --> 04:30.181\n我們也常常在提醒說我們原來已經在減量但是地方政府有時候他總是也回應到地方家長跟各級的社會的一個期待也會加碼所以這裡邊我們一直在提醒中央怎麼跟地方去合作然後包含這個薪資的一個待遇怎麼樣給予一些適度的一些支持但是我想我們以目前來講整個這個施施的一些\n\n04:31.442 --> 04:57.478\n他是一個儲備制我們的儲備還是有一定的一個量但是他確實因應因為這個產業結構上的一個改變以及教師的一個聲望我們一直也希望社會大眾能夠大家共同來支持我們的這些老師給他們一個更多的就是部長你要有方法是看要怎麼樣做一些培訓心血的方法\n\n04:58.398 --> 05:21.068\n還有你也要面對說到底有哪幾個科目它是會像說我剛剛說的嘛化學是明年就會歸零那你物理跟生物都分別在兩三年後就會歸零就如果沒有新血進來的話那所以我的意思說你一定要面臨到這個是最嚴重的危機跟委員報告包含譬如說偏鄉我們許多代理老師我們內部也我要內部去檢討\n\n05:23.689 --> 05:51.670\n就說我們如果這些偏鄉老師一定要星期六日來補修教育學問那是不可行的你怎麼用實體跟線上我想這個部分能夠克服這個不能讓他每個禮拜從山上趕下來或者偏鄉趕下來就說這個部分我們已經在整體的檢討包含因應世代交替上的一個施施我們怎麼樣有一些培育的一個制度\n\n05:52.130 --> 06:05.975\n有一些更全面的宣討我們大概也跟委員報告大概我們這一個禮拜整個施培師也會跟我提出一個完整的報告就是說你要有一些方法來吸引更多人來加入施培的行列\n\n06:07.395 --> 06:08.256\n邀請教育部部長鄭英耀及農業部長陳駿季列席\n\n06:24.389 --> 06:40.352\n我想部長你有在想方設法不過這個就是要趕快想方法然後具體來實施那我想另外就是要跟您提到今天的主題就是班班有鮮奶我想剛剛很多的委員都有提及那這個都是好意\n\n06:40.812 --> 07:02.442\n就讓每週讓孩子可以喝到兩次的免費的國產鮮奶那這個好事可是問題是操作上那我想為什麼說它是好事我們看鄰近的國家就好他們像日本他們有營養午餐就是有牛奶可以喝那你可以看一些資料喔就是說一些數據告訴我們\n\n07:03.582 --> 07:24.064\n一九五零年到一九九四年來比,日本十七歲的青少年的平均身高,男生跟女生分別長了九公分跟五公分。所以這項政策看起來對於孩子的這個不管是長高、身體的狀況確實是非常有大大的加分。而且\n\n07:25.486 --> 07:25.666\n主席主席主席\n\n07:47.402 --> 07:51.266\n教育部的能力一定會漸漸上軌道可是我覺得我們看了農業部的報告就是說有乳糖不耐症有些原因不能喝牛奶那我們學童就是可以選擇所謂的國產涵蓋豆漿可是現在還沒有完全採購\n\n08:06.302 --> 08:20.004\n請教是說那到底什麼時候還可以完成採購?有把握嗎?剛剛有回答說是10月底那有把握在10月底就能完成採購可以供應孩子喝這個涵蓋的這個豆漿\n\n08:22.223 --> 08:40.943\n謝謝委員關心,確實這是我們一直也這個請地方政府要來加速採購那另外呢,委員也點出了許多的一些問題,我們也會悉心的快速的請這項本來這個政策還沒有執行的迎寧縣、嘉義等等的許多縣市,他們實際\n\n08:42.492 --> 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