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00:02:24,614\n若遇到無法判死刑的案件則無期徒刑是否得以替代嚴懲重大犯罪所以我想就有關於終身監禁落實無期徒刑的部分來和部長做一個討論\n\n8\n00:02:26,556 --> 00:02:42,807\n那我們看到朝野各黨對於終身監禁不得假釋或是提高假釋的門檻都有提出類似的這個修法方向甚至已經有要求提出這個修法的版本來討論我們也了解到法務部這邊\n\n9\n00:02:43,887 --> 00:03:05,173\n在研議定定無期徒刑假釋門檻的這個層級化的規範那所以我想請教部長對於這個假釋門檻如何區分這個層級是否我們已經有了大致的一個構想那法務部的這個特殊無期徒刑是否就包含不得假釋的這個終身監禁\n\n10\n00:03:07,448 --> 00:03:24,805\n好謝謝委員那這個因應那個憲判字第8號的一個判決那我們法務部已經嚴理修正刑法77條我們在第二項有徵定我們這個草案就是故意殺人或殺人未遂竟判處無期徒刑或逾10年有期徒刑不得假釋\n\n11\n00:03:25,786 --> 00:03:49,754\n我們認為那個殺人跟殺人未遂這個是屬於社會最不容忍的一個嚴重的一個犯罪當然那所以我們認為這個是要排除那個假釋的一個適用因為這個矯字這個教化我們會花更多的一個時間所以我們認為這部分我們是認為是不能假釋這也是經過社會增益社會復輝的一個精神所以我們要推動修法\n\n12\n00:03:50,735 --> 00:04:12,814\n那我們這個修法我們是希望能夠當然是愈快愈好愈快愈好那倘若這個各黨團都提出了這個相關的修正版本那我們也希望說法務部的版本能夠一起來審查而對於這個無期徒刑假釋的這個配套其實也並非在這一次這個憲判\n\n13\n00:04:14,255 --> 00:04:31,190\n之後才開始討論所以希望我們法務部盡可能縮短這個研議的時間盡快把這個相關的修正的內容提出來那我想再請教部長就是說我們預計要多久的時間能夠將這個修法的版本送到國會來進行審查\n\n14\n00:04:33,011 --> 00:04:57,744\n這部分因為相關的那個修正我們會盡快提到行政院來有審查然後還要再會前那個司法院那我們希望司法院能夠多支持那我想我們就會很快速的來提出跟立法院來提出這個法案有沒有一個最短的時間提出我們是希望這個會期看看有沒有辦法我們努力看看\n\n15\n00:04:58,484 --> 00:05:04,708\n對於修法的方向不論是要延長監禁或是採取終身監禁不得假釋重點都是要提高我們犯罪者實質的這個服刑時間以達到嚇阻犯罪的效果但是\n\n16\n00:05:26,161 --> 00:05:44,380\n想在這個預證實務上可能會遇到的問題也應該一併納入這個討論所以我想若提高這個假設的門檻以我國當前這個監獄超收的情況是否有需要再增建這個監所\n\n17\n00:05:46,682 --> 00:05:58,061\n這個若有必要的話有需要的話我們會朝這邊去努力那現在目前監獄還是都有在增擴建那詳細的是不是我可以請那個教政署署長來待會回答\n\n18\n00:06:00,831 --> 00:06:18,209\n報告委員目前確實受容人數有微乎上升的趨勢那沿著上以北部地區的超額受容比較嚴重尤其臺北建議、臺北看守所還有桃園建議跟宜蘭建議但是我們本署\n\n19\n00:06:18,829 --> 00:06:35,336\n委員會第一先做機動調整宜間第二就是由北部移往南部為沿著另外我們部長剛剛有提到目前在北部地區八德外宜間大概在今年年底可以完成增加大概1400人\n\n20\n00:06:37,677 --> 00:06:39,718\n目前來看是不服使用就對了\n\n21\n00:06:58,687 --> 00:07:14,654\n目前我們會用機動調整一件隨時來應驗那由此可見我們少子化的情況然後這個犯罪的行為人越來越多才會導致這個監所不服使用應該是這樣子吧署長\n\n22\n00:07:14,974 --> 00:07:39,284\n跟委員報告因為我們現在比較注重收容人的人權所以以前是0.7坪現在我們一人一床變成是一人一坪所以實際上我們的在100年成立的時候我們的收容人是6萬6目前大概是5萬8而已但是因為一人一坪的關係我們會壓縮到空間使用空間的問題是是是會壓縮到\n\n23\n00:07:41,524 --> 00:07:52,711\n反之我想再請教部長就是說如果可能讓其他的重刑犯獲得提前假釋的機會反而會不會影響到這個社會的治安\n\n24\n00:07:54,215 --> 00:08:18,794\n我想在那個假釋的話要那個要何時來審核寬延並濟我們認為有教化成功當然我們就合乎假釋的門檻我們盡量就給他假釋出獄那如果說那個假釋的條件他那個整個教化成果不好那當然我們還要持續的我們就會重研審核尤其是重罪的重罪這一部分\n\n25\n00:08:23,060 --> 00:08:41,647\n當犯罪者的服刑時間越長,我們監獄可能就僅有發揮懲罰而已,完全就失去教化的功能,可能也會和我們當前預證的政策和矯正的目標會有所不同。\n\n26\n00:08:42,327 --> 00:09:03,339\n那我想再請教部長就是對於這個無望復歸社會的這個受刑人在這個監獄裡逐漸老化的過程中那我們監所在管理上是否仍然一視同仁或是會採取個別化的這個矯正規劃我想這個矯正的這個執行面的是不是我請那個矯正署長來拍攝\n\n27\n00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:33,639\n報告委員我們會加強老人次裝科的門診我們現在跟監所跟鄰近的醫療院所都合作包括老人門診那我們也有包括老年受刑人要多照顧的政策所以在去年年底我們有到日本去觀察他們的主義我們也會作為所謂的指引手冊我們都做出來了將來我們會對這個部分特別留意\n\n28\n00:09:34,864 --> 00:09:57,721\n對於這個比較老年的這個受刑人會特別留意那我想在精進相關的這個法令的這個同時預證系統的改革也應該要一併來檢討那以提高我們自由行的長度來作為這個嚴厲刑法是社會較有共識的一個修法方向\n\n29\n00:09:58,542 --> 00:10:12,758\n那但在這個預證資源長期的匱乏情況之下以及這介護人力的不足也是我們後端急需要改進的一個相關配套那在這個部分我想未來如果有機會的時候\n\n30\n00:10:13,699 --> 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謝謝委員那這個因應那個憲判字第8號的一個判決那我們法務部已經嚴理修正刑法77條我們在第二項有徵定我們這個草案就是故意殺人或殺人未遂竟判處無期徒刑或逾10年有期徒刑不得假釋\n205786\t229754\t我們認為那個殺人跟殺人未遂這個是屬於社會最不容忍的一個嚴重的一個犯罪當然那所以我們認為這個是要排除那個假釋的一個適用因為這個矯字這個教化我們會花更多的一個時間所以我們認為這部分我們是認為是不能假釋這也是經過社會增益社會復輝的一個精神所以我們要推動修法\n230735\t252814\t那我們這個修法我們是希望能夠當然是愈快愈好愈快愈好那倘若這個各黨團都提出了這個相關的修正版本那我們也希望說法務部的版本能夠一起來審查而對於這個無期徒刑假釋的這個配套其實也並非在這一次這個憲判\n254255\t271190\t之後才開始討論所以希望我們法務部盡可能縮短這個研議的時間盡快把這個相關的修正的內容提出來那我想再請教部長就是說我們預計要多久的時間能夠將這個修法的版本送到國會來進行審查\n273011\t297744\t這部分因為相關的那個修正我們會盡快提到行政院來有審查然後還要再會前那個司法院那我們希望司法院能夠多支持那我想我們就會很快速的來提出跟立法院來提出這個法案有沒有一個最短的時間提出我們是希望這個會期看看有沒有辦法我們努力看看\n298484\t304708\t對於修法的方向不論是要延長監禁或是採取終身監禁不得假釋重點都是要提高我們犯罪者實質的這個服刑時間以達到嚇阻犯罪的效果但是\n326161\t344380\t想在這個預證實務上可能會遇到的問題也應該一併納入這個討論所以我想若提高這個假設的門檻以我國當前這個監獄超收的情況是否有需要再增建這個監所\n346682\t358061\t這個若有必要的話有需要的話我們會朝這邊去努力那現在目前監獄還是都有在增擴建那詳細的是不是我可以請那個教政署署長來待會回答\n360831\t378209\t報告委員目前確實受容人數有微乎上升的趨勢那沿著上以北部地區的超額受容比較嚴重尤其臺北建議、臺北看守所還有桃園建議跟宜蘭建議但是我們本署\n378829\t395336\t委員會第一先做機動調整宜間第二就是由北部移往南部為沿著另外我們部長剛剛有提到目前在北部地區八德外宜間大概在今年年底可以完成增加大概1400人\n397677\t399718\t目前來看是不服使用就對了\n418687\t434654\t目前我們會用機動調整一件隨時來應驗那由此可見我們少子化的情況然後這個犯罪的行為人越來越多才會導致這個監所不服使用應該是這樣子吧 署長\n434974\t459284\t跟委員報告因為我們現在比較注重收容人的人權所以以前是0.7坪現在我們一人一床變成是一人一坪所以實際上我們的在100年成立的時候我們的收容人是6萬6目前大概是5萬8而已但是因為一人一坪的關係我們會壓縮到空間使用空間的問題是是是會壓縮到\n461524\t472711\t反之我想再請教部長就是說如果可能讓其他的重刑犯獲得提前假釋的機會反而會不會影響到這個社會的治安\n474215\t498794\t我想在那個假釋的話要那個要何時來審核寬延並濟我們認為有教化成功當然我們就合乎假釋的門檻我們盡量就給他假釋出獄那如果說那個假釋的條件他那個整個教化成果不好那當然我們還要持續的我們就會重研審核尤其是重罪的重罪這一部分\n503060\t521647\t當犯罪者的服刑時間越長,我們監獄可能就僅有發揮懲罰而已,完全就失去教化的功能,可能也會和我們當前預證的政策和矯正的目標會有所不同。\n522327\t543339\t那我想再請教部長就是對於這個無望復歸社會的這個受刑人在這個監獄裡逐漸老化的過程中那我們監所在管理上是否仍然一視同仁或是會採取個別化的這個矯正規劃我想這個矯正的這個執行面的是不是我請那個矯正署長來拍攝\n545680\t573639\t報告委員 我們會加強老人次裝科的門診我們現在跟監所跟鄰近的醫療院所都合作包括老人門診那我們也有包括老年受刑人要多照顧的政策所以在去年年底我們有到日本去觀察他們的主義我們也會作為所謂的指引手冊我們都做出來了將來我們會對這個部分特別留意\n574864\t597721\t對於這個比較老年的這個受刑人會特別留意那我想在精進相關的這個法令的這個同時預證系統的改革也應該要一併來檢討那以提高我們自由行的長度來作為這個嚴厲刑法是社會較有共識的一個修法方向\n598542\t612758\t那但在這個預證資源長期的匱乏情況之下以及這介護人力的不足也是我們後端急需要改進的一個相關配套那在這個部分我想未來如果有機會的時候\n613699\t642486\t再和部長來做一個強加討論是不是部長要簡單再說明一下謝謝委員的一個指導我想這個最重要的這些殺人的這些的我想我們即使沒有判死刑我們判無期徒刑我想我們會以目前我們會重演來審核重演審核我想這也是必須要教化成功才有進入到社區裡面那我們這是社會安全法的一方那這邊我們會注意到這部分的處理\n643226\t658380\t好那這部分再請我們法務部跟相關單位包括我們司法院能夠這個盡力來協助讓我們所有的民眾得以有一個比較好的一個這個生命財產安全的一個保障好以上好謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席 我們有請鄭部長好 麻煩部長好 部長午安\n委員好部長我們今天就這個113年憲判字第8號判決的內容那對於死刑和憲刑的這個解釋來檢討如何完備程序那和相關的這個法令的修正那符合我們憲法法庭判決的這個意旨死刑的這個議題長年來都是有正反雙方的一個論辯但它從來都不是二元的一個是非題\n而是對於維護社會秩序和人權保障之間那更加多面向的思考和評估也看到我們這次憲判的重點並非在死刑存廢與否而是要讓審判的程序更加的嚴謹大法官也考慮到我們歷史社會發展的一個脈絡以及多數人民的\n被害人．\n我們也可以為他來伸張正義因此未來在配套的修法上我們也必須多考慮到被害者的心情及立場司法體系也應該要有積極的作為來回應民意以鞏固我們民眾對於司法的信任\n我們看到這個憲判對於判處死刑的要件適用於個案犯罪情節屬最嚴重且這個刑事的程序符合憲法最嚴密的正當法律程序的要求的情形\n若遇到無法判死刑的案件則無期徒刑是否得以替代嚴懲重大犯罪所以我想就有關於終身監禁落實無期徒刑的部分來和部長做一個討論\n那我們看到朝野各黨對於終身監禁不得假釋或是提高假釋的門檻都有提出類似的這個修法方向甚至已經有要求提出這個修法的版本來討論我們也了解到法務部這邊\n在研議定定無期徒刑假釋門檻的這個層級化的規範那所以我想請教部長對於這個假釋門檻如何區分這個層級是否我們已經有了大致的一個構想那法務部的這個特殊無期徒刑是否就包含不得假釋的這個終身監禁\n好 謝謝委員那這個因應那個憲判字第8號的一個判決那我們法務部已經嚴理修正刑法77條我們在第二項有徵定我們這個草案就是故意殺人或殺人未遂竟判處無期徒刑或逾10年有期徒刑不得假釋\n我們認為那個殺人跟殺人未遂這個是屬於社會最不容忍的一個嚴重的一個犯罪當然那所以我們認為這個是要排除那個假釋的一個適用因為這個矯字這個教化我們會花更多的一個時間所以我們認為這部分我們是認為是不能假釋這也是經過社會增益社會復輝的一個精神所以我們要推動修法\n那我們這個修法我們是希望能夠當然是愈快愈好愈快愈好那倘若這個各黨團都提出了這個相關的修正版本那我們也希望說法務部的版本能夠一起來審查而對於這個無期徒刑假釋的這個配套其實也並非在這一次這個憲判\n之後才開始討論所以希望我們法務部盡可能縮短這個研議的時間盡快把這個相關的修正的內容提出來那我想再請教部長就是說我們預計要多久的時間能夠將這個修法的版本送到國會來進行審查\n這部分因為相關的那個修正我們會盡快提到行政院來有審查然後還要再會前那個司法院那我們希望司法院能夠多支持那我想我們就會很快速的來提出跟立法院來提出這個法案有沒有一個最短的時間提出我們是希望這個會期看看有沒有辦法我們努力看看\n對於修法的方向不論是要延長監禁或是採取終身監禁不得假釋重點都是要提高我們犯罪者實質的這個服刑時間以達到嚇阻犯罪的效果但是\n想在這個預證實務上可能會遇到的問題也應該一併納入這個討論所以我想若提高這個假設的門檻以我國當前這個監獄超收的情況是否有需要再增建這個監所\n這個若有必要的話有需要的話我們會朝這邊去努力那現在目前監獄還是都有在增擴建那詳細的是不是我可以請那個教政署署長來待會回答\n報告委員目前確實受容人數有微乎上升的趨勢那沿著上以北部地區的超額受容比較嚴重尤其臺北建議、臺北看守所還有桃園建議跟宜蘭建議但是我們本署\n委員會第一先做機動調整宜間第二就是由北部移往南部為沿著另外我們部長剛剛有提到目前在北部地區八德外宜間大概在今年年底可以完成增加大概1400人\n目前來看是不服使用就對了\n目前我們會用機動調整一件隨時來應驗那由此可見我們少子化的情況然後這個犯罪的行為人越來越多才會導致這個監所不服使用應該是這樣子吧 署長\n跟委員報告因為我們現在比較注重收容人的人權所以以前是0.7坪現在我們一人一床變成是一人一坪所以實際上我們的在100年成立的時候我們的收容人是6萬6目前大概是5萬8而已但是因為一人一坪的關係我們會壓縮到空間使用空間的問題是是是會壓縮到\n反之我想再請教部長就是說如果可能讓其他的重刑犯獲得提前假釋的機會反而會不會影響到這個社會的治安\n我想在那個假釋的話要那個要何時來審核寬延並濟我們認為有教化成功當然我們就合乎假釋的門檻我們盡量就給他假釋出獄那如果說那個假釋的條件他那個整個教化成果不好那當然我們還要持續的我們就會重研審核尤其是重罪的重罪這一部分\n當犯罪者的服刑時間越長,我們監獄可能就僅有發揮懲罰而已,完全就失去教化的功能,可能也會和我們當前預證的政策和矯正的目標會有所不同。\n那我想再請教部長就是對於這個無望復歸社會的這個受刑人在這個監獄裡逐漸老化的過程中那我們監所在管理上是否仍然一視同仁或是會採取個別化的這個矯正規劃我想這個矯正的這個執行面的是不是我請那個矯正署長來拍攝\n報告委員 我們會加強老人次裝科的門診我們現在跟監所跟鄰近的醫療院所都合作包括老人門診那我們也有包括老年受刑人要多照顧的政策所以在去年年底我們有到日本去觀察他們的主義我們也會作為所謂的指引手冊我們都做出來了將來我們會對這個部分特別留意\n對於這個比較老年的這個受刑人會特別留意那我想在精進相關的這個法令的這個同時預證系統的改革也應該要一併來檢討那以提高我們自由行的長度來作為這個嚴厲刑法是社會較有共識的一個修法方向\n那但在這個預證資源長期的匱乏情況之下以及這介護人力的不足也是我們後端急需要改進的一個相關配套那在這個部分我想未來如果有機會的時候\n再和部長來做一個強加討論是不是部長要簡單再說明一下謝謝委員的一個指導我想這個最重要的這些殺人的這些的我想我們即使沒有判死刑我們判無期徒刑我想我們會以目前我們會重演來審核重演審核我想這也是必須要教化成功才有進入到社區裡面那我們這是社會安全法的一方那這邊我們會注意到這部分的處理\n好那這部分再請我們法務部跟相關單位包括我們司法院能夠這個盡力來協助讓我們所有的民眾得以有一個比較好的一個這個生命財產安全的一個保障好以上好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.329 --> 00:15.748\n好謝謝主席我們有請鄭部長好麻煩部長好部長午安\n\n00:17.864 --> 00:46.424\n委員好部長我們今天就這個113年憲判字第8號判決的內容那對於死刑和憲刑的這個解釋來檢討如何完備程序那和相關的這個法令的修正那符合我們憲法法庭判決的這個意旨死刑的這個議題長年來都是有正反雙方的一個論辯但它從來都不是二元的一個是非題\n\n00:47.365 --> 01:12.080\n而是對於維護社會秩序和人權保障之間那更加多面向的思考和評估也看到我們這次憲判的重點並非在死刑存廢與否而是要讓審判的程序更加的嚴謹大法官也考慮到我們歷史社會發展的一個脈絡以及多數人民的\n\n01:12.961 --> 01:13.261\n被害人．\n\n01:30.623 --> 01:48.015\n我們也可以為他來伸張正義因此未來在配套的修法上我們也必須多考慮到被害者的心情及立場司法體系也應該要有積極的作為來回應民意以鞏固我們民眾對於司法的信任\n\n01:49.540 --> 02:06.094\n我們看到這個憲判對於判處死刑的要件適用於個案犯罪情節屬最嚴重且這個刑事的程序符合憲法最嚴密的正當法律程序的要求的情形\n\n02:06.875 --> 02:24.614\n若遇到無法判死刑的案件則無期徒刑是否得以替代嚴懲重大犯罪所以我想就有關於終身監禁落實無期徒刑的部分來和部長做一個討論\n\n02:26.556 --> 02:42.807\n那我們看到朝野各黨對於終身監禁不得假釋或是提高假釋的門檻都有提出類似的這個修法方向甚至已經有要求提出這個修法的版本來討論我們也了解到法務部這邊\n\n02:43.887 --> 03:05.173\n在研議定定無期徒刑假釋門檻的這個層級化的規範那所以我想請教部長對於這個假釋門檻如何區分這個層級是否我們已經有了大致的一個構想那法務部的這個特殊無期徒刑是否就包含不得假釋的這個終身監禁\n\n03:07.448 --> 03:24.805\n好謝謝委員那這個因應那個憲判字第8號的一個判決那我們法務部已經嚴理修正刑法77條我們在第二項有徵定我們這個草案就是故意殺人或殺人未遂竟判處無期徒刑或逾10年有期徒刑不得假釋\n\n03:25.786 --> 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