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00:02:18,662\n以及非病史、可疑非病史等等以及便利家屬的一個探視那針對這一個剛委員錘訊的那一個這個郭姓楠大學生我們在9月24號就以公函聯繫陸方那陸方在9月25號就如同副署長所講的陸方就已經有回應說這個郭楠呢已經受到人身自由限制的這一個通報\n\n7\n00:02:19,542 --> 00:02:38,784\n那有關於這個委員徐詢的軟線高職的這個出國失聯的情況據我們查證他已經回國自行回國在9月已經確定回國了以上報告好那我想現在所謂的一個詐騙的一個廣告層出不窮就像我們在這個螢幕上看到的\n\n8\n00:02:39,565 --> 00:02:41,426\n警察局部份有沒有什麼樣強化的作為?\n\n9\n00:02:58,410 --> 00:03:27,690\n那目前就是說對於到國外去被騙到國外的這個這個民眾那我們當然就是說民眾來報案以後我們當然就是立案調查立案調查以後就是就是馬上查證來來追查查證偵辦那如果是相關的需要外交部的我們會通報希望民眾填報那個失聯的通報單請求外外交部來協助\n\n10\n00:03:28,810 --> 00:03:57,610\n這一點我想本市還是希望我們警政署要更積極的作為那我想結合相關的部會加強一個國內的一個求職的一個警示機制這個不要讓人家那邊還要找人回來都不會有錢有時候根本人都找不回來了這部分是不是警政署能夠有一個強化的一個書面報告給本市好不好好好謝謝那請回請示主席我們再請金管會的邱副主委好金管會邱副主委\n\n11\n00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:30,132\n副主委我想我們金融機構在防制詐騙上面當然目前採取很多的一個措施包括除了一個靈慧關懷還有一個網路銀行的一個風險控管但是現在被騙都是高齡或是經濟弱勢的一個族群那針對這樣的一個弱勢經濟弱勢的一個族群我們有沒有一個更細緻的一個保護措施\n\n12\n00:04:31,583 --> 00:04:48,665\n根本報告有關尤其是高齡或是比較弱勢的族群我們有特別在臨櫃關懷裡面有要求有一定金額的這個匯款或是提領要特別做臨櫃關懷所以這個部分有特別做這個臨櫃關懷上面的要求\n\n13\n00:04:49,646 --> 00:05:18,225\n這個話這一點還是要請金管會要求我們這我們要比較記報的記錄兩句、記關心一下才會防止有些老人家他不會講實話因為他有時候他就是被騙了這樣這心情就一定都沒有要告訴你實在的這我們都很擔心那針對這樣子一個詐騙集團層出不窮一個更新的手法尤其利用一個虛擬資產進行詐騙那我們現行的監控機制是不是足夠來防範\n\n14\n00:05:20,887 --> 00:05:36,319\n有關在這個銀行的各個營業的這個方式都是有要求要做到這個防制詐騙的相關的規管所以在這個事前的部分目前又有一些技術性的這個\n\n15\n00:05:38,340 --> 00:05:53,835\n相關的這個制度來事先做偵測在整個交易面尤其是有要求行員要特別注意都有協助客戶那網路的部分在加強身份驗證的部分也做了很多的要求\n\n16\n00:05:54,495 --> 00:06:19,011\n對,也許最近網路有假證據這個假廣告實在是嚇死人齁,這都給大家報名白的啦齁,然後講這剛剛我們那個陳雪真委員講的這個只賺不賠的部分齁,非常非常的多但是我們在網路平台上面會看到很多未經核實的一個廣告那針對這部分我們是不是有一個明確的審查機制來防止我們更多的鄉親受害\n\n17\n00:06:20,128 --> 00:06:44,283\n根文報告目前網路這個投資詐騙的部分整個在這個投信投顧法修法以後我們都是有要求必須是實名制而且網路平台有負責必須審查的這個責任所以在這樣子的一個法律通過以後我們在執行上面更有法據的基礎目前主動收報的目前為止已經收報5萬多件都有做相關的處理\n\n18\n00:06:45,664 --> 00:06:53,182\n那這部分還是我們要積極來處理防止我們更多相應受害好謝謝那最後我們也請數位部黃部長好黃部長\n\n19\n00:06:59,383 --> 00:07:25,657\n委員好部長辛苦了那我想網路詐騙的部分我們也如果積極推出很多的一個防制措施包括我們最近網路詐騙一個通報查詢網的APP還有詐騙犯罪條例防制條例的一個立法來加強所謂對國內外一個網路廣告平台的一個監管那針對這樣子的一個查詢系統跟警政署的165的全民\n\n20\n00:07:26,517 --> 00:07:50,602\n防騙網的部分我們如何來進行分工跟互補我們這一個165主要是說已經明確是詐騙或是已經被詐騙的時候去報案那我們這個主要是說在不確定尤其是在網路是針對網路訊息不確定的時候可以來查訊我現在看到的訊息是不是一個詐騙訊息所以這是還沒有被騙以前你可以來先查驗很明確的做處理對最查證這樣\n\n21\n00:07:53,496 --> 00:08:17,867\n對那針對未落地的一個國際網路的廣告平台那如果說他們沒有如期指定一個法律代表政府我們有針對這樣的一個執法措施或是有相關的一個法律的標準如果這個在預計是在今年年底我們自發通過之後如果這個沒有配合做招募事他沒有法律代表在台灣的話他是會被罰款就是說他沒辦法做這樣的營業\n\n22\n00:08:18,727 --> 00:08:36,995\n蘇委現在已經10月份我們年底之前可以我們之外會在年底公佈然後就開始這個本身也是希望我們蘇委部長跟我們團隊能夠要加強畢竟這個國際詐騙的案件真的也是層出不窮那我們一起來努力避免我們的國人受害好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5115\t26880\t謝謝主席,我們有請警政署理副署長、法務部郭司長警政署理副署長、法務部副署長還有市長、武安\n27799\t43280\t那我想這陣子我們屏東有兩位年輕人他們分別到中國大陸跟緬甸之後失聯那這個案子本席曾經透過我們相關的部會去關切了解但是都一直沒有掌握到這個人的安全的問題\n44321\t64414\t那後來國台辦發了一個新聞說其中到中國大陸這位郭姓男子因為涉及參與詐騙集團被依法拘留但是我們海基會都從來沒有接到所謂的一個兩岸的通報機制的一個匯報這個部分那請教一下副署長跟市長我們是不是有掌握這兩個案子的狀況\n67965\t88703\t感謝立委我們警政署是看到媒體的報導然後就主動跟陸方那邊聯繫然後在9月25號他們就傳過來說他可能涉及詐欺案件所以被安徽省公安逮捕\n91158\t112247\t那我請教一下法務部那個司長那針對我們兩岸的一個司法合作跟人身保障的部分那到底我們有沒有什麼樣一個具體的一個作為跟一個保障國人安全的一個措施跟委員報告依照兩岸共打協議的第12條雙方同意即使通報對方人員被限制人身自由\n112867\t138662\t以及非病史、可疑非病史等等以及便利家屬的一個探視那針對這一個剛委員錘訊的那一個這個郭姓楠大學生我們在9月24號就以公函聯繫陸方那陸方在9月25號就如同副署長所講的陸方就已經有回應說這個郭楠呢已經受到人身自由限制的這一個通報\n139542\t158784\t那有關於這個委員徐詢的軟線高職的這個出國失聯的情況據我們查證他已經回國自行回國在9月已經確定回國了以上報告好那我想現在所謂的一個詐騙的一個廣告層出不窮就像我們在這個螢幕上看到的\n159565\t161426\t警察局部份有沒有什麼樣強化的作為?\n178410\t207690\t那目前就是說對於到國外去被騙到國外的這個這個民眾那我們當然就是說民眾來報案以後我們當然就是立案調查立案調查以後就是就是馬上查證來來追查查證偵辦那如果是相關的需要外交部的我們會通報希望民眾填報那個失聯的通報單請求外外交部來協助\n208810\t237610\t這一點我想本市還是希望我們警政署要更積極的作為那我想結合相關的部會加強一個國內的一個求職的一個警示機制這個不要讓人家那邊還要找人回來都不會有錢有時候根本人都找不回來了這部分是不是警政署能夠有一個強化的一個書面報告給本市好不好好好謝謝那請回請示主席我們再請金管會的邱副主委好金管會邱副主委\n247640\t270132\t副主委我想我們金融機構在防制詐騙上面當然目前採取很多的一個措施包括除了一個靈慧關懷還有一個網路銀行的一個風險控管但是現在被騙都是高齡或是經濟弱勢的一個族群那針對這樣的一個弱勢經濟弱勢的一個族群我們有沒有一個更細緻的一個保護措施\n271583\t288665\t根本報告有關尤其是高齡或是比較弱勢的族群我們有特別在臨櫃關懷裡面有要求有一定金額的這個匯款或是提領要特別做臨櫃關懷所以這個部分有特別做這個臨櫃關懷上面的要求\n289646\t318225\t這個話這一點還是要請金管會要求我們這我們要比較記報的記錄兩句、記關心一下才會防止有些老人家他不會講實話因為他有時候他就是被騙了這樣這心情就一定都沒有要告訴你實在的這我們都很擔心那針對這樣子一個詐騙集團層出不窮一個更新的手法尤其利用一個虛擬資產進行詐騙那我們現行的監控機制是不是足夠來防範\n320887\t336319\t有關在這個銀行的各個營業的這個方式都是有要求要做到這個防制詐騙的相關的規管所以在這個事前的部分目前又有一些技術性的這個\n338340\t353835\t相關的這個制度來事先做偵測在整個交易面尤其是有要求行員要特別注意都有協助客戶那網路的部分在加強身份驗證的部分也做了很多的要求\n354495\t379011\t對,也許最近網路有假證據這個假廣告實在是嚇死人齁,這都給大家報名白的啦齁,然後講這剛剛我們那個陳雪真委員講的這個只賺不賠的部分齁,非常非常的多但是我們在網路平台上面會看到很多未經核實的一個廣告那針對這部分我們是不是有一個明確的審查機制來防止我們更多的鄉親受害\n380128\t404283\t根文報告目前網路這個投資詐騙的部分整個在這個投信投顧法修法以後我們都是有要求必須是實名制而且網路平台有負責必須審查的這個責任所以在這樣子的一個法律通過以後我們在執行上面更有法據的基礎目前主動收報的目前為止已經收報5萬多件都有做相關的處理\n405664\t413182\t那這部分還是我們要積極來處理防止我們更多相應受害好謝謝那最後我們也請數位部黃部長好黃部長\n419383\t445657\t委員好部長辛苦了那我想網路詐騙的部分我們也如果積極推出很多的一個防制措施包括我們最近網路詐騙一個通報查詢網的APP還有詐騙犯罪條例防制條例的一個立法來加強所謂對國內外一個網路廣告平台的一個監管那針對這樣子的一個查詢系統跟警政署的165的全民\n446517\t470602\t防騙網的部分我們如何來進行分工跟互補我們這一個165主要是說已經明確是詐騙或是已經被詐騙的時候去報案那我們這個主要是說在不確定尤其是在網路是針對網路訊息不確定的時候可以來查訊我現在看到的訊息是不是一個詐騙訊息所以這是還沒有被騙以前你可以來先查驗很明確的做處理對最查證這樣\n473496\t497867\t對那針對未落地的一個國際網路的廣告平台那如果說他們沒有如期指定一個法律代表政府我們有針對這樣的一個執法措施或是有相關的一個法律的標準如果這個在預計是在今年年底我們自發通過之後如果這個沒有配合做招募事他沒有法律代表在台灣的話他是會被罰款就是說他沒辦法做這樣的營業\n498727\t516995\t蘇委現在已經10月份我們年底之前可以我們之外會在年底公佈然後就開始這個本身也是希望我們蘇委部長跟我們團隊能夠要加強畢竟這個國際詐騙的案件真的也是層出不窮那我們一起來努力避免我們的國人受害好謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席,我們有請警政署理副署長、法務部郭司長警政署理副署長、法務部副署長還有市長、武安\n那我想這陣子我們屏東有兩位年輕人他們分別到中國大陸跟緬甸之後失聯那這個案子本席曾經透過我們相關的部會去關切了解但是都一直沒有掌握到這個人的安全的問題\n那後來國台辦發了一個新聞說其中到中國大陸這位郭姓男子因為涉及參與詐騙集團被依法拘留但是我們海基會都從來沒有接到所謂的一個兩岸的通報機制的一個匯報這個部分那請教一下副署長跟市長我們是不是有掌握這兩個案子的狀況\n感謝立委我們警政署是看到媒體的報導然後就主動跟陸方那邊聯繫然後在9月25號他們就傳過來說他可能涉及詐欺案件所以被安徽省公安逮捕\n那我請教一下法務部那個司長那針對我們兩岸的一個司法合作跟人身保障的部分那到底我們有沒有什麼樣一個具體的一個作為跟一個保障國人安全的一個措施跟委員報告依照兩岸共打協議的第12條雙方同意即使通報對方人員被限制人身自由\n以及非病史、可疑非病史等等以及便利家屬的一個探視那針對這一個剛委員錘訊的那一個這個郭姓楠大學生我們在9月24號就以公函聯繫陸方那陸方在9月25號就如同副署長所講的陸方就已經有回應說這個郭楠呢已經受到人身自由限制的這一個通報\n那有關於這個委員徐詢的軟線高職的這個出國失聯的情況據我們查證他已經回國自行回國在9月已經確定回國了以上報告好那我想現在所謂的一個詐騙的一個廣告層出不窮就像我們在這個螢幕上看到的\n警察局部份有沒有什麼樣強化的作為?\n那目前就是說對於到國外去被騙到國外的這個這個民眾那我們當然就是說民眾來報案以後我們當然就是立案調查立案調查以後就是就是馬上查證來來追查查證偵辦那如果是相關的需要外交部的我們會通報希望民眾填報那個失聯的通報單請求外外交部來協助\n這一點我想本市還是希望我們警政署要更積極的作為那我想結合相關的部會加強一個國內的一個求職的一個警示機制這個不要讓人家那邊還要找人回來都不會有錢有時候根本人都找不回來了這部分是不是警政署能夠有一個強化的一個書面報告給本市好不好好好謝謝那請回請示主席我們再請金管會的邱副主委好金管會邱副主委\n副主委我想我們金融機構在防制詐騙上面當然目前採取很多的一個措施包括除了一個靈慧關懷還有一個網路銀行的一個風險控管但是現在被騙都是高齡或是經濟弱勢的一個族群那針對這樣的一個弱勢經濟弱勢的一個族群我們有沒有一個更細緻的一個保護措施\n根本報告有關尤其是高齡或是比較弱勢的族群我們有特別在臨櫃關懷裡面有要求有一定金額的這個匯款或是提領要特別做臨櫃關懷所以這個部分有特別做這個臨櫃關懷上面的要求\n這個話這一點還是要請金管會要求我們這我們要比較記報的記錄兩句、記關心一下才會防止有些老人家他不會講實話因為他有時候他就是被騙了這樣這心情就一定都沒有要告訴你實在的這我們都很擔心那針對這樣子一個詐騙集團層出不窮一個更新的手法尤其利用一個虛擬資產進行詐騙那我們現行的監控機制是不是足夠來防範\n有關在這個銀行的各個營業的這個方式都是有要求要做到這個防制詐騙的相關的規管所以在這個事前的部分目前又有一些技術性的這個\n相關的這個制度來事先做偵測在整個交易面尤其是有要求行員要特別注意都有協助客戶那網路的部分在加強身份驗證的部分也做了很多的要求\n對,也許最近網路有假證據這個假廣告實在是嚇死人齁,這都給大家報名白的啦齁,然後講這剛剛我們那個陳雪真委員講的這個只賺不賠的部分齁,非常非常的多但是我們在網路平台上面會看到很多未經核實的一個廣告那針對這部分我們是不是有一個明確的審查機制來防止我們更多的鄉親受害\n根文報告目前網路這個投資詐騙的部分整個在這個投信投顧法修法以後我們都是有要求必須是實名制而且網路平台有負責必須審查的這個責任所以在這樣子的一個法律通過以後我們在執行上面更有法據的基礎目前主動收報的目前為止已經收報5萬多件都有做相關的處理\n那這部分還是我們要積極來處理防止我們更多相應受害好謝謝那最後我們也請數位部黃部長好黃部長\n委員好部長辛苦了那我想網路詐騙的部分我們也如果積極推出很多的一個防制措施包括我們最近網路詐騙一個通報查詢網的APP還有詐騙犯罪條例防制條例的一個立法來加強所謂對國內外一個網路廣告平台的一個監管那針對這樣子的一個查詢系統跟警政署的165的全民\n防騙網的部分我們如何來進行分工跟互補我們這一個165主要是說已經明確是詐騙或是已經被詐騙的時候去報案那我們這個主要是說在不確定尤其是在網路是針對網路訊息不確定的時候可以來查訊我現在看到的訊息是不是一個詐騙訊息所以這是還沒有被騙以前你可以來先查驗很明確的做處理對最查證這樣\n對那針對未落地的一個國際網路的廣告平台那如果說他們沒有如期指定一個法律代表政府我們有針對這樣的一個執法措施或是有相關的一個法律的標準如果這個在預計是在今年年底我們自發通過之後如果這個沒有配合做招募事他沒有法律代表在台灣的話他是會被罰款就是說他沒辦法做這樣的營業\n蘇委現在已經10月份我們年底之前可以我們之外會在年底公佈然後就開始這個本身也是希望我們蘇委部長跟我們團隊能夠要加強畢竟這個國際詐騙的案件真的也是層出不窮那我們一起來努力避免我們的國人受害好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.115 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