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00:01:42,711\n我不是吳忠生有,主委我們來看一下去年有一個記者會談了性平案件而其中那個指控案件的當事人我們所指控那位教授他就是得到國科會未來科技獎那這個事件還在調查當中但是我想要問國科會這邊可不可以積極的把相關的機制建立起來也就是說不要只有所謂的終止補助甚至可以追回獎項我覺得這個是非常重要的事情主委可不可以簡單回覆一下\n\n6\n00:01:43,191 --> 00:01:55,405\n好,非常感謝陳委員提醒我們有關這些獎項如果違反《性平法》的事實已經確定的話是不是要追回這個獎項我們會審慎來研議\n\n7\n00:01:58,328 --> 00:02:23,693\n我希望一個月內收到回覆報告好謝謝主委好來下一個我們來看一下園區的部分其實呢我們看到三個科學園區都有所謂在談永續這件事情非常感謝企業的社會責任不管是SDGESG都有相關的手段跟目標可是我們來看一下目前園區所整理的工作事項有這麼多這麼多我就不一一念了看得出來園區跟廠商在環境永續上都非常的努力\n\n8\n00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:38,960\n可是我想要跟主委談另外一個觀點其實永續不是只有環保不是只有環境其實在社會跟文化資源的投入也可以是一個相關的方法我跟主委分享去年政交所已經修正上市上櫃公司永續發展實務守則\n\n9\n00:02:41,181 --> 00:03:10,265\n跟企業說經由捐贈贊助投資採購策略合作的支持模式可以要求企業把相關資源益助在文化藝術活動甚至是文化創意產業納入維護社會公益的範疇另外在112年度第10屆公司治理評鑑指標裡面也把公司如果可以投入資源支持台灣國內的文化發展把相關的支持方法跟成果揭露還可以在公司治理評鑑得分\n\n10\n00:03:10,945 --> 00:03:12,066\n我非常同意陳委員的觀點\n\n11\n00:03:28,354 --> 00:03:54,037\n我想我們在各個園區管理局也許我們可以設立這樣的評鑑的機制把這個項目也把它加進來其實我們科技的產業所有的廠商現在也努力真的是在朝這個方向走其實因為我時間有限我就沒有辦法分享可是例如說以臺灣這幾年只要談到任何跟文化產業都非常喜歡學韓國我就跟主委報告韓國在影視音甚至是書籍出版\n\n12\n00:03:54,377 --> 00:03:54,797\n在3個月內回覆\n\n13\n00:04:07,183 --> 00:04:18,328\n感謝主委國科會非常積極的推動科普這件事情不管是KidsScience或是KidsScience的起跑活動甚至相關後續的活動我就不再贅述不過真的感謝國科會甚至我們來看一下如果以整個10月份來看中研院有OpenHouse還有諾貝爾獎得獎公佈還有國科會有創新技術博覽會\n\n14\n00:04:36,295 --> 00:04:59,438\n如果我的想像是整個10月他都可以是台灣的小孩科技月那該有多好對不對好我們來下看這次KidsScience我真的要我們剛剛做不好的我們執政可是做得好的我們要鼓勵喔包含了故宮農業部高速網路中心使錢館大家做的圖卡跟相關資訊真的有站在理解小孩的立場我要再次感謝國科會可是我覺得很可惜這麼好的活動喔我們來看宣傳的部分\n\n15\n00:05:00,579 --> 00:05:27,748\n國科會你們說你們的宣傳呢是有記者會啟動典禮海報跟公文還有社群媒體可是我們來看歷史悠久的openhouse他們為了宣傳相關的活動讓更多人來參與他們做了非常非常多的事情可能也沒有花太多錢所以請主委不要誤會所以我想要拜託國科會我們的既然做了這麼多好的活動我們在宣傳的部分可不可以更用力更大力讓更多人可以來參與這個事情好謝謝陳委員提醒以後我們要注意就是宣傳\n\n16\n00:05:30,029 --> 00:05:49,557\n我並不是只要去追查預算在做宣傳部分不然可能又開倒車對不對所以我的意思是說我們更讓更多人知道宣傳的方法對對對好謝謝好那我們來看下一題喔真的時間有限來關於淹水的部分剛剛洪孟凱委員已經講了那我來跟就等於我來跟洪孟凱委員分享也跟主委分享到底我們國科會還可以做些什麼\n\n17\n00:05:50,217 --> 00:06:10,080\n國科會的災防中心我們來看一下先要感謝災防中心同仁在這一次颱風風災的努力發出了非常多的細胞廣播簡訊提醒大家那根據國科會給我們的資料裏面這一次颱風總共發出了728則簡訊其中最大量的是農業部的土石流警戒我覺得這非常重要\n\n18\n00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:30,971\n可是剛剛侯孟愷委員也說了北海岸來說當天氣象署已經發布了5則大雷雨的訊息可是回過來看大雷雨之餘淹水可能不是台灣人民所習慣的想像甚至可能來不及理解所以我們在想這一次淹水災防中心的通知樣態並不含淹水\n\n19\n00:06:32,992 --> 00:07:01,126\n那我跟主委報告我們自己做了解方請主委評估有沒有可行其實在水利署的網站上面我們來看一下左邊這一張他告訴我們哪裡有淹水這個是淹水警訊的部分甚至水利署他可以讓一般的人去註冊一個賬號然後登入你的手機登入你的地址如果你所住的地區有淹水的可能他會發簡訊通知你這個是水利署已經做好的事情那可是這一次災防中心跟國科會這個連結可不可以有機會把這個東西連結起來\n\n20\n00:07:02,907 --> 00:07:20,481\n可以,我們會做好,太好了,那我就不用多說如果國科會主委這邊覺得是可以做那甚至是跟地方政府積極的合作因為如果我要登錄簡訊手機號碼才能夠被告知可是明明左半邊整體的淹水警訊已經有了那這個會不會很難做,主委?\n\n21\n00:07:37,133 --> 00:08:00,271\n我們讓後面的跟委員報告一下其實我們在10月3日那一天所發布的所有警報我們都有透過LINE的官方帳號我們LINE的官方帳號有167萬的定位人數但是因為我們的災防中心目前細胞警訊沒有含到這個淹水的部分細胞的部分就有水利署因為它是主責單位所以水利署會發出去我們並不是主責單位\n\n22\n00:08:00,811 --> 00:08:15,448\n可是他可不可以連結到你們那個災防中心共同發放的訊息裡面可以嘛對不對我當然知道水利署有在做所以我說我們自己有做的功課好不好那不要讓我們民眾一邊在防災的時候還要自己上網查說我自己是不是那邊水的地方\n\n23\n00:08:16,548 --> 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謝謝培瑜委員\n","txt":"主席\n陳委員好好主委早安下一頁謝謝關於性平零容忍的部分我們看到國科會今天的業務報告裡面呢你們有修正一個要點喔非常感謝國科會做這個事情你們在111 112年的11月6號看到國科會相關的研究計畫要點裡面第26條你們新增了違反性平就會終止補助我覺得這個很好但是我要跟主委說你們其實還可以做得更多\n行政院昨天有一個發文 行政院針對自己的行政院文化獎他們做出了修正 他們甚至說可以撤銷廢紙追回獎項的條件 那我們來看文化部文化部在去年的非常多性平事件之後 他們做了全面性的法規盤點 他們甚至要求可以終止追回撤銷補助獎項的部分 那我們來看一下\n主委在國科會底下有非常多的獎項我們條列一下總統科學獎行政院傑出科技貢獻獎傑出研究獎吳大友先生紀念獎未來科技獎\n我不是吳忠生有,主委我們來看一下去年有一個記者會談了性平案件而其中那個指控案件的當事人我們所指控那位教授他就是得到國科會未來科技獎那這個事件還在調查當中但是我想要問國科會這邊可不可以積極的把相關的機制建立起來也就是說不要只有所謂的終止補助甚至可以追回獎項我覺得這個是非常重要的事情主委可不可以簡單回覆一下\n好,非常感謝陳委員提醒我們有關這些獎項如果違反《性平法》的事實已經確定的話是不是要追回這個獎項我們會審慎來研議\n我希望一個月內收到回覆報告好謝謝主委好來下一個我們來看一下園區的部分其實呢我們看到三個科學園區都有所謂在談永續這件事情非常感謝企業的社會責任不管是SDG 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SCIENCE既然做了這麼多好的活動，在宣傳的部分可不可以更用力、更大力讓更多人參與這個事情？"],["吳主任委員誠文：好，謝謝陳委員提醒，以後我們要注意，多宣傳，讓更多小朋友可以受益。"],["陳委員培瑜：對，我並不是只要追加預算在宣傳的部分，不然可能又開倒車，對不對？我的意思是要讓更多人知道。"],["吳主任委員誠文：就是宣傳的方法。"],["陳委員培瑜：對，謝謝。我們來看下一題，真的是時間有限。關於淹水的部分，剛剛洪孟楷委員已經講了，那就是等於我來跟洪孟楷委員分享，也跟主委分享，到底國科會還可以做些什麼？我們先要感謝國科會災防中心同仁在這一次颱風風災的努力，發出非常多細胞廣播簡訊提醒大家。根據國科會給我們的資料，這一次颱風總共發出了728則簡訊，其中最大量的是農業部的土石流警戒，我覺得這非常重要，可是剛剛洪孟楷委員也說了，以北海岸來說，當天氣象署已經發布了5則大雷雨的訊息。可是回過來看，大雷雨之於淹水，可能不是臺灣人民所習慣的想像，甚至可能來不及理解，所以我們在想這一次淹水，災防中心的通知樣態並不含淹水，我跟主委報告，我們自己做了解方，請主委評估有沒有可行。其實在水利署的網站上面，我們來看一下左邊這一張，它告訴我們哪裡有淹水，這個是淹水警訊，甚至水利署可以讓一般人去註冊帳號，然後登入你的手機、登入你的地址，如果你所住的地區有淹水的可能，它會發簡訊通知你，這個是水利署已經做好的事情，可是災防中心跟國科會可不可以有機會把這個東西連結起來？"],["吳主任委員誠文：可以，我們會做。"],["陳委員培瑜：好，太好了，那我就不用多說。如果國科會主委覺得可以做，甚至是跟地方政府積極的合作，卻要登入手機號碼才能夠被告知，可是明明左半邊整體的淹水警訊已經有了，這會不會很難做？主委。"],["吳主任委員誠文：不會，其實災防中心在易淹水地區評估可能會淹水的技術都已經發展出來了，所以很謝謝委員……"],["陳委員培瑜：是、是，但是災防中心細胞簡訊的連結是有可能做到的？"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，有可能做到。"],["陳委員培瑜：也許一個月內就可以完成，我們讓後面的……"],["陳主任宏宇：跟委員報告，其實在10月3號那一天發布的所有警報，我們都有透過LINE的官方帳號，我們LINE的官方帳號有167萬的訂閱人數，所以……"],["陳委員培瑜：因為我們目前災防中心細胞簡訊沒有含到淹水的部分。"],["陳主任宏宇：細胞的部分就由水利署，因為它是主責單位，所以水利署會發出去，我們並不是主責單位……"],["陳委員培瑜：可是它可不可以連結到災防中心共同發放的訊息裡面？"],["陳主任宏宇：可以、可以，沒有問題。"],["陳委員培瑜：可以嘛！對不對？"],["陳主任宏宇：是、是。"],["陳委員培瑜：我當然知道水利署有在做，所以我說我們自己有做了功課。"],["吳主任委員誠文：我們會把它連結起來。"],["陳委員培瑜：好不好？不要讓民眾一邊在防災，一邊還要自己上網查我這裡是不是淹水的地方，這樣好不好？"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，謝謝委員建議。"],["陳委員培瑜：我們把整個系統合起來就好了嘛！都已經是既有的系統，所以我簡單整理一下我們今天要求的部分，包含性平的事件，我們希望追回獎項這個事情要開始討論，還有把文化投資作為ESG的可能性，還有科普的宣傳請更加用力，最後，災防細胞廣播簡訊把淹水的部分放下去，做一個系統的整合。"],["吳主任委員誠文：非常感謝委員。"],["陳委員培瑜：好，我們的時間，後續相關一個月、三個月的部分，我們辦公室會追蹤，也拜託國科會。"],["吳主任委員誠文：好，謝謝。"],["陳委員培瑜：謝謝主委、謝謝主席，謝謝。"],["主席：好，謝謝培瑜委員。","接下來，我們有請張雅琳委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":428,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-22-3","speakers":["萬美玲","林倩綺","洪孟楷","柯志恩","陳培瑜","張雅琳","陳秀寳","林宜瑾","郭昱晴","范雲","吳沛憶","葛如鈞","葉元之","吳春城","王定宇","鍾佳濱","羅廷瑋","羅智強","陳冠廷","張嘉郡","邱志偉"],"page_start":375,"meetingDate":["2024-10-09"],"gazette_id":"1138101","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1138101_00012"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第3次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請國家科學及技術委員會主任委員吳誠文列席報告業務概況，並備質詢","agenda_id":"1138101_00017"}}}