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00:00:36,309\n總委員好主委好處長好主委我們也相識多年了那我看到你就會回憶當年在莫拉克風災你那時候被稱為八八將軍那時候呢協助我們災局很多雖然時隔這麼多年還是要再度感念謝謝謝謝委員的支持尤其是我們在前不久遭逢強力颱風啊超過\n\n3\n00:00:39,217 --> 00:00:48,220\n這個40幾年前的賽洛瑪我們現在餘悸猶存特別彰顯當年您的協助我們民族珍貴在這裡藉此機會愚公於世謝謝兩位我肩膀的這個韌帶關節受傷要謝謝北榮的陳院長那那個\n\n4\n00:00:54,062 --> 00:01:23,169\n另外我要謝謝我們平榮我們的吳院長讓主委知道這次他的掛號費從150跳到降到100雖然距離民眾的期待有點落差但是普惠全部的就醫民眾給您肯定也謝謝我們未來農民醫院農民總醫院的體系持續的在全國各地支持照顧我們民眾的健康好不好謝謝委員但是我這邊有一些小小的心得我覺得我們的醫療技術都非常的好\n\n5\n00:01:23,755 --> 00:01:50,114\n我甚至到其他國家我常去越南我聽到他們在地接觸的官方或醫院的人士說他們對於來台灣學習先進的醫療技術特別是榮總系統的接待印象深刻因為我們本身因為有這樣的一個軍事的一個管理的背景所以他們覺得非常的有效率但是我要提醒一下未來在接待其他國家後進國家來學習我們先進醫療系統的時候要留一句話\n\n6\n00:01:53,991 --> 00:02:13,030\n提出要求一些相對應未來能夠有助於我們國家發展對外關係不要一次包袱都抖光了那個所有的技術都人家學走了得到了友情但是其他的注意相當有限希望你們能夠成為我們在新南向外交上一個堅實的技術後盾可以嗎\n\n7\n00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:36,842\n可以那我也希望說我們在場的榮總體系啊既然被其他國家所肯定那我們希望說能夠有助於我們國家在跟其他的外交關係上扮演一個另類的一個外交兼兵謝謝那麼接下來呢還是回到我本席關切的一直以來兩個核心問題一個就是屏東榮總那屏東榮總非常辛苦那麼因為呢我們目前的醫護人員的\n\n8\n00:02:38,743 --> 00:02:39,223\n委員會主席\n\n9\n00:03:08,102 --> 00:03:33,980\n我其實我待會也會去委員會提同樣類似的意見其實總院長們都非常認真你們給的資源也黃多浪但問題是沒有人就是沒有人所以這些人要從哪裡來我們退伍會要跟衛福部共同來思考我這次有去開刀我真正體會到我們醫院裡面不是只有受過專業訓練的醫護人員還有很多的輔佐人力推輪椅的啦翻床的啦但我發現我們的醫護人員過勞\n\n10\n00:03:36,101 --> 00:03:56,078\n很多非核心的技術業務他們仍然要去執行晚上11點把你叫起來晚上1點把你叫起來量血壓然後叫你吃藥吃什麼藥吃安眠藥開玩笑這不是這個意思就是說有些非醫護的專業核心業務我們是不是請衛護部思考一下有一些護理佐理人員讓他能夠進入到我們的醫療體系你覺得會不會退伍會也往衛護部這邊來反映總院長們支持這樣一個方向\n\n11\n00:04:05,275 --> 00:04:26,176\n主委他們都用掌聲了嘛所以你在部會行政院的時候要堅持要堅定請衛福部檢討我們現在醫療體系當中護理人員非核心專業領域以外的這些事務可以創設護理佐理人員的方式來協助他們請他們加快速度對因為目前這些推輪椅的其實也不是專業人力都是人力派遣\n\n12\n00:04:27,117 --> 00:04:45,645\n看護很多都是外籍他們也沒有語文溝通的能力只受過短短的訓練這都會影響到我們的品質那最後呢有一個時間上我要跟您請求就是處長來的原因就是我們的國軍退出役官兵啊其實呢目前有一類跟二類未達十年的這些目前是我們國軍招募人力的重點\n\n13\n00:04:46,305 --> 00:04:47,546\n其實目前有一個職場非常缺人就是公共運輸的架勢\n\n14\n00:05:04,912 --> 00:05:29,225\n公共運輸的價值其實目前我在協助這些客運車業者跟交通部去爭取因為他們需要的是離峰尖峰的人力需求差別很大我們的退除役官兵他退休之後他退伍之後他或許不需要全職的工作非常適合這種所謂的part-time的集中在人力尖峰需求的派遣工作主委可不可以請我們處長跟我們各地的就業部員們\n\n15\n00:05:32,116 --> 00:05:32,216\n委員發報告\n\n16\n00:05:53,665 --> 00:06:07,318\n三個月的一個空窗期他要等待所以很多的我們退伍官兵有去受訓但是沒有辦法等這個三個月的空窗期再去考照所以他們都跑掉那我們現在要跟委員報告像國光客運軍隊來講他都主動來找我們那他們也知道這個問題存在這個三個月的問題他們現在非常釋出的善意也就是說這三個月我給你這三個月市長的租款機關可以來調整的\n\n17\n00:06:18,688 --> 00:06:42,923\n這個是交通部好那很簡單我們就來找交通部協調好不好我找客運業者現在全聯會的李市長是屏東客運的董事長那他的人力有代表全國的需求你們也來一起參與協調我請交通部來我們來協調讓我們的國軍退除役官兵在退伍之前他所習得的第二技能價值技能可以在他退伍的第二春的枝芽來貢獻我們社會可以嗎可以主委請指示一下可以嗎可以\n\n18\n00:06:45,946 --> 00:06:54,338\n請退伍會積極的來協助處理好不好我們來跟交通部爭取來跟衛福部爭取好不好我們會繼續協助好謝謝我們主委懷念的88將軍謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n612\t11870\t主席、在黨委員、先進、列席的總行政組長、官員、會長、公務夥伴、媒體記者、女士先生有請我們嚴主任委員：也請我們池處長在旁代表協助\n17182\t36309\t總委員好主委好 處長好 主委我們也相識多年了那我看到你就會回憶當年在莫拉克風災你那時候被稱為八八將軍那時候呢協助我們災局很多雖然時隔這麼多年還是要再度感念謝謝謝謝委員的支持尤其是我們在前不久遭逢強力颱風啊超過\n39217\t48220\t這個40幾年前的賽洛瑪我們現在餘悸猶存特別彰顯當年您的協助我們民族珍貴在這裡藉此機會愚公於世謝謝兩位我肩膀的這個韌帶關節受傷要謝謝北榮的陳院長那那個\n54062\t83169\t另外我要謝謝我們平榮我們的吳院長讓主委知道這次他的掛號費從150跳到降到100雖然距離民眾的期待有點落差但是普惠全部的就醫民眾給您肯定也謝謝我們未來農民醫院農民總醫院的體系持續的在全國各地支持照顧我們民眾的健康好不好謝謝委員但是我這邊有一些小小的心得我覺得我們的醫療技術都非常的好\n83755\t110114\t我甚至到其他國家我常去越南我聽到他們在地接觸的官方或醫院的人士說他們對於來台灣學習先進的醫療技術特別是榮總系統的接待印象深刻因為我們本身因為有這樣的一個軍事的一個管理的背景所以他們覺得非常的有效率但是我要提醒一下未來在接待其他國家後進國家來學習我們先進醫療系統的時候要留一句話\n113991\t133030\t提出要求一些相對應未來能夠有助於我們國家發展對外關係不要一次包袱都抖光了那個所有的技術都人家學走了得到了友情但是其他的注意相當有限希望你們能夠成為我們在新南向外交上一個堅實的技術後盾可以嗎\n133510\t156842\t可以那我也希望說我們在場的榮總體系啊既然被其他國家所肯定那我們希望說能夠有助於我們國家在跟其他的外交關係上扮演一個另類的一個外交兼兵謝謝那麼接下來呢還是回到我本席關切的一直以來兩個核心問題一個就是屏東榮總那屏東榮總非常辛苦那麼因為呢我們目前的醫護人員的\n158743\t159223\t委員會主席\n188102\t213980\t我其實我待會也會去委員會提同樣類似的意見其實總院長們都非常認真你們給的資源也黃多浪但問題是沒有人就是沒有人所以這些人要從哪裡來我們退伍會要跟衛福部共同來思考我這次有去開刀我真正體會到我們醫院裡面不是只有受過專業訓練的醫護人員還有很多的輔佐人力推輪椅的啦翻床的啦但我發現我們的醫護人員過勞\n216101\t236078\t很多非核心的技術業務他們仍然要去執行晚上11點把你叫起來晚上1點把你叫起來量血壓然後叫你吃藥吃什麼藥吃安眠藥開玩笑這不是這個意思就是說有些非醫護的專業核心業務我們是不是請衛護部思考一下有一些護理佐理人員讓他能夠進入到我們的醫療體系你覺得會不會退伍會也往衛護部這邊來反映總院長們支持這樣一個方向\n245275\t266176\t主委他們都用掌聲了嘛所以你在部會行政院的時候要堅持要堅定請衛福部檢討我們現在醫療體系當中護理人員非核心專業領域以外的這些事務可以創設護理佐理人員的方式來協助他們請他們加快速度對因為目前這些推輪椅的其實也不是專業人力都是人力派遣\n267117\t285645\t看護很多都是外籍他們也沒有語文溝通的能力只受過短短的訓練這都會影響到我們的品質那最後呢有一個時間上我要跟您請求就是處長來的原因就是我們的國軍退出役官兵啊其實呢目前有一類跟二類未達十年的這些目前是我們國軍招募人力的重點\n286305\t287546\t其實目前有一個職場非常缺人就是公共運輸的架勢\n304912\t329225\t公共運輸的價值其實目前我在協助這些客運車業者跟交通部去爭取因為他們需要的是離峰尖峰的人力需求差別很大我們的退除役官兵他退休之後他退伍之後他或許不需要全職的工作非常適合這種所謂的part-time的集中在人力尖峰需求的派遣工作主委可不可以請我們處長跟我們各地的就業部員們\n332116\t332216\t委員發報告\n353665\t367318\t三個月的一個空窗期他要等待所以很多的我們退伍官兵有去受訓但是沒有辦法等這個三個月的空窗期再去考照所以他們都跑掉那我們現在要跟委員報告像國光客運軍隊來講他都主動來找我們那他們也知道這個問題存在這個三個月的問題他們現在非常釋出的善意也就是說這三個月我給你這三個月市長的租款機關可以來調整的\n378688\t402923\t這個是交通部好那很簡單我們就來找交通部協調好不好我找客運業者現在全聯會的李市長是屏東客運的董事長那他的人力有代表全國的需求你們也來一起參與協調我請交通部來我們來協調讓我們的國軍退除役官兵在退伍之前他所習得的第二技能價值技能可以在他退伍的第二春的枝芽來貢獻我們社會可以嗎可以主委請指示一下可以嗎可以\n405946\t414338\t請退伍會積極的來協助處理好不好我們來跟交通部爭取來跟衛福部爭取好不好我們會繼續協助好謝謝我們主委懷念的88將軍謝謝\n","txt":"主席、在黨委員、先進、列席的總行政組長、官員、會長、公務夥伴、媒體記者、女士先生有請我們嚴主任委員：也請我們池處長在旁代表協助\n總委員好主委好 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主委我們也相識多年了那我看到你就會回憶當年在莫拉克風災你那時候被稱為八八將軍那時候呢協助我們災局很多雖然時隔這麼多年還是要再度感念謝謝謝謝委員的支持尤其是我們在前不久遭逢強力颱風啊超過\n這個40幾年前的賽洛瑪我們現在餘悸猶存特別彰顯當年您的協助我們民族珍貴在這裡藉此機會愚公於世謝謝兩位我肩膀的這個韌帶關節受傷要謝謝北榮的陳院長那那個\n另外我要謝謝我們平榮我們的吳院長讓主委知道這次他的掛號費從150跳到降到100雖然距離民眾的期待有點落差但是普惠全部的就醫民眾給您肯定也謝謝我們未來農民醫院農民總醫院的體系持續的在全國各地支持照顧我們民眾的健康好不好謝謝委員但是我這邊有一些小小的心得我覺得我們的醫療技術都非常的好\n我甚至到其他國家我常去越南我聽到他們在地接觸的官方或醫院的人士說他們對於來台灣學習先進的醫療技術特別是榮總系統的接待印象深刻因為我們本身因為有這樣的一個軍事的一個管理的背景所以他們覺得非常的有效率但是我要提醒一下未來在接待其他國家後進國家來學習我們先進醫療系統的時候要留一句話\n提出要求一些相對應未來能夠有助於我們國家發展對外關係不要一次包袱都抖光了那個所有的技術都人家學走了得到了友情但是其他的注意相當有限希望你們能夠成為我們在新南向外交上一個堅實的技術後盾可以嗎\n可以那我也希望說我們在場的榮總體系啊既然被其他國家所肯定那我們希望說能夠有助於我們國家在跟其他的外交關係上扮演一個另類的一個外交兼兵謝謝那麼接下來呢還是回到我本席關切的一直以來兩個核心問題一個就是屏東榮總那屏東榮總非常辛苦那麼因為呢我們目前的醫護人員的\n委員會主席\n我其實我待會也會去委員會提同樣類似的意見其實總院長們都非常認真你們給的資源也黃多浪但問題是沒有人就是沒有人所以這些人要從哪裡來我們退伍會要跟衛福部共同來思考我這次有去開刀我真正體會到我們醫院裡面不是只有受過專業訓練的醫護人員還有很多的輔佐人力推輪椅的啦翻床的啦但我發現我們的醫護人員過勞\n很多非核心的技術業務他們仍然要去執行晚上11點把你叫起來晚上1點把你叫起來量血壓然後叫你吃藥吃什麼藥吃安眠藥開玩笑這不是這個意思就是說有些非醫護的專業核心業務我們是不是請衛護部思考一下有一些護理佐理人員讓他能夠進入到我們的醫療體系你覺得會不會退伍會也往衛護部這邊來反映總院長們支持這樣一個方向\n主委他們都用掌聲了嘛所以你在部會行政院的時候要堅持要堅定請衛福部檢討我們現在醫療體系當中護理人員非核心專業領域以外的這些事務可以創設護理佐理人員的方式來協助他們請他們加快速度對因為目前這些推輪椅的其實也不是專業人力都是人力派遣\n看護很多都是外籍他們也沒有語文溝通的能力只受過短短的訓練這都會影響到我們的品質那最後呢有一個時間上我要跟您請求就是處長來的原因就是我們的國軍退出役官兵啊其實呢目前有一類跟二類未達十年的這些目前是我們國軍招募人力的重點\n其實目前有一個職場非常缺人就是公共運輸的架勢\n公共運輸的價值其實目前我在協助這些客運車業者跟交通部去爭取因為他們需要的是離峰尖峰的人力需求差別很大我們的退除役官兵他退休之後他退伍之後他或許不需要全職的工作非常適合這種所謂的part-time的集中在人力尖峰需求的派遣工作主委可不可以請我們處長跟我們各地的就業部員們\n委員發報告\n三個月的一個空窗期他要等待所以很多的我們退伍官兵有去受訓但是沒有辦法等這個三個月的空窗期再去考照所以他們都跑掉那我們現在要跟委員報告像國光客運軍隊來講他都主動來找我們那他們也知道這個問題存在這個三個月的問題他們現在非常釋出的善意也就是說這三個月我給你這三個月市長的租款機關可以來調整的\n這個是交通部好那很簡單我們就來找交通部協調好不好我找客運業者現在全聯會的李市長是屏東客運的董事長那他的人力有代表全國的需求你們也來一起參與協調我請交通部來我們來協調讓我們的國軍退除役官兵在退伍之前他所習得的第二技能價值技能可以在他退伍的第二春的枝芽來貢獻我們社會可以嗎可以主委請指示一下可以嗎可以\n請退伍會積極的來協助處理好不好我們來跟交通部爭取來跟衛福部爭取好不好我們會繼續協助好謝謝我們主委懷念的88將軍謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.612 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