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00:01:36,584\n還在拼啊?\n\n5\n00:02:00,237 --> 00:02:25,506\n當然要一直拼了還在拼這個願板是早就承諾的那也在中央很大的討論是認為行政院必須要有願板因為兒童托育服務是一個非常重要的一環尤其在少子女化對策裡面這個非常重要那很多年輕的家庭甚至在我們\n\n6\n00:02:46,445 --> 00:03:01,870\n那大家都認為應該第一個資源整合第二個應該專法能夠來做一個整合的一個專法依靠的平台希望提供更周全更安全的一個兒童托育嘛對不對所以這個專法實在是刻不容緩\n\n7\n00:03:02,890 --> 00:03:17,570\n所以我們有版本了所以我拜託衛生福利部可不可以快一點我們希望有院版那呢一起來討論一起來建構一起來讓專法早一日的立法通過可以嗎部長\n\n8\n00:03:18,331 --> 00:03:39,639\n是的,包委員,從我過去擔任8年的立委,我的經驗是有願版的話比較好討論。有願版的話比較好討論?我跟你講如果你願版到時候再不出來的話,今年你再不出來的話,那我就要拜託召委我們委員的板板要先審喔。負責的單位要趕快提出來。\n\n9\n00:03:41,119 --> 00:04:05,005\n因為我們今天的討論的主題裡面在我最重視的很多的年輕家庭很多的家長阿公阿嬤最注意的就是我們孩子的安全問題那尤其在托育政策裡面不管是托嬰也好或者是3到6歲的這個公共托育也好其實呢這個對年輕家庭來講\n\n10\n00:04:26,952 --> 00:04:49,080\n我們來講少子女化就是國安問題那呢必須把孩子的事情當作是國家的事情那這也是賴清的總統所宣誓出來的啊對不對部長所以呢在少子女化對策裡面我剛剛講的第一個我認為應該要成立專責單位第二個我們在很多的利多誘因的方面一定還要再加強\n\n11\n00:04:49,960 --> 00:05:16,901\n那很多的補助的預算是在我們衛生福利部那我認為除了補助預算之外呢更重要的是建立它的品質那而且呢這品質建立在0到2歲除了是托嬰中心的專業跟品質還有保姆的這個專業跟品質那這個其實都是我們很多的家長心心念念所要要求政府要做給大家看\n\n12\n00:05:17,721 --> 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