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00:02:22,836\n排放量會不會有改變會不會有其他的企業會因應這樣的這個審議會的結論會去做調整就是會不會增加其他新的企業除了這現在281家公司當然會可能因為這個281家或是500個廠都是變動每年都是變動的\n\n8\n00:02:27,809 --> 00:02:44,236\n變動的方式就是依照它排放量如果有超過25000公噸那這一點就是我要請教部長我突然跟我們同仁討論到一點那會不會有企業因為我跟部長報告未來這個從每公噸300元會增加到2030年可能到1200元\n\n9\n00:02:45,536 --> 00:03:06,923\n那會不會有一些企業很聰明啊,我不知道你們是怎麼樣去審查這個碳排放量,那會不會有一些企業它會不會拆分公司,或是它把這個工廠的部分分成再做一家工廠,拆成兩家工廠,導致你們在審查的部分的時候看不出來它的到底的排放量是多少,會不會有這樣的情況,那導致你們沒有辦法收到完整的碳稅、碳費?\n\n10\n00:03:08,483 --> 00:03:35,632\n對,報告委員,這個其實也請以後的會計師不要用這樣的取巧的辦法啦,細節我請我們正式主席來,他們當時有討論到這個問題好,請說委員好,其實因為我們在要求他們要做盤查的時候呢,是以一個工廠作為邊界沒錯,那如果他們如果派成兩家工廠,或者是直接未來做一個產業的變動,感覺起來好像有沒有排碳,可是事實上排碳量還是很高\n\n11\n00:03:36,833 --> 00:03:54,472\n市長跟委員報告因為現在所有的這些工廠他其實都也有這個固定污染源的這個許可所以如果他們要去更動這一些他的這個為了碳費去更動這些數字他其實就會涉及到他的許可證的變更固定污染源許可證的變更這不是一件容易的事\n\n12\n00:03:55,066 --> 00:04:20,300\n好,所以大家都解釋很清楚,所以我要跟部長講的,其實不是規劃的問題,就像我剛一開始提到的,台灣本身就是因為錯誤的能源政策,所以碳排放量我個人是居高不下,最近這10年,碳排放量我相信也是慢慢沒有任何的下降的一個狀況,所以我這邊請教部長,你是不是可以來,我認為最大的問題就是全台灣的碳排放量,\n\n13\n00:04:21,054 --> 00:04:24,556\n臺灣的碳排放量在未來的10年或5年或10年或20年臺灣的碳排放量整體要下降到多少?\n\n14\n00:04:41,565 --> 00:05:05,701\n報告委員其實在這個新訂定的例如說我們內部在檢討這個國家的這個第三階段的管制目標的時候我們目前推算到2035年那其實我也看到台電的數字有大幅度的這個減少但是這個其實還是要多元綠能各方面的能源的轉型所以部長我的意思是說你們只管企業啊企業一定要去課碳費啊那可是全台灣的整體的碳排放量不一定會減少\n\n15\n00:05:06,662 --> 00:05:32,378\n就是因為企業當你收取很高的碳費的時候企業他們會想一些方式來自保嘛可是全台灣的整體碳排放量根本沒有變少啊例如說國際來看我們台灣是在打假球啊這要是一個很重要的問題你要定立一個目標啊就是說你在要求企業在收這些費率的時候其實台灣本身我們台灣要設定自己的一個本身的一個目標不然說那麼多碳費全台灣的碳排放量\n\n16\n00:05:33,559 --> 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