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00:01:31,505\n人選之人入圍亞洲內容大獎,其中陳妍霏也拿下亞洲最佳新人獎。現在我們正在上映的小燕和吳愛麗拿到了韓國釜山國慶電影節評審團大獎。\n\n5\n00:01:35,607 --> 00:01:53,730\n李遠部長對媒體說,現在正是臺灣電影的最好時機。所以我想這都是很多人,很多年我們政府給予臺灣的影視,也就是我們現在講的臺流,很多的支持所展現的成果。\n\n6\n00:01:54,531 --> 00:02:18,797\n但是除了影視之外音樂尤其是臺灣的流行音樂文化我想這也是我們臺灣非常非常強有潛力的產業尤其除了產業以外像我自己我個人從小學開始我們就喜歡聽流行音樂其實這個音樂的內涵對於我們的人格養成對於我們的思想思考甚至個性我想都有很大的影響所以我認為我們政府絕對\n\n7\n00:02:21,411 --> 00:02:43,202\n有必要也有責任來支持我們本土音樂的產業。我們看到在我們台灣的音樂發展當中其中嘻哈音樂正在崛起當中我們台灣有非常多很有潛力的嘻哈歌手甚至舉一個例子像熊仔熊信寬我們以前他台大應該算是我學弟\n\n8\n00:02:43,982 --> 00:03:08,396\n他在我們的金曲獎當中是在各個類型的音樂當中脫穎而出,拿下了金曲獎最佳華語專輯,這是一個很高的殊榮肯定。那像我們賴清德總統就職的時候,也找來了客家歌手王宗維,台語歌手柯瀟來演出,過去總統府的音樂會曾經也邀請過阿夸麵。\n\n9\n00:03:09,717 --> 00:03:29,955\n院長、部長、我想你們應該都認識阿誇麵,他就是在臺灣自製的嘻哈選秀節目大嘻哈時代第二季脫穎而出的冠軍。所以說用嘻哈這個音樂的類型來唱出我們臺灣本土的故事,或者是歌手個人的思想,\n\n10\n00:03:30,987 --> 00:03:57,282\n的發揮這個已經是展現出非常大的才華那我作為一個大嘻哈時代的粉絲其實因為我們在IG上面看到說第三季即將也要再上映了所以呢我也希望說我們的院長是不是可以跟我一起來努力我們一起來承諾說我們政府要可以給臺灣的流行音樂產業更強力的支持\n\n11\n00:03:59,148 --> 00:04:16,406\n謝謝委員我真的應該跟委員多多學習因為我們這個年紀我們的旋律的能力都比不上這個節拍啦所以我們要努力去學習這麼快的變速而且它的很多在唱的過程當中語言的表達能力非常非常的強\n\n12\n00:04:16,966 --> 00:04:19,450\n前幾天在高雄打狗雞,滅火器主唱楊大正跟歌迷分享一段對話。\n\n13\n00:04:32,048 --> 00:04:55,921\n他就說因為現在臺灣有些歌手如果要進入中國市場的話必須要有些政治表態那很多歌迷可能因此就很傷心那大陣就跟歌迷說如果你很傷心你可以選擇離開但你不要出征那臺灣路線不是一條好走的路所以我不能要求每一個歌手藝人都要走這條路\n\n14\n00:04:56,801 --> 00:05:17,357\n但是呢,作為歌迷傷心可以離開,作為政府我想我們不能離開。臺灣路線當然不是一條好走的路,我們政府有責任,把這條路鋪得更加的安穩。我非常的希望說院長能夠承諾,我們能夠給臺灣的音樂產業更多的支持,好不好?\n\n15\n00:05:20,606 --> 00:05:41,964\n大嘻哈時代在參加軍中獎的時候我當時是評審我也給他最佳音樂獎跟創新獎大嘻哈時代所帶領的新的這些選手給我一個很大的震撼就是臺灣要發展出自己的音樂嘻哈是一個非常好的類別因為他是\n\n16\n00:05:42,244 --> 00:05:42,664\n臺語、客語、原住民語\n\n17\n00:05:56,624 --> 00:06:22,191\n有些人因為市場去了中國大陸以後我覺得他會受限制因為中國大陸市場不太可能被大家用這麼諷刺的語言批判所以我在這裡跟委員保證除了大嘻哈時代這種節目之外我們會繼續努力推出一些音樂劇甚至於到國際上去辦這種音樂劇把這個大嘻哈這種東西成為我們台灣音樂的一個特色\n\n18\n00:06:23,573 --> 00:06:29,733\n是,這個在大政對革命的呼籲當中,其中關鍵,我想院長也很清楚,就在於市場。\n\n19\n00:06:31,065 --> 00:06:33,207\n其實我們做的研究,像馬來西亞它的定期會有嘻哈的那個表演,我們會尋找\n\n20\n00:06:59,566 --> 00:07:02,048\n文化也是我們新南向政策,非常重要的一環,是不是可以請院長來大力支持?\n\n21\n00:07:18,285 --> 00:07:18,305\n吳沛憶議員\n\n22\n00:07:34,628 --> 00:07:51,345\n那當初叫做斑斑有鮮奶,現在實際上以臺北市來說,因為各校要勾選一院嘛,有九成的學校都選擇保九乳,所以目前現況是叫做斑斑保九乳。那我想不知道院長有沒有相關的了解,我們是不是可以做得更周全一點?\n\n23\n00:07:52,076 --> 00:08:17,027\n沒有錯,在提供給地方政府跟學校來選擇的過程當中,現在有75%都選擇了飽酒乳。事實上它也可以適度的增加學童在鈣吸收方面的營養,但是我覺得我完全贊成委員所說的,在推出的時候可能私律上還有所欠缺,所以我們這一次是訂了三個月的短約,到今年年底,那明年的我已經\n\n24\n00:08:18,237 --> 00:08:42,664\n速度要求農業部跟教育部都要從長計議要設計一個完全可行不要增加學校負擔而且地方政府也能夠配合同時運送過程當中也能保證他的安全進到教室裡面去不增加教職人員跟學生太多負擔的狀況底下我們才可以實施那至於說目前已經在契約當中的\n\n25\n00:08:43,524 --> 00:09:00,935\n我還是可以檢討啦,我覺得我的用意可能在於說,如果學校真的有困難,地方政府也沒有辦法有強力的配合的話,那是不是我們不要太強制,但是已經在上路的這些學校,我們還是盡量的保持最好的狀況來提供給他們。\n\n26\n00:09:02,156 --> 00:09:28,909\n那當中還有沒有什麼可以補救的措施希望教育部能夠提出但是這個時間非常有限因為只有剩下兩個多月的時間做那個補救可能時間上都很緩所以應該是兩個一個是已經上路的持續的往更好的方向去走但是有困難的有質疑的有能力還沒有辦法搭配上來的那我們不要做任何的強制但這樣可能對小朋友的選擇來講會有一些失落但是我們明年從長計一來做處理\n\n27\n00:09:30,618 --> 00:09:56,864\n是,為什麼一定要在這個總結的時候提出來呢?因為我想我們絕對是有能力做更周旋的考慮,因為我覺得你們做得好,我們一定給肯定,但是該檢討我們還是要正式問題來檢討。像過去,因為我在過去是市議員嘛,這個院長知道,我們長期在關心教育,我在教委會,像我們的營養午餐,學校辦理有很嚴謹的程序,光是那個標準的SOP,\n\n28\n00:09:57,344 --> 00:09:57,364\n吳沛憶議員\n\n29\n00:10:12,521 --> 00:10:14,602\n現在的要求是明年度的新的實施如果沒有像做到剛剛委員所說的\n\n30\n00:10:39,429 --> 00:10:49,541\n地方政府學校透過團善或透過更好的機制能夠讓他保存很安全送到班上去的話那明年這個我也不會貿然來同意實施\n\n31\n00:10:50,043 --> 00:11:12,398\n好,謝謝院長,接下來要討論也是教育的問題,是老舊校舍的改建,因為行政院過去是有專案的預算在支持的,但是今年我目前看來是只有一般補助款,那過去我在議會我都在叫委員會,所以我們每一年審預算的時候,我們是一間一間學校的預算在審,這院長非常了解。\n\n32\n00:11:13,098 --> 00:11:32,763\n所以我們目前臺北市的現況來說10年以內臺北市超過50年的老舊校舍就會超過5成也就是過半喔也就是說我們臺北市有一半以上的孩子在10年之內假設我們現在不開始改建的話他們會在50年以上的老舊校舍當中學習\n\n33\n00:11:33,763 --> 00:11:34,543\n一百一十四到一百一八\n\n34\n00:12:00,137 --> 00:12:16,733\n是,那這個計畫未來是不是要送到由行政院來核定呢?是,那我們已經在作業當中了嗎?這個是114年到117年?是,沒錯,就是明年度。那之前我們98到111,\n\n35\n00:12:19,161 --> 00:12:24,084\n三百五十億的老舊校舍改建計劃全國邀請用,那這個預算行政院合定了,接下來這是不是要送到立法院來審查?\n\n36\n00:12:45,674 --> 00:12:48,697\n二十年以後臺北市有八成五以上的孩子都要生活在\n\n37\n00:13:07,815 --> 00:13:07,835\n吳沛憶議員\n\n38\n00:13:28,533 --> 00:13:56,228\n那這個細則我看了一下9月出來的細則裡面就包含了行人友善區行人優先區目的就是因為外媒曾經說我們台北市是行人地獄那一張照片就學童走在很危險的這個道路上是在我們台北市松山區所以我一直非常的關注那我們最近出來的細則行人友善優先區我覺得非常的好所以我收到很多家長打電話來說期待是不是可以從學校周遭先開始來實施\n\n39\n00:13:57,549 --> 00:13:57,569\n吳沛憶議員\n\n40\n00:14:10,578 --> 00:14:27,298\n我們在520之後有制定了這個永續提升人行的安全計畫,其中針對學校周遭的這個校路口,我們預計在年底之前改善200個學校來做目標,那目前已經改善了49處。\n\n41\n00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:45,476\n那未來我們會希望在所以還有兩個多月當中盡量這個危險路口改善的預算計劃非常重要我看到因為我們台北市已經爭取好多但是行人友善區行人優先區行人我們在它是另外一個計劃對我們在期待這個要拜託院長好不好499的路口現在已經改善了435處\n\n42\n00:14:47,017 --> 00:14:49,460\n這些相關的數字可以在我們道安總動員的儀表板上面都會呈現出來\n\n43\n00:15:09,344 --> 00:15:31,963\n好那最後一件事情呢也是希望要請院長來幫忙是臺灣的太空自主因為我們兩年前其實我們曾經有成功發射自製的科研火箭那當時賴清德總統那時候還是副總統他臉書有發文說哇這歷史性的一刻那我們現在臺灣的太空自主我們要持續的來發展我們非常的希望我們能夠拼臺灣的\n\n44\n00:15:54,670 --> 00:15:57,365\n好謝謝吳沛憶委員謝謝左院長及相關部會所長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n15422\t15582\t請卓院長備詢\n27611\t56196\t吳委員好 院長好 剛剛因為前面林倩琦委員有提到台語正名的議題 因為我也是教委會的委員那這個議題呢 在教委會其實經過很多委員充分的討論以及有相當多的民間團體長期在關心 並非沒有討論尤其我也是提案人之一 所以我希望教育部還是要來聆聽民間的聲音 因為我們最重要是希望我們國家的多元族群\n56816\t60839\t臺劇是我們未來的很重要的發展。 院長您就說您休息的時候甚至還看了很多的戲劇。 所以我想人選之人,院長您應該看過吧?\n80118\t91505\t人選之人入圍亞洲內容大獎,其中陳妍霏也拿下亞洲最佳新人獎。 現在我們正在上映的小燕和吳愛麗拿到了韓國釜山國慶電影節評審團大獎。\n95607\t113730\t李遠部長對媒體說,現在正是臺灣電影的最好時機。 所以我想這都是很多人,很多年我們政府給予臺灣的影視,也就是我們現在講的臺流,很多的支持所展現的成果。\n114531\t138797\t但是除了影視之外音樂尤其是臺灣的流行音樂文化我想這也是我們臺灣非常非常強有潛力的產業尤其除了產業以外像我自己我個人從小學開始我們就喜歡聽流行音樂其實這個音樂的內涵對於我們的人格養成對於我們的思想思考甚至個性我想都有很大的影響所以我認為我們政府絕對\n141411\t163202\t有必要也有責任來支持我們本土音樂的產業。我們看到在我們台灣的音樂發展當中其中嘻哈音樂正在崛起當中我們台灣有非常多很有潛力的嘻哈歌手甚至舉一個例子像熊仔熊信寬我們以前他台大應該算是我學弟\n163982\t188396\t他在我們的金曲獎當中是在各個類型的音樂當中脫穎而出,拿下了金曲獎最佳華語專輯,這是一個很高的殊榮肯定。那像我們賴清德總統就職的時候,也找來了客家歌手王宗維,台語歌手柯瀟來演出,過去總統府的音樂會曾經也邀請過阿夸麵。\n189717\t209955\t院長、部長、我想你們應該都認識阿誇麵,他就是在臺灣自製的嘻哈選秀節目大嘻哈時代第二季脫穎而出的冠軍。所以說用嘻哈這個音樂的類型來唱出我們臺灣本土的故事,或者是歌手個人的思想,\n210987\t237282\t的發揮這個已經是展現出非常大的才華那我作為一個大嘻哈時代的粉絲其實因為我們在IG上面看到說第三季即將也要再上映了所以呢我也希望說我們的院長是不是可以跟我一起來努力我們一起來承諾說我們政府要可以給臺灣的流行音樂產業更強力的支持\n239148\t256406\t謝謝委員 我真的應該跟委員多多學習因為我們這個年紀我們的旋律的能力都比不上這個節拍啦所以我們要努力去學習這麼快的變速而且它的很多在唱的過程當中語言的表達能力非常非常的強\n256966\t259450\t前幾天在高雄打狗雞,滅火器主唱楊大正跟歌迷分享一段對話。\n272048\t295921\t他就說因為現在臺灣有些歌手如果要進入中國市場的話必須要有些政治表態那很多歌迷可能因此就很傷心那大陣就跟歌迷說如果你很傷心你可以選擇離開但你不要出征那臺灣路線不是一條好走的路所以我不能要求每一個歌手藝人都要走這條路\n296801\t317357\t但是呢,作為歌迷傷心可以離開,作為政府我想我們不能離開。臺灣路線當然不是一條好走的路,我們政府有責任,把這條路鋪得更加的安穩。我非常的希望說院長能夠承諾,我們能夠給臺灣的音樂產業更多的支持,好不好?\n320606\t341964\t大嘻哈時代在參加軍中獎的時候我當時是評審我也給他最佳音樂獎跟創新獎大嘻哈時代所帶領的新的這些選手給我一個很大的震撼就是臺灣要發展出自己的音樂嘻哈是一個非常好的類別因為他是\n342244\t342664\t臺語、客語、原住民語\n356624\t382191\t有些人因為市場去了中國大陸以後我覺得他會受限制因為中國大陸市場不太可能被大家用這麼諷刺的語言批判所以我在這裡跟委員保證除了大嘻哈時代這種節目之外我們會繼續努力推出一些音樂劇甚至於到國際上去辦這種音樂劇把這個大嘻哈這種東西成為我們台灣音樂的一個特色\n383573\t389733\t是,這個在大政對革命的呼籲當中,其中關鍵,我想院長也很清楚,就在於市場。\n391065\t393207\t其實我們做的研究,像馬來西亞它的定期會有嘻哈的那個表演,我們會尋找\n419566\t422048\t文化也是我們新南向政策,非常重要的一環,是不是可以請院長來大力支持?\n438285\t438305\t吳沛憶議員\n454628\t471345\t那當初叫做斑斑有鮮奶,現在實際上以臺北市來說,因為各校要勾選一院嘛,有九成的學校都選擇保九乳,所以目前現況是叫做斑斑保九乳。那我想不知道院長有沒有相關的了解,我們是不是可以做得更周全一點?\n472076\t497027\t沒有錯,在提供給地方政府跟學校來選擇的過程當中,現在有75%都選擇了飽酒乳。事實上它也可以適度的增加學童在鈣吸收方面的營養,但是我覺得我完全贊成委員所說的,在推出的時候可能私律上還有所欠缺,所以我們這一次是訂了三個月的短約,到今年年底,那明年的我已經\n498237\t522664\t速度要求農業部跟教育部都要從長計議要設計一個完全可行不要增加學校負擔而且地方政府也能夠配合同時運送過程當中也能保證他的安全進到教室裡面去不增加教職人員跟學生太多負擔的狀況底下我們才可以實施那至於說目前已經在契約當中的\n523524\t540935\t我還是可以檢討啦,我覺得我的用意可能在於說,如果學校真的有困難,地方政府也沒有辦法有強力的配合的話,那是不是我們不要太強制,但是已經在上路的這些學校,我們還是盡量的保持最好的狀況來提供給他們。\n542156\t568909\t那當中還有沒有什麼可以補救的措施希望教育部能夠提出但是這個時間非常有限因為只有剩下兩個多月的時間做那個補救可能時間上都很緩所以應該是兩個一個是已經上路的持續的往更好的方向去走但是有困難的有質疑的有能力還沒有辦法搭配上來的那我們不要做任何的強制但這樣可能對小朋友的選擇來講會有一些失落但是我們明年從長計一來做處理\n570618\t596864\t是,為什麼一定要在這個總結的時候提出來呢?因為我想我們絕對是有能力做更周旋的考慮,因為我覺得你們做得好,我們一定給肯定,但是該檢討我們還是要正式問題來檢討。像過去,因為我在過去是市議員嘛,這個院長知道,我們長期在關心教育,我在教委會,像我們的營養午餐,學校辦理有很嚴謹的程序,光是那個標準的SOP,\n597344\t597364\t吳沛憶議員\n612521\t614602\t現在的要求是明年度的新的實施如果沒有像做到剛剛委員所說的\n639429\t649541\t地方政府學校透過團善或透過更好的機制能夠讓他保存很安全送到班上去的話那明年這個我也不會貿然來同意實施\n650043\t672398\t好,謝謝院長,接下來要討論也是教育的問題,是老舊校舍的改建,因為行政院過去是有專案的預算在支持的,但是今年我目前看來是只有一般補助款,那過去我在議會我都在叫委員會,所以我們每一年審預算的時候,我們是一間一間學校的預算在審,這院長非常了解。\n673098\t692763\t所以我們目前臺北市的現況來說10年以內臺北市超過50年的老舊校舍就會超過5成也就是過半喔也就是說我們臺北市有一半以上的孩子在10年之內假設我們現在不開始改建的話他們會在50年以上的老舊校舍當中學習\n693763\t694543\t一百一十四到一百一八\n720137\t736733\t是,那這個計畫未來是不是要送到由行政院來核定呢?是,那我們已經在作業當中了嗎?這個是114年到117年?是,沒錯,就是明年度。那之前我們98到111,\n739161\t744084\t三百五十億的老舊校舍改建計劃全國邀請用,那這個預算行政院合定了,接下來這是不是要送到立法院來審查?\n765674\t768697\t二十年以後臺北市有八成五以上的孩子都要生活在\n787815\t787835\t吳沛憶議員\n808533\t836228\t那這個細則我看了一下9月出來的細則裡面就包含了行人友善區行人優先區目的就是因為外媒曾經說我們台北市是行人地獄那一張照片就學童走在很危險的這個道路上是在我們台北市松山區所以我一直非常的關注那我們最近出來的細則行人友善優先區我覺得非常的好所以我收到很多家長打電話來說期待是不是可以從學校周遭先開始來實施\n837549\t837569\t吳沛憶議員\n850578\t867298\t我們在520之後有制定了這個永續提升人行的安全計畫,其中針對學校周遭的這個校路口,我們預計在年底之前改善200個學校來做目標,那目前已經改善了49處。\n868760\t885476\t那未來我們會希望在所以還有兩個多月當中盡量 這個危險路口改善的預算計劃非常重要我看到因為我們台北市已經爭取好多但是行人友善區行人優先區行人我們在 它是另外一個計劃對我們在期待這個要拜託院長好不好 499的路口現在已經改善了435處\n887017\t889460\t這些相關的數字可以在我們道安總動員的儀表板上面都會呈現出來\n909344\t931963\t好那最後一件事情呢也是希望要請院長來幫忙是臺灣的太空自主因為我們兩年前其實我們曾經有成功發射自製的科研火箭那當時賴清德總統那時候還是副總統他臉書有發文說哇這歷史性的一刻那我們現在臺灣的太空自主我們要持續的來發展我們非常的希望我們能夠拼臺灣的\n954670\t957365\t好 謝謝吳沛憶委員 謝謝左院長及相關部會所長\n","txt":"請卓院長備詢\n吳委員好 院長好 剛剛因為前面林倩琦委員有提到台語正名的議題 因為我也是教委會的委員那這個議題呢 在教委會其實經過很多委員充分的討論以及有相當多的民間團體長期在關心 並非沒有討論尤其我也是提案人之一 所以我希望教育部還是要來聆聽民間的聲音 因為我們最重要是希望我們國家的多元族群\n臺劇是我們未來的很重要的發展。 院長您就說您休息的時候甚至還看了很多的戲劇。 所以我想人選之人,院長您應該看過吧?\n人選之人入圍亞洲內容大獎,其中陳妍霏也拿下亞洲最佳新人獎。 現在我們正在上映的小燕和吳愛麗拿到了韓國釜山國慶電影節評審團大獎。\n李遠部長對媒體說,現在正是臺灣電影的最好時機。 所以我想這都是很多人,很多年我們政府給予臺灣的影視,也就是我們現在講的臺流,很多的支持所展現的成果。\n但是除了影視之外音樂尤其是臺灣的流行音樂文化我想這也是我們臺灣非常非常強有潛力的產業尤其除了產業以外像我自己我個人從小學開始我們就喜歡聽流行音樂其實這個音樂的內涵對於我們的人格養成對於我們的思想思考甚至個性我想都有很大的影響所以我認為我們政府絕對\n有必要也有責任來支持我們本土音樂的產業。我們看到在我們台灣的音樂發展當中其中嘻哈音樂正在崛起當中我們台灣有非常多很有潛力的嘻哈歌手甚至舉一個例子像熊仔熊信寬我們以前他台大應該算是我學弟\n他在我們的金曲獎當中是在各個類型的音樂當中脫穎而出,拿下了金曲獎最佳華語專輯,這是一個很高的殊榮肯定。那像我們賴清德總統就職的時候,也找來了客家歌手王宗維,台語歌手柯瀟來演出,過去總統府的音樂會曾經也邀請過阿夸麵。\n院長、部長、我想你們應該都認識阿誇麵,他就是在臺灣自製的嘻哈選秀節目大嘻哈時代第二季脫穎而出的冠軍。所以說用嘻哈這個音樂的類型來唱出我們臺灣本土的故事,或者是歌手個人的思想,\n的發揮這個已經是展現出非常大的才華那我作為一個大嘻哈時代的粉絲其實因為我們在IG上面看到說第三季即將也要再上映了所以呢我也希望說我們的院長是不是可以跟我一起來努力我們一起來承諾說我們政府要可以給臺灣的流行音樂產業更強力的支持\n謝謝委員 我真的應該跟委員多多學習因為我們這個年紀我們的旋律的能力都比不上這個節拍啦所以我們要努力去學習這麼快的變速而且它的很多在唱的過程當中語言的表達能力非常非常的強\n前幾天在高雄打狗雞,滅火器主唱楊大正跟歌迷分享一段對話。\n他就說因為現在臺灣有些歌手如果要進入中國市場的話必須要有些政治表態那很多歌迷可能因此就很傷心那大陣就跟歌迷說如果你很傷心你可以選擇離開但你不要出征那臺灣路線不是一條好走的路所以我不能要求每一個歌手藝人都要走這條路\n但是呢,作為歌迷傷心可以離開,作為政府我想我們不能離開。臺灣路線當然不是一條好走的路,我們政府有責任,把這條路鋪得更加的安穩。我非常的希望說院長能夠承諾,我們能夠給臺灣的音樂產業更多的支持,好不好?\n大嘻哈時代在參加軍中獎的時候我當時是評審我也給他最佳音樂獎跟創新獎大嘻哈時代所帶領的新的這些選手給我一個很大的震撼就是臺灣要發展出自己的音樂嘻哈是一個非常好的類別因為他是\n臺語、客語、原住民語\n有些人因為市場去了中國大陸以後我覺得他會受限制因為中國大陸市場不太可能被大家用這麼諷刺的語言批判所以我在這裡跟委員保證除了大嘻哈時代這種節目之外我們會繼續努力推出一些音樂劇甚至於到國際上去辦這種音樂劇把這個大嘻哈這種東西成為我們台灣音樂的一個特色\n是,這個在大政對革命的呼籲當中,其中關鍵,我想院長也很清楚,就在於市場。\n其實我們做的研究,像馬來西亞它的定期會有嘻哈的那個表演,我們會尋找\n文化也是我們新南向政策,非常重要的一環,是不是可以請院長來大力支持?\n吳沛憶議員\n那當初叫做斑斑有鮮奶,現在實際上以臺北市來說,因為各校要勾選一院嘛,有九成的學校都選擇保九乳,所以目前現況是叫做斑斑保九乳。那我想不知道院長有沒有相關的了解,我們是不是可以做得更周全一點?\n沒有錯,在提供給地方政府跟學校來選擇的過程當中,現在有75%都選擇了飽酒乳。事實上它也可以適度的增加學童在鈣吸收方面的營養,但是我覺得我完全贊成委員所說的,在推出的時候可能私律上還有所欠缺,所以我們這一次是訂了三個月的短約,到今年年底,那明年的我已經\n速度要求農業部跟教育部都要從長計議要設計一個完全可行不要增加學校負擔而且地方政府也能夠配合同時運送過程當中也能保證他的安全進到教室裡面去不增加教職人員跟學生太多負擔的狀況底下我們才可以實施那至於說目前已經在契約當中的\n我還是可以檢討啦,我覺得我的用意可能在於說,如果學校真的有困難,地方政府也沒有辦法有強力的配合的話,那是不是我們不要太強制,但是已經在上路的這些學校,我們還是盡量的保持最好的狀況來提供給他們。\n那當中還有沒有什麼可以補救的措施希望教育部能夠提出但是這個時間非常有限因為只有剩下兩個多月的時間做那個補救可能時間上都很緩所以應該是兩個一個是已經上路的持續的往更好的方向去走但是有困難的有質疑的有能力還沒有辦法搭配上來的那我們不要做任何的強制但這樣可能對小朋友的選擇來講會有一些失落但是我們明年從長計一來做處理\n是,為什麼一定要在這個總結的時候提出來呢?因為我想我們絕對是有能力做更周旋的考慮,因為我覺得你們做得好,我們一定給肯定,但是該檢討我們還是要正式問題來檢討。像過去,因為我在過去是市議員嘛,這個院長知道,我們長期在關心教育,我在教委會,像我們的營養午餐,學校辦理有很嚴謹的程序,光是那個標準的SOP,\n吳沛憶議員\n現在的要求是明年度的新的實施如果沒有像做到剛剛委員所說的\n地方政府學校透過團善或透過更好的機制能夠讓他保存很安全送到班上去的話那明年這個我也不會貿然來同意實施\n好,謝謝院長,接下來要討論也是教育的問題,是老舊校舍的改建,因為行政院過去是有專案的預算在支持的,但是今年我目前看來是只有一般補助款,那過去我在議會我都在叫委員會,所以我們每一年審預算的時候,我們是一間一間學校的預算在審,這院長非常了解。\n所以我們目前臺北市的現況來說10年以內臺北市超過50年的老舊校舍就會超過5成也就是過半喔也就是說我們臺北市有一半以上的孩子在10年之內假設我們現在不開始改建的話他們會在50年以上的老舊校舍當中學習\n一百一十四到一百一八\n是,那這個計畫未來是不是要送到由行政院來核定呢?是,那我們已經在作業當中了嗎?這個是114年到117年?是,沒錯,就是明年度。那之前我們98到111,\n三百五十億的老舊校舍改建計劃全國邀請用,那這個預算行政院合定了,接下來這是不是要送到立法院來審查?\n二十年以後臺北市有八成五以上的孩子都要生活在\n吳沛憶議員\n那這個細則我看了一下9月出來的細則裡面就包含了行人友善區行人優先區目的就是因為外媒曾經說我們台北市是行人地獄那一張照片就學童走在很危險的這個道路上是在我們台北市松山區所以我一直非常的關注那我們最近出來的細則行人友善優先區我覺得非常的好所以我收到很多家長打電話來說期待是不是可以從學校周遭先開始來實施\n吳沛憶議員\n我們在520之後有制定了這個永續提升人行的安全計畫,其中針對學校周遭的這個校路口,我們預計在年底之前改善200個學校來做目標,那目前已經改善了49處。\n那未來我們會希望在所以還有兩個多月當中盡量 這個危險路口改善的預算計劃非常重要我看到因為我們台北市已經爭取好多但是行人友善區行人優先區行人我們在 它是另外一個計劃對我們在期待這個要拜託院長好不好 499的路口現在已經改善了435處\n這些相關的數字可以在我們道安總動員的儀表板上面都會呈現出來\n好那最後一件事情呢也是希望要請院長來幫忙是臺灣的太空自主因為我們兩年前其實我們曾經有成功發射自製的科研火箭那當時賴清德總統那時候還是副總統他臉書有發文說哇這歷史性的一刻那我們現在臺灣的太空自主我們要持續的來發展我們非常的希望我們能夠拼臺灣的\n好 謝謝吳沛憶委員 謝謝左院長及相關部會所長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:15.422 --> 00:15.582\n請卓院長備詢\n\n00:27.611 --> 00:56.196\n吳委員好院長好剛剛因為前面林倩琦委員有提到台語正名的議題因為我也是教委會的委員那這個議題呢在教委會其實經過很多委員充分的討論以及有相當多的民間團體長期在關心並非沒有討論尤其我也是提案人之一所以我希望教育部還是要來聆聽民間的聲音因為我們最重要是希望我們國家的多元族群\n\n00:56.816 --> 01:00.839\n臺劇是我們未來的很重要的發展。院長您就說您休息的時候甚至還看了很多的戲劇。所以我想人選之人,院長您應該看過吧?\n\n01:20.118 --> 01:31.505\n人選之人入圍亞洲內容大獎,其中陳妍霏也拿下亞洲最佳新人獎。現在我們正在上映的小燕和吳愛麗拿到了韓國釜山國慶電影節評審團大獎。\n\n01:35.607 --> 01:53.730\n李遠部長對媒體說,現在正是臺灣電影的最好時機。所以我想這都是很多人,很多年我們政府給予臺灣的影視,也就是我們現在講的臺流,很多的支持所展現的成果。\n\n01:54.531 --> 02:18.797\n但是除了影視之外音樂尤其是臺灣的流行音樂文化我想這也是我們臺灣非常非常強有潛力的產業尤其除了產業以外像我自己我個人從小學開始我們就喜歡聽流行音樂其實這個音樂的內涵對於我們的人格養成對於我們的思想思考甚至個性我想都有很大的影響所以我認為我們政府絕對\n\n02:21.411 --> 02:43.202\n有必要也有責任來支持我們本土音樂的產業。我們看到在我們台灣的音樂發展當中其中嘻哈音樂正在崛起當中我們台灣有非常多很有潛力的嘻哈歌手甚至舉一個例子像熊仔熊信寬我們以前他台大應該算是我學弟\n\n02:43.982 --> 03:08.396\n他在我們的金曲獎當中是在各個類型的音樂當中脫穎而出,拿下了金曲獎最佳華語專輯,這是一個很高的殊榮肯定。那像我們賴清德總統就職的時候,也找來了客家歌手王宗維,台語歌手柯瀟來演出,過去總統府的音樂會曾經也邀請過阿夸麵。\n\n03:09.717 --> 03:29.955\n院長、部長、我想你們應該都認識阿誇麵,他就是在臺灣自製的嘻哈選秀節目大嘻哈時代第二季脫穎而出的冠軍。所以說用嘻哈這個音樂的類型來唱出我們臺灣本土的故事,或者是歌手個人的思想,\n\n03:30.987 --> 03:57.282\n的發揮這個已經是展現出非常大的才華那我作為一個大嘻哈時代的粉絲其實因為我們在IG上面看到說第三季即將也要再上映了所以呢我也希望說我們的院長是不是可以跟我一起來努力我們一起來承諾說我們政府要可以給臺灣的流行音樂產業更強力的支持\n\n03:59.148 --> 04:16.406\n謝謝委員我真的應該跟委員多多學習因為我們這個年紀我們的旋律的能力都比不上這個節拍啦所以我們要努力去學習這麼快的變速而且它的很多在唱的過程當中語言的表達能力非常非常的強\n\n04:16.966 --> 04:19.450\n前幾天在高雄打狗雞,滅火器主唱楊大正跟歌迷分享一段對話。\n\n04:32.048 --> 04:55.921\n他就說因為現在臺灣有些歌手如果要進入中國市場的話必須要有些政治表態那很多歌迷可能因此就很傷心那大陣就跟歌迷說如果你很傷心你可以選擇離開但你不要出征那臺灣路線不是一條好走的路所以我不能要求每一個歌手藝人都要走這條路\n\n04:56.801 --> 05:17.357\n但是呢,作為歌迷傷心可以離開,作為政府我想我們不能離開。臺灣路線當然不是一條好走的路,我們政府有責任,把這條路鋪得更加的安穩。我非常的希望說院長能夠承諾,我們能夠給臺灣的音樂產業更多的支持,好不好?\n\n05:20.606 --> 05:41.964\n大嘻哈時代在參加軍中獎的時候我當時是評審我也給他最佳音樂獎跟創新獎大嘻哈時代所帶領的新的這些選手給我一個很大的震撼就是臺灣要發展出自己的音樂嘻哈是一個非常好的類別因為他是\n\n05:42.244 --> 05:42.664\n臺語、客語、原住民語\n\n05:56.624 --> 06:22.191\n有些人因為市場去了中國大陸以後我覺得他會受限制因為中國大陸市場不太可能被大家用這麼諷刺的語言批判所以我在這裡跟委員保證除了大嘻哈時代這種節目之外我們會繼續努力推出一些音樂劇甚至於到國際上去辦這種音樂劇把這個大嘻哈這種東西成為我們台灣音樂的一個特色\n\n06:23.573 --> 06:29.733\n是,這個在大政對革命的呼籲當中,其中關鍵,我想院長也很清楚,就在於市場。\n\n06:31.065 --> 06:33.207\n其實我們做的研究,像馬來西亞它的定期會有嘻哈的那個表演,我們會尋找\n\n06:59.566 --> 07:02.048\n文化也是我們新南向政策,非常重要的一環,是不是可以請院長來大力支持?\n\n07:18.285 --> 07:18.305\n吳沛憶議員\n\n07:34.628 --> 07:51.345\n那當初叫做斑斑有鮮奶,現在實際上以臺北市來說,因為各校要勾選一院嘛,有九成的學校都選擇保九乳,所以目前現況是叫做斑斑保九乳。那我想不知道院長有沒有相關的了解,我們是不是可以做得更周全一點?\n\n07:52.076 --> 08:17.027\n沒有錯,在提供給地方政府跟學校來選擇的過程當中,現在有75%都選擇了飽酒乳。事實上它也可以適度的增加學童在鈣吸收方面的營養,但是我覺得我完全贊成委員所說的,在推出的時候可能私律上還有所欠缺,所以我們這一次是訂了三個月的短約,到今年年底,那明年的我已經\n\n08:18.237 --> 08:42.664\n速度要求農業部跟教育部都要從長計議要設計一個完全可行不要增加學校負擔而且地方政府也能夠配合同時運送過程當中也能保證他的安全進到教室裡面去不增加教職人員跟學生太多負擔的狀況底下我們才可以實施那至於說目前已經在契約當中的\n\n08:43.524 --> 09:00.935\n我還是可以檢討啦,我覺得我的用意可能在於說,如果學校真的有困難,地方政府也沒有辦法有強力的配合的話,那是不是我們不要太強制,但是已經在上路的這些學校,我們還是盡量的保持最好的狀況來提供給他們。\n\n09:02.156 --> 09:28.909\n那當中還有沒有什麼可以補救的措施希望教育部能夠提出但是這個時間非常有限因為只有剩下兩個多月的時間做那個補救可能時間上都很緩所以應該是兩個一個是已經上路的持續的往更好的方向去走但是有困難的有質疑的有能力還沒有辦法搭配上來的那我們不要做任何的強制但這樣可能對小朋友的選擇來講會有一些失落但是我們明年從長計一來做處理\n\n09:30.618 --> 09:56.864\n是,為什麼一定要在這個總結的時候提出來呢?因為我想我們絕對是有能力做更周旋的考慮,因為我覺得你們做得好,我們一定給肯定,但是該檢討我們還是要正式問題來檢討。像過去,因為我在過去是市議員嘛,這個院長知道,我們長期在關心教育,我在教委會,像我們的營養午餐,學校辦理有很嚴謹的程序,光是那個標準的SOP,\n\n09:57.344 --> 09:57.364\n吳沛憶議員\n\n10:12.521 --> 10:14.602\n現在的要求是明年度的新的實施如果沒有像做到剛剛委員所說的\n\n10:39.429 --> 10:49.541\n地方政府學校透過團善或透過更好的機制能夠讓他保存很安全送到班上去的話那明年這個我也不會貿然來同意實施\n\n10:50.043 --> 11:12.398\n好,謝謝院長,接下來要討論也是教育的問題,是老舊校舍的改建,因為行政院過去是有專案的預算在支持的,但是今年我目前看來是只有一般補助款,那過去我在議會我都在叫委員會,所以我們每一年審預算的時候,我們是一間一間學校的預算在審,這院長非常了解。\n\n11:13.098 --> 11:32.763\n所以我們目前臺北市的現況來說10年以內臺北市超過50年的老舊校舍就會超過5成也就是過半喔也就是說我們臺北市有一半以上的孩子在10年之內假設我們現在不開始改建的話他們會在50年以上的老舊校舍當中學習\n\n11:33.763 --> 11:34.543\n一百一十四到一百一八\n\n12:00.137 --> 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所以我想這都是很多人,很多年我們政府給予臺灣的影視,也就是我們現在講的臺流,很多的支持所展現的成果。"},{"start":114.531,"end":138.797,"text":"但是除了影視之外音樂尤其是臺灣的流行音樂文化我想這也是我們臺灣非常非常強有潛力的產業尤其除了產業以外像我自己我個人從小學開始我們就喜歡聽流行音樂其實這個音樂的內涵對於我們的人格養成對於我們的思想思考甚至個性我想都有很大的影響所以我認為我們政府絕對"},{"start":141.411,"end":163.202,"text":"有必要也有責任來支持我們本土音樂的產業。我們看到在我們台灣的音樂發展當中其中嘻哈音樂正在崛起當中我們台灣有非常多很有潛力的嘻哈歌手甚至舉一個例子像熊仔熊信寬我們以前他台大應該算是我學弟"},{"start":163.982,"end":188.396,"text":"他在我們的金曲獎當中是在各個類型的音樂當中脫穎而出,拿下了金曲獎最佳華語專輯,這是一個很高的殊榮肯定。那像我們賴清德總統就職的時候,也找來了客家歌手王宗維,台語歌手柯瀟來演出,過去總統府的音樂會曾經也邀請過阿夸麵。"},{"start":189.717,"end":209.955,"text":"院長、部長、我想你們應該都認識阿誇麵,他就是在臺灣自製的嘻哈選秀節目大嘻哈時代第二季脫穎而出的冠軍。所以說用嘻哈這個音樂的類型來唱出我們臺灣本土的故事,或者是歌手個人的思想,"},{"start":210.987,"end":237.282,"text":"的發揮這個已經是展現出非常大的才華那我作為一個大嘻哈時代的粉絲其實因為我們在IG上面看到說第三季即將也要再上映了所以呢我也希望說我們的院長是不是可以跟我一起來努力我們一起來承諾說我們政府要可以給臺灣的流行音樂產業更強力的支持"},{"start":239.148,"end":256.406,"text":"謝謝委員 我真的應該跟委員多多學習因為我們這個年紀我們的旋律的能力都比不上這個節拍啦所以我們要努力去學習這麼快的變速而且它的很多在唱的過程當中語言的表達能力非常非常的強"},{"start":256.966,"end":259.45,"text":"前幾天在高雄打狗雞,滅火器主唱楊大正跟歌迷分享一段對話。"},{"start":272.048,"end":295.921,"text":"他就說因為現在臺灣有些歌手如果要進入中國市場的話必須要有些政治表態那很多歌迷可能因此就很傷心那大陣就跟歌迷說如果你很傷心你可以選擇離開但你不要出征那臺灣路線不是一條好走的路所以我不能要求每一個歌手藝人都要走這條路"},{"start":296.801,"end":317.357,"text":"但是呢,作為歌迷傷心可以離開,作為政府我想我們不能離開。臺灣路線當然不是一條好走的路,我們政府有責任,把這條路鋪得更加的安穩。我非常的希望說院長能夠承諾,我們能夠給臺灣的音樂產業更多的支持,好不好?"},{"start":320.606,"end":341.964,"text":"大嘻哈時代在參加軍中獎的時候我當時是評審我也給他最佳音樂獎跟創新獎大嘻哈時代所帶領的新的這些選手給我一個很大的震撼就是臺灣要發展出自己的音樂嘻哈是一個非常好的類別因為他是"},{"start":342.244,"end":342.664,"text":"臺語、客語、原住民語"},{"start":356.624,"end":382.191,"text":"有些人因為市場去了中國大陸以後我覺得他會受限制因為中國大陸市場不太可能被大家用這麼諷刺的語言批判所以我在這裡跟委員保證除了大嘻哈時代這種節目之外我們會繼續努力推出一些音樂劇甚至於到國際上去辦這種音樂劇把這個大嘻哈這種東西成為我們台灣音樂的一個特色"},{"start":383.573,"end":389.733,"text":"是,這個在大政對革命的呼籲當中,其中關鍵,我想院長也很清楚,就在於市場。"},{"start":391.065,"end":393.207,"text":"其實我們做的研究,像馬來西亞它的定期會有嘻哈的那個表演,我們會尋找"},{"start":419.566,"end":422.048,"text":"文化也是我們新南向政策,非常重要的一環,是不是可以請院長來大力支持?"},{"start":438.285,"end":438.305,"text":"吳沛憶議員"},{"start":454.628,"end":471.345,"text":"那當初叫做斑斑有鮮奶,現在實際上以臺北市來說,因為各校要勾選一院嘛,有九成的學校都選擇保九乳,所以目前現況是叫做斑斑保九乳。那我想不知道院長有沒有相關的了解,我們是不是可以做得更周全一點?"},{"start":472.076,"end":497.027,"text":"沒有錯,在提供給地方政府跟學校來選擇的過程當中,現在有75%都選擇了飽酒乳。事實上它也可以適度的增加學童在鈣吸收方面的營養,但是我覺得我完全贊成委員所說的,在推出的時候可能私律上還有所欠缺,所以我們這一次是訂了三個月的短約,到今年年底,那明年的我已經"},{"start":498.237,"end":522.664,"text":"速度要求農業部跟教育部都要從長計議要設計一個完全可行不要增加學校負擔而且地方政府也能夠配合同時運送過程當中也能保證他的安全進到教室裡面去不增加教職人員跟學生太多負擔的狀況底下我們才可以實施那至於說目前已經在契約當中的"},{"start":523.524,"end":540.935,"text":"我還是可以檢討啦,我覺得我的用意可能在於說,如果學校真的有困難,地方政府也沒有辦法有強力的配合的話,那是不是我們不要太強制,但是已經在上路的這些學校,我們還是盡量的保持最好的狀況來提供給他們。"},{"start":542.156,"end":568.909,"text":"那當中還有沒有什麼可以補救的措施希望教育部能夠提出但是這個時間非常有限因為只有剩下兩個多月的時間做那個補救可能時間上都很緩所以應該是兩個一個是已經上路的持續的往更好的方向去走但是有困難的有質疑的有能力還沒有辦法搭配上來的那我們不要做任何的強制但這樣可能對小朋友的選擇來講會有一些失落但是我們明年從長計一來做處理"},{"start":570.618,"end":596.864,"text":"是,為什麼一定要在這個總結的時候提出來呢?因為我想我們絕對是有能力做更周旋的考慮,因為我覺得你們做得好,我們一定給肯定,但是該檢討我們還是要正式問題來檢討。像過去,因為我在過去是市議員嘛,這個院長知道,我們長期在關心教育,我在教委會,像我們的營養午餐,學校辦理有很嚴謹的程序,光是那個標準的SOP,"},{"start":597.344,"end":597.364,"text":"吳沛憶議員"},{"start":612.521,"end":614.602,"text":"現在的要求是明年度的新的實施如果沒有像做到剛剛委員所說的"},{"start":639.429,"end":649.541,"text":"地方政府學校透過團善或透過更好的機制能夠讓他保存很安全送到班上去的話那明年這個我也不會貿然來同意實施"},{"start":650.043,"end":672.398,"text":"好,謝謝院長,接下來要討論也是教育的問題,是老舊校舍的改建,因為行政院過去是有專案的預算在支持的,但是今年我目前看來是只有一般補助款,那過去我在議會我都在叫委員會,所以我們每一年審預算的時候,我們是一間一間學校的預算在審,這院長非常了解。"},{"start":673.098,"end":692.763,"text":"所以我們目前臺北市的現況來說10年以內臺北市超過50年的老舊校舍就會超過5成也就是過半喔也就是說我們臺北市有一半以上的孩子在10年之內假設我們現在不開始改建的話他們會在50年以上的老舊校舍當中學習"},{"start":693.763,"end":694.543,"text":"一百一十四到一百一八"},{"start":720.137,"end":736.733,"text":"是,那這個計畫未來是不是要送到由行政院來核定呢?是,那我們已經在作業當中了嗎?這個是114年到117年?是,沒錯,就是明年度。那之前我們98到111,"},{"start":739.161,"end":744.084,"text":"三百五十億的老舊校舍改建計劃全國邀請用,那這個預算行政院合定了,接下來這是不是要送到立法院來審查?"},{"start":765.674,"end":768.697,"text":"二十年以後臺北市有八成五以上的孩子都要生活在"},{"start":787.815,"end":787.835,"text":"吳沛憶議員"},{"start":808.533,"end":836.228,"text":"那這個細則我看了一下9月出來的細則裡面就包含了行人友善區行人優先區目的就是因為外媒曾經說我們台北市是行人地獄那一張照片就學童走在很危險的這個道路上是在我們台北市松山區所以我一直非常的關注那我們最近出來的細則行人友善優先區我覺得非常的好所以我收到很多家長打電話來說期待是不是可以從學校周遭先開始來實施"},{"start":837.549,"end":837.569,"text":"吳沛憶議員"},{"start":850.578,"end":867.298,"text":"我們在520之後有制定了這個永續提升人行的安全計畫,其中針對學校周遭的這個校路口,我們預計在年底之前改善200個學校來做目標,那目前已經改善了49處。"},{"start":868.76,"end":885.476,"text":"那未來我們會希望在所以還有兩個多月當中盡量 這個危險路口改善的預算計劃非常重要我看到因為我們台北市已經爭取好多但是行人友善區行人優先區行人我們在 它是另外一個計劃對我們在期待這個要拜託院長好不好 499的路口現在已經改善了435處"},{"start":887.017,"end":889.46,"text":"這些相關的數字可以在我們道安總動員的儀表板上面都會呈現出來"},{"start":909.344,"end":931.963,"text":"好那最後一件事情呢也是希望要請院長來幫忙是臺灣的太空自主因為我們兩年前其實我們曾經有成功發射自製的科研火箭那當時賴清德總統那時候還是副總統他臉書有發文說哇這歷史性的一刻那我們現在臺灣的太空自主我們要持續的來發展我們非常的希望我們能夠拼臺灣的"},{"start":954.67,"end":957.365,"text":"好 謝謝吳沛憶委員 謝謝左院長及相關部會所長"}]}}},"meet":{"sessionPeriod":2,"sessionTimes":4,"tmpMeeting":null,"term":11,"id":"院會-11-2-4","title":"第11屆第2會期第4次會議","type":"院會"},"會議時間":"2024-10-15T09:00:00+08:00","委員發言時間":"15:35:32 - 15:51:30","會議名稱":"第11屆第2會期第4次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。 二、10月11日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。 三、10月15日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。）","id":155489,"gazette":{"lineno":196,"blocks":[["吳委員沛憶：（15時35分）謝謝院長，我請行政院卓榮泰院長。"],["主席：麻煩請卓院長再次備詢。"],["卓院長榮泰：委員好。"],["吳委員沛憶：院長好。剛剛林倩綺委員有提到台語正名的議題，因為我也是教委會的委員，這個議題在教委會其實經過很多委員充分的討論，以及有相當多的民間團體長期在關心，並非沒有討論，尤其我也是提案人之一，所以我希望教育部還是要聆聽民間的聲音，最重要的是希望我們國家多元族群使用的自然語都能夠平等的被國家看待。","接下來第一個議題我主要要跟院長討論的是，剛剛前面文化部李遠部長也有講過臺劇是我們未來很重要的發展，院長您就說您休息的時候甚至還看了很多的戲劇，所以我想「人選之人」院長您應該看過吧！"],["卓院長榮泰：看過。"],["吳委員沛憶：「人選之人」入圍了亞洲內容大獎，其中陳妍霏也拿下亞洲最佳新人獎；現在正在上映的「小雁與吳愛麗」拿到韓國釜山國際電影節評審團大獎，李遠部長對媒體說：現在正是臺灣電影的最好時機。我想這都是很多人、很多年我們政府給予臺灣的影視音，也就是我們現在講的台流很多的支持所展現的成果。除了影視之外，還有音樂，尤其是臺灣的流行音樂文化，我想這也是臺灣非常非常強、有潛力的產業，除了是一項產業以外，像我個人從小學開始就喜歡聽流行音樂，其實音樂的內涵對於我們的人格養成、對我們的思想、思考、甚至個性，我想都有很大的影響，所以我認為政府絕對有必要、也有責任來支持我們本土音樂的產業。","我們看到在臺灣的音樂發展當中，其中嘻哈音樂正在崛起，臺灣有非常多很有潛力的嘻哈歌手，我舉一個例子，像熊仔（熊信寬），他應該算是我臺大的學弟，他在金曲獎當中，是在各個類型的音樂當中脫穎而出，拿下了金曲獎最佳華語專輯，這是一個很高的殊榮肯定。像賴清德總統就職的時候，也找來了客家歌手王鍾惟、台語歌手KE柯蕭來演出，過去總統府的音樂會曾經也邀請過阿跨面，院長，我想你們應該都認識阿跨面，他就是在臺灣自製的嘻哈選秀節目「大嘻哈時代」第二季脫穎而出的冠軍，所以說用嘻哈這個音樂類型唱出我們臺灣本土的故事，或者是歌手個人思想的發揮，這個已經是展現出非常大的才華。我作為一個大嘻哈時代的粉絲，因為我們在IG上面看到第三季即將要上映了，所以我也希望我們的院長是不是可以跟我一起來努力，我們一起來承諾說政府可以給臺灣的流行音樂產業更強力的支持。"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員，我真的應該跟委員多多學習，因為我們這個年紀，我們旋律的能力都比不上這個節拍，所以我們要努力去學習，這麼快的變速，而且很多在唱的過程當中，語言的表達能力非常、非常地強，又帶動很多的動感，在我們現在來看，對我們都有點吃力，但是聽起來都很振奮人心，我願意這樣來學習。"],["吳委員沛憶：是，院長，我跟你分享一個故事。前幾天在高雄的打狗祭，滅火器主唱楊大正跟歌迷分享一段對話，他就說因為現在臺灣有些歌手如果要進入中國市場的話，必須要有些政治表態，很多的歌迷可能因此就很傷心，大正就跟歌迷說：如果你很傷心，你可以選擇離開，但你不要出征，臺灣路線不是一條好走的路，所以我不能要求每一個歌手、藝人都要走這條路。","作為歌迷，覺得傷心可以離開；但是作為政府，我想我們不能離開。臺灣路線當然不是一條好走的路，我們政府有責任把這條路鋪得更加地安穩。我非常地希望院長能夠承諾我們能夠給臺灣的音樂產業更多的支持，好不好？"],["李部長遠：我可不可以答一下？"],["吳委員沛憶：是。"],["李部長遠：因為大嘻哈時代在參加金鐘獎的時候，我當時是評審，我也給它最佳音樂獎及創新獎。大嘻哈時代所帶領的這些新選手給我一個很大的震撼，就是臺灣要發展出自己的音樂，嘻哈是一個非常好的類別，因為它充滿了反叛及諷刺，只有在臺灣這種自由民主之下，他可以唱出一些非常批判的歌詞，而且後來發展出很多語言──台語、客語、原住民語。有些人因為市場，去了中國大陸以後，我覺得他會受限制，因為中國大陸市場不太可能被大家用這麼諷刺的語言批判。所以我在這裡跟委員保證，除了大嘻哈時代這種節目之外，我們會繼續努力推出一些音樂季，甚至於到國際上去辦這種音樂季，把大嘻哈這種東西成為我們臺灣音樂的特色。"],["吳委員沛憶：在大正對歌迷的呼籲當中，其中的關鍵，我想院長也很清楚，就在於市場。如果你很傷心，大正一直說，我們去關心的是我們臺灣音樂的未來在哪裡，就是我們要走進live house、我們要去聽音樂。所以除了臺灣的市場以外，針對我們臺灣本土的歌手，文化部是不是有相關的計畫，帶著他們例如到東南亞的市場來演出表演……"],["李部長遠：有、有。"],["吳委員沛憶：有沒有相關的規劃？"],["李部長遠：其實我們做了研究，像馬來西亞定期會有嘻哈劇的表演，我們會尋找可以讓我們擺進去臺灣歌手的那些國際音樂會，然後我們也會推廣我們自己，試著像打狗祭一樣，我們自己來辦，這個都在我們計畫中，而且很快就會實現。"],["吳委員沛憶：好的，所以文化也是我們新南向政策非常重要的一環，是不是可以請院長大力支持？"],["卓院長榮泰：好的，謝謝，跟委員學習，一起來。"],["吳委員沛憶：謝謝，部長請回。接下來我想請教院長的是，現在農業部及教育部新推出班班有鮮奶的政策，我先說我個人認為上路太匆促，以及沒有提出配套。當初叫做班班有鮮奶，現在實際上以臺北市來說，因為各校要勾選意願，有九成的學校都選擇保久乳，所以目前現況是叫做班班保久乳，不知道院長有沒有相關的了解，我們是不是可以做得更周全一點？"],["卓院長榮泰：沒有錯，在提供給地方政府及學校選擇的過程當中，現在有75%都選擇了保久乳，事實上它也可以適度地增加學童在鈣吸收方面的營養，但是我完全贊成委員所說的，在推出的時候，可能思慮上還有所欠缺。我們這一次是訂了3個月的短約，到今年年底，而明年的部分，我已經數度要求農業部及教育部都要從長計議，要設計一個完全可行，不要增加學校負擔，而且地方政府也能夠配合，同時運送過程當中，也能保證它的安全，進到教室裡面去，不增加教職人員及學生太多負擔的狀況底下，我們才可以實施。至於目前已經在契約當中的，我還是可以檢討，我覺得用意可能在於如果學校真的有困難，地方政府也沒有辦法強力地配合的話，是不是我們不要太強制，但是已經在上路的這些學校，我們還是儘量地保持最好的狀況來提供給他們，當中還有沒有什麼可以補救的措施，希望教育部能夠提出，但是這個時間非常有限，因為只有剩下兩個多月的時間，做任何補救可能時間上都很緩不濟急。所以應該是兩個，一個是已經上路的，持續地往更好的方向去走；但是有困難的、有質疑的，有能力、還沒有辦法搭配上來的，我們不要做任何的強制，雖然這樣可能對小朋友的選擇來講會有些失落，但是我們明年從長計議來做處理。"],["吳委員沛憶：為什麼我一定要在總質詢的時候提出來，因為我們絕對是有能力做更周全的考慮，我覺得你們做得好，我們一定給予肯定，但是該檢討的，我們還是要正視問題並檢討。"],["卓院長榮泰：確實要檢討。"],["吳委員沛憶：像我過去是市議員，這個院長知道，我長期在關心教育，我也在教委會，像學校辦理營養午餐有很嚴謹的程序，光是標準SOP有16項，然後每一項要簽表格確認的就超過30個，包括驗收、配送、衛生管理等等相關的一定都是經過考慮的。所以我想教育部非常有經驗，過去我們在推動國產履歷食材三章一Q的時候，也發生過要配送到偏鄉學校有一些困難，可是你們也都統統克服了，所以我認為你們絕對有能力把它做到更好，也許有一些部會之間橫向溝通聯繫的問題，或者是你們如果對於現場有一些不夠瞭解，我想立委大家都很願意幫忙，我們一起來把它做得更好。"],["卓院長榮泰：我現在的要求是明年度新的實施，如果沒有做到像剛剛委員所說的，地方政府、學校透過團繕或者透過更好的機制，能夠讓它保存很安全送到班上去的話，明年我也不會貿然同意實施。"],["吳委員沛憶：謝謝院長。接下來要討論的也是教育的問題，關於老舊校舍改建，行政院過去是有專案預算在支持，但是今年目前看來是只有一般補助款，過去我在議會都在教文會，所以我們每一年審預算的時候是一間一間學校的預算在審，這院長非常瞭解，以目前臺北市的現況來說，10年以內，臺北市超過50年的老舊校舍就會超過五成，也就是過半，臺北市有一半以上的孩子在10年之內，假設我們現在不開始改建的話，他們會在50年以上的老舊校舍當中學習；如果再不改建，20年內就會有超過八成五以上都是50年以上的老房子。當然，我知道你們有在做一些耐震補強等等的其他措施、作為，但是老舊校舍的改建仍然是刻不容緩，我現在看到教育部已經擬定了一個350億的校舍改建計畫，部長，是不是？"],["卓院長榮泰：114到118年。"],["吳委員沛憶：這個計畫未來是不是要由行政院核定呢？"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["吳委員沛憶：你們已經在作業當中了嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：這個是114年到117年的預算。"],["吳委員沛憶：沒錯，就是明年度。"],["卓院長榮泰：明年開始，我們之前98年到111年也有執行了一千三百多億的預算。"],["吳委員沛憶：沒錯，但是中間像今年度就沒有這個專案。"],["卓院長榮泰：所以我們趕快把它補上來。"],["吳委員沛憶：所以明年度開始，我們就會有專案，院長，這個部分是行政院會來核定？"],["卓院長榮泰：會的。"],["吳委員沛憶：非常感謝，這件事很重要，我更加擔心的是350億的老舊校舍改建計畫，全國要一起用，這個預算行政院核定了，接下來是不是要送到立法院來審查？"],["卓院長榮泰：當然需要大院通過。"],["吳委員沛憶：我真的擔心，所以我在這裡也要拜託在立法院裡面朝野不同的政黨，也拜託院長，孩子的學習環境真的不要因為政治問題而耽擱，如同我剛剛所說的，如果現在不開始改建，20年以後，臺北市有八成五以上的孩子都要在老舊的校舍裡面來學習，這個數字是多少？這是上千棟的學校，所以我希望行政院可以趕快把預算送到立法院來，朝野大家一起來為學生的安全努力。","最後要提的也是學生的安全，但是它的主責機關、法規是上個會期我們通過的行人安全條例，我看了一下這個細則，9月提出來的細則裡面包含行人友善區、行人優先區，目的就是因為外媒曾經說臺北市是行人地獄，那一張學童走在很危險道路上的照片，就是在臺北市松山區，所以我一直非常關注。最近提出來的細則，關於行人友善優先區，我覺得非常好，所以我收到很多家長打電話來說期待，是不是可以從學校周遭先開始實施？可是細則出來到現在不到一個月，我只看到細則，還沒有看到預算，所以我想要請問一下院長，因為法規的主管機關不是教育部，未來我們的預算會怎麼來處理呢？"],["卓院長榮泰：我們在520之後制定的永續提升人行安全計畫，其中針對學校周遭的路口，我們預計在年底之前，朝著改善200個學校作為目標，目前已經改善了49處，還有兩個多月當中儘量……"],["吳委員沛憶：這個危險路口改善的預算計畫非常重要，因為我們臺北市已經爭取好多了，但是行人友善區、行人優先區，它是另外一個計畫，這個要拜託院長，好不好？"],["卓院長榮泰：對！我們在799個路口，現在已經改善了435處。"],["吳委員沛憶：是，就是除了路口以外，行人友善優先區……"],["卓院長榮泰：還有路段。"],["吳委員沛憶：還要再拜託院長。"],["卓院長榮泰：好的。"],["吳委員沛憶：因為我正在盤點中正萬華區，我非常希望臺北市或各縣市，大家都趕快來促成行人優先友善區，讓我們行人有一個比較完整的區塊可以安全來通行，好嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：好，這些相關的數字在我們道安總動員的儀表板上面都會呈現出來。"],["吳委員沛憶：最後一件事情也是要請院長來幫忙，是臺灣的太空自主，因為在兩年前其實我們曾經有成功發射自製的科研火箭，當時賴清德總統，那時候還是副總統，他臉書有發文說：「哇！這是歷史性的一刻。」現在臺灣的太空自主，我們要持續來發展，我們非常希望能夠憑臺灣自製入軌火箭，未來有一天臺灣自己的衛星可以自己載，我希望我們臺灣的自主火箭再繼續努力，可不可以拜託院長？"],["卓院長榮泰：「競逐太空，探索海洋」也是總統的政見，我們編列的預算雖然不多，但是我們已開始做這樣的起步。"],["吳委員沛憶：好，謝謝院長及部長。"],["主席：謝謝吳沛憶委員，謝謝卓院長及相關部會首長的備詢。","接下來登記第12號、第13號羅美玲委員及黃捷委員之質詢均以書面提出，請行政院書面答復，並列入紀錄，刊登公報。"],["委員羅美玲書面質詢：","教育及文化組","一、鑒於如何精進故宮語音導覽、官方網站多種語文服務，特向行政院提出質詢。","根據2023年統計數據顯示，日本、韓國來台旅客為單一國家的前兩名；馬來西亞、新加坡、泰國、菲律賓、越南、印尼等東南亞國家也各有20萬至46萬名旅客來台，尤其自我國推動新南向政策後，東南亞國家旅客來台的人數更是成長快速。","搜尋故宮網站，可看到南院故宮官方網站提供華、英、日、韓、越、泰、緬、印尼、西、德、法等11種語言；然而北院故宮網站上僅提供華、英、日、韓四種語言，惟稍嫌不足。","點進故宮網站查找遊客現場導覽資訊，北院故宮提供之成人多媒體語音導覽系統共有華、台、客、英、日、韓、西、法、德、粵、泰、越、印尼、手語、口述影像等15種版本；然而南院故宮提供之成人語音導覽機僅有華語、臺語、客語、英語、日語、韓語等6種版本。","此外，台灣近年逐步推廣多元國家語言文化發展，但根據故宮網站顯示，北院故宮提供之兒童多媒體導覽只華語、英語服務；南院故宮提供之親子語音導覽機更是只有華語服務，不僅缺乏多國語言服務，甚至連本土語言之多元化亦嫌不足。","故宮作為我國在世界知名的博物館，除保存、推廣、研究歷史文物外，亦肩負推展我國觀光、教育之任務，因此貴院不僅應對我們的鄰居更友善持續精進各種語言服務；亦應強化建置本土語言親子語音導覽。並期盼貴院逐步消弭北院及南院提供之語言服務差別，以利行銷故宮保存之文化收藏。","二、鑒於民眾反映教育部應就「新住民跨國銜轉教育」相關資源加強宣傳，並逐步落實於各個縣市有需要之新住民家庭與學生，特向行政院提出質詢。","近年來國內中小學教育現場出現一群新面孔，他們是隨著父母跨國移動或因各種不同因素在父母的原生國成長且受教育一段時日後，再返臺就學的孩子。其華語文聽說讀寫能力相當有限，甚至是零起點，以至於回到國內入學接受教育時，無法順利銜接課程，甚至被迫降轉學習。此外，由於語言隔閡，除無法與老師或同學有效溝通，造成學習及人際關係上的問題外，亦可能因長時間與父母分離，產生家庭親子關係疏離，以及面對文化差異而有生活適應問題。","教育部在2017年起，與高師大等單位合作，辦理「全國各縣市跨國銜轉學生教育初（進）階師資培訓」，並在2020年宣布建立跨國轉銜機制，也發展「跨國銜轉教育學生華語數位學習平臺」等方式來建立相關跨國學生的轉銜機制。","但本席接獲一些民眾陳情，教育部在推動跨國銜轉教育的宣傳方面，仍值得精進，因此許多新住民子女與家長都不知道該如何申請並獲得相關的資源與協助，致電到許多縣市政府教育局處詢問，獲得的答覆都是局內的新住民業務沒有承接這樣的工作，要他們自行上網尋求幫助。","縱使教育部有針對跨國銜轉教育有開設專門的網頁，在上面也有相關資訊，但有許多新住民家長仍不知道這些資訊。因此，本席要求教育部必須主動跟縣市教育局溝通，甚至是必須來加強宣傳，倘若遇到這些過新住民跨國銜轉的學生，我們可以主動說明有提供這樣的輔助學習資源，讓需要的學生、家長可使用這樣的資源來輔導學習，同時也要與地方教育局處溝通，設置相應的單位或是承辦人可以處理這樣的業務。","此外，同時我們也接獲許多接受教育部辦理的跨國轉銜師資培訓並獲得結業證書的老師們反映，許多學校似乎沒有開始實施相關業務推動，他們也不知道哪邊有相關職缺需求，致使這些受訓完獲得資格的老師們，不知道該如何讓自己學以致用。針對這些師資教育部是否有建立人才庫名單？或是有蒐羅各地有轉銜教育需求的公開資訊平台，讓這些受訓完的老師們能有清楚的資訊能找尋？後續如何精進相關作為？爰請教育部一個月內針對質詢議題向本辦提出回覆。"],["委員黃捷書面質詢：","一、體育暨運動發展部應設於高雄","培育優秀體育選手，有賴於政府妥善擘劃政策，以及與民間企業共同資源，更要社會大眾持續關注與支持。但是2013年1月，體委會遭到降編併入教育部，成為教育部體育署。體育署編制不過人力百餘位，要推動學校體育、全民運動、競技運動、國際體育交流、運動設施、運動產業等龐大業務，顯然不足。","對此，政府已正式宣佈籌備成立「體育暨運動發展部」，為了加強台灣體育發展，未來該部應設於高雄：","第一，台灣現行中央二級機關僅海洋委員會設於高雄市，其他部會皆位於台北市或新北市，南北發展不均。2008年體育署亦曾於南遷於國家訓練中心，顯見高雄適宜作為中央體育主管機關所在地早已備受肯定。","第二，高雄已擁有國家訓練中心和國家運動科學中心，兩中心以共同支援國家培訓隊為目標。國家訓練中心成立較早，乃作為國家隊集體培訓之地。國家運動科學中心則為去年正式掛牌成立的單位，專責研究可如何運用科學技術訓練選手。加上高雄氣候及地理環境適宜戶外訓練，降雨天數較少且氣溫穩定，也有山海河港等天然訓練場域。若體育暨運動發展部能設於高雄，將更能貼近選手的需求。","第三，「高捷橘線O9苓雅運動園區站土地開發案」已經在8月舉行說明會，開發後將成為高雄最大、綜合性的「運動產業聚落」。體育暨運動發展部設於高雄，亦將帶動運動產業的發展。","綜上，體育暨運動發展部設於高雄至少將有區域平衡、貼近選手、促進運動產業等優點，對於體育發展將更有正面助益。","二、國際賽事轉播","台灣近年在國際運動賽事上屢創佳績，讓越來越多人注意到體育競賽，賽事轉播也成為許多人關注的焦點。原則上，運動賽事轉播需顧及運動產業及傳播產業的發展，多數國人也願意理解並給予支持。但文化生活是人民的基本權利，國家必須積極確保人民的文化近用，不會因為身分、年齡、性別、地域、族群、身心障礙等原因產生落差。若全由使用者付費，恐怕無法達成文化均等的目標。","在政府補助取得轉播權業者的前提下，建議在「教育部運動發展基金輔導或獎助提升重大國際賽事觀賞人口作業要點」或其他法規中明定，無論業者以單獨或聯合之方式取得轉播權：","第一，需要有公廣集團參與轉播。","第二，排除不可抗力的因素，例如無轉播訊號的賽事，公廣集團應有足夠時數得以轉播台灣選手出賽之場次。","第三，排除不可抗力的因素，台灣選手出賽之場次，應可在傳統電視頻道或網路上收看。","以本次巴黎奧運為例，取得轉播權之愛爾達體育台，有提供公共電視與華視210小時轉播服務，亦在網路平台上提供八個免費頻道。可將本次轉播經驗列為規範入法，以供未來欲爭取轉播權業者之參考依據，同時也明確加強保障民眾收視權益。"],["主席：接下來我們請登記第14號張雅琳委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":179,"meet_id":"院會-11-2-4","speakers":["韓國瑜","江啟臣","黃珊珊","林楚茵","葛如鈞","林德福","鄭正鈐","林沛祥","麥玉珍","張嘉郡","范雲","謝衣鳯","莊瑞雄","黃建賓","陳秀寳","林倩綺","吳沛憶","羅美玲","黃捷","張雅琳","李坤城","王美惠"],"page_start":103,"meetingDate":["2024-10-15"],"gazette_id":"1137801","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1137801_00003","1137801_00004"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期第4次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢─ 繼續質詢─","agenda_id":"1137801_00004"}}}