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00:01:59,549\n那我想全民防衛動物園準備法第三條統合全民的力量支援軍事作戰及緊急行動這個清楚的寫到我想為什麼會有一些相關的後期就是因為戰事發生當然我們在文字在一直在著重在文字上到底有沒有上戰場我們最不希望的不是孩子在戰場或者是非戰場而是台灣要和平的情況之下不要有任何的戰事\n\n6\n00:02:00,149 --> 00:02:23,286\n那我想去年呢3月國防部也曾預告修法滿16歲的高中生不論男女都要照冊納管雖然最後沒有修法成功但是我想詢問一下在這一次的同意書啊有沒有分男女還是全部都直接發放沒有跟委員報告沒有分男女好那一視同仁全部去做詢問那當然我想詢問一下目前回收有多少\n\n7\n00:02:26,254 --> 00:02:33,660\n我另外想請教部長因為最近有一個新聞中央有發文請民政系統台中市也證實了全力配合全民國防民政局長也提到廟宇活動中心會放彈藥\n\n8\n00:02:53,276 --> 00:03:03,937\n教育部目前相關的單位有收到類似的一個需求嗎?沒有跟委員報告沒有那未來如果收到這樣的需求您的態度是如何?\n\n9\n00:03:05,367 --> 00:03:08,508\n所有的家長當然第一優先希望我們的校園環境就是以教學為主孩子現在最重要的任務就是讀書\n\n10\n00:03:25,973 --> 00:03:26,033\n是。是。是。\n\n11\n00:03:43,587 --> 00:03:56,565\n這件事情是非常嚴重的我們大家全民要知道一件事情當它變成放彈藥或者是軍事所相關的設備在裡面入住的時候先不講平時我們的保存是否安全暫時\n\n12\n00:03:59,349 --> 00:04:08,761\n這樣子的一個教育地點有可能會被進行轟炸因為他已經不是單純的避難我們看到俄烏戰爭在2022年的5月7號以哈戰爭2024年的8月10號9月12\n\n13\n00:04:14,088 --> 00:04:14,248\n市長您覺得認同嗎?\n\n14\n00:04:33,234 --> 00:04:56,131\n我完全認同委員所提的我們本來學校教育它是在人才培育所以在許多的當然全民國防人人有責這也是一個基本的一個責任跟態度責任態度我們支持全民國防是但是屬於這一個暫時所需要的這些武器槍彈這一個我想它不宜這一個放在學校這是清楚的\n\n15\n00:04:56,591 --> 00:05:19,508\n謝謝你謝謝你這樣表現你的態度那我想再另外請問我們都會有打靶的經驗在學校時期那請問打靶的次數目前有準備要增加嗎我目前確實沒有規劃但是我認為這一個打靶的這樣一個對年輕人來講他也是一個很好的一個這一個愈教愈樂的一個全民國防然後能夠精進戰績的這樣的一個學習我覺得這也\n\n16\n00:05:24,912 --> 00:05:26,674\n您這樣子的回覆我不會去造謠說增加打靶次數代表戰勢逼近我們不會這樣想\n\n17\n00:05:43,089 --> 00:05:56,900\n打靶其實預教預樂就像你說的他有教育性質他也讓全民國防能夠貫徹我們可以支持但說清楚講明白這件事情我覺得很重要那我想部長你知道以色列的高級長官啊孩子們都去前線打戰嗎你知道嗎\n\n18\n00:06:00,712 --> 00:06:14,970\n從這個許多的這個網路媒體的一個報導是有看到這樣的一個有看到類似這樣子那賴清德總統的兒子在美國那請問您個人知道還有哪些高級的長官他們的孩子旅居國外嗎\n\n19\n00:06:15,962 --> 00:06:38,890\n我不太清楚那我想問一下全民國訪嘛我們當然也希望能夠多增加更多的人力能夠鼓勵孩子能夠從軍那未來有沒有機會你會再發文或者是甚至同意書去詢問一下旅居國外甚至在國外求學的這些孩子有沒有意願來回到後勤來幫忙支援台灣或者是來鼓勵他們從軍\n\n20\n00:06:40,991 --> 00:06:59,998\n謝謝委員但是確實這些已經在國外讀書的他已經並非屬教育部所管轄我想全民國防這裡邊政府他有一定的這些部會在這一個部分我相信他有一定的一些行政作業流程\n\n21\n00:07:00,498 --> 00:07:23,309\n部長今天討論這麼久不是要刁難你但我要告訴你我們都在盯這件事情我們希望教育部我們回歸到教育我們把教育辦好我們全力來當孩子的後盾這件事情非同小可我們今天已經透過媒體報導出來所以這麼多的委員在關注我希望加強我們教育部的一個態度所以我剛剛聽到我們聊天中我們可以去\n\n22\n00:07:24,289 --> 00:07:25,930\n好,那我想據報載明天行政院院會會通過運動部的組織法是否為真?\n\n23\n00:07:50,444 --> 00:08:11,218\n有沒有信心通過目前教育部已經在昨天也把這個呃呃呃呈報這個宴會明天宴會會討論會討論有沒有信心會通過我們期待那目前組織法的進度到什麼時候到哪裡了有沒有什麼什麼時候會進到委員會只要行政院一通過當然我知道通過嘛對啊那你們有沒有信心嗎\n\n24\n00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:33,155\n蘇長有信心好那我們拭目以待那我想部長我另外再跟請問賴清德總統在520談話希望重啟大陸學生來台就學部長這個部分您有在努力嗎\n\n25\n00:08:34,666 --> 00:08:58,292\n實際上我上任的時候也一直希望能夠這一個大陸那邊的一個學生能夠來台灣就讀這也是那個總統的一個基本上在總統的政見那教育部去執行當然我想這個是一定的但是我們在我們確實先前有許多的一些溝通那陸生來台的目標人數你們目前設定的目標為多少\n\n26\n00:08:59,755 --> 00:09:05,638\n所以簡單來講就是對方封閉嘛對不對我們無法掌握來台的人數嘛甚至我們可以直接說的可能就是兩岸沒有溝通所以在這個部分上很難有進展\n\n27\n00:09:19,945 --> 00:09:46,445\n目前來看是這樣我想不是我們特別偏愛陸生我講真的但是現在我們看到各國很多的各國教育市場近年來多爭取擴大開放措施就是尤其歐美各個先進國家都在面臨少子化的問題大學院校關閉的挑戰擴大吸引優秀的外籍生跟陸生變成為教育政策的施政重點之一可以認同嗎\n\n28\n00:09:48,041 --> 00:10:03,373\n我想這個大方向是是這樣子對吧那面臨我們現在私校不斷的在倒閉我想甚至國立大學的招生都有不足甚至診病的一個問題我們的中級日漸嚴重所以在這個陸生是否能夠\n\n29\n00:10:04,273 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