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00:01:34,786\n這是親師委員會上面即時都會更新親師委員所關心的領域現在最重要的是青年參與但是我們現在可以看到我們青年代表最關心的議題在今天教育部的業務報告106頁裡面竟然只佔一面\n\n6\n00:01:40,929 --> 00:01:59,074\n這樣子的比重你覺得可以表達出對青年朋友意見的重視嗎?你真的知道他們的夢嗎?還是是你自己的夢?要如何擴大青年參與我已經幫您整理好了啦就是說親知委員會在第4屆第二次的會議這是2023年的1月份他們有做開會這有三個重點\n\n7\n00:02:01,516 --> 00:02:11,954\n1、希望中央要有青年事務的主責單位2、政府要藝術資源深化地方連結3、要有一部關注青年需求的青年發展專法\n\n8\n00:02:13,649 --> 00:02:38,405\n不曉得部長有沒有回頭檢視之前的會議機會來了解青年的夢不過我們想先講一下這個所謂的主責單位這件事情那其實根據教育部的統計高達20個縣市都有青年事務專責單位21個縣市有親資組織但是想請問一下部長我們目前中央青年事務的專責單位到底有沒有是誰\n\n9\n00:02:39,847 --> 00:03:05,013\n我目前教育部這邊是有一個青年署部長您一邊在回答的時候青年署署長在後面搖頭我不知道是有沒有看錯其實要不要交流一下部長您要不要再更正一下您的答案中央到底有沒有啊您說有是青年署的署長搖頭然後還有一個\n\n10\n00:03:09,632 --> 00:03:37,065\n其實之前我在學界也跟青年署有很多交流我覺得青年署非常努力但是我想請教育部要檢討一下討論一下青年署的成績到底夠不夠高他有沒有辦法跨部會的做業務整合要扮演中央地方溝通協調的角色這個是部長您的高度要來討論的那我個人認為今年發展署接下來無論是預算的編制或人力的配置上都應該要有更多的資源那我們之前一直有爭取\n\n11\n00:03:37,965 --> 00:03:48,030\n經過了一年多的時間想請問教育部有沒有跟行政院爭取?行政院給人了嗎?給錢了嗎?您的責任是爭取他給了沒?您爭取了沒?他給了沒?\n\n12\n00:03:49,775 --> 00:04:15,649\n我想我們今年確實是回應這一個剛才委員所關心的這一個我怕您麥沒對到那個錄音會不清楚這一個青年白衣圓夢那我們事實上在新的一四年寫年度裡邊一四年裡邊我們就先這個編了十億元希望能夠來這一個在青年署來統籌推動這樣一個錢增加的圓夢嘛待會我們會提到那人有沒有增加啊\n\n13\n00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:21,173\n部長承諾,辦公室、團隊、人力都應該要搭配增加。我們已經查了啦,其實呢,你們114年的預算編制,青年署還是53個人。\n\n14\n00:04:35,447 --> 00:04:55,981\n今年53明年53但是預算卻增加了11億這11億裡面大部分就是10億是要做青年的圓夢而圓夢的計畫內容其實還不夠完整總體來講金智慧是我們國家最高成績的青年諮詢組織但會議的紀錄其實應該要被落實希望不要把青年的想法跟他們的夢當成耳邊風\n\n15\n00:04:57,842 --> 00:05:26,362\n我想這應該是部長跟署長都認同的接下來他們還有一個夢青年基本法這個青年基本法其實已經有韓國已經有芬蘭都相繼設立了芬蘭甚至是在1972年就制定了我們台灣中華民國有11個基本法希望我們青年基本法有沒有可能成為國家的第12個基本法將青年的權益入法受法律保障這個部長是不是可以回應一下\n\n16\n00:05:27,142 --> 00:05:38,971\n我想有關青年基本法裡邊確實我們現在已經有許多的一些對地方的一個諮詢然後包括人家1972年就立了我們討論到現在行政院的版本還沒出來\n\n17\n00:05:41,598 --> 00:06:07,120\n我們現在在建立共識中這個共識希望是讓我們立法院的委員來建立共識其實我們之前就一直覺得很奇怪我們在立法院的網站一查發現其實一開始本來有很多委員要提今年基本法但是有一個很奇怪的日期叫7月12號今年的7月12號突然間民進黨的6個委員的版本同時撤案\n\n18\n00:06:07,961 --> 00:06:29,113\n同時測案。結果我們進去仔細的比較,然後又再重新提出。這個很奇怪,同進同出。我們一直做的新舊版本比較阿宅要做這個difference很容易,結果發現新舊版本裡面新的版本,民進黨的六位委員是把設置青年發展基金的條文給刪除了。\n\n19\n00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:39,109\n我們做了一些研究我們了解到據說部長曾經一一敗會提案的委員請委員要將設置青年基本法的條文刪除\n\n20\n00:06:40,117 --> 00:07:01,056\n本席認為假設行政高層一聲立下就可以來干預立法委員的提案這是希望要求設定刪除的特定的條文這是行政權要干預立法權最壞的示範完全不可取給部長一點時間說明為什麼要來干預我們立法權呢我們所有的委員都是一體的啊為什麼就要特定去干預這些民進黨的委員呢\n\n21\n00:07:02,048 --> 00:07:15,980\n什麼原因呢?為什麼我們的國家不能設置青年發展基金?為什麼不能設置?這個如果不設置的話我們怎麼保障青年事務預算的充足?怎麼樣給予偏鄉跟特殊地區青年事務的優先補助呢?\n\n22\n00:07:17,383 --> 00:07:33,176\n可不可以回應一下跟委員報告就政府立場教育部的立場行政院我們都沒有在干預這個青年基本法的一個設立我們事實上也希望能夠更統合包含這個教育基金裡邊他的這個經費的這個財源很多的東西我們都在\n\n23\n00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:52,194\n所以沒有說不要設立青年基金嗎?沒有干預嗎?清清白白?對不對?我看到那個朝偉搖頭了本席的版本是有設立青年發展基金的懇請教育部長支持可以嗎?\n\n24\n00:07:53,562 --> 00:08:15,627\n我希望這個部份整個經營會的這個法令上的一個我們會有一個更完整的一個周詳的今年海外要圓夢海內也要圓夢全世界要圓夢了我們不只一個海外基金我們應該還要有更多基金不分藍綠大家一起為青年來爭取發展青年的基金那再來呢我們就講了\n\n25\n00:08:16,854 --> 00:08:36,673\n不要覺得說只有一個海外圓夢基金就夠了這個基金目前可以說是一個薛丁格的基金這個薛丁格這個字已經不知道用了幾次了請教部長有聽到您數次到行政院開會向院長溝通這個基金的內容但是呢已經新聞也發布了各式各樣的總統、院長、您都說了\n\n26\n00:08:39,696 --> 00:08:54,492\n但是呢現在計畫內容卻一直沒有公佈看得到吃不到這跟詐騙集團說那個什麼存錢利息看得到領不到這根本就是一樣啊不要做這種示範到底現在這個計畫內容為什麼還沒公佈啊進度到底怎麼樣可不可以分享一下\n\n27\n00:08:58,837 --> 00:08:59,217\n預計什麼時候會提出?\n\n28\n00:09:14,313 --> 00:09:36,352\n細部方案大家都想申請啊想海外圓夢啊喊了這麼久基本上我們在年底前會提出來年底前齁最後提醒一下部長齁其實每一個部會都有這些海外的青年基金希望統整一下不要到時候互相漢革了還是就到時候算不清楚到底我們給青年多少錢到底夠不夠\n\n29\n00:09:37,741 --> 00:09:50,512\n同時我也在與您交談的建議當中有提出這個海外的百億基金希望可以參考用MatchFund或者是QuotientFunding用一些其他的一些配比的方法你的10億可以變成20億再用這個希望能夠來持續研議去放大這個效果\n\n30\n00:09:54,975 --> 00:10:15,985\n最後本席要跟這個次長葉秉成次長說上一次質詢沒有讓您有機會來親自的說明這個人工智慧學生聯盟的課程作業宣傳我最後留今天非常寶貴的看這個50秒的時間跟趙偉爭取一下是不是可以說明一下我們一起宣傳一下這個TAICA的計畫\n\n31\n00:10:19,277 --> 00:10:38,690\n謝謝委員我想就是因為臺灣接下來在產業上面大家都各界公司都是這個AI會很缺人那怎麼樣在接下來這兩三年之內臺灣我們可以先做好準備就全臺灣的很多大學學生想要學這些AI的課程的時候他的修課的量能夠充足所以我想這就是為什麼我們會成立台卡\n\n32\n00:10:39,170 --> 00:10:39,430\n葛如鈞\n\n33\n00:10:55,987 --> 00:10:56,407\n李卓人議員\n\n34\n00:11:14,212 --> 00:11:14,412\n葛如鈞委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n117\t1918\t謝謝主席,有請教育部政部長有請政部長\n25273\t49626\t委員好部長好我想部長應該知道4月21號我們的賴總統還沒上任的時候呢就喊出了這個百億青年海外圓夢基金我想要圓他們的夢這個您擔任校長的時候大家都說中山大學的校長是最了解青年想要什麼所以青年的夢應該要很了解我們才能夠圓他們的夢請教一下部長\n50586\t57103\t您作為行政院親自委員會的執行長你知道目前行政院親自委員會最關心的議題是什麼嗎?\n60506\t79637\t我想怎麼樣讓青年能夠國家來協助青年圓夢青年來協助國家圓夢我想這個是我們基本的一個精神但是部長我問的不是你心中的夢是青年心中的夢\n80838\t94786\t這是親師委員會上面即時都會更新親師委員所關心的領域現在最重要的是青年參與但是我們現在可以看到我們青年代表最關心的議題在今天教育部的業務報告106頁裡面竟然只佔一面\n100929\t119074\t這樣子的比重你覺得可以表達出對青年朋友意見的重視嗎?你真的知道他們的夢嗎?還是是你自己的夢?要如何擴大青年參與我已經幫您整理好了啦就是說親知委員會在第4屆第二次的會議這是2023年的1月份他們有做開會這有三個重點\n121516\t131954\t1、希望中央要有青年事務的主責單位2、政府要藝術資源深化地方連結3、要有一部關注青年需求的青年發展專法\n133649\t158405\t不曉得部長有沒有回頭檢視之前的會議機會來了解青年的夢不過我們想先講一下這個所謂的主責單位這件事情那其實根據教育部的統計高達20個縣市都有青年事務專責單位21個縣市有親資組織但是想請問一下部長我們目前中央青年事務的專責單位到底有沒有是誰\n159847\t185013\t我目前教育部這邊是有一個青年署部長您一邊在回答的時候青年署署長在後面搖頭我不知道是有沒有看錯其實要不要交流一下部長您要不要再更正一下您的答案中央到底有沒有啊您說有是青年署的署長搖頭然後還有一個\n189632\t217065\t其實之前我在學界也跟青年署有很多交流我覺得青年署非常努力但是我想請教育部要檢討一下討論一下青年署的成績到底夠不夠高他有沒有辦法跨部會的做業務整合要扮演中央地方溝通協調的角色這個是部長您的高度要來討論的那我個人認為今年發展署接下來無論是預算的編制或人力的配置上都應該要有更多的資源那我們之前一直有爭取\n217965\t228030\t經過了一年多的時間想請問教育部有沒有跟行政院爭取?行政院給人了嗎?給錢了嗎?您的責任是爭取他給了沒?您爭取了沒?他給了沒?\n229775\t255649\t我想我們今年確實是回應這一個剛才委員所關心的這一個我怕您麥沒對到那個錄音會不清楚這一個青年白衣圓夢那我們事實上在新的一四年寫年度裡邊一四年裡邊我們就先這個編了十億元希望能夠來這一個在青年署來統籌推動這樣一個錢增加的圓夢嘛待會我們會提到那人有沒有增加啊\n257990\t261173\t部長承諾,辦公室、團隊、人力都應該要搭配增加。我們已經查了啦,其實呢,你們114年的預算編制,青年署還是53個人。\n275447\t295981\t今年53明年53但是預算卻增加了11億這11億裡面大部分就是10億是要做青年的圓夢而圓夢的計畫內容其實還不夠完整總體來講金智慧是我們國家最高成績的青年諮詢組織但會議的紀錄其實應該要被落實希望不要把青年的想法跟他們的夢當成耳邊風\n297842\t326362\t我想這應該是部長跟署長都認同的接下來他們還有一個夢青年基本法這個青年基本法其實已經有韓國已經有芬蘭都相繼設立了芬蘭甚至是在1972年就制定了我們台灣中華民國有11個基本法希望我們青年基本法有沒有可能成為國家的第12個基本法將青年的權益入法受法律保障這個部長是不是可以回應一下\n327142\t338971\t我想有關青年基本法裡邊確實我們現在已經有許多的一些對地方的一個諮詢然後包括人家1972年就立了我們討論到現在行政院的版本還沒出來\n341598\t367120\t我們現在在建立共識中這個共識希望是讓我們立法院的委員來建立共識其實我們之前就一直覺得很奇怪我們在立法院的網站一查發現其實一開始本來有很多委員要提今年基本法但是有一個很奇怪的日期叫7月12號今年的7月12號突然間民進黨的6個委員的版本同時撤案\n367961\t389113\t同時測案。結果我們進去仔細的比較,然後又再重新提出。這個很奇怪,同進同出。我們一直做的新舊版本比較阿宅要做這個difference很容易,結果發現新舊版本裡面新的版本,民進黨的六位委員是把設置青年發展基金的條文給刪除了。\n390199\t399109\t我們做了一些研究我們了解到據說部長曾經一一敗會提案的委員請委員要將設置青年基本法的條文刪除\n400117\t421056\t本席認為假設行政高層一聲立下就可以來干預立法委員的提案這是希望要求設定刪除的特定的條文這是行政權要干預立法權最壞的示範完全不可取給部長一點時間說明為什麼要來干預我們立法權呢我們所有的委員都是一體的啊為什麼就要特定去干預這些民進黨的委員呢\n422048\t435980\t什麼原因呢?為什麼我們的國家不能設置青年發展基金?為什麼不能設置?這個如果不設置的話我們怎麼保障青年事務預算的充足?怎麼樣給予偏鄉跟特殊地區青年事務的優先補助呢?\n437383\t453176\t可不可以回應一下跟委員報告就政府立場教育部的立場行政院我們都沒有在干預這個青年基本法的一個設立我們事實上也希望能夠更統合包含這個教育基金裡邊他的這個經費的這個財源很多的東西我們都在\n458280\t472194\t所以沒有說不要設立青年基金嗎?沒有干預嗎?清清白白?對不對?我看到那個 朝偉搖頭了本席的版本是有設立青年發展基金的 懇請教育部長支持可以嗎?\n473562\t495627\t我希望這個部份整個經營會的這個法令上的一個我們會有一個更完整的一個周詳的 今年海外要圓夢海內也要圓夢全世界要圓夢了我們不只一個海外基金我們應該還要有更多基金不分藍綠大家一起為青年來爭取發展青年的基金那再來呢我們就講了\n496854\t516673\t不要覺得說只有一個海外圓夢基金就夠了這個基金目前可以說是一個薛丁格的基金這個薛丁格這個字已經不知道用了幾次了請教部長有聽到您數次到行政院開會向院長溝通這個基金的內容但是呢已經新聞也發布了各式各樣的總統、院長、您都說了\n519696\t534492\t但是呢現在計畫內容卻一直沒有公佈看得到吃不到這跟詐騙集團說那個什麼存錢利息看得到領不到這根本就是一樣啊不要做這種示範到底現在這個計畫內容為什麼還沒公佈啊進度到底怎麼樣可不可以分享一下\n538837\t539217\t預計什麼時候會提出?\n554313\t576352\t細部方案大家都想申請啊想海外圓夢啊喊了這麼久基本上我們在年底前會提出來年底前齁最後提醒一下部長齁其實每一個部會都有這些海外的青年基金希望統整一下不要到時候互相漢革了還是就到時候算不清楚到底我們給青年多少錢到底夠不夠\n577741\t590512\t同時我也在與您交談的建議當中有提出這個海外的百億基金希望可以參考用Match Fund或者是Quotient Funding用一些其他的一些配比的方法你的10億可以變成20億再用這個希望能夠來持續研議去放大這個效果\n594975\t615985\t最後本席要跟這個次長葉秉成次長說上一次質詢沒有讓您有機會來親自的說明這個人工智慧學生聯盟的課程作業宣傳我最後留今天非常寶貴的看這個50秒的時間跟趙偉爭取一下是不是可以說明一下我們一起宣傳一下這個TAICA的計畫\n619277\t638690\t謝謝委員我想就是因為臺灣接下來在產業上面大家都各界公司都是這個AI會很缺人那怎麼樣在接下來這兩三年之內臺灣我們可以先做好準備就全臺灣的很多大學學生想要學這些AI的課程的時候他的修課的量能夠充足所以我想這就是為什麼我們會成立台卡\n639170\t639430\t葛如鈞\n655987\t656407\t李卓人議員\n674212\t674412\t葛如鈞委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席,有請教育部政部長有請政部長\n委員好部長好我想部長應該知道4月21號我們的賴總統還沒上任的時候呢就喊出了這個百億青年海外圓夢基金我想要圓他們的夢這個您擔任校長的時候大家都說中山大學的校長是最了解青年想要什麼所以青年的夢應該要很了解我們才能夠圓他們的夢請教一下部長\n您作為行政院親自委員會的執行長你知道目前行政院親自委員會最關心的議題是什麼嗎?\n我想怎麼樣讓青年能夠國家來協助青年圓夢青年來協助國家圓夢我想這個是我們基本的一個精神但是部長我問的不是你心中的夢是青年心中的夢\n這是親師委員會上面即時都會更新親師委員所關心的領域現在最重要的是青年參與但是我們現在可以看到我們青年代表最關心的議題在今天教育部的業務報告106頁裡面竟然只佔一面\n這樣子的比重你覺得可以表達出對青年朋友意見的重視嗎?你真的知道他們的夢嗎?還是是你自己的夢?要如何擴大青年參與我已經幫您整理好了啦就是說親知委員會在第4屆第二次的會議這是2023年的1月份他們有做開會這有三個重點\n1、希望中央要有青年事務的主責單位2、政府要藝術資源深化地方連結3、要有一部關注青年需求的青年發展專法\n不曉得部長有沒有回頭檢視之前的會議機會來了解青年的夢不過我們想先講一下這個所謂的主責單位這件事情那其實根據教育部的統計高達20個縣市都有青年事務專責單位21個縣市有親資組織但是想請問一下部長我們目前中央青年事務的專責單位到底有沒有是誰\n我目前教育部這邊是有一個青年署部長您一邊在回答的時候青年署署長在後面搖頭我不知道是有沒有看錯其實要不要交流一下部長您要不要再更正一下您的答案中央到底有沒有啊您說有是青年署的署長搖頭然後還有一個\n其實之前我在學界也跟青年署有很多交流我覺得青年署非常努力但是我想請教育部要檢討一下討論一下青年署的成績到底夠不夠高他有沒有辦法跨部會的做業務整合要扮演中央地方溝通協調的角色這個是部長您的高度要來討論的那我個人認為今年發展署接下來無論是預算的編制或人力的配置上都應該要有更多的資源那我們之前一直有爭取\n經過了一年多的時間想請問教育部有沒有跟行政院爭取?行政院給人了嗎?給錢了嗎?您的責任是爭取他給了沒?您爭取了沒?他給了沒?\n我想我們今年確實是回應這一個剛才委員所關心的這一個我怕您麥沒對到那個錄音會不清楚這一個青年白衣圓夢那我們事實上在新的一四年寫年度裡邊一四年裡邊我們就先這個編了十億元希望能夠來這一個在青年署來統籌推動這樣一個錢增加的圓夢嘛待會我們會提到那人有沒有增加啊\n部長承諾,辦公室、團隊、人力都應該要搭配增加。我們已經查了啦,其實呢,你們114年的預算編制,青年署還是53個人。\n今年53明年53但是預算卻增加了11億這11億裡面大部分就是10億是要做青年的圓夢而圓夢的計畫內容其實還不夠完整總體來講金智慧是我們國家最高成績的青年諮詢組織但會議的紀錄其實應該要被落實希望不要把青年的想法跟他們的夢當成耳邊風\n我想這應該是部長跟署長都認同的接下來他們還有一個夢青年基本法這個青年基本法其實已經有韓國已經有芬蘭都相繼設立了芬蘭甚至是在1972年就制定了我們台灣中華民國有11個基本法希望我們青年基本法有沒有可能成為國家的第12個基本法將青年的權益入法受法律保障這個部長是不是可以回應一下\n我想有關青年基本法裡邊確實我們現在已經有許多的一些對地方的一個諮詢然後包括人家1972年就立了我們討論到現在行政院的版本還沒出來\n我們現在在建立共識中這個共識希望是讓我們立法院的委員來建立共識其實我們之前就一直覺得很奇怪我們在立法院的網站一查發現其實一開始本來有很多委員要提今年基本法但是有一個很奇怪的日期叫7月12號今年的7月12號突然間民進黨的6個委員的版本同時撤案\n同時測案。結果我們進去仔細的比較,然後又再重新提出。這個很奇怪,同進同出。我們一直做的新舊版本比較阿宅要做這個difference很容易,結果發現新舊版本裡面新的版本,民進黨的六位委員是把設置青年發展基金的條文給刪除了。\n我們做了一些研究我們了解到據說部長曾經一一敗會提案的委員請委員要將設置青年基本法的條文刪除\n本席認為假設行政高層一聲立下就可以來干預立法委員的提案這是希望要求設定刪除的特定的條文這是行政權要干預立法權最壞的示範完全不可取給部長一點時間說明為什麼要來干預我們立法權呢我們所有的委員都是一體的啊為什麼就要特定去干預這些民進黨的委員呢\n什麼原因呢?為什麼我們的國家不能設置青年發展基金?為什麼不能設置?這個如果不設置的話我們怎麼保障青年事務預算的充足?怎麼樣給予偏鄉跟特殊地區青年事務的優先補助呢?\n可不可以回應一下跟委員報告就政府立場教育部的立場行政院我們都沒有在干預這個青年基本法的一個設立我們事實上也希望能夠更統合包含這個教育基金裡邊他的這個經費的這個財源很多的東西我們都在\n所以沒有說不要設立青年基金嗎?沒有干預嗎?清清白白?對不對?我看到那個 朝偉搖頭了本席的版本是有設立青年發展基金的 懇請教育部長支持可以嗎?\n我希望這個部份整個經營會的這個法令上的一個我們會有一個更完整的一個周詳的 今年海外要圓夢海內也要圓夢全世界要圓夢了我們不只一個海外基金我們應該還要有更多基金不分藍綠大家一起為青年來爭取發展青年的基金那再來呢我們就講了\n不要覺得說只有一個海外圓夢基金就夠了這個基金目前可以說是一個薛丁格的基金這個薛丁格這個字已經不知道用了幾次了請教部長有聽到您數次到行政院開會向院長溝通這個基金的內容但是呢已經新聞也發布了各式各樣的總統、院長、您都說了\n但是呢現在計畫內容卻一直沒有公佈看得到吃不到這跟詐騙集團說那個什麼存錢利息看得到領不到這根本就是一樣啊不要做這種示範到底現在這個計畫內容為什麼還沒公佈啊進度到底怎麼樣可不可以分享一下\n預計什麼時候會提出?\n細部方案大家都想申請啊想海外圓夢啊喊了這麼久基本上我們在年底前會提出來年底前齁最後提醒一下部長齁其實每一個部會都有這些海外的青年基金希望統整一下不要到時候互相漢革了還是就到時候算不清楚到底我們給青年多少錢到底夠不夠\n同時我也在與您交談的建議當中有提出這個海外的百億基金希望可以參考用Match Fund或者是Quotient Funding用一些其他的一些配比的方法你的10億可以變成20億再用這個希望能夠來持續研議去放大這個效果\n最後本席要跟這個次長葉秉成次長說上一次質詢沒有讓您有機會來親自的說明這個人工智慧學生聯盟的課程作業宣傳我最後留今天非常寶貴的看這個50秒的時間跟趙偉爭取一下是不是可以說明一下我們一起宣傳一下這個TAICA的計畫\n謝謝委員我想就是因為臺灣接下來在產業上面大家都各界公司都是這個AI會很缺人那怎麼樣在接下來這兩三年之內臺灣我們可以先做好準備就全臺灣的很多大學學生想要學這些AI的課程的時候他的修課的量能夠充足所以我想這就是為什麼我們會成立台卡\n葛如鈞\n李卓人議員\n葛如鈞委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.117 --> 00:01.918\n謝謝主席,有請教育部政部長有請政部長\n\n00:25.273 --> 00:49.626\n委員好部長好我想部長應該知道4月21號我們的賴總統還沒上任的時候呢就喊出了這個百億青年海外圓夢基金我想要圓他們的夢這個您擔任校長的時候大家都說中山大學的校長是最了解青年想要什麼所以青年的夢應該要很了解我們才能夠圓他們的夢請教一下部長\n\n00:50.586 --> 00:57.103\n您作為行政院親自委員會的執行長你知道目前行政院親自委員會最關心的議題是什麼嗎?\n\n01:00.506 --> 01:19.637\n我想怎麼樣讓青年能夠國家來協助青年圓夢青年來協助國家圓夢我想這個是我們基本的一個精神但是部長我問的不是你心中的夢是青年心中的夢\n\n01:20.838 --> 01:34.786\n這是親師委員會上面即時都會更新親師委員所關心的領域現在最重要的是青年參與但是我們現在可以看到我們青年代表最關心的議題在今天教育部的業務報告106頁裡面竟然只佔一面\n\n01:40.929 --> 01:59.074\n這樣子的比重你覺得可以表達出對青年朋友意見的重視嗎?你真的知道他們的夢嗎?還是是你自己的夢?要如何擴大青年參與我已經幫您整理好了啦就是說親知委員會在第4屆第二次的會議這是2023年的1月份他們有做開會這有三個重點\n\n02:01.516 --> 02:11.954\n1、希望中央要有青年事務的主責單位2、政府要藝術資源深化地方連結3、要有一部關注青年需求的青年發展專法\n\n02:13.649 --> 02:38.405\n不曉得部長有沒有回頭檢視之前的會議機會來了解青年的夢不過我們想先講一下這個所謂的主責單位這件事情那其實根據教育部的統計高達20個縣市都有青年事務專責單位21個縣市有親資組織但是想請問一下部長我們目前中央青年事務的專責單位到底有沒有是誰\n\n02:39.847 --> 03:05.013\n我目前教育部這邊是有一個青年署部長您一邊在回答的時候青年署署長在後面搖頭我不知道是有沒有看錯其實要不要交流一下部長您要不要再更正一下您的答案中央到底有沒有啊您說有是青年署的署長搖頭然後還有一個\n\n03:09.632 --> 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06:07.120\n我們現在在建立共識中這個共識希望是讓我們立法院的委員來建立共識其實我們之前就一直覺得很奇怪我們在立法院的網站一查發現其實一開始本來有很多委員要提今年基本法但是有一個很奇怪的日期叫7月12號今年的7月12號突然間民進黨的6個委員的版本同時撤案\n\n06:07.961 --> 06:29.113\n同時測案。結果我們進去仔細的比較,然後又再重新提出。這個很奇怪,同進同出。我們一直做的新舊版本比較阿宅要做這個difference很容易,結果發現新舊版本裡面新的版本,民進黨的六位委員是把設置青年發展基金的條文給刪除了。\n\n06:30.199 --> 06:39.109\n我們做了一些研究我們了解到據說部長曾經一一敗會提案的委員請委員要將設置青年基本法的條文刪除\n\n06:40.117 --> 07:01.056\n本席認為假設行政高層一聲立下就可以來干預立法委員的提案這是希望要求設定刪除的特定的條文這是行政權要干預立法權最壞的示範完全不可取給部長一點時間說明為什麼要來干預我們立法權呢我們所有的委員都是一體的啊為什麼就要特定去干預這些民進黨的委員呢\n\n07:02.048 --> 07:15.980\n什麼原因呢?為什麼我們的國家不能設置青年發展基金?為什麼不能設置?這個如果不設置的話我們怎麼保障青年事務預算的充足?怎麼樣給予偏鄉跟特殊地區青年事務的優先補助呢?\n\n07:17.383 --> 07:33.176\n可不可以回應一下跟委員報告就政府立場教育部的立場行政院我們都沒有在干預這個青年基本法的一個設立我們事實上也希望能夠更統合包含這個教育基金裡邊他的這個經費的這個財源很多的東西我們都在\n\n07:38.280 --> 07:52.194\n所以沒有說不要設立青年基金嗎?沒有干預嗎?清清白白?對不對?我看到那個朝偉搖頭了本席的版本是有設立青年發展基金的懇請教育部長支持可以嗎?\n\n07:53.562 --> 08:15.627\n我希望這個部份整個經營會的這個法令上的一個我們會有一個更完整的一個周詳的今年海外要圓夢海內也要圓夢全世界要圓夢了我們不只一個海外基金我們應該還要有更多基金不分藍綠大家一起為青年來爭取發展青年的基金那再來呢我們就講了\n\n08:16.854 --> 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