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00:03:20,992\n那面對這種狀況,那我們本辦也有接受到很多學校的這種教學組長的這個抱怨,就說近期,而且近期很多新聞媒體也在追蹤這個議題。那我想要跟您探討的是說,這是確確實實在學校現場發生的。那我們在尊重孩子學習的權益的同時,我覺得我們要兼顧到學校老師的這種行政負擔喔。那所以\n\n10\n00:03:22,313 --> 00:03:45,183\n當然我清楚了教育部都說要請老師多擔待一些可是老師如果負擔越重其實越沒有人願意來接行政那更會有越少人來投入教職所以請教部長是說在今年度的新學期教育部有沒有盤點就是說我們到底有多少學校是學期已經開始了還找不到本土語\n\n11\n00:03:45,703 --> 00:03:45,723\n﹚廣告\n\n12\n00:04:06,275 --> 00:04:06,295\n委員會長\n\n13\n00:04:21,055 --> 00:04:31,621\n謝謝委員關心這個本土語言的一個學習確實本土語言任何一項語言的學習都必須要是長時間的一個學習跟長時間的投入他才能夠從這個陌生到這個申書到這個經手\n\n14\n00:04:38,084 --> 00:04:51,900\n我們事實上是各縣市的各種議員我們事實上是有調查的但是以目前來講我們並沒有獲得到這一學期並沒有獲得到有一些各縣市的一些通報像委員剛才所提的這些的現象\n\n15\n00:04:53,001 --> 00:04:53,521\n請教育部長鄭英耀列席報告\n\n16\n00:05:20,140 --> 00:05:37,993\n委員剛才所提的這些,因為目前比較地方的末端的這個,也謝謝委員能夠讓我們知道,我想我們會跟地方政府、地方縣市教育局來看了解看怎麼樣來提供協助。\n\n17\n00:05:38,473 --> 00:05:41,334\n國民中小學教學資源工作人員聘任辦法的修正草案把本土語跟手語等這種特定科目的教學資源工作人員的稱呼改為老師\n\n18\n00:06:05,404 --> 00:06:17,011\n林宜瑾原來是教學工作人員我想把名稱改正當然就是提高對這個他們的尊重這是一個好的方向因為他確實也從事教學工作當然當然\n\n19\n00:06:20,037 --> 00:06:43,111\n我想進一步請教是說那這個辦法修正之後什麼時候會上路因為之前教育部是跟我回答說領底前會發布實施那現在到底有確切的時間點了嗎那部長另外我還要請你回答說那你認為整體的本土語跟手語跟原住民語的教學制度到底還有哪些可以精進的地方部長\n\n20\n00:06:46,053 --> 00:07:10,901\n這一個用人言改為教師這個基本上我們下個禮拜大概就可以因為他通過這個教育部的部會報以後這一個決議以後那我們就會發布那如果我說包括我們整體的本土語我們的手語跟原住民語這個的教學制度你覺得還有哪些可以精進的\n\n21\n00:07:11,801 --> 00:07:24,226\n我想對基本上這些用老師來稱呼這些所有的這是最起碼的一個尊重而且他們也是專業的教育工作者我想陳老師是非常符合的我們會一併來全體來看\n\n22\n00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:27,399\n林宜瑾議員\n\n23\n00:07:48,723 --> 00:08:13,413\n不能因為說趕時間就草率喔那所以諮詢小組在上個月初才召開第一次會議那到現在開了三次會議那我想考量到收集意見跟修改草案的需求也要有一段時間來作業所以我要請教說到底明年真的能上路嗎?能正式掛牌嗎?而且有信心讓這個運動部的基本的這個運作事務能順利確實進入軌道\n\n24\n00:08:15,660 --> 00:08:26,264\n跟我們報告確實我們現在是朝那個方向在努力然後三次的一個知情委員會也有一個形成一個共識就是希望用運動部的一個全新的名稱然後也能夠對全民運動\n\n25\n00:08:34,587 --> 00:08:59,462\n對這個全民的競技型運動包含這個運動產業有一個更積極的一些支持的一個政策上的一個支持的力道所以我們昨天也已經把這個整個運動部的組織法報行政院明天如果業務會通過的話我想體育署也會有一個公開的一些針對這個做一個說明\n\n26\n00:09:01,323 --> 00:09:01,343\n好﹗\n\n27\n00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:37,770\n那我想跟您探討是說我們這屆奧運其實拿下了還蠻亮眼的成績那帕運也拿下五面獎牌那我想之前本席有爭取到就是說我們國訓中心的這個處訓選手的日常零用金也有調升可是我注意到說我們性性障礙的選手的成就加急\n\n28\n00:09:39,210 --> 00:09:58,158\n還有與非身心障礙的選手有一些落差就是說以奧運跟帕運來說奧運第一名的選手可以拿到兩萬塊的成就加給可是帕運第一名的選手只有一萬五千塊那我不曉得這個落差的考量在哪裡那有沒有機會可以調整\n\n29\n00:09:58,838 --> 00:10:24,616\n跟委員報告確實當時的一個考量是因為奧運的所有參選的國家是多的然後他的所有的一些選手這比較競技性的這些運動選手確實都是比較多的所以怕硬所以在這個部分有一些差別但我想體育署內部也已經在討論針對這些看怎麼樣有一個更適當的一些成就佳績\n\n30\n00:10:25,396 --> 00:10:52,341\n好那簡單30秒就是說技職教育剛剛有一些委員來催詢那我想技職教育的問題除了我們現在有推出新的方案就是所謂的3加2這個武裝模式這個方案那我想請教一下我們現在這個學年開始推動那到底有多少學校已經開始使用這個模式那學生參與了嗎或者說有多少學校願意來採用這個方案\n\n31\n00:10:53,101 --> 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