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00:00:44,999\n愛沙尼亞有相關的全民防衛課程\n\n4\n00:01:03,773 --> 00:01:30,444\n我自己在想其實台灣的一個特殊地位是我們的學生應該不是只專注於讀書這件事情只專注於課業這件事情應該其實也要了解當前的國家局勢那民國94年2月2號我們其實通過了一個全民國防教育法並且將它融入在108課綱裡面為了增進學生對於台灣的認識特別納入了國家與安全生活救災防災總動員以及反恐等任務\n\n5\n00:01:31,445 --> 00:01:44,183\n這其實也是因應世界趨勢的一個變化所做的一個調整所以我想請教部長請問在教育孩子認知自己國家處境方面這些措施是否是必然的措施呢跟我們報告確實\n\n6\n00:01:46,926 --> 00:02:08,951\n這都是在人才培育裡面必須要的一個措施。全民國防國家自己的國家自己來守護我想這是基本每一個國家的這個國民基本的應該的責任跟態度。好那我就想要了解在第二個問題就是說我們在發放這件事情是不是有跟各縣市政府做一個清楚的說明?\n\n7\n00:02:10,137 --> 00:02:28,939\n我講這一個因為過去這一個我們依據的這一個法令確實也已經超過20年過去就是授權各學校各高中職學校他自行編組那這一次呢看起來部裡邊更善意的希望說18歲當然因為一定要法定的一個\n\n8\n00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:29,801\n主席\n\n9\n00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:47,001\n教育部可以做更仔細的說明跟溝通讓大家瞭解\n\n10\n00:03:04,433 --> 00:03:32,403\n世界局勢一直在變化我們也關心AI我們關心各種東西就是希望我們的孩子可以更有競爭力未來可以跟世界上面的其他的國家的學生一起來競爭所以我想了解世界局勢也是非常重要的而且你知道嗎其實在美國他們有一系列書叫做十歲開始學政治學理財那這邊告訴你說挑起戰爭有正當理由嗎什麼叫做威權統治各項的議題其實都在這個書裡面從十歲開始學習所以我覺得這部分我們可能也是要來跟\n\n11\n00:03:33,183 --> 00:03:33,544\n張雅琳黃金計畫\n\n12\n00:03:48,865 --> 00:03:48,985\n張雅琳議員\n\n13\n00:04:07,853 --> 00:04:36,147\n華倫溜冰不是屬於真金奪牌應該這樣講但是華倫溜冰田徑游泳其實在亞運的表現也是不錯所以我們是不是可以針對亞運有一個菁英培訓計畫呢跟委員報告這亞運的菁英培育計畫事實上是有的是有目前是有包含到這麼多項目都有嗎是的那非常好那之後我們可能再來討論一下這詳細的內容好不好也可以提供詳細的內容到我們辦公室可以嗎\n\n14\n00:04:37,339 --> 00:04:46,802\n可以嗎?可以把詳細的亞運的經營培訓計畫．有關亞運的一個培訓來講的話是針對亞運的項目都會有給他們一個培訓的計畫現在已經在進行當中那可不可以把相關的計畫我們可以約個時間來討論好不好\n\n15\n00:04:57,785 --> 00:05:15,217\n第二項問題是因為我們要發展運動部了其實我也關注到我們在過去有很多事情都交給協會來處理跟管理可是我們對協會的補助其實是年年增高那個補助的比例上面也是增加了非常多可是我們這幾年也非常\n\n16\n00:05:16,857 --> 00:05:19,198\n光這一年其實就有非常多協會的一些爭議那民間其實對於協會的一些制度改革上面也時常有一些聲音\n\n17\n00:05:33,524 --> 00:05:34,365\n教育部長鄭英耀\n\n18\n00:05:52,466 --> 00:05:52,586\n其實委員．\n\n19\n00:06:31,114 --> 00:06:45,220\n我想因為我們人數其實因為過去人手不足啦但是成為一個部之後我們的人力應該相對是充足的因為其實坦白說雖然教練是有回訓制度但是多少人回訓現在是沒有掌握的那再來就是說到底有多少的性平制度\n\n20\n00:06:48,281 --> 00:07:11,879\n好謝謝那我們約時間來詳細做補充說明好了好不好因為時間不太夠那再來就是說齁頭錘禁令啦我想問一下齁因為其實是現在英格蘭跟蘇格蘭還有愛爾蘭甚至美國齁其實他們都有提出一個相關的叫做頂頭錘指引就是限制我們的年輕球員來學訓誒奇怪對不起我回到上一頁齁我好像跑掉了跑不出來喔可以好謝謝幫我按一下\n\n21\n00:07:15,580 --> 00:07:45,122\n可以請部長跟署長看一下這個頭槌它是用這是一分鐘以內就出現了兩次頭槌這部分我們去年就已經有發文要求去做限制那這部分我們會再來了解抱歉因為署長我知道因為之前你有跟我講可是因為你知道我常常出現在足球賽場上所以我大概可以一場比賽我大概可以看到十次以上的頂頭槌那頂頭槌這個我們到底可不可以使用我覺得我們還是要有一個台灣自己的版本\n\n22\n00:07:45,362 --> 00:08:10,770\n因為在國外已經有太多的研究證明他其實傷害腦部的發育會讓孩子未來可能會出現認知的障礙然後甚至也比他們可能頭垂的頸頭部的傷害也是非常嚴重的所以其實相關的國家都已經有一些指引了台灣應該也要有自己的指引來保護我們的孩子免於運動傷害所以我們到底是可以練習的時候使用但是不能比賽還是都不可以我覺得這個需要一個明確的指引來給我們的教練\n\n23\n00:08:12,671 --> 00:08:13,693\n謝謝委員我們一定會把這個辦法定出來而且\n\n24\n00:08:28,051 --> 00:08:53,527\n這一個嚴格的來希望各地方政府跟地方的這些教練能夠遵守因為確實幼兒的這個健康的發展在12歲以下裡面他洗多的腦部還確實還沒有一個非常充分的包括裁判的一個訓練我想我們都會都會來我想就是說到底因為世界上面有不同的聲音啦有人覺得是完全都不可以練有人覺得是可以練但是要正確的練習\n\n25\n00:08:54,688 --> 00:09:11,296\n所以我覺得台灣要有自己的標準那我覺得我們是不是可以邀請相關的專家來可能可以參考日本啦美國啊說是這個紐澳啊英國隨便我覺得是我們可以召集一個相關的專家學者會議來討論這件事情嗎可以嗎那我們預計什麼時候可以完成這個指引呢我們可以抓個時間點嗎\n\n26\n00:09:19,787 --> 00:09:39,279\n報告委員這個如果要訂出一個指引我覺得半年可能需要但是我們在兩個月之內我們就會至少會有一個初步的規劃出來兩個月之內的包括裁判的部分就您剛剛關心的裁判的部分的執法這個是我們馬上就可以要求但是至於訓練的部分我覺得需要一個時間去做相關的一個研究\n\n27\n00:09:40,860 --> 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黃金計畫\n228865\t228985\t張雅琳議員\n247853\t276147\t華倫溜冰不是屬於真金奪牌應該這樣講但是華倫溜冰田徑游泳其實在亞運的表現也是不錯所以我們是不是可以針對亞運有一個菁英培訓計畫呢跟委員報告這亞運的菁英培育計畫事實上是有的是有目前是有包含到這麼多項目都有嗎是的那非常好那之後我們可能再來討論一下這詳細的內容好不好也可以提供詳細的內容到我們辦公室可以嗎\n277339\t286802\t可以嗎?可以把詳細的亞運的經營培訓計畫．有關亞運的一個培訓來講的話是針對亞運的項目都會有給他們一個培訓的計畫現在已經在進行當中那可不可以把相關的計畫我們可以約個時間來討論好不好\n297785\t315217\t第二項問題是因為我們要發展運動部了其實我也關注到我們在過去有很多事情都交給協會來處理跟管理可是我們對協會的補助其實是年年增高那個補助的比例上面也是增加了非常多可是我們這幾年也非常\n316857\t319198\t光這一年其實就有非常多協會的一些爭議那民間其實對於協會的一些制度改革上面也時常有一些聲音\n333524\t334365\t教育部長鄭英耀\n352466\t352586\t其實委員．\n391114\t405220\t我想因為我們人數其實因為過去人手不足啦但是成為一個部之後我們的人力應該相對是充足的因為其實坦白說雖然教練是有回訓制度但是多少人回訓現在是沒有掌握的那再來就是說到底有多少的性平制度\n408281\t431879\t好 謝謝那我們約時間來詳細做補充說明好了好不好因為時間不太夠那再來就是說齁頭錘禁令啦我想問一下齁因為其實是現在英格蘭跟蘇格蘭還有愛爾蘭甚至美國齁其實他們都有提出一個相關的叫做頂頭錘指引就是限制我們的年輕球員來學訓誒奇怪對不起我回到上一頁齁我好像跑掉了跑不出來喔可以好 謝謝幫我按一下\n435580\t465122\t可以請部長跟署長看一下這個頭槌它是用這是一分鐘以內就出現了兩次頭槌這部分我們去年就已經有發文要求去做限制那這部分我們會再來了解抱歉因為署長我知道因為之前你有跟我講可是因為你知道我常常出現在足球賽場上所以我大概可以一場比賽我大概可以看到十次以上的頂頭槌那頂頭槌這個我們到底可不可以使用我覺得我們還是要有一個台灣自己的版本\n465362\t490770\t因為在國外已經有太多的研究證明他其實傷害腦部的發育會讓孩子未來可能會出現認知的障礙然後甚至也比他們可能頭垂的頸頭部的傷害也是非常嚴重的所以其實相關的國家都已經有一些指引了台灣應該也要有自己的指引來保護我們的孩子免於運動傷害所以我們到底是可以練習的時候使用但是不能比賽還是都不可以我覺得這個需要一個明確的指引來給我們的教練\n492671\t493693\t謝謝委員我們一定會把這個辦法定出來而且\n508051\t533527\t這一個嚴格的來希望各地方政府跟地方的這些教練能夠遵守因為確實幼兒的這個健康的發展在12歲以下裡面他洗多的腦部還確實還沒有一個非常充分的包括裁判的一個訓練我想我們都會都會來我想就是說到底因為世界上面有不同的聲音啦有人覺得是完全都不可以練有人覺得是可以練但是要正確的練習\n534688\t551296\t所以我覺得台灣要有自己的標準那我覺得我們是不是可以邀請相關的專家來可能可以參考日本啦美國啊說是這個紐澳啊英國隨便我覺得是我們可以召集一個相關的專家學者會議來討論這件事情嗎可以嗎那我們預計什麼時候可以完成這個指引呢我們可以抓個時間點嗎\n559787\t579279\t報告委員這個如果要訂出一個指引我覺得半年可能需要但是我們在兩個月之內我們就會至少會有一個初步的規劃出來兩個月之內的包括裁判的部分就您剛剛關心的裁判的部分的執法這個是我們馬上就可以要求但是至於訓練的部分我覺得需要一個時間去做相關的一個研究\n580860\t601489\t我應該這樣講我的立場是說如果你要不要裁判執行或是到底要怎麼樣子的依序我覺得是你們可以跟專家來討論之後怎樣對台灣的孩子保障是最好的重點就是孩子的不能夠運動的時候在這麼小就造成了一身的傷害那最後因為時間有點不太夠了我想就跟\n602409\t603610\t部長,您對於實驗教育及體制教育的看法是什麼?\n618652\t635163\t我認為政府當然對這個國民教育裡面供給量、延待需求量我們應該鼓勵這個更多另類的這個學校的一個型態實驗教育應該被鼓舞能夠讓更多的小孩子能夠受益\n635903\t635923\t謝謝委員\n","txt":"委員質詢謝謝主席,有請部長好,有請部長\n委員好部長好就是說其實因為昨天剛剛其實有非常多委員也關心我們在講這個暫時青年服務情同意書的這件事情嘛那其實我昨天也在這樣群組裡面看到了很多的騷動但是我自己我在看這件事情的時候呢因為其實我非常喜歡讀經濟學人那其實他今年一整年幾乎都在講一件事情就是歐盟的軍購支出是不是有從\n愛沙尼亞有相關的全民防衛課程\n我自己在想其實台灣的一個特殊地位是我們的學生應該不是只專注於讀書這件事情只專注於課業這件事情應該其實也要了解當前的國家局勢那民國94年2月2號我們其實通過了一個全民國防教育法並且將它融入在108課綱裡面為了增進學生對於台灣的認識特別納入了國家與安全生活救災防災總動員以及反恐等任務\n這其實也是因應世界趨勢的一個變化所做的一個調整所以我想請教部長請問在教育孩子認知自己國家處境方面這些措施是否是必然的措施呢跟我們報告確實\n這都是在人才培育裡面必須要的一個措施。全民國防國家自己的國家自己來守護我想這是基本每一個國家的這個國民基本的應該的責任跟態度。好那我就想要了解在第二個問題就是說我們在發放這件事情是不是有跟各縣市政府做一個清楚的說明?\n我講這一個因為過去這一個我們依據的這一個法令確實也已經超過20年過去就是授權各學校各高中職學校他自行編組那這一次呢看起來部裡邊更善意的希望說18歲當然因為一定要法定的一個\n主席\n教育部可以做更仔細的說明跟溝通讓大家瞭解\n世界局勢一直在變化我們也關心AI我們關心各種東西就是希望我們的孩子可以更有競爭力未來可以跟世界上面的其他的國家的學生一起來競爭所以我想了解世界局勢也是非常重要的而且你知道嗎其實在美國他們有一系列書叫做十歲開始學政治學理財那這邊告訴你說挑起戰爭有正當理由嗎什麼叫做威權統治各項的議題其實都在這個書裡面從十歲開始學習所以我覺得這部分我們可能也是要來跟\n張雅琳 黃金計畫\n張雅琳議員\n華倫溜冰不是屬於真金奪牌應該這樣講但是華倫溜冰田徑游泳其實在亞運的表現也是不錯所以我們是不是可以針對亞運有一個菁英培訓計畫呢跟委員報告這亞運的菁英培育計畫事實上是有的是有目前是有包含到這麼多項目都有嗎是的那非常好那之後我們可能再來討論一下這詳細的內容好不好也可以提供詳細的內容到我們辦公室可以嗎\n可以嗎?可以把詳細的亞運的經營培訓計畫．有關亞運的一個培訓來講的話是針對亞運的項目都會有給他們一個培訓的計畫現在已經在進行當中那可不可以把相關的計畫我們可以約個時間來討論好不好\n第二項問題是因為我們要發展運動部了其實我也關注到我們在過去有很多事情都交給協會來處理跟管理可是我們對協會的補助其實是年年增高那個補助的比例上面也是增加了非常多可是我們這幾年也非常\n光這一年其實就有非常多協會的一些爭議那民間其實對於協會的一些制度改革上面也時常有一些聲音\n教育部長鄭英耀\n其實委員．\n我想因為我們人數其實因為過去人手不足啦但是成為一個部之後我們的人力應該相對是充足的因為其實坦白說雖然教練是有回訓制度但是多少人回訓現在是沒有掌握的那再來就是說到底有多少的性平制度\n好 謝謝那我們約時間來詳細做補充說明好了好不好因為時間不太夠那再來就是說齁頭錘禁令啦我想問一下齁因為其實是現在英格蘭跟蘇格蘭還有愛爾蘭甚至美國齁其實他們都有提出一個相關的叫做頂頭錘指引就是限制我們的年輕球員來學訓誒奇怪對不起我回到上一頁齁我好像跑掉了跑不出來喔可以好 謝謝幫我按一下\n可以請部長跟署長看一下這個頭槌它是用這是一分鐘以內就出現了兩次頭槌這部分我們去年就已經有發文要求去做限制那這部分我們會再來了解抱歉因為署長我知道因為之前你有跟我講可是因為你知道我常常出現在足球賽場上所以我大概可以一場比賽我大概可以看到十次以上的頂頭槌那頂頭槌這個我們到底可不可以使用我覺得我們還是要有一個台灣自己的版本\n因為在國外已經有太多的研究證明他其實傷害腦部的發育會讓孩子未來可能會出現認知的障礙然後甚至也比他們可能頭垂的頸頭部的傷害也是非常嚴重的所以其實相關的國家都已經有一些指引了台灣應該也要有自己的指引來保護我們的孩子免於運動傷害所以我們到底是可以練習的時候使用但是不能比賽還是都不可以我覺得這個需要一個明確的指引來給我們的教練\n謝謝委員我們一定會把這個辦法定出來而且\n這一個嚴格的來希望各地方政府跟地方的這些教練能夠遵守因為確實幼兒的這個健康的發展在12歲以下裡面他洗多的腦部還確實還沒有一個非常充分的包括裁判的一個訓練我想我們都會都會來我想就是說到底因為世界上面有不同的聲音啦有人覺得是完全都不可以練有人覺得是可以練但是要正確的練習\n所以我覺得台灣要有自己的標準那我覺得我們是不是可以邀請相關的專家來可能可以參考日本啦美國啊說是這個紐澳啊英國隨便我覺得是我們可以召集一個相關的專家學者會議來討論這件事情嗎可以嗎那我們預計什麼時候可以完成這個指引呢我們可以抓個時間點嗎\n報告委員這個如果要訂出一個指引我覺得半年可能需要但是我們在兩個月之內我們就會至少會有一個初步的規劃出來兩個月之內的包括裁判的部分就您剛剛關心的裁判的部分的執法這個是我們馬上就可以要求但是至於訓練的部分我覺得需要一個時間去做相關的一個研究\n我應該這樣講我的立場是說如果你要不要裁判執行或是到底要怎麼樣子的依序我覺得是你們可以跟專家來討論之後怎樣對台灣的孩子保障是最好的重點就是孩子的不能夠運動的時候在這麼小就造成了一身的傷害那最後因為時間有點不太夠了我想就跟\n部長,您對於實驗教育及體制教育的看法是什麼?\n我認為政府當然對這個國民教育裡面供給量、延待需求量我們應該鼓勵這個更多另類的這個學校的一個型態實驗教育應該被鼓舞能夠讓更多的小孩子能夠受益\n謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.309 --> 00:13.326\n委員質詢謝謝主席,有請部長好,有請部長\n\n00:19.827 --> 00:43.238\n委員好部長好就是說其實因為昨天剛剛其實有非常多委員也關心我們在講這個暫時青年服務情同意書的這件事情嘛那其實我昨天也在這樣群組裡面看到了很多的騷動但是我自己我在看這件事情的時候呢因為其實我非常喜歡讀經濟學人那其實他今年一整年幾乎都在講一件事情就是歐盟的軍購支出是不是有從\n\n00:44.238 --> 00:44.999\n愛沙尼亞有相關的全民防衛課程\n\n01:03.773 --> 01:30.444\n我自己在想其實台灣的一個特殊地位是我們的學生應該不是只專注於讀書這件事情只專注於課業這件事情應該其實也要了解當前的國家局勢那民國94年2月2號我們其實通過了一個全民國防教育法並且將它融入在108課綱裡面為了增進學生對於台灣的認識特別納入了國家與安全生活救災防災總動員以及反恐等任務\n\n01:31.445 --> 01:44.183\n這其實也是因應世界趨勢的一個變化所做的一個調整所以我想請教部長請問在教育孩子認知自己國家處境方面這些措施是否是必然的措施呢跟我們報告確實\n\n01:46.926 --> 02:08.951\n這都是在人才培育裡面必須要的一個措施。全民國防國家自己的國家自己來守護我想這是基本每一個國家的這個國民基本的應該的責任跟態度。好那我就想要了解在第二個問題就是說我們在發放這件事情是不是有跟各縣市政府做一個清楚的說明?\n\n02:10.137 --> 02:28.939\n我講這一個因為過去這一個我們依據的這一個法令確實也已經超過20年過去就是授權各學校各高中職學校他自行編組那這一次呢看起來部裡邊更善意的希望說18歲當然因為一定要法定的一個\n\n02:29.760 --> 02:29.801\n主席\n\n02:45.640 --> 02:47.001\n教育部可以做更仔細的說明跟溝通讓大家瞭解\n\n03:04.433 --> 03:32.403\n世界局勢一直在變化我們也關心AI我們關心各種東西就是希望我們的孩子可以更有競爭力未來可以跟世界上面的其他的國家的學生一起來競爭所以我想了解世界局勢也是非常重要的而且你知道嗎其實在美國他們有一系列書叫做十歲開始學政治學理財那這邊告訴你說挑起戰爭有正當理由嗎什麼叫做威權統治各項的議題其實都在這個書裡面從十歲開始學習所以我覺得這部分我們可能也是要來跟\n\n03:33.183 --> 03:33.544\n張雅琳黃金計畫\n\n03:48.865 --> 03:48.985\n張雅琳議員\n\n04:07.853 --> 04:36.147\n華倫溜冰不是屬於真金奪牌應該這樣講但是華倫溜冰田徑游泳其實在亞運的表現也是不錯所以我們是不是可以針對亞運有一個菁英培訓計畫呢跟委員報告這亞運的菁英培育計畫事實上是有的是有目前是有包含到這麼多項目都有嗎是的那非常好那之後我們可能再來討論一下這詳細的內容好不好也可以提供詳細的內容到我們辦公室可以嗎\n\n04:37.339 --> 04:46.802\n可以嗎?可以把詳細的亞運的經營培訓計畫．有關亞運的一個培訓來講的話是針對亞運的項目都會有給他們一個培訓的計畫現在已經在進行當中那可不可以把相關的計畫我們可以約個時間來討論好不好\n\n04:57.785 --> 05:15.217\n第二項問題是因為我們要發展運動部了其實我也關注到我們在過去有很多事情都交給協會來處理跟管理可是我們對協會的補助其實是年年增高那個補助的比例上面也是增加了非常多可是我們這幾年也非常\n\n05:16.857 --> 05:19.198\n光這一年其實就有非常多協會的一些爭議那民間其實對於協會的一些制度改革上面也時常有一些聲音\n\n05:33.524 --> 05:34.365\n教育部長鄭英耀\n\n05:52.466 --> 05:52.586\n其實委員．\n\n06:31.114 --> 06:45.220\n我想因為我們人數其實因為過去人手不足啦但是成為一個部之後我們的人力應該相對是充足的因為其實坦白說雖然教練是有回訓制度但是多少人回訓現在是沒有掌握的那再來就是說到底有多少的性平制度\n\n06:48.281 --> 07:11.879\n好謝謝那我們約時間來詳細做補充說明好了好不好因為時間不太夠那再來就是說齁頭錘禁令啦我想問一下齁因為其實是現在英格蘭跟蘇格蘭還有愛爾蘭甚至美國齁其實他們都有提出一個相關的叫做頂頭錘指引就是限制我們的年輕球員來學訓誒奇怪對不起我回到上一頁齁我好像跑掉了跑不出來喔可以好謝謝幫我按一下\n\n07:15.580 --> 07:45.122\n可以請部長跟署長看一下這個頭槌它是用這是一分鐘以內就出現了兩次頭槌這部分我們去年就已經有發文要求去做限制那這部分我們會再來了解抱歉因為署長我知道因為之前你有跟我講可是因為你知道我常常出現在足球賽場上所以我大概可以一場比賽我大概可以看到十次以上的頂頭槌那頂頭槌這個我們到底可不可以使用我覺得我們還是要有一個台灣自己的版本\n\n07:45.362 --> 08:10.770\n因為在國外已經有太多的研究證明他其實傷害腦部的發育會讓孩子未來可能會出現認知的障礙然後甚至也比他們可能頭垂的頸頭部的傷害也是非常嚴重的所以其實相關的國家都已經有一些指引了台灣應該也要有自己的指引來保護我們的孩子免於運動傷害所以我們到底是可以練習的時候使用但是不能比賽還是都不可以我覺得這個需要一個明確的指引來給我們的教練\n\n08:12.671 --> 08:13.693\n謝謝委員我們一定會把這個辦法定出來而且\n\n08:28.051 --> 08:53.527\n這一個嚴格的來希望各地方政府跟地方的這些教練能夠遵守因為確實幼兒的這個健康的發展在12歲以下裡面他洗多的腦部還確實還沒有一個非常充分的包括裁判的一個訓練我想我們都會都會來我想就是說到底因為世界上面有不同的聲音啦有人覺得是完全都不可以練有人覺得是可以練但是要正確的練習\n\n08:54.688 --> 09:11.296\n所以我覺得台灣要有自己的標準那我覺得我們是不是可以邀請相關的專家來可能可以參考日本啦美國啊說是這個紐澳啊英國隨便我覺得是我們可以召集一個相關的專家學者會議來討論這件事情嗎可以嗎那我們預計什麼時候可以完成這個指引呢我們可以抓個時間點嗎\n\n09:19.787 --> 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