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00:00:34,509\n我時間有限但是部長我想要快速跟您討論關於兒少在你們的相關的主管業務當中到底能夠為我們台灣的兒少做些什麼事情來下一頁這個是相關的詐騙的廣告然後其實我們刑事警察局已經開始有非常多的作為整個行政院也啟動非常多詐騙的業務我想部長您非常清楚那我們來往下一頁\n\n3\n00:00:35,410 --> 00:01:00,363\n那做了這麼多詐騙的事情我要談的是其實我們發現很多的個案或者是很多的陳情人我們發現是相關的金融素養的不足我們來看下一頁可是我知道其實大家都做了非常多的事情金管會今年在5月公布這個普惠金融的衡量指標我們台灣的表現數字其實非常好不管是ATM或者是我們擁有銀行帳戶或是使用電子化支付\n\n4\n00:01:00,683 --> 00:01:29,145\n也就是說連我自己都覺得我身邊好像每一個人都在這整個完整的金融體系底下有被照顧到可是如果離開都市地區我們來看一下那我知道你們其實有相關你們去做相關的研究你們到國際上去參加相關的會議下一頁那在會議當中其實你們自己也提出或是在國際的很多研討會上提出我們有這麼完整的金融體系跟金融服務但也可能相對的風險就高以上這個論述部長您認同嗎\n\n5\n00:01:34,065 --> 00:02:01,204\n但是當風險高的時候我們要回過來看人民的素養跟知識起點在哪裡我們做所有的詐騙要從源頭開始嘛對不對不然所有的第一線的行員連我自己要去領錢他都要問我很久那很久到我都感動我都覺得他很怕我被詐騙這樣可能我年紀看起來有點大但沒關係我覺得這都是好事但是讓我們第一線的工作人員我們回過來看教育面向我們可以做什麼來看下一頁\n\n6\n00:02:02,445 --> 00:02:23,174\n其實我知道公股銀行真的有非常努力在做提升金融素養的事情我不會說沒有包含你們走入社區配合金管會辦金融知識宣導活動辦了產學合作做了弱勢賠利你們甚至還辦了非常多說明會跟講座也就是大家都知道各方各面要提升民眾的素養跟知識下一頁\n\n7\n00:02:23,934 --> 00:02:39,172\n好,那你們還做了更深入跟大專院校合作下令您讓大專院校學生去參觀銀行金管會還有做podcast很好跟上時代還做了演員會做了論壇做了各式各樣的廣宣部長如果從我剛剛一路講下來你覺得我們少了什麼\n\n8\n00:02:42,195 --> 00:02:45,597\n謝謝委員把他整理得這麼完整,當然我想也就委員一開始就您把他整會整的然後我想您剛剛也提到的一開始就是說兒少的部分也就是說孩子他還在至少小學生小學、國中、高中就讓他要有一些觀念那這樣他可以更清楚\n\n9\n00:03:01,504 --> 00:03:27,944\n對,然後我覺得這是可以努力的方向好,那我們來看一下如果部長你也認同我說法是對為什麼要把法務部的同仁請出來呢我跟部長分享也跟副主委分享一個困境好,我們下一頁我說往下扎根的意思就是如同部長您說的小學生、國中生、高中生他們在不同的學習階段其實都需要累積不同的金融素養跟金融知識不管他未來有可能會因為沒有這些知識不小心變成詐騙的幫手、車手\n\n10\n00:03:29,665 --> 00:03:57,417\n或者是他自己就變成受害人我想部長跟副主委你一定認同其實我們可以看得出來過去聯邦銀行、台北富邦銀行、中國信託、玉山銀行還有國泰、世華、點點點、非常多銀行他們都會辦暑假、寒假的活動但是很多都是親子勿動然後要收費我知道在公股銀行有但是相對少例如說我們找出來兆豐銀行、華南銀行、和庫都有辦過類似的活動張盈有主推一些課程\n\n11\n00:03:58,237 --> 00:04:16,588\n那我請法務部出來我也想要請法務部的人回答我我們在收集到非常多跟詐騙有關跟金融犯罪有關的青少年個案當中我們常常可以在後續的收案當中發現他們是基本的知識不足導致於他們不小心成為犯罪的一份子對不對法務部這邊可不可以簡單回應一下\n\n12\n00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:39,739\n不好意思,報告委員,那個具體打詐的業務,那個我們法務部最近是有...沒有沒有,我沒有要問你打詐,因為我時間有限,我要尊重主席,我要準時下來。但是我要說,是不是我們在收容很多犯罪的個案當中都發現,如果基本知識是足的,素養是足的,他們比較不容易走入這個犯罪的行列,我這個論述可以成立嗎?\n\n13\n00:04:40,219 --> 00:04:44,262\n所以我們可不可以積極地要求公股銀行必須承擔其金融素養普惠金融落實於兒少的政策\n\n14\n00:04:55,550 --> 00:05:19,683\n不管是辦剛剛說的下令營、課程我認為必須要更積極擔負起這個社會責任部長你覺得呢?我覺得委員這個方向很好第一個就是說第一個避免自己被騙第二個不小心落入變成犯罪的一個幫手我想這個部分是有確實有必要尤其青少年現在接觸的因為手機很方便嘛接觸訊息很多但是有的時候正確或是不正確有的時候\n\n15\n00:05:20,563 --> 00:05:34,757\n不知道分辨,我覺得這個部分是可以去加強的。主席不好意思,再幾分鐘。好,那這個沒有錯,那我們還接觸到有非常多的民間團體他們是積極在協助而哨的,不管是從社會福利的角度,從家庭安全的角度,從課業輔導的角度,\n\n16\n00:05:36,178 --> 00:06:00,005\n但是從來可能在金管會的角度或是在財政部的角度在公股銀行的角度都不認為自己在這個財政主管機關是有需要跟這些民間團體接觸的所以我剛剛講不管是進入社區辦課程辦活動更積極的跟當地的兒少團體或相關的組織甚至是跟學校主動發起深入的夏令營也好課程也好當然園遊會是一個很簡單的活動可是我也要說啦\n\n17\n00:06:00,405 --> 00:06:26,645\n許多委員會可能就流於形式大家玩一玩可能就忘記但如果我們有可以更積極規劃夏令營、冬令營然後深度的課程讓孩子們及早學習金融素養那讓普惠金融做得更好我相信我們台灣的詐騙事情絕對會減少得更多我們有沒有機會在三個月內拜託相關部會研究這個事情然後我們積極地來推動那當然你們得去找教育部討論這個我相信是我們後續也會協助因為我在教育文化委員會\n\n18\n00:06:28,442 --> 00:06:29,283\n主席,還有幾分鐘?36?好。\n\n19\n00:06:51,238 --> 00:07:16,463\n在董事長走來的路上我就先說好了不要耽誤後面委員的時間其實我們在立法院我在立法院一直倡議有一個事情非常的重要董事長你也是母親我相信你一定可以用母親的角度來看待我們台灣更多的政策是以兒上為主體為服務的主體為思考的主體我相信101在發揮企業責任身上應該也可以從這個角度試著來做一些發想\n\n20\n00:07:17,083 --> 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對不對不然所有的第一線的行員連我自己要去領錢他都要問我很久那很久到我都感動我都覺得他很怕我被詐騙這樣可能我年紀看起來有點大但沒關係我覺得這都是好事但是讓我們第一線的工作人員我們回過來看教育面向我們可以做什麼來看下一頁\n122445\t143174\t其實我知道公股銀行真的有非常努力在做提升金融素養的事情我不會說沒有包含你們走入社區配合金管會辦金融知識宣導活動辦了產學合作做了弱勢賠利你們甚至還辦了非常多說明會跟講座也就是大家都知道各方各面要提升民眾的素養跟知識下一頁\n143934\t159172\t好,那你們還做了更深入跟大專院校合作下令您讓大專院校學生去參觀銀行金管會還有做podcast很好跟上時代還做了演員會做了論壇做了各式各樣的廣宣部長如果從我剛剛一路講下來你覺得我們少了什麼\n162195\t165597\t謝謝委員把他整理得這麼完整,當然我想也就委員一開始就您把他整會整的然後我想您剛剛也提到的一開始就是說兒少的部分也就是說孩子他還在至少小學生小學、國中、高中就讓他要有一些觀念那這樣他可以更清楚\n181504\t207944\t對,然後我覺得這是可以努力的方向好,那我們來看一下如果部長你也認同我說法是對為什麼要把法務部的同仁請出來呢我跟部長分享也跟副主委分享一個困境好,我們下一頁我說往下扎根的意思就是如同部長您說的小學生、國中生、高中生他們在不同的學習階段其實都需要累積不同的金融素養跟金融知識不管他未來有可能會因為沒有這些知識不小心變成詐騙的幫手、車手\n209665\t237417\t或者是他自己就變成受害人我想部長跟副主委你一定認同其實我們可以看得出來過去聯邦銀行、台北富邦銀行、中國信託、玉山銀行還有國泰、世華、點點點、非常多銀行他們都會辦暑假、寒假的活動但是很多都是親子勿動然後要收費我知道在公股銀行有但是相對少例如說我們找出來兆豐銀行、華南銀行、和庫都有辦過類似的活動張盈有主推一些課程\n238237\t256588\t那我請法務部出來我也想要請法務部的人回答我我們在收集到非常多跟詐騙有關跟金融犯罪有關的青少年個案當中我們常常可以在後續的收案當中發現他們是基本的知識不足導致於他們不小心成為犯罪的一份子對不對法務部這邊可不可以簡單回應一下\n260427\t279739\t不好意思,報告委員,那個具體打詐的業務,那個我們法務部最近是有...沒有沒有,我沒有要問你打詐,因為我時間有限,我要尊重主席,我要準時下來。但是我要說,是不是我們在收容很多犯罪的個案當中都發現,如果基本知識是足的,素養是足的,他們比較不容易走入這個犯罪的行列,我這個論述可以成立嗎?\n280219\t284262\t所以我們可不可以積極地要求公股銀行必須承擔其金融素養普惠金融落實於兒少的政策\n295550\t319683\t不管是辦剛剛說的下令營、課程我認為必須要更積極擔負起這個社會責任部長你覺得呢?我覺得委員這個方向很好第一個就是說第一個避免自己被騙第二個不小心落入變成犯罪的一個幫手我想這個部分是有確實有必要尤其青少年現在接觸的因為手機很方便嘛接觸訊息很多但是有的時候正確或是不正確有的時候\n320563\t334757\t不知道分辨,我覺得這個部分是可以去加強的。主席不好意思,再幾分鐘。好,那這個沒有錯,那我們還接觸到有非常多的民間團體他們是積極在協助而哨的,不管是從社會福利的角度,從家庭安全的角度,從課業輔導的角度,\n336178\t360005\t但是從來可能在金管會的角度或是在財政部的角度在公股銀行的角度都不認為自己在這個財政主管機關是有需要跟這些民間團體接觸的所以我剛剛講不管是進入社區辦課程辦活動更積極的跟當地的兒少團體或相關的組織甚至是跟學校主動發起深入的夏令營也好課程也好當然園遊會是一個很簡單的活動可是我也要說啦\n360405\t386645\t許多委員會可能就流於形式大家玩一玩可能就忘記但如果我們有可以更積極規劃夏令營、冬令營然後深度的課程讓孩子們及早學習金融素養那讓普惠金融做得更好我相信我們台灣的詐騙事情絕對會減少得更多我們有沒有機會在三個月內拜託相關部會研究這個事情然後我們積極地來推動那當然你們得去找教育部討論這個我相信是我們後續也會協助因為我在教育文化委員會\n388442\t389283\t主席,還有幾分鐘?36?好。\n411238\t436463\t在董事長走來的路上我就先說好了不要耽誤後面委員的時間其實我們在立法院我在立法院一直倡議有一個事情非常的重要董事長你也是母親我相信你一定可以用母親的角度來看待我們台灣更多的政策是以兒上為主體為服務的主體為思考的主體我相信101在發揮企業責任身上應該也可以從這個角度試著來做一些發想\n437083\t451350\t是委員跟您報告一下其實我們有在做很多的環境教育的部分那我們跟附近的國小也有合作然後會帶著這些小朋友先來認識整個環境整個對於環保的議題對於綠建築的議題還有碳排放這些議題\n456673\t479809\t這些聽起來真的都很棒但是董事長我想幫更多的孩子許願周邊的社區的孩子我相信他們對於101絕對不陌生可是有沒有更多不在這個社區或是偏鄉有那我相信更多以兒童為主體我們希望後續可以看到101有更多的作為我們在兒少服務方面主席談起來好那我們辦公室也會再積極跟各部會討論謝謝主席不好意思耽誤時間謝謝好謝謝裴儀委員接著請陳益臻委員花園\n489781\t489866\t主席\n","txt":"財政部金管會還有法務部代表委員好是部長好午安\n我時間有限但是部長我想要快速跟您討論關於兒少在你們的相關的主管業務當中到底能夠為我們台灣的兒少做些什麼事情來下一頁這個是相關的詐騙的廣告然後其實我們刑事警察局已經開始有非常多的作為整個行政院也啟動非常多詐騙的業務我想部長您非常清楚那我們來往下一頁\n那做了這麼多詐騙的事情我要談的是其實我們發現很多的個案或者是很多的陳情人我們發現是相關的金融素養的不足我們來看下一頁可是我知道其實大家都做了非常多的事情金管會今年在5月公布這個普惠金融的衡量指標我們台灣的表現數字其實非常好不管是ATM或者是我們擁有銀行帳戶或是使用電子化支付\n也就是說連我自己都覺得我身邊好像每一個人都在這整個完整的金融體系底下有被照顧到可是如果離開都市地區我們來看一下那我知道你們其實有相關你們去做相關的研究你們到國際上去參加相關的會議下一頁那在會議當中其實你們自己也提出或是在國際的很多研討會上提出我們有這麼完整的金融體系跟金融服務但也可能相對的風險就高以上這個論述部長您認同嗎\n二、審查:「證券交易稅條例第二條之三及第十二條條文修正草案二、審查:「證券交易稅條例第三及第十二條條文修正草案三、審查:「證券交易稅條例四及第十二條條文修正草案五、審查:「證券交易稅條例六及第十二條條文修正草案七、審查:「證券交易稅條例八及第十二條條文修正草案八及第十二條條文修正草案九、審查:「證券交易稅條例八及第十二條條文修正草案十、審查:「證券交易稅條例八及第十二條條文修正\n但是當風險高的時候我們要回過來看人民的素養跟知識起點在哪裡我們做所有的詐騙要從源頭開始嘛 對不對不然所有的第一線的行員連我自己要去領錢他都要問我很久那很久到我都感動我都覺得他很怕我被詐騙這樣可能我年紀看起來有點大但沒關係我覺得這都是好事但是讓我們第一線的工作人員我們回過來看教育面向我們可以做什麼來看下一頁\n其實我知道公股銀行真的有非常努力在做提升金融素養的事情我不會說沒有包含你們走入社區配合金管會辦金融知識宣導活動辦了產學合作做了弱勢賠利你們甚至還辦了非常多說明會跟講座也就是大家都知道各方各面要提升民眾的素養跟知識下一頁\n好,那你們還做了更深入跟大專院校合作下令您讓大專院校學生去參觀銀行金管會還有做podcast很好跟上時代還做了演員會做了論壇做了各式各樣的廣宣部長如果從我剛剛一路講下來你覺得我們少了什麼\n謝謝委員把他整理得這麼完整,當然我想也就委員一開始就您把他整會整的然後我想您剛剛也提到的一開始就是說兒少的部分也就是說孩子他還在至少小學生小學、國中、高中就讓他要有一些觀念那這樣他可以更清楚\n對,然後我覺得這是可以努力的方向好,那我們來看一下如果部長你也認同我說法是對為什麼要把法務部的同仁請出來呢我跟部長分享也跟副主委分享一個困境好,我們下一頁我說往下扎根的意思就是如同部長您說的小學生、國中生、高中生他們在不同的學習階段其實都需要累積不同的金融素養跟金融知識不管他未來有可能會因為沒有這些知識不小心變成詐騙的幫手、車手\n或者是他自己就變成受害人我想部長跟副主委你一定認同其實我們可以看得出來過去聯邦銀行、台北富邦銀行、中國信託、玉山銀行還有國泰、世華、點點點、非常多銀行他們都會辦暑假、寒假的活動但是很多都是親子勿動然後要收費我知道在公股銀行有但是相對少例如說我們找出來兆豐銀行、華南銀行、和庫都有辦過類似的活動張盈有主推一些課程\n那我請法務部出來我也想要請法務部的人回答我我們在收集到非常多跟詐騙有關跟金融犯罪有關的青少年個案當中我們常常可以在後續的收案當中發現他們是基本的知識不足導致於他們不小心成為犯罪的一份子對不對法務部這邊可不可以簡單回應一下\n不好意思,報告委員,那個具體打詐的業務,那個我們法務部最近是有...沒有沒有,我沒有要問你打詐,因為我時間有限,我要尊重主席,我要準時下來。但是我要說,是不是我們在收容很多犯罪的個案當中都發現,如果基本知識是足的,素養是足的,他們比較不容易走入這個犯罪的行列,我這個論述可以成立嗎?\n所以我們可不可以積極地要求公股銀行必須承擔其金融素養普惠金融落實於兒少的政策\n不管是辦剛剛說的下令營、課程我認為必須要更積極擔負起這個社會責任部長你覺得呢?我覺得委員這個方向很好第一個就是說第一個避免自己被騙第二個不小心落入變成犯罪的一個幫手我想這個部分是有確實有必要尤其青少年現在接觸的因為手機很方便嘛接觸訊息很多但是有的時候正確或是不正確有的時候\n不知道分辨,我覺得這個部分是可以去加強的。主席不好意思,再幾分鐘。好,那這個沒有錯,那我們還接觸到有非常多的民間團體他們是積極在協助而哨的,不管是從社會福利的角度,從家庭安全的角度,從課業輔導的角度,\n但是從來可能在金管會的角度或是在財政部的角度在公股銀行的角度都不認為自己在這個財政主管機關是有需要跟這些民間團體接觸的所以我剛剛講不管是進入社區辦課程辦活動更積極的跟當地的兒少團體或相關的組織甚至是跟學校主動發起深入的夏令營也好課程也好當然園遊會是一個很簡單的活動可是我也要說啦\n許多委員會可能就流於形式大家玩一玩可能就忘記但如果我們有可以更積極規劃夏令營、冬令營然後深度的課程讓孩子們及早學習金融素養那讓普惠金融做得更好我相信我們台灣的詐騙事情絕對會減少得更多我們有沒有機會在三個月內拜託相關部會研究這個事情然後我們積極地來推動那當然你們得去找教育部討論這個我相信是我們後續也會協助因為我在教育文化委員會\n主席,還有幾分鐘?36?好。\n在董事長走來的路上我就先說好了不要耽誤後面委員的時間其實我們在立法院我在立法院一直倡議有一個事情非常的重要董事長你也是母親我相信你一定可以用母親的角度來看待我們台灣更多的政策是以兒上為主體為服務的主體為思考的主體我相信101在發揮企業責任身上應該也可以從這個角度試著來做一些發想\n是委員跟您報告一下其實我們有在做很多的環境教育的部分那我們跟附近的國小也有合作然後會帶著這些小朋友先來認識整個環境整個對於環保的議題對於綠建築的議題還有碳排放這些議題\n這些聽起來真的都很棒但是董事長我想幫更多的孩子許願周邊的社區的孩子我相信他們對於101絕對不陌生可是有沒有更多不在這個社區或是偏鄉有那我相信更多以兒童為主體我們希望後續可以看到101有更多的作為我們在兒少服務方面主席談起來好那我們辦公室也會再積極跟各部會討論謝謝主席不好意思耽誤時間謝謝好謝謝裴儀委員接著請陳益臻委員花園\n主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.490 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Tahovecahe等19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。\n(五)\t本院委員賴惠員等37人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案。【本案須經各黨團簽署不復議同意書】\n(六)\t本院委員林楚茵等19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案」案。【本案須經各黨團簽署不復議同意書】\n(七)\t本院委員邱志偉等19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第十二條條文修正草案」案。\n【10月16日及17日二天一次會】）","id":155579,"gazette":{"lineno":940,"blocks":[["陳委員培瑜：（12時10分）謝謝主席，有請財政部、金管會，還有法務部，謝謝。"],["主席：好，財政部、金管會，還有法務部代表。"],["莊部長翠雲：委員好。"],["陳委員培瑜：是，部長好，午安。我時間有限，部長，我想要快速跟您討論關於兒少，在你們的相關主管業務當中，到底能夠為我們臺灣的兒少做些什麼事情？這個是相關的詐騙廣告，其實我們刑事警察局已經開始有非常多的作為，整個行政院也啟動非常多預防詐騙的業務，我想部長您非常清楚。我們來看下一頁，做了這麼多預防詐騙的事情，我要談的是，其實我們發現很多個案或者是很多的陳情人，是相關的金融素養不足。我知道其實大家都做了非常多的事情，金管會今年在五月公布普惠金融的衡量指標，我們臺灣的表現數字其實非常好，不管是ATM或者是我們擁有的銀行帳戶，或是使用電子化支付，也就是說連我自己都覺得，我身邊好像每一個人都在這個完整的金融體系底下有被照顧到。可是如果離開都市地區，我們來看一下，我知道其實你們有做相關的研究，你們到國際上去參加相關的會議，其實在會議當中你們自己也提出，或是在國際的很多研討會上提出，我們有這麼完整的金融體系跟金融服務，但也可能相對的風險就高。以上這個論述，部長您認同嗎？"],["莊部長翠雲：是。"],["陳委員培瑜：好，部長認同。可是當風險高的時候，我們要回過來看人民的素養跟人民的知識起點在哪裡，我們做所有的預防詐騙要從源頭開始嘛！對不對？不然所有的第一線的行員，連我自己要去領錢，他都要問我很久，很久到我都感動，我都覺得他很怕我被詐騙，可能我年紀看起來有點大，但沒關係，我覺得這都是好事，但是讓我們第一線的工作人員，我們回過來看教育面向我們可以做什麼？其實我知道公股銀行真的非常努力在做提升金融素養的事情，我不會說沒有，包含你們走入社區，配合金管會辦金融知識宣導活動，辦了產學合作，做了弱勢培力，你們甚至還辦了非常多說明會跟講座，也就是大家都知道，各方各面要提升民眾的素養跟知識。你們還做得更深入，跟大專院校合作舉辦夏令營，讓大專院校學生去參觀銀行，金管會還有做podcast，很好，跟上時代，還做了園遊會，做了論壇，做了各式各樣的廣宣。部長，從我剛剛一路講下來，你覺得我們少了什麼？"],["莊部長翠雲：謝謝委員把它整理的這麼完整，當然我想也就是委員一開始……"],["陳委員培瑜：這都是你們做的。"],["莊部長翠雲：您把它整理彙整的，我想您剛剛也提到，一開始就是說兒少的部分，也就是說孩子還在，至少小學生……"],["陳委員培瑜：小學、國中、高中。"],["莊部長翠雲：小學的時候就讓他有一些觀念，這樣他可以更清楚，我覺得這是可以努力的方向。"],["陳委員培瑜：好，那我們來看一下，如果部長也認同我的說法是對的，為什麼我要把法務部的同仁請出來呢？我跟部長和副主委分享一個困境，我說往下扎根的意思就是如同部長說的，小學生、國中生、高中生，他們在不同的學習階段其實都需要累積不同的金融素養跟金融知識，不管他未來有可能會因為沒有這些知識，不小心變成詐騙的幫手、車手，或者是他自己就變成受害人，我想部長跟副主委一定認同。","其實我們可以看得出來，過去聯邦銀行、台北富邦銀行、中國信託、玉山銀行，還有國泰世華等等，非常多銀行都會辦暑假、寒假的活動，但是很多都是親子互動，然後要收費。我知道在公股銀行有，但是相對少，例如說我們找出來兆豐銀行、華南銀行、合庫都有辦過類似的活動，彰銀有主推一些課程。我請法務部出來，我也想要請法務部的人回答我，我們在蒐集到非常多跟詐騙有關，跟金融犯罪有關的青少年個案當中，我們常常可以在後續的受害當中發現，他們是基本的知識不足，導致他們不小心成為犯罪的一分子，對不對？法務部這邊可不可以簡單回應一下。"],["林參事豐文：報告委員，具體打詐的業務，我們法務部最近是……"],["陳委員培瑜：我沒有要問你打詐，因為我的時間有限，我要尊重主席，我要準時下來。但是我要說，是不是我們在收容很多犯罪的個案當中都發現，如果基本知識是足的、素養是足的，他們比較不容易走入這個犯罪的行列，我這個論述可以成立嗎？"],["林參事豐文：我相信應該是這樣子。"],["陳委員培瑜：好，應該是這樣。那我們再請部長跟副主委，所以我們可不可以積極的要求公股銀行？我現在指的是公股銀行必須承擔起提升金融素養、普惠金融落實於兒少的政策？不管是辦剛剛說的夏令營或課程，我認為必須要更積極擔負起這個社會責任。部長你覺得呢？"],["莊部長翠雲：是，我覺得委員這個方向很好，就是第一個避免自己被騙，第二個不小心落入變成犯罪的幫手。我想這個部分是確實有必要，尤其青少年現在因為手機很方便，接觸的訊息很多，但是有的時候正確或是不正確，他不知道分辨，我覺得這個部分是可以去加強的。"],["陳委員培瑜：主席抱歉，再一分鐘。好，這個沒有錯，我們還接觸到有非常多的民間團體，他們是積極在協助兒少的，不管是從社會福利的角度，從家庭安全的角度，從課業輔導的角度，可是可能在金管會的角度，或是在財政部的角度，在公股銀行角度，都不認為自己在這個財政主管機關是有需要跟這些民間團體接觸的。所以我剛剛講，不管是進入社區辦課程、辦活動，更積極的跟當地的兒少團體或相關的組織，甚至是跟學校主動發起深入的夏令營也好，課程也好。當然園遊會是一個很簡單的活動，可是我也要說，很多園遊會可能就流於形式，大家玩一玩可能就忘記了，如果我們可以更積極的規劃夏令營、冬令營，然後深度的課程，讓孩子們及早學習金融素養，讓普惠金融做得更好，我相信我們臺灣詐騙事情絕對會減少得更多。我們有沒有機會在三個月內，拜託相關部會研究這件事情，然後我們積極的來推動？當然你們得去找教育部討論，這個我相信是的，我們後續也會協助，因為我在教育文化委員會。"],["莊部長翠雲：好的，謝謝委員的提示，謝謝。"],["陳委員培瑜：好，所以可以嗎？三個月內。"],["莊部長翠雲：這個部分我們會回去……"],["陳委員培瑜：部長，你就說可以啦！拜託啦！"],["莊部長翠雲：可以啊！"],["陳委員培瑜：我在幫很多兒少請命。好，最後一個，因為今天101董事長有來，我也想要再幫兒少許願，麻煩101董事長，謝謝賈董事長。主席再一分鐘？30秒，好。在董事長走來的路上，我就先說好了，不要耽誤後面委員的時間。其實我在立法院一直倡議，有一件事情非常重要，董事長也是母親，我相信你一定可以用母親的角度來看待，我們臺灣更多的政策是以兒少為主體，為服務的主體，為思考的主體，我相信101在發揮企業責任上，應該也可以從這個角度試著來做一些發想。"],["賈董事長永婕：是，委員，跟您報告一下，其實我們有在做很多環境教育的部分，我們跟附近的國小也有合作，會帶著這些小朋友先來認識整個環境，對於環保的議題，對於綠建築的議題，還有碳排放這些議題。"],["陳委員培瑜：好，這些聽起來真的都很棒，但是董事長，我想幫更多的孩子許願，周邊社區的孩子，我相信他們對於101絕對不陌生，可是有沒有更多不在這個社區或是偏鄉……"],["賈董事長永婕：有。"],["陳委員培瑜：我相信更多以兒童為主體，我們希望後續可以看到101有更多的作為好嗎？"],["賈董事長永婕：我們在兒少服務方面……"],["陳委員培瑜：主席站起來了。好，我們辦公室也會再積極跟各部會討論，謝謝主席，不好意思耽誤時間，謝謝。"],["賈董事長永婕：謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝培瑜委員，接著請陳玉珍委員發言。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":340,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-20-2","speakers":["賴惠員","林德福","吳秉叡","賴士葆","郭國文","李彥秀","王鴻薇","李坤城","黃珊珊","顏寬恒","王世堅","羅明才","邱志偉","陳培瑜","陳玉珍","楊瓊瓔","洪孟楷","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe"],"page_start":277,"meetingDate":["2024-10-16"],"gazette_id":"1138501","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1138501_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲率所屬機關首長暨國營事業董事長、總經理（含各轉投資事業機構公\n股代表之董、監事）列席業務報告，並備質詢；二、審查「證券交易稅條例」5案：(一)行政院函\n請審議「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案、(二)本院委員羅明才等20人\n擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案」案、(三)本院委員賴士葆等25人擬具「證券交\n易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案、(四)本院委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等\n19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案、(五)本院委員邱志偉等19\n人擬具「證券交易稅條例第十二條條文修正草案」案","agenda_id":"1138501_00004"}}}