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--> 00:03.493\n主席請部長\n\n00:11.755 --> 00:40.573\n部長好委員好部長在執行之前必須為我們的這個公路局還有這個台鐵的效率表示讚賞本期在禮拜一在委員會執行這個南迴災害的時候今天就派員到現場窺看大陣仗的去看那民眾感受非常的強烈就是說今天要好這個要讚賞不過這邊好像本期辦公室都沒有收到通知這個部分是不是\n\n00:42.438 --> 01:04.406\n有,其實我也會要求我們的各局署,未來所有的會刊在地方的時候,因為都跟區域的立委都相當的有關,都應該要通知,這個一定要做。謝謝,因為早上還有打電話去臺東服務處罵人,那個,我都一直以為我們,這麼重要的事情怎麼可以不到,我以為是我們員工沒有到,那這以後部分要拜託部長跟相關單位。好,我們會要求,我們會要求,一定要,一定要。好,感謝,沒問題,沒問題齁。\n\n01:05.706 --> 01:07.368\n臺東未來鐵公路中斷時要力拼三個小時,整個花東輸入計畫的SOP具體是什麼?\n\n01:26.090 --> 01:52.010\n具體的如果您要文字內容我們可以提供給委員但是我們是希望三個小時之內例如說如果是蘇花的那一段中段的時候我們趕快啟動南回就是臺東的部分南回的不管是公路運輸也好或者鐵道運輸在上上一次的這個中段的過程當中我們就馬上來啟動那啟動他的火車不只是到運送到西部我們還會拜託高鐵配合配合台鐵的班次到達之後怎麼樣在\n\n01:52.691 --> 01:52.711\n黃建賓\n\n02:16.437 --> 02:45.242\n那未來如果發生陸運的狀況的時候部長非常好陸海工都考慮到了非常的完善不過部長其實在這一次山坡和颱風的時候你的SOP完全沒有效果就是在上個禮拜而已是因為你連任的豪宇整個南迴你講到南迴部分南迴公路第一個它預防性的封路就是新香港到大武這一段整個封路陸運公路不行然後台鐵部分因為大水沖刷火車不行\n\n02:45.862 --> 02:45.882\n黃建賓議員\n\n03:03.393 --> 03:21.000\n我們其實臺東仰賴就是鐵公路我們臺東才會發那個飛機像本席有遇到飛機飛到臺東的上空用原路折返然後本席必須再到臺北坐高鐵到高雄如果晚上沒車要請人到高雄接駁到臺東這個是臺東目前\n\n03:23.277 --> 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