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00:02:25,837\n因為這個就已經牽涉到國際情勢那如果說菲律賓這個國家跟我們沒有那麼close甚至他們不是我們的邦交國的時候\n\n8\n00:02:37,774 --> 00:02:54,609\n那今天如果假設他的領導人換了然後變成是比較親中國大陸你的通篇報告裡面都認為中國大陸是我們現在最大的家鄉敵那這樣子會不會我們的經濟我們的發電命脈國家安全的重要的物資跟能源被掌握在別人的手上\n\n9\n00:02:55,989 --> 00:03:12,456\n這樣到底是強化民主夥伴的合作關係還是弱化我們的國家安全理解委員的關切以及背後的那個問題意識我充分理解但因為我看那個經濟部可能他還在初步的一個如果經濟部報上來以國安單位專業評估你會怎麼建議\n\n10\n00:03:16,577 --> 00:03:33,329\n我們會先看經濟部的內容到底方案是什麼比如說剛委員提到的是日本是菲律賓那放在哪一個地點那那個地點的基礎設施完不完善那以及可能聯通的管道網絡該怎麼鋪設這要有一個全面的方案在評估比較能夠從國安的角度來發揮\n\n11\n00:03:35,010 --> 00:03:59,429\n有講的也沒講耶對阿但這次要歷經個評估過程局長不用那麼的小心啦我現在很直接的講我說實在話我們都還沒有講因為也有媒體就已經講是說哇好像3月4月5月已經有廠商去菲律賓有做前期投資喔所以現在部長去講的話是不是跟這個廠商有一問一答是要拉抬股價還是什麼不知道\n\n12\n00:04:00,069 --> 00:04:28,343\n但是至少從國安的角度來說能源電力我們有辦法依賴你今天不是在台灣今天在台灣有任何一個電廠大家就已經叫翻了就沒有想到我們居然是說遠在幾百公里別的國家不是我們的領土我們要把我們的電放在那邊然後靠著是合約靠著是商業模式把那個電給買回來那如果說今天有任何的狀況我都不講說甚至海底電有沒有什麼樣的一個問題\n\n13\n00:04:29,784 --> 00:04:53,645\n你覺得這對於國安來講到底它是增強我們的國安還是催化我們的國安對我想後面我們來跟經濟部多了解一些他們相關規劃的細節那假如找到細節的話我們再來做局長用專業來講啦如果說真的不可行或者是說真的是可能會圖利的狀況的話以國安局的角度來說好好的提出專業那另外一個部分\n\n14\n00:04:54,898 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