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00:02:15,613\n跟委員報告證券市場也好資本市場的管理機關基本上是金管會所以對這一次延長當沖降稅這樣的一個措施要不要再繼續延長所以我們在之前有跟金管會做相關密切的一個討論\n\n8\n00:02:16,514 --> 00:02:38,232\n也感謝金管會提供了相當多的一些資料除了正向的比如說降低投資人的交易成本然後擴充這個整個維持這個證券市場的一個流動性以及帶動整體資本市場的一個活絡之外當然他也提到就是說必須要有一些管控的一些措施必須要有一些管控機制然後讓這個當沖降稅能夠不要走偏了\n\n9\n00:02:41,594 --> 00:03:06,479\n另外也就是我們也請他提供就是說以當沖的跟非當沖的違約的比例來看當沖的違約比例並沒有比非當沖的違約比例高所以我這個部分我們在這一次討論的過程當中都有相關的一個資料的一個分析當然後續委員這邊提到就算有關股民還有國庫的經濟效益的關鍵等等都是要去注意的也是我們要金管會也會去密切觀察的\n\n10\n00:03:07,739 --> 00:03:32,232\n謝謝部長我們關心的就是這個延長三年到底是好的誰我們希望還是要把股民跟國庫的效益當作是一個最重要的一個目標好不好提出一些策略其實我另外還要關心一個部分部長您也很了解我對於我們原區也就是以前的原住民鄉\n\n11\n00:03:33,593 --> 00:03:37,957\n財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議\n\n12\n00:03:54,654 --> 00:04:20,332\n你們有聽到我的訴求有邀請這六都來但是我說不是邀六都來卻沒有邀真正的這幾個園區來那後來呢你們也用另外的辦了一次但是我看到你們的回函我也蠻傻眼的為什麼因為我們希望就是叫他們來因為財政部\n\n13\n00:04:21,292 --> 00:04:44,069\n無論如何,地制法也好、公債法也好、財化法也好畢竟裡面談到財政的部分你們是統籌全國的財政嘛我們也希望你們要有專業意見嘛所以呢,你們邀請他們來對我來講很重要因為他們的意見你們要聽到但是我發現就沒有耶\n\n14\n00:04:45,470 --> 00:05:00,236\n後來你們有邀了這一次我看到你們的會議記錄我又更傻眼了我在猜他們的意見在哪裡呀我完全看不到他們的意見他們的發言我只看到結論寫什麼呢\n\n15\n00:05:01,716 --> 00:05:22,174\n建議相關直轄市政府橫著轄內園民區自治需求尋預算程序綜合檢討並參酌《地質法》第83條之七第二項規定恰商園民區檢討補助事宜我覺得我看到還要去恰商\n\n16\n00:05:22,975 --> 00:05:37,900\n那部長我覺得應該這樣的結論你也看不下去因為根本沒有辦法解決問題嘛那好了那我也只好土法煉鋼啦因為我找不到他們的意見我就只好一個一個打電話問每一個區公所與會的人員你們來的時候你們的意見表達是說了什麼\n\n17\n00:05:45,222 --> 00:05:59,674\n好,那我要看的,你們剛剛提到你們的結論要他們看第83條之7的第二項規定可是重點是在第83條之7的第一項為什麼?\n\n18\n00:06:03,317 --> 00:06:22,791\n因為重點就是83條之三所列山地原住民區之自治事項他提到前三年平均稅客收入所以我就想要請教部長前三年平均稅客收入你如果請教你怎麼算\n\n19\n00:06:26,778 --> 00:06:29,019\n市政府也很多錢他們自己也有水庫的回饋金他們說\n\n20\n00:06:55,310 --> 00:07:09,783\n他們的稅出自編是4億多但是呢他們的總稅出決算是8億多你看一下這個計算基礎差了一倍至少一倍那他們很苦的是什麼\n\n21\n00:07:10,794 --> 00:07:32,690\n他們要公墨啊、造橋鋪路啊還有這些學校機關的設施聚會所等等等這種大型建設都需要地方的配合款你應該也很了解但是區公所他沒有自主裁員他就要仰賴市政府同意然後合撥配合款那這有什麼樣的問題\n\n22\n00:07:34,071 --> 00:07:47,299\n因為往往他們很多的案件都沒有在市政府送出的案件內因為他要仰賴市府比席啊所以他們很苦啊\n\n23\n00:07:48,908 --> 00:08:16,371\n所以部長您了解所以我再進一步的要講就是其實像我們談到的前三年的平均這些年軍公教條新多少物資指數年增率到達多少可是它永遠被那個法條給綁死因為那個法的文字就寫在那邊前三年升格前三年的水準已經歷經多少年了\n\n24\n00:08:17,071 --> 00:08:39,874\n不進則退沒有變就是縮減因為那個法定的文字在那邊大家就按照那樣子即可所以我為什麼會一直希望而且我好麻煩就是大家做錯一件事好簡單要回復好難也要到地質法修也要在財化法修又要到公債法修重點這是政府弄錯的事餒\n\n25\n00:08:42,316 --> 00:09:05,333\n看我一個立法委員苦口婆心有何其無辜啊我們的族人何其無辜啊委員會這個事情確實非常關切但是我們還是要回到源頭就是《地質法》裡面的規定就是您剛剛也舉出來的那事實上不是只是前三年的平均稅客收入已經只是一個參酌另外還有其他因素要來做涉算補助至少要讓園民區\n\n26\n00:09:07,114 --> 00:09:09,075\n實施自治事項能夠有足夠的裁員\n\n27\n00:09:37,214 --> 00:09:56,575\n不論是部長或者是國庫署長其實你們都很認真也常常的關心我所關心的議題我很感激我只是覺得很苦啊因為以我一己之力要完成這個政府當年的錯誤我覺得我好累因為我覺得不是就是各部會應該要主動的來去補正嗎\n\n28\n00:09:59,358 --> 00:10:20,141\n那我希望因為畢竟財政部是統籌我們全國財政的主管機關我還是希望說給我一個積極的解方修法的意見那是不是這樣部長我希望齁就是再把各區的意見把它整理一下然後呢逐案的說明\n\n29\n00:10:20,842 --> 00:10:49,879\n解決的方案就是很具體的告訴大家說怎麼解決那要修法建議的修法方向還有修法的期程這樣可以嗎委員的意思就是我們先把各個區的意見彙整起來然後看有什麼方式可以做主一的讓大家知道我們可以怎麼做當然您要知道修法其實它的工程是比較大的您在那個地質法那邊也有提案可是當年齁一個法就打破啦對所以修法其實基本上很審慎嘛就是一個條文下去其實影響到後面是\n\n30\n00:10:51,339 --> 00:11:13,364\n這是補正以前的錯誤我覺得這個沒有什麼需要審慎那部長這樣子就大概希望在兩週內把這樣的一個積極的還有期程、修法期程可以提供嗎?期程?因為第四法不是我們的主管法規沒有,就是你的專業意見我們就把意見開始提供我們盡量有提供給委員因為畢竟你們的\n\n31\n00:11:16,505 --> 00:11:19,407\n李華委員黃建豪、黃建豪、黃建豪委員不在廖先祥、廖先祥、廖先祥委員不在\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n7181\t11364\t我們有看到行政院已經是第三次提案延長這個當沖降稅\n14546\t34606\t我們也希望這樣的一個延長透過單日當沖均量的提高帶動台股單日的成交量實施以來我也很同意因為我們確實看到是有幫助的所以我個人也有提案把當沖降稅的措施延長三年\n36768\t59518\t但是我這個地方就是想要提醒一下因為這個再延長一直延長畢竟它就是一個特殊的手段我們當然都知道還是要回歸到正常的市場運作所以我們也有看到報導有去指出一些現象雖然確實有成長但是到底成長了誰\n61079\t83068\t我們看到這個表格裡面有提到外資法人去年的總損益194億可是我們來看本土的時候光是本土的法人他只有1.6億差很多更何況是本土的自然人他是負291.2億\n86169\t102188\t所以這樣的一個分析讓我們覺得很憂心所以我們還是想說這個當沖降稅不單單是要提升交易量我們更希望的是提升股民跟國庫的經濟效益部長是這樣沒錯吧\n107947\t117833\t所以我在這個地方就是希望說把握這個延長的三年如果真的延長三年的話那我請教一下部長要做什麼規劃能夠達到我們的目標\n121278\t135613\t跟委員報告證券市場也好資本市場的管理機關基本上是金管會所以對這一次延長當沖降稅這樣的一個措施要不要再繼續延長所以我們在之前有跟金管會做相關密切的一個討論\n136514\t158232\t也感謝金管會提供了相當多的一些資料除了正向的比如說降低投資人的交易成本然後擴充這個整個維持這個證券市場的一個流動性以及帶動整體資本市場的一個活絡之外當然他也提到就是說必須要有一些管控的一些措施必須要有一些管控機制然後讓這個當沖降稅能夠不要走偏了\n161594\t186479\t另外也就是我們也請他提供就是說以當沖的跟非當沖的違約的比例來看當沖的違約比例並沒有比非當沖的違約比例高所以我這個部分我們在這一次討論的過程當中都有相關的一個資料的一個分析當然後續委員這邊提到就算有關股民還有國庫的經濟效益的關鍵等等都是要去注意的也是我們要金管會也會去密切觀察的\n187739\t212232\t謝謝部長我們關心的就是這個延長三年到底是好的誰我們希望還是要把股民跟國庫的效益當作是一個最重要的一個目標好不好提出一些策略其實我另外還要關心一個部分部長您也很了解我對於我們原區也就是以前的原住民鄉\n213593\t217957\t財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議\n234654\t260332\t你們有聽到我的訴求有邀請這六都來但是我說不是邀六都來卻沒有邀真正的這幾個園區來那後來呢你們也用另外的辦了一次但是我看到你們的回函我也蠻傻眼的為什麼因為我們希望就是叫他們來因為財政部\n261292\t284069\t無論如何,地制法也好、公債法也好、財化法也好畢竟裡面談到財政的部分你們是統籌全國的財政嘛我們也希望你們要有專業意見嘛所以呢,你們邀請他們來對我來講很重要因為他們的意見你們要聽到但是我發現就沒有耶\n285470\t300236\t後來你們有邀了這一次我看到你們的會議記錄我又更傻眼了我在猜他們的意見在哪裡呀我完全看不到他們的意見他們的發言我只看到結論寫什麼呢\n301716\t322174\t建議相關直轄市政府橫著轄內園民區自治需求尋預算程序綜合檢討並參酌《地質法》第83條之七第二項規定恰商園民區檢討補助事宜我覺得我看到還要去恰商\n322975\t337900\t那部長我覺得應該這樣的結論你也看不下去因為根本沒有辦法解決問題嘛那好了那我也只好土法煉鋼啦因為我找不到他們的意見我就只好一個一個打電話問每一個區公所與會的人員你們來的時候你們的意見表達是說了什麼\n345222\t359674\t好,那我要看的,你們剛剛提到你們的結論要他們看第83條之7的第二項規定可是重點是在第83條之7的第一項為什麼?\n363317\t382791\t因為重點就是83條之三所列山地原住民區之自治事項他提到前三年平均稅客收入所以我就想要請教部長前三年平均稅客收入你如果請教你怎麼算\n386778\t389019\t市政府也很多錢他們自己也有水庫的回饋金他們說\n415310\t429783\t他們的稅出自編是4億多但是呢他們的總稅出決算是8億多你看一下這個計算基礎差了一倍至少一倍那他們很苦的是什麼\n430794\t452690\t他們要公墨啊、造橋鋪路啊還有這些學校機關的設施聚會所等等等這種大型建設都需要地方的配合款你應該也很了解但是區公所他沒有自主裁員他就要仰賴市政府同意然後合撥配合款那這有什麼樣的問題\n454071\t467299\t因為往往他們很多的案件都沒有在市政府送出的案件內因為他要仰賴市府比席啊所以他們很苦啊\n468908\t496371\t所以部長您了解所以我再進一步的要講就是其實像我們談到的前三年的平均這些年軍公教條新多少物資指數年增率到達多少可是它永遠被那個法條給綁死因為那個法的文字就寫在那邊前三年升格前三年的水準已經歷經多少年了\n497071\t519874\t不進則退沒有變就是縮減因為那個法定的文字在那邊大家就按照那樣子即可所以我為什麼會一直希望而且我好麻煩就是大家做錯一件事好簡單要回復好難也要到地質法修也要在財化法修又要到公債法修重點這是政府弄錯的事餒\n522316\t545333\t看我一個立法委員苦口婆心有何其無辜啊我們的族人何其無辜啊委員會這個事情確實非常關切但是我們還是要回到源頭就是《地質法》裡面的規定就是您剛剛也舉出來的那事實上不是只是前三年的平均稅客收入已經只是一個參酌另外還有其他因素要來做涉算補助至少要讓園民區\n547114\t549075\t實施自治事項能夠有足夠的裁員\n577214\t596575\t不論是部長或者是國庫署長其實你們都很認真也常常的關心我所關心的議題我很感激我只是覺得很苦啊因為以我一己之力要完成這個政府當年的錯誤我覺得我好累因為我覺得不是就是各部會應該要主動的來去補正嗎\n599358\t620141\t那我希望因為畢竟財政部是統籌我們全國財政的主管機關我還是希望說給我一個積極的解方修法的意見那是不是這樣部長我希望齁就是再把各區的意見把它整理一下然後呢逐案的說明\n620842\t649879\t解決的方案就是很具體的告訴大家說怎麼解決那要修法建議的修法方向還有修法的期程這樣可以嗎委員的意思就是我們先把各個區的意見彙整起來然後看有什麼方式可以做主一的讓大家知道我們可以怎麼做當然您要知道修法其實它的工程是比較大的您在那個地質法那邊也有提案可是當年齁一個法就打破啦對所以修法其實基本上很審慎嘛就是一個條文下去其實影響到後面是\n651339\t673364\t這是補正以前的錯誤我覺得這個沒有什麼需要審慎那部長這樣子就大概希望在兩週內把這樣的一個積極的還有期程、修法期程可以提供嗎?期程?因為第四法不是我們的主管法規沒有,就是你的專業意見我們就把意見開始提供我們盡量有提供給委員因為畢竟你們的\n676505\t679407\t李華委員黃建豪、黃建豪、黃建豪委員不在廖先祥、廖先祥、廖先祥委員不在\n","txt":"我們有看到行政院已經是第三次提案延長這個當沖降稅\n我們也希望這樣的一個延長透過單日當沖均量的提高帶動台股單日的成交量實施以來我也很同意因為我們確實看到是有幫助的所以我個人也有提案把當沖降稅的措施延長三年\n但是我這個地方就是想要提醒一下因為這個再延長一直延長畢竟它就是一個特殊的手段我們當然都知道還是要回歸到正常的市場運作所以我們也有看到報導有去指出一些現象雖然確實有成長但是到底成長了誰\n我們看到這個表格裡面有提到外資法人去年的總損益194億可是我們來看本土的時候光是本土的法人他只有1.6億差很多更何況是本土的自然人他是負291.2億\n所以這樣的一個分析讓我們覺得很憂心所以我們還是想說這個當沖降稅不單單是要提升交易量我們更希望的是提升股民跟國庫的經濟效益部長是這樣沒錯吧\n所以我在這個地方就是希望說把握這個延長的三年如果真的延長三年的話那我請教一下部長要做什麼規劃能夠達到我們的目標\n跟委員報告證券市場也好資本市場的管理機關基本上是金管會所以對這一次延長當沖降稅這樣的一個措施要不要再繼續延長所以我們在之前有跟金管會做相關密切的一個討論\n也感謝金管會提供了相當多的一些資料除了正向的比如說降低投資人的交易成本然後擴充這個整個維持這個證券市場的一個流動性以及帶動整體資本市場的一個活絡之外當然他也提到就是說必須要有一些管控的一些措施必須要有一些管控機制然後讓這個當沖降稅能夠不要走偏了\n另外也就是我們也請他提供就是說以當沖的跟非當沖的違約的比例來看當沖的違約比例並沒有比非當沖的違約比例高所以我這個部分我們在這一次討論的過程當中都有相關的一個資料的一個分析當然後續委員這邊提到就算有關股民還有國庫的經濟效益的關鍵等等都是要去注意的也是我們要金管會也會去密切觀察的\n謝謝部長我們關心的就是這個延長三年到底是好的誰我們希望還是要把股民跟國庫的效益當作是一個最重要的一個目標好不好提出一些策略其實我另外還要關心一個部分部長您也很了解我對於我們原區也就是以前的原住民鄉\n財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議\n你們有聽到我的訴求有邀請這六都來但是我說不是邀六都來卻沒有邀真正的這幾個園區來那後來呢你們也用另外的辦了一次但是我看到你們的回函我也蠻傻眼的為什麼因為我們希望就是叫他們來因為財政部\n無論如何,地制法也好、公債法也好、財化法也好畢竟裡面談到財政的部分你們是統籌全國的財政嘛我們也希望你們要有專業意見嘛所以呢,你們邀請他們來對我來講很重要因為他們的意見你們要聽到但是我發現就沒有耶\n後來你們有邀了這一次我看到你們的會議記錄我又更傻眼了我在猜他們的意見在哪裡呀我完全看不到他們的意見他們的發言我只看到結論寫什麼呢\n建議相關直轄市政府橫著轄內園民區自治需求尋預算程序綜合檢討並參酌《地質法》第83條之七第二項規定恰商園民區檢討補助事宜我覺得我看到還要去恰商\n那部長我覺得應該這樣的結論你也看不下去因為根本沒有辦法解決問題嘛那好了那我也只好土法煉鋼啦因為我找不到他們的意見我就只好一個一個打電話問每一個區公所與會的人員你們來的時候你們的意見表達是說了什麼\n好,那我要看的,你們剛剛提到你們的結論要他們看第83條之7的第二項規定可是重點是在第83條之7的第一項為什麼?\n因為重點就是83條之三所列山地原住民區之自治事項他提到前三年平均稅客收入所以我就想要請教部長前三年平均稅客收入你如果請教你怎麼算\n市政府也很多錢他們自己也有水庫的回饋金他們說\n他們的稅出自編是4億多但是呢他們的總稅出決算是8億多你看一下這個計算基礎差了一倍至少一倍那他們很苦的是什麼\n他們要公墨啊、造橋鋪路啊還有這些學校機關的設施聚會所等等等這種大型建設都需要地方的配合款你應該也很了解但是區公所他沒有自主裁員他就要仰賴市政府同意然後合撥配合款那這有什麼樣的問題\n因為往往他們很多的案件都沒有在市政府送出的案件內因為他要仰賴市府比席啊所以他們很苦啊\n所以部長您了解所以我再進一步的要講就是其實像我們談到的前三年的平均這些年軍公教條新多少物資指數年增率到達多少可是它永遠被那個法條給綁死因為那個法的文字就寫在那邊前三年升格前三年的水準已經歷經多少年了\n不進則退沒有變就是縮減因為那個法定的文字在那邊大家就按照那樣子即可所以我為什麼會一直希望而且我好麻煩就是大家做錯一件事好簡單要回復好難也要到地質法修也要在財化法修又要到公債法修重點這是政府弄錯的事餒\n看我一個立法委員苦口婆心有何其無辜啊我們的族人何其無辜啊委員會這個事情確實非常關切但是我們還是要回到源頭就是《地質法》裡面的規定就是您剛剛也舉出來的那事實上不是只是前三年的平均稅客收入已經只是一個參酌另外還有其他因素要來做涉算補助至少要讓園民區\n實施自治事項能夠有足夠的裁員\n不論是部長或者是國庫署長其實你們都很認真也常常的關心我所關心的議題我很感激我只是覺得很苦啊因為以我一己之力要完成這個政府當年的錯誤我覺得我好累因為我覺得不是就是各部會應該要主動的來去補正嗎\n那我希望因為畢竟財政部是統籌我們全國財政的主管機關我還是希望說給我一個積極的解方修法的意見那是不是這樣部長我希望齁就是再把各區的意見把它整理一下然後呢逐案的說明\n解決的方案就是很具體的告訴大家說怎麼解決那要修法建議的修法方向還有修法的期程這樣可以嗎委員的意思就是我們先把各個區的意見彙整起來然後看有什麼方式可以做主一的讓大家知道我們可以怎麼做當然您要知道修法其實它的工程是比較大的您在那個地質法那邊也有提案可是當年齁一個法就打破啦對所以修法其實基本上很審慎嘛就是一個條文下去其實影響到後面是\n這是補正以前的錯誤我覺得這個沒有什麼需要審慎那部長這樣子就大概希望在兩週內把這樣的一個積極的還有期程、修法期程可以提供嗎?期程?因為第四法不是我們的主管法規沒有,就是你的專業意見我們就把意見開始提供我們盡量有提供給委員因為畢竟你們的\n李華委員黃建豪、黃建豪、黃建豪委員不在廖先祥、廖先祥、廖先祥委員不在\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.181 --> 00:11.364\n我們有看到行政院已經是第三次提案延長這個當沖降稅\n\n00:14.546 --> 00:34.606\n我們也希望這樣的一個延長透過單日當沖均量的提高帶動台股單日的成交量實施以來我也很同意因為我們確實看到是有幫助的所以我個人也有提案把當沖降稅的措施延長三年\n\n00:36.768 --> 00:59.518\n但是我這個地方就是想要提醒一下因為這個再延長一直延長畢竟它就是一個特殊的手段我們當然都知道還是要回歸到正常的市場運作所以我們也有看到報導有去指出一些現象雖然確實有成長但是到底成長了誰\n\n01:01.079 --> 01:23.068\n我們看到這個表格裡面有提到外資法人去年的總損益194億可是我們來看本土的時候光是本土的法人他只有1.6億差很多更何況是本土的自然人他是負291.2億\n\n01:26.169 --> 01:42.188\n所以這樣的一個分析讓我們覺得很憂心所以我們還是想說這個當沖降稅不單單是要提升交易量我們更希望的是提升股民跟國庫的經濟效益部長是這樣沒錯吧\n\n01:47.947 --> 01:57.833\n所以我在這個地方就是希望說把握這個延長的三年如果真的延長三年的話那我請教一下部長要做什麼規劃能夠達到我們的目標\n\n02:01.278 --> 02:15.613\n跟委員報告證券市場也好資本市場的管理機關基本上是金管會所以對這一次延長當沖降稅這樣的一個措施要不要再繼續延長所以我們在之前有跟金管會做相關密切的一個討論\n\n02:16.514 --> 02:38.232\n也感謝金管會提供了相當多的一些資料除了正向的比如說降低投資人的交易成本然後擴充這個整個維持這個證券市場的一個流動性以及帶動整體資本市場的一個活絡之外當然他也提到就是說必須要有一些管控的一些措施必須要有一些管控機制然後讓這個當沖降稅能夠不要走偏了\n\n02:41.594 --> 03:06.479\n另外也就是我們也請他提供就是說以當沖的跟非當沖的違約的比例來看當沖的違約比例並沒有比非當沖的違約比例高所以我這個部分我們在這一次討論的過程當中都有相關的一個資料的一個分析當然後續委員這邊提到就算有關股民還有國庫的經濟效益的關鍵等等都是要去注意的也是我們要金管會也會去密切觀察的\n\n03:07.739 --> 03:32.232\n謝謝部長我們關心的就是這個延長三年到底是好的誰我們希望還是要把股民跟國庫的效益當作是一個最重要的一個目標好不好提出一些策略其實我另外還要關心一個部分部長您也很了解我對於我們原區也就是以前的原住民鄉\n\n03:33.593 --> 03:37.957\n財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議第12會期財政委員會議\n\n03:54.654 --> 04:20.332\n你們有聽到我的訴求有邀請這六都來但是我說不是邀六都來卻沒有邀真正的這幾個園區來那後來呢你們也用另外的辦了一次但是我看到你們的回函我也蠻傻眼的為什麼因為我們希望就是叫他們來因為財政部\n\n04:21.292 --> 04:44.069\n無論如何,地制法也好、公債法也好、財化法也好畢竟裡面談到財政的部分你們是統籌全國的財政嘛我們也希望你們要有專業意見嘛所以呢,你們邀請他們來對我來講很重要因為他們的意見你們要聽到但是我發現就沒有耶\n\n04:45.470 --> 05:00.236\n後來你們有邀了這一次我看到你們的會議記錄我又更傻眼了我在猜他們的意見在哪裡呀我完全看不到他們的意見他們的發言我只看到結論寫什麼呢\n\n05:01.716 --> 05:22.174\n建議相關直轄市政府橫著轄內園民區自治需求尋預算程序綜合檢討並參酌《地質法》第83條之七第二項規定恰商園民區檢討補助事宜我覺得我看到還要去恰商\n\n05:22.975 --> 05:37.900\n那部長我覺得應該這樣的結論你也看不下去因為根本沒有辦法解決問題嘛那好了那我也只好土法煉鋼啦因為我找不到他們的意見我就只好一個一個打電話問每一個區公所與會的人員你們來的時候你們的意見表達是說了什麼\n\n05:45.222 --> 05:59.674\n好,那我要看的,你們剛剛提到你們的結論要他們看第83條之7的第二項規定可是重點是在第83條之7的第一項為什麼?\n\n06:03.317 --> 06:22.791\n因為重點就是83條之三所列山地原住民區之自治事項他提到前三年平均稅客收入所以我就想要請教部長前三年平均稅客收入你如果請教你怎麼算\n\n06:26.778 --> 06:29.019\n市政府也很多錢他們自己也有水庫的回饋金他們說\n\n06:55.310 --> 07:09.783\n他們的稅出自編是4億多但是呢他們的總稅出決算是8億多你看一下這個計算基礎差了一倍至少一倍那他們很苦的是什麼\n\n07:10.794 --> 07:32.690\n他們要公墨啊、造橋鋪路啊還有這些學校機關的設施聚會所等等等這種大型建設都需要地方的配合款你應該也很了解但是區公所他沒有自主裁員他就要仰賴市政府同意然後合撥配合款那這有什麼樣的問題\n\n07:34.071 --> 07:47.299\n因為往往他們很多的案件都沒有在市政府送出的案件內因為他要仰賴市府比席啊所以他們很苦啊\n\n07:48.908 --> 08:16.371\n所以部長您了解所以我再進一步的要講就是其實像我們談到的前三年的平均這些年軍公教條新多少物資指數年增率到達多少可是它永遠被那個法條給綁死因為那個法的文字就寫在那邊前三年升格前三年的水準已經歷經多少年了\n\n08:17.071 --> 08:39.874\n不進則退沒有變就是縮減因為那個法定的文字在那邊大家就按照那樣子即可所以我為什麼會一直希望而且我好麻煩就是大家做錯一件事好簡單要回復好難也要到地質法修也要在財化法修又要到公債法修重點這是政府弄錯的事餒\n\n08:42.316 --> 09:05.333\n看我一個立法委員苦口婆心有何其無辜啊我們的族人何其無辜啊委員會這個事情確實非常關切但是我們還是要回到源頭就是《地質法》裡面的規定就是您剛剛也舉出來的那事實上不是只是前三年的平均稅客收入已經只是一個參酌另外還有其他因素要來做涉算補助至少要讓園民區\n\n09:07.114 --> 09:09.075\n實施自治事項能夠有足夠的裁員\n\n09:37.214 --> 09:56.575\n不論是部長或者是國庫署長其實你們都很認真也常常的關心我所關心的議題我很感激我只是覺得很苦啊因為以我一己之力要完成這個政府當年的錯誤我覺得我好累因為我覺得不是就是各部會應該要主動的來去補正嗎\n\n09:59.358 --> 10:20.141\n那我希望因為畢竟財政部是統籌我們全國財政的主管機關我還是希望說給我一個積極的解方修法的意見那是不是這樣部長我希望齁就是再把各區的意見把它整理一下然後呢逐案的說明\n\n10:20.842 --> 10:49.879\n解決的方案就是很具體的告訴大家說怎麼解決那要修法建議的修法方向還有修法的期程這樣可以嗎委員的意思就是我們先把各個區的意見彙整起來然後看有什麼方式可以做主一的讓大家知道我們可以怎麼做當然您要知道修法其實它的工程是比較大的您在那個地質法那邊也有提案可是當年齁一個法就打破啦對所以修法其實基本上很審慎嘛就是一個條文下去其實影響到後面是\n\n10:51.339 --> 11:13.364\n這是補正以前的錯誤我覺得這個沒有什麼需要審慎那部長這樣子就大概希望在兩週內把這樣的一個積極的還有期程、修法期程可以提供嗎?期程?因為第四法不是我們的主管法規沒有,就是你的專業意見我們就把意見開始提供我們盡量有提供給委員因為畢竟你們的\n\n11:16.505 --> 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Tahovecahe委員：好，謝謝部長，謝謝主席。"],["莊部長翠雲：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝麗華委員。","接著我們請黃健豪、黃健豪、黃健豪委員不在。","廖先翔、廖先翔、廖先翔委員不在。","謝衣鳯、謝衣鳯、謝衣鳯委員不在。","蘇清泉、蘇清泉、蘇清泉委員不在。","羅廷瑋、羅廷瑋、羅廷瑋委員不在。","本席在這裡做個報告，今日登記發言的委員均已詢答完畢，本日會議作如下決議：一、報告及說明詢答完畢。二、委員質詢如果沒有即時答復或請補充資訊，請相關部會在一週內以書面答復，委員另有要求期限者從其所定。","在這裡再跟大家做個報告，證券交易稅條例第二條之二、第十四條條文修正草案……證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案、證券交易稅條例第十二條條文修正草案等5案另擇期繼續審查。","本日會議議程已經進行完畢，倘若有不在場委員，請補提書面質詢，一併列入紀錄，刊登公報，並請議事人員協助處理。休息。","休息（13時）"]],"agenda":{"page_end":340,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-20-2","speakers":["賴惠員","林德福","吳秉叡","賴士葆","郭國文","李彥秀","王鴻薇","李坤城","黃珊珊","顏寬恒","王世堅","羅明才","邱志偉","陳培瑜","陳玉珍","楊瓊瓔","洪孟楷","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe"],"page_start":277,"meetingDate":["2024-10-16"],"gazette_id":"1138501","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1138501_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲率所屬機關首長暨國營事業董事長、總經理（含各轉投資事業機構公\n股代表之董、監事）列席業務報告，並備質詢；二、審查「證券交易稅條例」5案：(一)行政院函\n請審議「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案、(二)本院委員羅明才等20人\n擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二條文修正草案」案、(三)本院委員賴士葆等25人擬具「證券交\n易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案、(四)本院委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等\n19人擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之二及第十二條條文修正草案」案、(五)本院委員邱志偉等19\n人擬具「證券交易稅條例第十二條條文修正草案」案","agenda_id":"1138501_00004"}}}