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00:01:21,785\n扣掉原住民重點學校也不含幼兒園總共有3450間而原住民重點學校一樣不含我們的所謂的幼兒園有420間占了整個的12%原住民重點學校占12%你卻只給我7.7%的預算也就是1.26億我們缺了6900萬請問部長你要補回來嗎\n\n5\n00:01:32,398 --> 00:01:58,480\n跟委員報告這個1.9億事實上他是確定一定有的但是如果有一些需求我知道你不要告訴我這些了啦原住民的部分你就是給我1.26億然後其他的部分你就是16.26億我現在問你的是好原住民部分的時候也可以去爭取16.26億嗎我跟委員報告這一個委員所提的需求我們確實需要的時候我們一定會支持的\n\n6\n00:01:59,330 --> 00:02:16,183\n請準一點可不可以一定會支持你已經編了原住民是1.26億如果原住民多了1.26億也可以再從這個16.26億裡面去拿是嗎精準不要浪費時間跟委員報告可以不可以可不可以我們會支持的\n\n7\n00:02:20,606 --> 00:02:23,068\n你知道學校體育組辦理學校運動場還有運動器材的時候呢你們會派一些委託專家學者去啊\n\n8\n00:02:43,727 --> 00:02:43,867\n請問一下怎麼解決?\n\n9\n00:03:17,066 --> 00:03:26,730\n所以會往前排,不會按照體育署你們現在告訴我們的是不是一定要先以光電,然後沒有光電的就排在最後,以他實際需求是吧?\n\n10\n00:03:27,481 --> 00:03:54,769\n光電需求先評估他確實是在政策上希望能夠兼顧但是如果你很愛浪費我的時間部長我都已經把問題問完了你就回答請暫停請暫停請暫停因為我就4分鐘的時間我把問題問完了你就回答如果真的不適合用光電那麼我會按照學校的需求往前排只要學校有需求就好部長\n\n11\n00:03:55,709 --> 00:04:12,489\n你是專業的人請你回答算精準一點好不好不要浪費我的時間謝謝對於主義老師的權益6月6號我在這邊質詢過你請問一下主義老師的資格門檻現在到底有沒有從高級主義認證修改為中高級主義認證有還是沒有\n\n12\n00:04:14,568 --> 00:04:43,256\n跟委員報告基本上這個原名委員這個原名老師的不要告訴我啦一言一如何有沒有共識什麼時候完成辦法的修訂你不要告訴我就推給原名會的這個什麼教文處你們教文處跟國教署有一個平台啊部長你知道嗎這個平台就必須要討論跟委員報告我們內部的老師這一個培訓跟老師的任用我們確實是在朝降低這一個從什麼時候可以降低\n\n13\n00:04:44,156 --> 00:05:06,185\n我6月6號在這裡問你了今年的6月6號什麼時候研議部長你不能回答你就請旁邊休息請署長什麼時候研議有沒有共識什麼時候可以完成辦法的修訂剛剛部長已經說明了是有共識那現在就是族群的委員那邊大家還要再會商一下在我們這邊跟園民會的行政單位已經有共識了\n\n14\n00:05:07,585 --> 00:05:31,372\n市長,請您以後簡單地回答我。您看,早晚就站起來,我還有兩個重要的問題,沒辦法,我還是一定要問。施肢培育政策的問題,請問一下中央主管、機關要會同,中央目的是要另定。請問一下,原住民族族語施肢政策是什麼?我們現在專注族語老師、教育人員、終點費的族語老師,這些施肢有沒有明確的拼用辦法?\n\n15\n00:05:32,632 --> 00:05:33,173\n請尊重主席好嗎?\n\n16\n00:06:03,577 --> 00:06:05,159\n教育部書面回應\n\n17\n00:06:18,456 --> 00:06:28,542\n我沒有講完才要怎麼書面回應啊我現在問他他可以不用回答我現在問他他可以不用回答請他兩周內回給我好不好你是召委我贊助但是我沒有問他問題他怎麼樣書面回答我可以再跟他約時間\n\n18\n00:06:40,328 --> 00:06:42,749\n高金委員那個我們是不是可以把他麥克風可以切斷好嗎?包括兩分鐘了那等一下省委員每個委員都要和你講說我們今天\n\n19\n00:07:03,278 --> 00:07:04,499\n一、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀列席報告\n\n20\n00:07:29,828 --> 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