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00:01:55,631\n因為梅艷昌是所謂的晨報、氣爆的高風險區所以他所謂的他要使用的防暴器材必須是國家TS認證的一個防暴電機管配件但是我們發現目前安裝在大林電廠上的防暴配管件無論是哪一家公司蒙譽、政賀或是申邦\n\n6\n00:01:56,371 --> 00:01:56,631\n董事長知道嗎\n\n7\n00:02:14,973 --> 00:02:18,857\n根據CNS3376標準講得很清楚,爆炸性環境使用的金屬器材對於鋁、鎂、鈦、鈠有含量限制,為什麼呢?\n\n8\n00:02:32,532 --> 00:03:01,158\n因為這些金屬是屬於助燃物他會幫助燃燒所以絕對不能用來這個作為防爆另外有個東西叫做縮狀石墨鑄鐵他也因為這個根據CNS14438的標準在製造過程中在製造過程中他會加入這些金屬鎂、鈦、鎬去幫助他的求化率會提高就是有這樣的一個情況部長、董事長我們來看這個防爆配管件金屬材料要比的是什麼\n\n9\n00:03:01,678 --> 00:03:01,718\n陳昭姿議員\n\n10\n00:03:18,211 --> 00:03:33,590\n那最下階的就是灰口鑄鐵灰口鑄鐵它是不能使用的因為它的這個拉伸度不夠你知道外面的那個水溝蓋就是用的就是灰石鑄鐵那碩木鑄鐵我剛剛提到因為它裡面有一些金屬那些金屬會鑄燃所以它不能用\n\n11\n00:03:35,475 --> 00:03:43,841\n那部長董事長大林電廠更新改建工程合約要求當然也要求了合約可斷鑄鐵或鋼或是球末鑄鐵這是OK的但是請部長董事長看這張今年8月6號職安署的大林這個電廠去抽測結果10件有6件不合格\n\n12\n00:03:56,577 --> 00:04:12,578\n裏面有五件就是含了這個有很多所謂的剛剛我講的幾個金屬的這個縮狀這個鑄鐵另外還有一件它含的是灰口鑄鐵根本不防爆另外五個是會助燃的防爆器這是8月6號執安署去抽查出來的結果\n\n13\n00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:33,592\n好下一張好等一下你們好好解釋齁那這個配件裡面還縮動石墨是非常它不防爆還助燃也不符合剛剛我秀給你們看的你們自己的這個採購要求所以他們這個求化率都遠遠低於標準80那我很擔心啊部長跟董事長你能夠接受這樣的產品嗎\n\n14\n00:04:36,016 --> 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