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00:01:27,977\n本來還有大漢的這三個不同的系那這樣會變成說要做這些進修學分的也變少那我覺得這種城鄉差距這個教育的資源會變得比較大那我自己在台北大學嘛像台北大學之前進修學分班其實也是想要說要不要繼續經營我記得教育部那時候也說就已經不多了是因為台北那麼多人要上課但花蓮人也是需要這些啊\n\n5\n00:01:28,317 --> 00:01:37,790\n所以我不知道這一方面就是大旱這件事情發生以後除了那個畢業學生之外現在往後跟東岸就東部這一邊的這個教育資源的規劃是什麼\n\n6\n00:01:40,325 --> 00:02:04,204\n確實謝謝委員關心區域的這個交易的資源跟機會那當時大漢技術他其實是從我的觀點來看他是一個良善的他希望他在財務結構的情況下還可以支持所有的教職員工的一個退休的一個經費而且加碼一到三個月按照年齡這個他服務的年資我想\n\n7\n00:02:04,864 --> 00:02:05,024\n沈伯洋議員\n\n8\n00:02:27,435 --> 00:02:55,595\n花蓮來看就直接的叫東華大學那慈濟大學因為這個慈濟科技大學他們也合併了他事實上這個整個邁向一個更完整的一個中和型大學我相信他能夠提供這個花蓮地區的這些民眾或者一些青年的一些進修各方面的一些我相信他還是可以有一定程度的一個能夠來協助這個不管在職進修或者年輕人的一些學習\n\n9\n00:02:56,415 --> 00:03:22,106\n對,他們的資源是在那一邊,但問題是畢竟現在大漢就是停招了嘛,所以他就是有一個缺口在那一邊。那如果說現有的學生移轉,現在看東華或慈濟要不要收嘛,這是我們知道的事情。但我問的是說未來,就是未來很明顯資源有一個缺口,那有沒有可能有這樣一方面的計畫,看之後如果有這方面的話是不是可以這個有一個書面或者什麼之類的,我們到辦公室來討論這件事情,因為我覺得這件事情很重要。\n\n10\n00:03:23,226 --> 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