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00:00:51,679\n今天早上你已經講了就確定一千萬的來台旅客人數票票只剩4分之3750萬我們還是設定這樣的目標我說過前線同仁大家還是很努力我還是設定這樣的目標當然我沒有否定前線同仁的努力基本上觀光行業以及過去到現在我一直覺得是說我們同仁都很用心那但是現在750萬是一個可能的狀況嘛\n\n3\n00:00:56,622 --> 00:01:16,953\n尤其今天有媒體也報導了就是說有可能有千萬旅客的逆差千萬旅客變成說台灣人都往外跑是不是應該目前還在評估應該不會這麼多啦不會到千萬嘛不會到千萬一千七百萬嘛沒有錯啊那這樣子就這樣子其實是強勁的啊\n\n4\n00:01:18,174 --> 00:01:39,923\n沒關係部長說實在我們現在面臨到因為現在已經10月了嘛那我當然希望好但是我們現在在做一個檢討你說有可能是因為地震颱風軍演等相關的關係但我們看日本我們看其他我們鄰近的國家也有颱風也有地震可是為什麼他們的觀光是逆勢成長他們觀光比疫情之前還要好\n\n5\n00:01:40,697 --> 00:02:07,893\n那我們到底缺的是什麼?包括日本應該所有的台灣人民都知道因為日本現在日幣很便宜大家都很愛去是包括我們自己都很愛去所以說對我們來講你覺得是現在匯率匯率台灣的物價高因素很多這是其中之一來部長我給你一個機會你想一下你明年講還是講是說希望拿到千萬旅客人次本身一定樂觀其成但重點是怎麼做來今年750明年要變1000250萬怎麼來?\n\n6\n00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:37,017\n具體你的目標這個一千萬的這個來台數其實他是有一些策略跟方法然後我們是五大市場比如說這個五大市場我們私下都很多溝通的管道但我現在想請教原則上應該這麼說因為部長今天早上七百五嘛部長\n\n7\n00:02:38,078 --> 00:02:51,395\n新人上任三把火對不對講一下嘛報告委員你自己覺得怎麼樣我明年250從哪邊來然後250是達的到的有沒有一個亮點可以讓大家覺得來\n\n8\n00:02:53,415 --> 00:03:18,386\n我們這個航空業目前正在恢復當中恢復的過程當中其實旅客也會增加這是一方面那二方面其實更關鍵的是大家為什麼會喜歡來台灣玩台灣要有亮點所以我們正在針對亮點的部分正在努力當中那大家知道這次的地震當然其他地方也有地震但是對台灣來講太魯閣是一個很重要的觀光資源那這次很不幸地地震發生在東部那太魯閣確實受損了\n\n9\n00:03:19,787 --> 00:03:22,350\n亮點有可能是環境也有可能是活動也有可能是各縣市的對不對好\n\n10\n00:03:38,426 --> 00:04:01,412\n這就回到老命題其實我們各縣市有非常多的一些活動我覺得都是很有特色譬如說臺東有樂氣球新北有天燈節耶誕城新竹有風箏澎湖有花火那一樣嘛我們不希望是說集中在哪個月份我們希望是說平均如果是12月12個月每一個縣市每個月都可以有一個主題或代表是\n\n11\n00:04:01,952 --> 00:04:27,941\n我就請教這樣子會不會更加的會讓大家覺得說整個臺灣很有趣每個月我來至少我都有一個縣市我就不會集中消費在某一個地方委員說的很正確我們應該要平均一點大家每一個月都能夠來那是第一個第二個就是說針對宣傳面我們有12個活動假設我們有12個月有12個活動宣傳也要讓國外的旅客知道所以我們可能比如說打出12大\n\n12\n00:04:29,380 --> 00:04:54,205\n一月可以去哪個縣市二月去哪個縣市那請教部長然後在裡面你有沒有想到譬如十月我現在哪個縣市是可以去我們十一月開始就是馬上有一個記者會了就是我們的今年的十一月開始就是二十二個縣市啊去分工所以月月有亮點所以十一月的話是花蓮那元月是台中首長我看部長不需要你那麼保護啦來啦部長\n\n13\n00:04:57,621 --> 00:05:05,527\n11月可以去哪個縣市11月阿以我個人來看11月台灣的每個縣市都很好玩\n\n14\n00:05:06,618 --> 00:05:27,075\n那這樣不就又回到老話一句如果說大家都很好玩那就沒有亮點啊縣市都亮點那就是沒有亮點我們現在討論其實很務實的討論部長我沒有要挖洞給你跳我現在點出來這個問題因為這個就是過去到現在我一直在交通委員會有講的就是說我希望是讓全台灣都能有\n\n15\n00:05:27,355 --> 00:05:42,557\n所以這也是為什麼我們有一個中央機關交通部下的觀光署當然我自己也覺得是過去觀光觀光舉報觀光署真的還不夠是天氣變涼台灣有很多的很好的溫泉的區域或許我們可以來發展溫泉的旅遊\n\n16\n00:05:43,418 --> 00:06:00,906\n日本很多的溫泉旅遊台灣人很愛去但其實我們台灣有相當多很棒的溫泉景點這個部分或許可以列為11月或者12月冬天的時候可以用的月份所以部長我就麻煩了既然我們就已經有共識其實我沒有要偏後哪一個縣市因為只要台灣好只要旅客來台灣對我們來講都是賺我們\n\n17\n00:06:03,507 --> 00:06:05,568\n關光旅遊住宿飯店餐飲運輸這都是我們國人可以獲得的\n\n18\n00:06:27,509 --> 00:06:51,999\n所以我們列出來12個月我希望下一次你可以很侃侃而談你甚至如果說有機會出國的時候也可以跟國際友人介紹11月來台灣哪一個縣市什麼活動你一定要來非來不可12月新北耶誕城你一定要來因為這正是已經被列入說是全世界十大的一個亮點所以你沒有來的話太可惜了\n\n19\n00:06:52,859 --> 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