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00:01:27,483\n這個有沒有定一個比例?因為這是一個新的來源國,我們一直希望從上個會期就一直期待那你有定一個目標嗎?職聘的目標嗎?大概是?5%為目標5%喔?現在1%?現在5%喔?為什麼我覺得說因為它是第一次進行的來源國但是部長也正是第一次,因為這次你主要是,據我了解是產業移工嘛那產業移工其實是企業界它是相對有比較多的資源啊\n\n4\n00:01:28,403 --> 00:01:44,842\n你說這個一般的僱主他可能有困難但是企業的部分他有相當資源他是可以來承接或是職聘的這樣的一工作我記得有一次溝通會議也是請職聘的還這樣長跟職聘的一個還報告說他們做得很好啊所以不怕沒搞啦,部長\n\n5\n00:01:46,210 --> 00:02:10,121\n委員真的這個齁因為是第一次來往齁我們跟印度這個來原國而且印度本身沒有職聘的這樣的系統所以我們要考量可行性啦所以先從5%開始以後可以進步好不好我們會來增加5%在醫學的統計學小於5%等於沒有但是我們會來調整我本來要跟你提出要五成一半一半啦因為你是產業移工嘛你知道我的重點是因為這是產業移工不是家庭的雇主\n\n6\n00:02:15,323 --> 00:02:19,607\n如果是有能力來做一個對口請部長還是要考慮把這個標準提高我們的遠洋漁業已經連續3年被美國勞工部列在強迫勞動清單您知道這件事嗎當然\n\n7\n00:02:32,279 --> 00:02:51,373\n那你認為這個勞動權益勞動部有沒有責任委員這方面我們跟漁業署就是農業部漁業署我們是共同在處理這件事我要跟您報告啊遠洋漁業的管理其實是漁業署他甚至他的因為他不屬於勞基法的範圍他是屬於漁業署的一個遠洋漁工管理辦法在處在管理的我可以同意那個漁業署他主責啦對對對但是勞工權益還是會遭到\n\n8\n00:03:00,239 --> 00:03:15,203\n我們跟他們一起協作這個漁業人權行動方案已經從2020年開始到現在了事實上改進非常的多部長你看右邊這個圖你看他們幾個哪些問題這個也是我們要檢討我們應該要加強向美方澄清很嚴重欸金資被扣欸工時過長欸存帳生活條件惡劣不衛生欸生活照顧還有肢體虐待欸\n\n9\n00:03:26,586 --> 00:03:35,829\n那靠港因為大部分沒有辦法靠港休息等等欸這個都最嚴重的事也不過這樣而已啊我覺得那個漁業人權行動方案改善到現在坦白講這些情況已經幾乎都沒有了可是它還列在這裡啊這連續3年還沒有拿掉啊\n\n10\n00:03:43,471 --> 00:04:06,179\n這是我們必須應該要主動去跟美方來提起有稅的問題你覺得我們的這個遠洋漁工沒有這樣的狀況你應該是請美國把這個名單拿掉我們正要做這個努力我們跟農業部要一起做這個努力很不名譽的事情是當然改善外籍這個漁工血汗的困境漁業署他是有提一個漁業與人權行動計劃他當然他就提到說勞動部也有相關的權責\n\n11\n00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:25,128\n那他也提出了一些改善策略那但是當中剛剛你有報導一個1955專線我就這個部分我有幾個問題我想就逐一跟您討論第一個移工在海上工作他有辦法打這支電話嗎他有訊號嗎\n\n12\n00:04:29,031 --> 00:04:49,509\n他一年到頭都是在船上欸他能打這支電話嗎1955委員這個遠洋移工當然是比較困難啦不過我們現在有提供裝設Wi-Fi嘛這也是這個漁業人權行動法案裡面一個重點那個普及率OK嗎現在普及率比較沒有那麼全面甚至比較還算低啦\n\n13\n00:04:49,969 --> 00:05:17,251\n可是這個就牽涉到是衛星那個我們農業部都有在這個計畫當中就是看怎麼樣是用衛星通訊的方式來克服因為那另外其次就是說1955對於近海的漁工是OK的他們都可以打這個電話不過漁業署竟然把這個放上去了就可以用嘛這是第一個第二個那個漁工跟僱主我們只要想一下他們是住在同一條船上那我如果被你虐待\n\n14\n00:05:18,312 --> 00:05:46,644\n我敢打電話嗎我有機會打電話嗎我可以躲起來打電話投訴嗎你想像那個情境如果這些都是來自這個是當然委員這個就是我們要去克服的問題嘛就是說我們希望也宣傳這個漁業組在跟在這方面能夠有這怎麼克服呢他們就住在同一條船上啊Wi-Fi的設置其實當然也是希望能夠有他們可以就進投訴啦\n\n15\n00:05:48,151 --> 00:06:13,638\n還有包括文字客服我覺得可能有機會要去了解一下這些移工他們到底遇到了什麼困難委員他們的薪資已經提升到550塊美金了這已經接近國際的水準了這是其中一項而已嘛其實最重要是薪水啦薪水要提高啦薪水就可以忍耐被虐待喔被霸凌喔委員這個薪水都提到那麼高了坦白說你要\n\n16\n00:06:14,718 --> 00:06:36,416\n這是坦白說這個虐待有的時候你其實去算一算也許加班費還是是不合因為你一定遠洋去外面作業他必須是一個有這樣的長工時的一種請問1955一年收到多少多少支這個申訴電話遠洋移工的電話有記錄嗎這我要我們再看一下多少我們都有記錄有沒有打成功過\n\n17\n00:06:45,158 --> 00:07:01,183\n有嗎?真的有打成功過?幾支吧?但是打了又怎麼處理?我可以知道嗎?好,我們把那個流程接到電話以後你們要怎麼處理?可見應該是沒有人打成功過啦\n\n18\n00:07:03,714 --> 00:07:15,628\n有記錄有派案然後也會專人去服務他很重要有母語能力的專人服務他下一個我們談一下USG業不走錢的勞動部的頒獎典禮有一個走秀\n\n19\n00:07:19,913 --> 00:07:47,041\n那當然基本上代表勞動部也是非常重視這個ESG推廣跟落實那部長您看一下那ESG的那個分類表它有幾類請問勞動部您是注重在哪個部分是環境圈、環境面、社會面還是公司治理面我們當然是S當然是叫S的社會面那我想請問一個原則請問部長這個僱主守法遵守勞動法令這是不是最基本的ESG的這個\n\n20\n00:07:48,061 --> 00:07:50,962\n勞動部2023年所補助的事業單位有200家前一年曾經違反勞動法令3次以上總共領了將近5000萬還有5家違法10次以上153家2023年持續違法\n\n21\n00:08:17,108 --> 00:08:30,257\n第2個更嚴重,122家連續3年都違法但是還是繼續領你們的就業基金,你們小金庫嘛,小金庫的補助那其中有16家違法20次,最高高達74次,而且有97家是在2023年持續違法\n\n22\n00:08:39,125 --> 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因為大部分沒有辦法靠港休息等等 欸這個都最嚴重的事也不過這樣而已啊我覺得那個漁業人權行動方案改善到現在 坦白講這些情況已經幾乎都沒有了可是它還列在這裡啊 這連續3年還沒有拿掉啊\n這是我們必須應該要主動去跟美方來提起有稅的問題你覺得我們的這個遠洋漁工沒有這樣的狀況你應該是請美國把這個名單拿掉我們正要做這個努力我們跟農業部要一起做這個努力很不名譽的事情是當然改善外籍這個漁工血汗的困境漁業署他是有提一個漁業與人權行動計劃他當然他就提到說勞動部也有相關的權責\n那他也提出了一些改善策略那但是當中剛剛你有報導一個1955專線我就這個部分我有幾個問題我想就逐一跟您討論第一個移工在海上工作他有辦法打這支電話嗎他有訊號嗎\n他一年到頭都是在船上欸他能打這支電話嗎1955委員這個遠洋移工當然是比較困難啦不過我們現在有提供裝設Wi-Fi嘛這也是這個漁業人權行動法案裡面一個重點那個普及率OK嗎現在普及率比較沒有那麼全面甚至比較還算低啦\n可是這個就牽涉到是衛星那個我們農業部都有在這個計畫當中就是看怎麼樣是用衛星通訊的方式來克服因為那另外其次就是說1955對於近海的漁工是OK的他們都可以打這個電話不過漁業署竟然把這個放上去了就可以用嘛這是第一個第二個那個漁工跟僱主我們只要想一下他們是住在同一條船上那我如果被你虐待\n我敢打電話嗎我有機會打電話嗎我可以躲起來打電話投訴嗎你想像那個情境如果這些都是來自這個是當然委員這個就是我們要去克服的問題嘛就是說我們希望也宣傳這個漁業組在跟在這方面能夠有這怎麼克服呢他們就住在同一條船上啊Wi-Fi的設置其實當然也是希望能夠有他們可以就進投訴啦\n還有包括文字客服我覺得可能有機會要去了解一下這些移工他們到底遇到了什麼困難委員他們的薪資已經提升到550塊美金了這已經接近國際的水準了這是其中一項而已嘛其實最重要是薪水啦薪水要提高啦薪水就可以忍耐被虐待喔被霸凌喔委員這個薪水都提到那麼高了坦白說你要\n這是坦白說這個虐待有的時候你其實去算一算也許加班費還是是不合因為你一定遠洋去外面作業他必須是一個有這樣的長工時的一種請問1955一年收到多少多少支這個申訴電話遠洋移工的電話有記錄嗎這我要我們再看一下多少我們都有記錄有沒有打成功過\n有嗎?真的有打成功過?幾支吧?但是打了又怎麼處理?我可以知道嗎?好,我們把那個流程接到電話以後你們要怎麼處理?可見應該是沒有人打成功過啦\n有記錄有派案然後也會專人去服務他很重要有母語能力的專人服務他下一個我們談一下USG業不走錢的勞動部的頒獎典禮有一個走秀\n那當然基本上代表勞動部也是非常重視這個ESG推廣跟落實那部長您看一下那ESG的那個分類表它有幾類請問勞動部您是注重在哪個部分是環境圈、環境面、社會面還是公司治理面我們當然是S當然是叫S的社會面那我想請問一個原則請問部長這個僱主守法遵守勞動法令這是不是最基本的ESG的這個\n勞動部2023年所補助的事業單位有200家前一年曾經違反勞動法令3次以上總共領了將近5000萬還有5家違法10次以上153家2023年持續違法\n第2個更嚴重,122家連續3年都違法但是還是繼續領你們的就業基金,你們小金庫嘛,小金庫的補助那其中有16家違法20次,最高高達74次,而且有97家是在2023年持續違法\n你把小金庫給這些有違法勞動法令的企業界這樣跟ESG倒著走嗎?是,委員這個我們必須檢討我們正在檢討中我認為這裡面搞不好人情啊、熟悉啊就是造發這樣是不對的你有這個基金你要獎勵的對象跟不該獎勵的對象要分得很清楚而且還有一個點就第三件事情多數計畫都規範了失業單位違反勞動法令清潔重大者\n不予補助你們是有這條規定可是你們並沒有說什麼叫做違反這個勞動法令情節重大你沒有做定義啊所以你等於違反累犯照零補助啊這個違反公平公正原則那這個部分怎麼辦這個法令怎麼辦我們會就這個做一些比較清楚的規範然後我們會做檢討然後我們把這個相關的資料送給委員好嗎\n陳昭之委員發言\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.235 --> 00:05.515\n請問已經開過了嗎?已經在進行\n\n00:30.657 --> 00:34.540\n我們在包括業別、人數其實都維持原來的我的這樣子的計畫沒有變化大概1000人大概以製造業為主\n\n01:00.617 --> 01:27.483\n這個有沒有定一個比例?因為這是一個新的來源國,我們一直希望從上個會期就一直期待那你有定一個目標嗎?職聘的目標嗎?大概是?5%為目標5%喔?現在1%?現在5%喔?為什麼我覺得說因為它是第一次進行的來源國但是部長也正是第一次,因為這次你主要是,據我了解是產業移工嘛那產業移工其實是企業界它是相對有比較多的資源啊\n\n01:28.403 --> 01:44.842\n你說這個一般的僱主他可能有困難但是企業的部分他有相當資源他是可以來承接或是職聘的這樣的一工作我記得有一次溝通會議也是請職聘的還這樣長跟職聘的一個還報告說他們做得很好啊所以不怕沒搞啦,部長\n\n01:46.210 --> 02:10.121\n委員真的這個齁因為是第一次來往齁我們跟印度這個來原國而且印度本身沒有職聘的這樣的系統所以我們要考量可行性啦所以先從5%開始以後可以進步好不好我們會來增加5%在醫學的統計學小於5%等於沒有但是我們會來調整我本來要跟你提出要五成一半一半啦因為你是產業移工嘛你知道我的重點是因為這是產業移工不是家庭的雇主\n\n02:15.323 --> 02:19.607\n如果是有能力來做一個對口請部長還是要考慮把這個標準提高我們的遠洋漁業已經連續3年被美國勞工部列在強迫勞動清單您知道這件事嗎當然\n\n02:32.279 --> 02:51.373\n那你認為這個勞動權益勞動部有沒有責任委員這方面我們跟漁業署就是農業部漁業署我們是共同在處理這件事我要跟您報告啊遠洋漁業的管理其實是漁業署他甚至他的因為他不屬於勞基法的範圍他是屬於漁業署的一個遠洋漁工管理辦法在處在管理的我可以同意那個漁業署他主責啦對對對但是勞工權益還是會遭到\n\n03:00.239 --> 03:15.203\n我們跟他們一起協作這個漁業人權行動方案已經從2020年開始到現在了事實上改進非常的多部長你看右邊這個圖你看他們幾個哪些問題這個也是我們要檢討我們應該要加強向美方澄清很嚴重欸金資被扣欸工時過長欸存帳生活條件惡劣不衛生欸生活照顧還有肢體虐待欸\n\n03:26.586 --> 03:35.829\n那靠港因為大部分沒有辦法靠港休息等等欸這個都最嚴重的事也不過這樣而已啊我覺得那個漁業人權行動方案改善到現在坦白講這些情況已經幾乎都沒有了可是它還列在這裡啊這連續3年還沒有拿掉啊\n\n03:43.471 --> 04:06.179\n這是我們必須應該要主動去跟美方來提起有稅的問題你覺得我們的這個遠洋漁工沒有這樣的狀況你應該是請美國把這個名單拿掉我們正要做這個努力我們跟農業部要一起做這個努力很不名譽的事情是當然改善外籍這個漁工血汗的困境漁業署他是有提一個漁業與人權行動計劃他當然他就提到說勞動部也有相關的權責\n\n04:10.700 --> 04:25.128\n那他也提出了一些改善策略那但是當中剛剛你有報導一個1955專線我就這個部分我有幾個問題我想就逐一跟您討論第一個移工在海上工作他有辦法打這支電話嗎他有訊號嗎\n\n04:29.031 --> 04:49.509\n他一年到頭都是在船上欸他能打這支電話嗎1955委員這個遠洋移工當然是比較困難啦不過我們現在有提供裝設Wi-Fi嘛這也是這個漁業人權行動法案裡面一個重點那個普及率OK嗎現在普及率比較沒有那麼全面甚至比較還算低啦\n\n04:49.969 --> 05:17.251\n可是這個就牽涉到是衛星那個我們農業部都有在這個計畫當中就是看怎麼樣是用衛星通訊的方式來克服因為那另外其次就是說1955對於近海的漁工是OK的他們都可以打這個電話不過漁業署竟然把這個放上去了就可以用嘛這是第一個第二個那個漁工跟僱主我們只要想一下他們是住在同一條船上那我如果被你虐待\n\n05:18.312 --> 05:46.644\n我敢打電話嗎我有機會打電話嗎我可以躲起來打電話投訴嗎你想像那個情境如果這些都是來自這個是當然委員這個就是我們要去克服的問題嘛就是說我們希望也宣傳這個漁業組在跟在這方面能夠有這怎麼克服呢他們就住在同一條船上啊Wi-Fi的設置其實當然也是希望能夠有他們可以就進投訴啦\n\n05:48.151 --> 06:13.638\n還有包括文字客服我覺得可能有機會要去了解一下這些移工他們到底遇到了什麼困難委員他們的薪資已經提升到550塊美金了這已經接近國際的水準了這是其中一項而已嘛其實最重要是薪水啦薪水要提高啦薪水就可以忍耐被虐待喔被霸凌喔委員這個薪水都提到那麼高了坦白說你要\n\n06:14.718 --> 06:36.416\n這是坦白說這個虐待有的時候你其實去算一算也許加班費還是是不合因為你一定遠洋去外面作業他必須是一個有這樣的長工時的一種請問1955一年收到多少多少支這個申訴電話遠洋移工的電話有記錄嗎這我要我們再看一下多少我們都有記錄有沒有打成功過\n\n06:45.158 --> 07:01.183\n有嗎?真的有打成功過?幾支吧?但是打了又怎麼處理?我可以知道嗎?好,我們把那個流程接到電話以後你們要怎麼處理?可見應該是沒有人打成功過啦\n\n07:03.714 --> 07:15.628\n有記錄有派案然後也會專人去服務他很重要有母語能力的專人服務他下一個我們談一下USG業不走錢的勞動部的頒獎典禮有一個走秀\n\n07:19.913 --> 07:47.041\n那當然基本上代表勞動部也是非常重視這個ESG推廣跟落實那部長您看一下那ESG的那個分類表它有幾類請問勞動部您是注重在哪個部分是環境圈、環境面、社會面還是公司治理面我們當然是S當然是叫S的社會面那我想請問一個原則請問部長這個僱主守法遵守勞動法令這是不是最基本的ESG的這個\n\n07:48.061 --> 07:50.962\n勞動部2023年所補助的事業單位有200家前一年曾經違反勞動法令3次以上總共領了將近5000萬還有5家違法10次以上153家2023年持續違法\n\n08:17.108 --> 08:30.257\n第2個更嚴重,122家連續3年都違法但是還是繼續領你們的就業基金,你們小金庫嘛,小金庫的補助那其中有16家違法20次,最高高達74次,而且有97家是在2023年持續違法\n\n08:39.125 --> 09:07.202\n你把小金庫給這些有違法勞動法令的企業界這樣跟ESG倒著走嗎?是,委員這個我們必須檢討我們正在檢討中我認為這裡面搞不好人情啊、熟悉啊就是造發這樣是不對的你有這個基金你要獎勵的對象跟不該獎勵的對象要分得很清楚而且還有一個點就第三件事情多數計畫都規範了失業單位違反勞動法令清潔重大者\n\n09:07.642 --> 09:32.902\n不予補助你們是有這條規定可是你們並沒有說什麼叫做違反這個勞動法令情節重大你沒有做定義啊所以你等於違反累犯照零補助啊這個違反公平公正原則那這個部分怎麼辦這個法令怎麼辦我們會就這個做一些比較清楚的規範然後我們會做檢討然後我們把這個相關的資料送給委員好嗎\n\n09:34.003 --> 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