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00:00:19,042\n認識的朋友\n\n3\n00:00:37,125 --> 00:00:37,785\n我們國內的音樂家在國外演出的非常多\n\n4\n00:01:08,271 --> 00:01:31,648\n部長,我們其實很多過去的外交官尤其我們的駐外大使他不一定是外交本身出身但是呢起碼他也都在我們自己的政府內擔任過重要的職務不管是之前的謝長廷或者是林議員、童振元或莊碩翰等等\n\n5\n00:01:32,449 --> 00:01:57,019\n可是啊﹖這位劉永璇﹖劉璇勇﹖因為事實上真的非常非常的陌生那他是音樂家﹖從來沒有過外交經驗﹖也沒有過政府單位的一個歷練只因為是部長的好朋友﹖所以今天我們的外交難道是龍有有外交嗎?\n\n6\n00:01:57,659 --> 00:01:58,320\n其實這個人是在你們外交系統引起了非常大的震撼\n\n7\n00:02:25,723 --> 00:02:25,763\n王鴻薇議員\n\n8\n00:02:41,856 --> 00:03:04,037\n結果呢卻是由龍有有然後一個完全沒有外交經驗那我覺得我們現場這麼多的這個外交系統的有很豐富外交經歷請問一下他們情何以堪啊所以我就說這個是不會啊我們這個職業外交官我們也非常多都在重要的管處啊當任大使跟代表那邊都不能走啊\n\n9\n00:03:04,737 --> 00:03:22,974\n想要吊都不能吊啊,你可以回去去查一下,因為我在昨天有寫了我跟委員報告齁,因為奧地利齁,這個是可以說歐洲啊,這個音樂的首都啦我們要跟人家交流齁,多一個媒介,阿他的條件也不是說只是一個音樂家嘛,還有做過團長,這行政經驗很豐富對不對,有很多在那邊苦撐待變,苦撐待吊的,你也能不能照顧一下\n\n10\n00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:38,705\n有要想調來跟我講,你們想要在哪裡有目標我一定幫你們看圓夢不能夠講這不矛盾的事也變成都沒有外交經驗,只要你認識就好我最近上任,如果你去看看真的我們公務員很優秀的職業外交官幫我們很多的外交官要說一下話他們敢怒不敢言請問一下\n\n11\n00:03:58,496 --> 00:04:00,698\nAPEC領袖代表已經內定是原來的林信義副院長了嗎?因為這個現在還在進行中\n\n12\n00:04:14,708 --> 00:04:25,998\n依照過去的例子會適當的時候來對外正式的公佈開記者會當然這個也是府方會正式公佈因為他是總統的代表\n\n13\n00:04:30,942 --> 00:04:53,379\n那因為時間也很緊迫了那外界也非常關心那麼因為本來是希望陳建仁副總統那被秘魯拒絕那我們當然還是希望就過去都是張忠謀先生但他已經高齡了嘛所以呢現在是不是由林信義前副院長來代表大概這個禮拜會公佈嗎\n\n14\n00:04:54,608 --> 00:04:55,789\n陳水扁總統、馬英九總統、蔡英文總統\n\n15\n00:05:24,108 --> 00:05:48,182\n其實在他首度就職我講的是首度就職其實也都蠻快的那個像陳隨便總統跟馬英九總統是在8月份他們就出訪然後呢蔡英文總統是6月份他就出訪但是現在都一直等不到我們的賴總統出訪啊也過了大概半年了大半年所以我們賴總統什麼時候可以出訪呢\n\n16\n00:05:49,744 --> 00:05:51,786\n等確定之後就會對外說明今年之內可不可能成行?\n\n17\n00:05:59,844 --> 00:06:26,135\n做幕僚的這個單位我們都要規劃各種的方案來為元首的外交包括總統的出訪我想這個適當的時機跟這個訪問的對象應該由總統府方面來說明有沒有機會因為按照過去的經驗說實在台灣的這個外交環境事實上都一直很艱困的都一直很艱困你說中共打壓吧中共打壓是無所不在\n\n18\n00:06:27,455 --> 00:06:27,615\n信心喔?\n\n19\n00:06:50,236 --> 00:06:50,416\n美國總統大選11月5日\n\n20\n00:07:08,985 --> 00:07:20,342\n那現在呢這兩位候選人呢非常膠著那這兩位候選人不管是哪一位當選其實對台灣事實上都會有一定的衝擊這個衝擊不僅僅只是一個外交或國際情勢的衝擊\n\n21\n00:07:24,527 --> 00:07:51,443\n還有經貿上面的衝擊那我想請問外交部針對美國總統大選的結果我們有沒有做出一些因應的政策或者已經提出報告給總統也好或者給我們這個國安系統讓他們能夠掌握不管這兩位哪一位擔任總統對台灣的衝擊是什麼我們的因應措施是什麼準備好了嗎\n\n22\n00:07:52,560 --> 00:08:06,765\n有,我們針對不同的選舉結果都做好隱隱的而且事先有做一些當然也必須要有一些準備美國總統大選出爐之後對台灣影響最大衝擊最大的是哪一方面\n\n23\n00:08:09,507 --> 00:08:35,510\n對台灣的衝擊我想他們的外交政策特別是他們的印太戰略當然有分成安全的層面涉及到地緣政治也有一些屬於經濟方面的當然長期來講我們都是理念相近的民主國家這個我們很有信心部長另外請教一下在你們的方案中有沒有包括一個\n\n24\n00:08:36,431 --> 00:09:04,308\n在11月5號或者短期內美國總統大選沒有結果有沒有這個項目我想基於這個對未來趨勢跟可能的這個情境的這個研判我們是對各不同的選舉結果都有所準備跟因應最後就提醒我們部長跟外交部因為根據過去的經驗因為尤其他們這一次非常咬得很緊\n\n25\n00:09:05,709 --> 00:09:23,102\n所以有可能等到7月5號選完之後可能輸的那一方會要求驗票搞不好短時間內還沒有辦法正式出爐所以呢請外交為什麼特別來講其實我覺得對我們的經貿的部分其實影響是極大的\n\n26\n00:09:23,422 --> 00:09:24,003\n好我們再加強謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1116\t16803\t主席 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