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00:02:34,969\n運動外交是一個非常重要的工作例如說以美國來說國務院有運動外交部門日本有東京奧運東協十國計畫澳洲有運動外交2030英國也有2021到2031的運動策略計畫沙烏地阿拉伯的願景2030\n\n9\n00:02:44,853 --> 00:02:45,553\n我再次跟部長分享以劉伯君為例\n\n10\n00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:11,640\n這個部份部長你怎麼看?\n\n11\n00:03:35,972 --> 00:03:58,594\n確實其實運動外交因為各國都有相對應的政策或機構那我們會進行來對接那找出合作的項目比如說以美國來講他這個AIT就很重視劉伯鈞的無人鎖大使那我想在台美之間很多的項目可以一起來推動他對美國國務院也是他們有參加過他們的課程\n\n12\n00:04:00,197 --> 00:04:09,692\n更了解其實運動外交包括性別平等還有其他的一些運動員相關的權益的推廣這些也都是在運動外交的範圍\n\n13\n00:04:11,132 --> 00:04:37,123\n聽起來從上次六月跟部長對話到現在我發現部長對於運動外交的認識越來越多這個部分我聽得非常開心意思就是說我相信在部長您的領導之下一定台灣的運動外交可以做得更好除了博君是一個非常重要的例子但有沒有可能換位思考例如說博君就跟我們分享過其實我們自己也有能力去協助別的國家的女性運動或者是運動從業人員他們的價值可以被肯定讓這些\n\n14\n00:04:38,283 --> 00:05:07,651\n不同國家的朋友可以透過運動外交跟臺灣建立關係我們來看下一頁例如說之前盧伯鈞他們的臺灣運動好事協會他們跟孟加納女藍有做相關賠利計畫他們甚至還有木運動內衣捐贈到國外去可是這中間因為他當時並沒有無任所大使的身份他在做這些事情上遇到非常多的困難包含簽證跨國聯繫的工作但是我相信從伯鈞擔任無任所大使之後\n\n15\n00:05:08,231 --> 00:05:09,471\n以這個運動內衣的捐贈或是運動相關的這些：女力或是課程的賠利\n\n16\n00:05:32,138 --> 00:05:51,051\n對我們會來推動我講是說其實台灣在紡織業在機能性服裝上其實很多運動員都是穿我們台灣製的那這個方面也是我們的強項所以除了運動內衣之外有一些競賽及有一些他們的衣服裝或者是設備其實這方面的推廣\n\n17\n00:05:51,852 --> 00:05:54,033\n其實女性在運動上相對處於有時候會比較不利或被歧視的情形所以這個是我們可以切入的重點\n\n18\n00:06:18,789 --> 00:06:45,078\n其實部長剛剛講到不只是產業的問題或是性別的問題或者是兒少培力的問題其實都是無認所大使劉伯鈞他在過去沒有這個身份之前他就非常積極在從事的事情那我們來看下一頁其實我談這麼多的案例我先回到光是在巴黎奧運其實駐法外館的同仁全力支援巴黎奧運這件事情是不是也要拜託部長先公開的給予同仁相對的鼓勵\n\n19\n00:06:46,109 --> 00:07:00,035\n有,我其實那時候跟吳志忠還有代表還有後來郝培斯代表因為剛好在奧運跟帕運之間我們其實是密切的聯繫所以相關的包括他們的訓練中心還有相關的這些文化奧運\n\n20\n00:07:01,255 --> 00:07:15,840\n所以這個密切聯繫我們的外管在這一次扮演很重要的角色那下一次因為是在洛杉磯我們應該有更好的條件可以把目標再更提高\n\n21\n00:07:16,220 --> 00:07:44,719\n好謝謝部長幫我把我想要講的話講出來如果我們在法國就已經有這麼好的成績那美國相對跟台灣是友善的國家有非常多的討論可以開始進行但是部長剛有提到運動部所以如果我們不要只等著運動部外交部是不是可以率先啟動相關的準備作業因為事實上雖然時間看起來是2028但其實我們所剩時間不多可不可以由外交部這邊更積極的發起所謂運動外交更多的想像跟政策開始推動\n\n22\n00:07:45,509 --> 00:07:58,749\n我們會跟現在其實教育部體育署也是有相關的業務那當然未來運動部現在已經都設立好明年要成立我們會就是同步來作業無縫接軌好同步作業所以這邊我們會積極跟外交部開會\n\n23\n00:08:01,643 --> 00:08:27,023\n我有請我們同仁針對運動外交相關的人就是能夠組合起來大家來討論我們要推動的這個事項所以根據我們今天談的三個事情一個是我認為外交部必須要定期有專人主動跟無認所大使聯繫針對大使的工作目標提供相關業務的協助就如同我說的他之前為了推動非常多運動的外交\n\n24\n00:08:27,443 --> 00:08:27,543\n﹚陳培瑜\n\n25\n00:08:43,720 --> 00:09:08,654\n我已經有跟劉伯鈞﹑吳任所大使有……﹖吳任所大使只是其中一個例子啦﹖其實每一位吳任所大使都有他們的專家﹖然後戴志穎﹖吳任所大使我們也會來瞭解他的想要推動的重點﹖好那這個部分我希望我們在一個月內有相關的規劃報告跟執行狀況﹖第二個喔﹖運動外交不能再只是依賴這些吳任所大使﹖不要讓這些大使孤軍作戰﹖我們希望外交部跟體育署就是未來的運動部要定期的工作匯報﹖這個部分部長您覺得會有困難嗎﹖\n\n26\n00:09:11,435 --> 00:09:34,876\n有關怎麼去進行我們會來進行委員提示的重點我們也會特別重視那最後一個就是2028洛杉磯奧運我相信我們在剛剛討論當中部長應該知道更多人對於運動外交的想像是他是一個柔性的他是一個軟性的他可以有更多的面向可以一起進行那這邊也要拜託外交部積極努力\n\n27\n00:09:36,642 --> 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其實運動外交 因為各國都有相對應的政策或機構 那我們會進行來對接 那找出合作的項目比如說以美國來講 他這個AIT 就很重視劉伯鈞的無人鎖大使那我想在台美之間很多的項目可以一起來推動他對美國國務院 也是他們有參加過他們的課程\n更了解其實運動外交包括性別平等還有其他的一些運動員相關的權益的推廣這些也都是在運動外交的範圍\n聽起來從上次六月跟部長對話到現在我發現部長對於運動外交的認識越來越多這個部分我聽得非常開心意思就是說我相信在部長您的領導之下一定台灣的運動外交可以做得更好除了博君是一個非常重要的例子但有沒有可能換位思考例如說博君就跟我們分享過其實我們自己也有能力去協助別的國家的女性運動或者是運動從業人員他們的價值可以被肯定讓這些\n不同國家的朋友可以透過運動外交跟臺灣建立關係我們來看下一頁例如說之前盧伯鈞他們的臺灣運動好事協會他們跟孟加納女藍有做相關賠利計畫他們甚至還有木運動內衣捐贈到國外去可是這中間因為他當時並沒有無任所大使的身份他在做這些事情上遇到非常多的困難包含簽證跨國聯繫的工作但是我相信從伯鈞擔任無任所大使之後\n以這個運動內衣的捐贈或是運動相關的這些：女力或是課程的賠利\n對 我們會來推動 我講是說其實台灣在紡織業在機能性服裝上其實很多運動員都是穿我們台灣製的那這個方面也是我們的強項所以除了運動內衣之外有一些競賽及有一些他們的衣服裝或者是設備其實這方面的推廣\n其實女性在運動上相對處於有時候會比較不利或被歧視的情形所以這個是我們可以切入的重點\n其實部長剛剛講到不只是產業的問題或是性別的問題或者是兒少培力的問題其實都是無認所大使劉伯鈞他在過去沒有這個身份之前他就非常積極在從事的事情那我們來看下一頁其實我談這麼多的案例我先回到光是在巴黎奧運其實駐法外館的同仁全力支援巴黎奧運這件事情是不是也要拜託部長先公開的給予同仁相對的鼓勵\n有,我其實那時候跟吳志忠還有代表還有後來郝培斯代表因為剛好在奧運跟帕運之間我們其實是密切的聯繫所以相關的包括他們的訓練中心還有相關的這些文化奧運\n所以這個密切聯繫我們的外管在這一次扮演很重要的角色那下一次因為是在洛杉磯我們應該有更好的條件可以把目標再更提高\n好謝謝部長幫我把我想要講的話講出來如果我們在法國就已經有這麼好的成績那美國相對跟台灣是友善的國家有非常多的討論可以開始進行但是部長剛有提到運動部所以如果我們不要只等著運動部外交部是不是可以率先啟動相關的準備作業因為事實上雖然時間看起來是2028但其實我們所剩時間不多可不可以由外交部這邊更積極的發起所謂運動外交更多的想像跟政策開始推動\n我們會跟現在其實教育部體育署也是有相關的業務那當然未來運動部現在已經都設立好明年要成立我們會就是同步來作業無縫接軌好同步作業所以這邊我們會積極跟外交部開會\n我有請我們同仁針對運動外交相關的人就是能夠組合起來大家來討論我們要推動的這個事項所以根據我們今天談的三個事情一個是我認為外交部必須要定期有專人主動跟無認所大使聯繫針對大使的工作目標提供相關業務的協助就如同我說的他之前為了推動非常多運動的外交\n﹚陳培瑜\n我已經有跟劉伯鈞﹑吳任所大使有……﹖吳任所大使只是其中一個例子啦﹖其實每一位吳任所大使都有他們的專家﹖然後戴志穎﹖吳任所大使我們也會來瞭解他的想要推動的重點﹖好那這個部分我希望我們在一個月內有相關的規劃報告跟執行狀況﹖第二個喔﹖運動外交不能再只是依賴這些吳任所大使﹖不要讓這些大使孤軍作戰﹖我們希望外交部跟體育署就是未來的運動部要定期的工作匯報﹖這個部分部長您覺得會有困難嗎﹖\n有關怎麼去進行我們會來進行委員提示的重點我們也會特別重視那最後一個就是2028洛杉磯奧運我相信我們在剛剛討論當中部長應該知道更多人對於運動外交的想像是他是一個柔性的他是一個軟性的他可以有更多的面向可以一起進行那這邊也要拜託外交部積極努力\n陳培瑜\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.410 --> 00:08.339\n好謝謝主席有請部長秦林部長\n\n00:15.402 --> 00:39.571\n部長午安辛苦了部長我之前在6月的時候跟您討論過運動外交不知道部長有沒有印象那不過很棒的是在上個禮拜總統府發布邀請了戴資穎還有劉伯鈞這兩位我們都非常熟悉的傑出運動人士擔任無人所大使那我想之後呢外交部在運動外交這個部分因為有這兩位大使的協助應該可以著力更深\n\n00:41.613 --> 00:52.269\n10月7日,我看到部長您跟大使有參與,不知道參與過程中,您有沒有跟他們兩個稍微聊了一下,那外交部接下來在運動外交有沒有什麼著力的方向?\n\n00:53.177 --> 01:22.457\n是,因為我們現在政府要成立運動部,我們外交部也同步,就是針對這個相關的運動外交在做一些規劃,那包括我們對無人所大使的角色,我們也希望能夠透過他們跟國際來更多的交流合作,那也會有一個無人所大使的一個聯繫的辦公室跟相關的行政協助,\n\n01:24.178 --> 01:33.585\n這幾天舉行亞洲帕拉林匹克委員會,我們也全力支持,也有跟主辦單位表達希望能跟運動外交結合,包括無任所大使的角色\n\n01:51.338 --> 01:53.642\n明年世界壯流運動會也是我們近期的一個重點\n\n02:00.644 --> 02:00.724\n其實從聯合國\n\n02:27.406 --> 02:34.969\n運動外交是一個非常重要的工作例如說以美國來說國務院有運動外交部門日本有東京奧運東協十國計畫澳洲有運動外交2030英國也有2021到2031的運動策略計畫沙烏地阿拉伯的願景2030\n\n02:44.853 --> 02:45.553\n我再次跟部長分享以劉伯君為例\n\n03:11.300 --> 03:11.640\n這個部份部長你怎麼看?\n\n03:35.972 --> 03:58.594\n確實其實運動外交因為各國都有相對應的政策或機構那我們會進行來對接那找出合作的項目比如說以美國來講他這個AIT就很重視劉伯鈞的無人鎖大使那我想在台美之間很多的項目可以一起來推動他對美國國務院也是他們有參加過他們的課程\n\n04:00.197 --> 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