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00:03:24,572\n收集他在財委會發言過的財政收支劃分法從五大原則到六大原則講來講去答應說什麼要擴大財政規模提升地方財政自主我再說一次要擴大財政規模提升地方財政自主每一次上來質詢問財政部持續在研議\n\n9\n00:03:30,068 --> 00:03:42,232\n2012年的時候、在野的時候民眾黨自己就有黨團版啦到2016年全面執政的時候做出了承諾到現在2024年啊之前在財政委員會質詢都說什麼說我們持續研議從頭到尾都是騙局我為什麼說從頭到尾都是騙局當你們說研議的時候就是沒有要修啦\n\n10\n00:03:58,763 --> 00:04:00,264\n用偷的用混的啊因為左榮泰講了大實話左榮泰說啊現行的版本是最棒的版本他說現行的版本是最棒的版本啊跟12年前比啊12年前的版本不就是今天的版本嗎12年前的時候說什麼非修不可\n\n11\n00:04:26,516 --> 00:04:51,584\n2016年的時候當選的時候非休不可2018年耐心得當行政院院長的時候說一定要休到2024年在我們的財政部多年的研議不斷的研議情緒的研議研議到今天終於現出原形啦現形的版本是最棒的版本那過去這幾年政治人物\n\n12\n00:04:55,154 --> 00:05:23,818\n對台灣社會做的許諾是要講什麼?開空投支票騙選票在國會說什麼?我們持續的研議有五大原則有六大原則研議到最後左邊派現出原形了嘛現形的版本是最棒的版本為什麼現形的版本是最棒的版本?因為現形的版本讓中央政府把錢全部握在手上\n\n13\n00:05:26,107 --> 00:05:31,992\n這不正是過去12年前那時候在戰友的時候還有理想性的民主進步黨痛批了財政收支劃分法嗎我覺得這段歷程\n\n14\n00:05:53,806 --> 00:06:14,484\n一定要清楚地記錄下來一定要清楚地記錄下來接下來我相信雖然我聽到今天很多不管是民主進步黨的委員還是在野黨的委員大家的高見接下來修法的時候都是重要的參考依據\n\n15\n00:06:16,516 --> 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