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00:03:00,766\n我們原本的計畫是希望在合定之後的10年之內要完工合定之後就是由政院合定之後我們希望趕10年之內可以趕快完成給宜蘭的鄉親\n\n9\n00:03:02,495 --> 00:03:26,911\n我還是拜託我們部長跟院長我們如果假設在這個過程裡面我們可以完善所有的相關配套那減少這個工程期間的這個交通黑暗期包括未來的這個高鐵延伸、移燃我都希望能夠縮短期程能夠讓整個工程可以盡早來完工這個部分可能要請我們教導我們會設法來提升效率在地方上需要的盡快完成\n\n10\n00:03:27,950 --> 00:03:47,937\n另外我們宜蘭往南的一個交通路網最主要的應該就是蘇蛙公路了那在近期內看到這個風災還有地震的情況導致我們這個蘇蛙公路在崇德的那一段好像很明顯因為土石沖刷導致那個地方不管是道路或鐵路\n\n11\n00:03:48,387 --> 00:03:48,827\n部長,我們目前進度到哪裡?\n\n12\n00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:29,714\n報告委員,我們蘇花庵的部分在10月15日國發會有召開會議,那也予以支持。所以之後我們公路局就會接續來辦理設計還有用地取得。我們希望在121年能夠完工,達到通車的階段。這是蘇花庵的部分。那國道5號接蘇花改的部分也剛好在今年的10月16日也得到了國發會的支持。\n\n13\n00:04:30,114 --> 00:04:54,070\n那我們也是一樣,一併跟蘇花安一樣,我們希望在民國121年能夠達到通車的階段。都是121年?對,我們都希望能夠努力在121年能夠達到通車的階段。這個我們期待啦,期待這個安全的道路盡早來完工。我相信是讓民眾通行更加安全無虞,也是我們政府這個利益良善的一個出發點。那另外就是針對\n\n14\n00:04:55,046 --> 00:04:55,066\n韓國瑜議員\n\n15\n00:05:25,026 --> 00:05:25,206\n﹚陳俊宇\n\n16\n00:05:43,604 --> 00:05:44,124\n三、10月18日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。\n\n17\n00:06:02,978 --> 00:06:03,018\n好,謝謝部長\n\n18\n00:06:27,709 --> 00:06:47,063\n接續要問的就是藍色公路在1975年的時候曾經我們有花蓮輪往返基隆到花蓮當時這條路線也是非常的夯也造成許多民眾可能有一種度假形式搭乘的心態\n\n19\n00:06:48,766 --> 00:07:09,146\n他當時他是船運比較慢,他如果從花蓮開到基隆可能是7.5個小時,也就是晚上開船之後,民眾就上船就開始睡覺,然後到基隆可能就是早上就可以去上班或去旅遊。那當然現在的船隻的運輸的速度應該也都提升了。\n\n20\n00:07:10,686 --> 00:07:25,105\n之前也有利納倫的加入,因為蘇花改完工之後,減少通車的時間,也降低相關通行的安全之後,利納倫就黯然收場了。\n\n21\n00:07:29,509 --> 00:07:56,236\n現在就看起來假設我們現在蘇花改跟蘇花安工程還沒有完成之前剛剛陳儒部長您所說的我們也有在規劃看能不能再增加一條這個藍色公路我希望說可不可以讓它變成是常態性可是這個有兩個原因兩個這個部分需要我們這個中央部會要去協助的就是有沒有辦法再縮短\n\n22\n00:07:56,957 --> 00:08:07,996\n航運的時間這個可能就是要選擇船隻他可能運輸的時間會比較快一點這是第一點減少運輸時間第二就是可能要降低這個票價的部分\n\n23\n00:08:09,417 --> 00:08:29,448\n我希望說這個部分看能不能交通部去研議看看有機會的話把藍色公路再重新建置起來增加誘因讓民眾可以這個選擇搭乘海運的部分有沒有辦法報告委員我們這個航港局我有交代他們在9月18號有召開了藍色公路的這個可行性的這個\n\n24\n00:08:30,128 --> 00:08:31,529\n這部分要請部長後續再增加這個機會因為蘇澳這個\n\n25\n00:08:59,787 --> 00:09:11,802\n蘇澳港的新建旅運中心也順利在6月30起用了那未來我們也希望說這一條藍色公路建置之後不管是我們國內的跳島旅遊還是我們現在目前\n\n26\n00:09:12,352 --> 00:09:17,835\n我相信這個藍色公路也可以相對的帶動宜蘭的相關的這個產業跟觀光的發展,所以請我們交通部這邊更加的積極的來辦理。另外就是我們這個宜蘭縣,宜蘭縣物產豐富\n\n27\n00:09:38,466 --> 00:10:02,863\n這個自然的風景美不勝收這我相信在我們全台灣旅遊的這個廊帶上宜蘭縣應該是排名在前三名那我想我們有沒有機會可以來爭取宜蘭縣單獨申請這個國家級的風景區管理處全面來規劃推展宜蘭的這個觀光院長這個有沒有可能\n\n28\n00:10:06,014 --> 00:10:24,862\n關光的事情當然全國各地好的地點還是要經過評估啦那現在就交通部夜館裡面已經有很多的風景區是國家交通部那是不是要增設一套的評鑑的標準跟選擇的標準我們請交通部來跟委員商量一下怎麼來進行\n\n29\n00:10:27,377 --> 00:10:51,994\n這部分可能就請部長我們會後再討論這個好了我希望說能夠在宜蘭縣單獨來成立一個風景區管理處的話我相信這個量能才能夠支應宜蘭縣相關的觀光需求現階段我想請教就是東北角風景區管理處那因為他所這個轄管的範圍太大了\n\n30\n00:10:55,472 --> 00:11:04,900\n他北起是我們新北的瑞芳南到宜蘭縣的南方澳的內埤海灣總面積是達到17,130公頃海岸線的長度是102.5公里所以他整個範圍這麼的寬資源有限\n\n31\n00:11:18,541 --> 00:11:44,709\n我是覺得說他在挹注在宜蘭的部分可能沒辦法支應讓整個宜蘭縣的需求都能夠滿足所以才會要求說看能不能單獨來申請那現在我們地方就是形成一個這個現階段的要求就是希望我們能夠南沿到這個宜蘭縣跟花蓮的這個交界口和平溪口和平溪的這個溪口\n\n32\n00:11:45,185 --> 00:12:13,240\n那部長這個部分有沒有可能?這個部分我們其實也在研議當中啦我們7月9號已經有委託專業的這個顧問公司在針對範圍擴大的部分來做檢討那我們陳經德政委也非常關心這個議題他也曾經到縣地去看那也有特別要求說我們這個南沿的部分要盡量來努力來協助協助宜蘭的這個觀光的發展那目前我們正在研究不過委員您剛剛所提到確實我們這個東北角的這個管理處的管轄範圍實在是非常的大\n\n33\n00:12:13,860 --> 00:12:14,761\n東北角風景區管理處目前編制是58個員額\n\n34\n00:12:43,660 --> 00:13:04,313\n我們行政院目前核定有15個員額有可能就是欲缺不補那會造成未來假設我們整個風景區管理處的轄管的範圍增大可是人員又不足的情況之下有可能在未來5年會從58個人剩下40個人那這個情況我們要怎麼因應\n\n35\n00:13:05,909 --> 00:13:30,947\n我們盡量來爭取緣額,這是一方面,二方面針對工作效率上有沒有什麼更可以優化或精進的部分,但是人力的緣額我們會努力來爭取。那另外我們宜蘭縣,我剛剛講我們的天然資源非常的豐富,那我們的山、海、還有野溪、還有這個海洋的部分,我們宜蘭縣總共有19處的溫泉。\n\n36\n00:13:33,405 --> 00:14:00,795\n還有一處是全世界唯二、亞洲唯一的人權所以在宜蘭縣我們有這麼豐富的水資源可是我們沒辦法去好好的行銷在我們有時候我不曉得我們院長跟部長您出國的當下如果我們今天要去日本會不會去看行程說我們今天晚上這個行程裡面有沒有其中一個晚上可以在日本的哪一個地方可以好好的泡湯來這個\n\n37\n00:14:02,529 --> 00:14:29,698\n休息一下假設我們可以把這種概念加注在這個這個我們宜蘭縣推廣這個觀光的行銷上我要拜託我們交通部能不能協助來建構一個平台由我們中央的這個交通部這邊配合地方的縣政府還有這個還有原民會要加入因為有一些野溪的這個溫泉是在這個原住民這個部落裡面\n\n38\n00:14:30,424 --> 00:14:58,138\n那再加上地方的這些鄉鎮市公所把這個平臺架構好之後包括我們剛剛講的這些溫泉還有一些優質的這些觀光旅宿業那還有我們宜蘭縣有17處的這個休閒農業區再加上一些優質的這些這個農特產品還有美食的這個餐飲業我想這個平臺架構完成之後能夠提供給遊客\n\n39\n00:14:59,933 --> 00:15:03,783\n來到台灣甚至要去宜蘭深度旅遊的時候有一個比較明確的選擇\n\n40\n00:15:05,455 --> 00:15:10,597\n我想這部分可不可以請交通部來協助一下?我們希望說未來宜蘭縣市好山好水好氣頭好不好?\n\n41\n00:15:38,237 --> 00:15:38,518\n好,謝謝陳委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n14090\t39082\t好,謝謝大會主席、我們江副院長。那有請我們的卓院長。卓院長請備詢。議長教授。政委好。議長教授,辛苦了,辛苦了。這段時間為了我們綜藝省的部分,一定非常用心,多虧我們的行政團隊死在本坡。感謝你。\n42677\t54990\t當然這個整個我們國家的政策還有我們相關的建設也都是延續性的那也特別感謝我們左院長對於我們整個這個重責大任的承攬\n56021\t80271\t那我再次我也要謝謝我們在野黨幾位立委。 最近這段期間,對於藝人館的交通建設或是一些技展聲音, 能夠進入同樣的想法,在向我們行政院來要求和拜託。 我也希望說未來在我們党運中大量的行政團隊, 能夠做回來為藝人,我們來拚建設、聽官說。 拜託我們一定。\n84226\t109817\t首先我想要請教議長就是對於宜蘭鐵路工業的部分目前我們所進行的是在六月12日通過環境的影響評估順利在9月2日我們的經費部分遞到中央的增援已經有著落目前進入的是綜合部委會部分我想要請教議長就是說\n112014\t119421\t因為在年底的部分,我們有機會會報應來請出這個協定的結尾,我拜託議長就是針對這個部分,要盡量來幫我們倒三天。 兩年來到底有發生什麼事嗎?\n127760\t144868\t中規之後鐵道局還要送到交通部去審議,那如果其中順利的話,我想往後推的速度我們就可以掌握,那如果還有一些問題交通部應該積極去解決,交通部比較了解。我們盡量努力在兩年之內來動工。兩年內可以順利來動工?\n147449\t148770\t那兩年動工,那我們有沒有一個期程,大概什麼時候可以?\n171390\t180766\t我們原本的計畫是希望在合定之後的10年之內要完工合定之後就是由政院合定之後我們希望趕10年之內可以趕快完成給宜蘭的鄉親\n182495\t206911\t我還是拜託我們部長跟院長我們如果假設在這個過程裡面我們可以完善所有的相關配套那減少這個工程期間的這個交通黑暗期包括未來的這個高鐵延伸、移燃我都希望能夠縮短期程能夠讓整個工程可以盡早來完工這個部分可能要請我們教導我們會設法來提升效率在地方上需要的盡快完成\n207950\t227937\t另外我們宜蘭往南的一個交通路網最主要的應該就是蘇蛙公路了那在近期內看到這個風災還有地震的情況導致我們這個蘇蛙公路在崇德的那一段好像很明顯因為土石沖刷導致那個地方不管是道路或鐵路\n228387\t228827\t部長,我們目前進度到哪裡?\n244200\t269714\t報告委員,我們蘇花庵的部分在10月15日國發會有召開會議,那也予以支持。所以之後我們公路局就會接續來辦理設計還有用地取得。我們希望在121年能夠完工,達到通車的階段。這是蘇花庵的部分。那國道5號接蘇花改的部分也剛好在今年的10月16日也得到了國發會的支持。\n270114\t294070\t那我們也是一樣,一併跟蘇花安一樣,我們希望在民國121年能夠達到通車的階段。都是121年?對,我們都希望能夠努力在121年能夠達到通車的階段。這個我們期待啦,期待這個安全的道路盡早來完工。我相信是讓民眾通行更加安全無虞,也是我們政府這個利益良善的一個出發點。那另外就是針對\n295046\t295066\t韓國瑜議員\n325026\t325206\t﹚陳俊宇\n343604\t344124\t三、10月18日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。\n362978\t363018\t好,謝謝部長\n387709\t407063\t接續要問的就是藍色公路在1975年的時候曾經我們有花蓮輪往返基隆到花蓮當時這條路線也是非常的夯也造成許多民眾可能有一種度假形式搭乘的心態\n408766\t429146\t他當時他是船運比較慢,他如果從花蓮開到基隆可能是7.5個小時,也就是晚上開船之後,民眾就上船就開始睡覺,然後到基隆可能就是早上就可以去上班或去旅遊。那當然現在的船隻的運輸的速度應該也都提升了。\n430686\t445105\t之前也有利納倫的加入,因為蘇花改完工之後,減少通車的時間,也降低相關通行的安全之後,利納倫就黯然收場了。\n449509\t476236\t現在就看起來假設我們現在蘇花改跟蘇花安工程還沒有完成之前剛剛陳儒部長您所說的我們也有在規劃看能不能再增加一條這個藍色公路我希望說可不可以讓它變成是常態性可是這個有兩個原因兩個這個部分需要我們這個中央部會要去協助的就是有沒有辦法再縮短\n476957\t487996\t航運的時間這個可能就是要選擇船隻他可能運輸的時間會比較快一點這是第一點減少運輸時間第二就是可能要降低這個票價的部分\n489417\t509448\t我希望說這個部分看能不能交通部去研議看看有機會的話把藍色公路再重新建置起來增加誘因讓民眾可以這個選擇搭乘海運的部分有沒有辦法報告委員我們這個航港局我有交代他們在9月18號有召開了藍色公路的這個可行性的這個\n510128\t511529\t這部分要請部長後續再增加這個機會因為蘇澳這個\n539787\t551802\t蘇澳港的新建旅運中心也順利在6月30起用了那未來我們也希望說這一條藍色公路建置之後不管是我們國內的跳島旅遊還是我們現在目前\n552352\t557835\t我相信這個藍色公路也可以相對的帶動宜蘭的相關的這個產業跟觀光的發展,所以請我們交通部這邊更加的積極的來辦理。另外就是我們這個宜蘭縣,宜蘭縣物產豐富\n578466\t602863\t這個自然的風景美不勝收這我相信在我們全台灣旅遊的這個廊帶上宜蘭縣應該是排名在前三名那我想我們有沒有機會可以來爭取宜蘭縣單獨申請這個國家級的風景區管理處全面來規劃推展宜蘭的這個觀光院長這個有沒有可能\n606014\t624862\t關光的事情當然全國各地好的地點還是要經過評估啦那現在就交通部夜館裡面已經有很多的風景區是國家交通部那是不是要增設一套的評鑑的標準跟選擇的標準我們請交通部來跟委員商量一下怎麼來進行\n627377\t651994\t這部分可能就請部長我們會後再討論這個好了我希望說能夠在宜蘭縣單獨來成立一個風景區管理處的話我相信這個量能才能夠支應宜蘭縣相關的觀光需求現階段我想請教就是東北角風景區管理處那因為他所這個轄管的範圍太大了\n655472\t664900\t他北起是我們新北的瑞芳南到宜蘭縣的南方澳的內埤海灣總面積是達到17,130公頃海岸線的長度是102.5公里所以他整個範圍這麼的寬資源有限\n678541\t704709\t我是覺得說他在挹注在宜蘭的部分可能沒辦法支應讓整個宜蘭縣的需求都能夠滿足所以才會要求說看能不能單獨來申請那現在我們地方就是形成一個這個現階段的要求就是希望我們能夠南沿到這個宜蘭縣跟花蓮的這個交界口和平溪口和平溪的這個溪口\n705185\t733240\t那部長這個部分有沒有可能?這個部分我們其實也在研議當中啦我們7月9號已經有委託專業的這個顧問公司在針對範圍擴大的部分來做檢討那我們陳經德政委也非常關心這個議題他也曾經到縣地去看那也有特別要求說我們這個南沿的部分要盡量來努力來協助協助宜蘭的這個觀光的發展那目前我們正在研究不過委員您剛剛所提到確實我們這個東北角的這個管理處的管轄範圍實在是非常的大\n733860\t734761\t東北角風景區管理處目前編制是58個員額\n763660\t784313\t我們行政院目前核定有15個員額有可能就是欲缺不補那會造成未來假設我們整個風景區管理處的轄管的範圍增大可是人員又不足的情況之下有可能在未來5年會從58個人剩下40個人那這個情況我們要怎麼因應\n785909\t810947\t我們盡量來爭取緣額,這是一方面,二方面針對工作效率上有沒有什麼更可以優化或精進的部分,但是人力的緣額我們會努力來爭取。那另外我們宜蘭縣,我剛剛講我們的天然資源非常的豐富,那我們的山、海、還有野溪、還有這個海洋的部分,我們宜蘭縣總共有19處的溫泉。\n813405\t840795\t還有一處是全世界唯二、亞洲唯一的人權所以在宜蘭縣我們有這麼豐富的水資源可是我們沒辦法去好好的行銷在我們有時候我不曉得我們院長跟部長您出國的當下如果我們今天要去日本會不會去看行程說我們今天晚上這個行程裡面有沒有其中一個晚上可以在日本的哪一個地方可以好好的泡湯來這個\n842529\t869698\t休息一下假設我們可以把這種概念加注在這個這個我們宜蘭縣推廣這個觀光的行銷上我要拜託我們交通部能不能協助來建構一個平台由我們中央的這個交通部這邊配合地方的縣政府還有這個還有原民會要加入因為有一些野溪的這個溫泉是在這個原住民這個部落裡面\n870424\t898138\t那再加上地方的這些鄉鎮市公所把這個平臺架構好之後包括我們剛剛講的這些溫泉還有一些優質的這些觀光旅宿業那還有我們宜蘭縣有17處的這個休閒農業區再加上一些優質的這些這個農特產品還有美食的這個餐飲業我想這個平臺架構完成之後能夠提供給遊客\n899933\t903783\t來到台灣甚至要去宜蘭深度旅遊的時候有一個比較明確的選擇\n905455\t910597\t我想這部分可不可以請交通部來協助一下?我們希望說未來宜蘭縣市好山好水好氣頭好不好?\n938237\t938518\t好,謝謝陳委員\n","txt":"好,謝謝大會主席、我們江副院長。那有請我們的卓院長。卓院長請備詢。議長教授。政委好。議長教授,辛苦了,辛苦了。這段時間為了我們綜藝省的部分,一定非常用心,多虧我們的行政團隊死在本坡。感謝你。\n當然這個整個我們國家的政策還有我們相關的建設也都是延續性的那也特別感謝我們左院長對於我們整個這個重責大任的承攬\n那我再次我也要謝謝我們在野黨幾位立委。 最近這段期間,對於藝人館的交通建設或是一些技展聲音, 能夠進入同樣的想法,在向我們行政院來要求和拜託。 我也希望說未來在我們党運中大量的行政團隊, 能夠做回來為藝人,我們來拚建設、聽官說。 拜託我們一定。\n首先我想要請教議長就是對於宜蘭鐵路工業的部分目前我們所進行的是在六月12日通過環境的影響評估順利在9月2日我們的經費部分遞到中央的增援已經有著落目前進入的是綜合部委會部分我想要請教議長就是說\n因為在年底的部分,我們有機會會報應來請出這個協定的結尾,我拜託議長就是針對這個部分,要盡量來幫我們倒三天。 兩年來到底有發生什麼事嗎?\n中規之後鐵道局還要送到交通部去審議,那如果其中順利的話,我想往後推的速度我們就可以掌握,那如果還有一些問題交通部應該積極去解決,交通部比較了解。我們盡量努力在兩年之內來動工。兩年內可以順利來動工?\n那兩年動工,那我們有沒有一個期程,大概什麼時候可以?\n我們原本的計畫是希望在合定之後的10年之內要完工合定之後就是由政院合定之後我們希望趕10年之內可以趕快完成給宜蘭的鄉親\n我還是拜託我們部長跟院長我們如果假設在這個過程裡面我們可以完善所有的相關配套那減少這個工程期間的這個交通黑暗期包括未來的這個高鐵延伸、移燃我都希望能夠縮短期程能夠讓整個工程可以盡早來完工這個部分可能要請我們教導我們會設法來提升效率在地方上需要的盡快完成\n另外我們宜蘭往南的一個交通路網最主要的應該就是蘇蛙公路了那在近期內看到這個風災還有地震的情況導致我們這個蘇蛙公路在崇德的那一段好像很明顯因為土石沖刷導致那個地方不管是道路或鐵路\n部長,我們目前進度到哪裡?\n報告委員,我們蘇花庵的部分在10月15日國發會有召開會議,那也予以支持。所以之後我們公路局就會接續來辦理設計還有用地取得。我們希望在121年能夠完工,達到通車的階段。這是蘇花庵的部分。那國道5號接蘇花改的部分也剛好在今年的10月16日也得到了國發會的支持。\n那我們也是一樣,一併跟蘇花安一樣,我們希望在民國121年能夠達到通車的階段。都是121年?對,我們都希望能夠努力在121年能夠達到通車的階段。這個我們期待啦,期待這個安全的道路盡早來完工。我相信是讓民眾通行更加安全無虞,也是我們政府這個利益良善的一個出發點。那另外就是針對\n韓國瑜議員\n﹚陳俊宇\n三、10月18日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。\n好,謝謝部長\n接續要問的就是藍色公路在1975年的時候曾經我們有花蓮輪往返基隆到花蓮當時這條路線也是非常的夯也造成許多民眾可能有一種度假形式搭乘的心態\n他當時他是船運比較慢,他如果從花蓮開到基隆可能是7.5個小時,也就是晚上開船之後,民眾就上船就開始睡覺,然後到基隆可能就是早上就可以去上班或去旅遊。那當然現在的船隻的運輸的速度應該也都提升了。\n之前也有利納倫的加入,因為蘇花改完工之後,減少通車的時間,也降低相關通行的安全之後,利納倫就黯然收場了。\n現在就看起來假設我們現在蘇花改跟蘇花安工程還沒有完成之前剛剛陳儒部長您所說的我們也有在規劃看能不能再增加一條這個藍色公路我希望說可不可以讓它變成是常態性可是這個有兩個原因兩個這個部分需要我們這個中央部會要去協助的就是有沒有辦法再縮短\n航運的時間這個可能就是要選擇船隻他可能運輸的時間會比較快一點這是第一點減少運輸時間第二就是可能要降低這個票價的部分\n我希望說這個部分看能不能交通部去研議看看有機會的話把藍色公路再重新建置起來增加誘因讓民眾可以這個選擇搭乘海運的部分有沒有辦法報告委員我們這個航港局我有交代他們在9月18號有召開了藍色公路的這個可行性的這個\n這部分要請部長後續再增加這個機會因為蘇澳這個\n蘇澳港的新建旅運中心也順利在6月30起用了那未來我們也希望說這一條藍色公路建置之後不管是我們國內的跳島旅遊還是我們現在目前\n我相信這個藍色公路也可以相對的帶動宜蘭的相關的這個產業跟觀光的發展,所以請我們交通部這邊更加的積極的來辦理。另外就是我們這個宜蘭縣,宜蘭縣物產豐富\n這個自然的風景美不勝收這我相信在我們全台灣旅遊的這個廊帶上宜蘭縣應該是排名在前三名那我想我們有沒有機會可以來爭取宜蘭縣單獨申請這個國家級的風景區管理處全面來規劃推展宜蘭的這個觀光院長這個有沒有可能\n關光的事情當然全國各地好的地點還是要經過評估啦那現在就交通部夜館裡面已經有很多的風景區是國家交通部那是不是要增設一套的評鑑的標準跟選擇的標準我們請交通部來跟委員商量一下怎麼來進行\n這部分可能就請部長我們會後再討論這個好了我希望說能夠在宜蘭縣單獨來成立一個風景區管理處的話我相信這個量能才能夠支應宜蘭縣相關的觀光需求現階段我想請教就是東北角風景區管理處那因為他所這個轄管的範圍太大了\n他北起是我們新北的瑞芳南到宜蘭縣的南方澳的內埤海灣總面積是達到17,130公頃海岸線的長度是102.5公里所以他整個範圍這麼的寬資源有限\n我是覺得說他在挹注在宜蘭的部分可能沒辦法支應讓整個宜蘭縣的需求都能夠滿足所以才會要求說看能不能單獨來申請那現在我們地方就是形成一個這個現階段的要求就是希望我們能夠南沿到這個宜蘭縣跟花蓮的這個交界口和平溪口和平溪的這個溪口\n那部長這個部分有沒有可能?這個部分我們其實也在研議當中啦我們7月9號已經有委託專業的這個顧問公司在針對範圍擴大的部分來做檢討那我們陳經德政委也非常關心這個議題他也曾經到縣地去看那也有特別要求說我們這個南沿的部分要盡量來努力來協助協助宜蘭的這個觀光的發展那目前我們正在研究不過委員您剛剛所提到確實我們這個東北角的這個管理處的管轄範圍實在是非常的大\n東北角風景區管理處目前編制是58個員額\n我們行政院目前核定有15個員額有可能就是欲缺不補那會造成未來假設我們整個風景區管理處的轄管的範圍增大可是人員又不足的情況之下有可能在未來5年會從58個人剩下40個人那這個情況我們要怎麼因應\n我們盡量來爭取緣額,這是一方面,二方面針對工作效率上有沒有什麼更可以優化或精進的部分,但是人力的緣額我們會努力來爭取。那另外我們宜蘭縣,我剛剛講我們的天然資源非常的豐富,那我們的山、海、還有野溪、還有這個海洋的部分,我們宜蘭縣總共有19處的溫泉。\n還有一處是全世界唯二、亞洲唯一的人權所以在宜蘭縣我們有這麼豐富的水資源可是我們沒辦法去好好的行銷在我們有時候我不曉得我們院長跟部長您出國的當下如果我們今天要去日本會不會去看行程說我們今天晚上這個行程裡面有沒有其中一個晚上可以在日本的哪一個地方可以好好的泡湯來這個\n休息一下假設我們可以把這種概念加注在這個這個我們宜蘭縣推廣這個觀光的行銷上我要拜託我們交通部能不能協助來建構一個平台由我們中央的這個交通部這邊配合地方的縣政府還有這個還有原民會要加入因為有一些野溪的這個溫泉是在這個原住民這個部落裡面\n那再加上地方的這些鄉鎮市公所把這個平臺架構好之後包括我們剛剛講的這些溫泉還有一些優質的這些觀光旅宿業那還有我們宜蘭縣有17處的這個休閒農業區再加上一些優質的這些這個農特產品還有美食的這個餐飲業我想這個平臺架構完成之後能夠提供給遊客\n來到台灣甚至要去宜蘭深度旅遊的時候有一個比較明確的選擇\n我想這部分可不可以請交通部來協助一下?我們希望說未來宜蘭縣市好山好水好氣頭好不好?\n好,謝謝陳委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:14.090 --> 00:39.082\n好,謝謝大會主席、我們江副院長。那有請我們的卓院長。卓院長請備詢。議長教授。政委好。議長教授,辛苦了,辛苦了。這段時間為了我們綜藝省的部分,一定非常用心,多虧我們的行政團隊死在本坡。感謝你。\n\n00:42.677 --> 00:54.990\n當然這個整個我們國家的政策還有我們相關的建設也都是延續性的那也特別感謝我們左院長對於我們整個這個重責大任的承攬\n\n00:56.021 --> 01:20.271\n那我再次我也要謝謝我們在野黨幾位立委。最近這段期間,對於藝人館的交通建設或是一些技展聲音,能夠進入同樣的想法,在向我們行政院來要求和拜託。我也希望說未來在我們党運中大量的行政團隊,能夠做回來為藝人,我們來拚建設、聽官說。拜託我們一定。\n\n01:24.226 --> 01:49.817\n首先我想要請教議長就是對於宜蘭鐵路工業的部分目前我們所進行的是在六月12日通過環境的影響評估順利在9月2日我們的經費部分遞到中央的增援已經有著落目前進入的是綜合部委會部分我想要請教議長就是說\n\n01:52.014 --> 01:59.421\n因為在年底的部分,我們有機會會報應來請出這個協定的結尾,我拜託議長就是針對這個部分,要盡量來幫我們倒三天。兩年來到底有發生什麼事嗎?\n\n02:07.760 --> 02:24.868\n中規之後鐵道局還要送到交通部去審議,那如果其中順利的話,我想往後推的速度我們就可以掌握,那如果還有一些問題交通部應該積極去解決,交通部比較了解。我們盡量努力在兩年之內來動工。兩年內可以順利來動工?\n\n02:27.449 --> 02:28.770\n那兩年動工,那我們有沒有一個期程,大概什麼時候可以?\n\n02:51.390 --> 03:00.766\n我們原本的計畫是希望在合定之後的10年之內要完工合定之後就是由政院合定之後我們希望趕10年之內可以趕快完成給宜蘭的鄉親\n\n03:02.495 --> 03:26.911\n我還是拜託我們部長跟院長我們如果假設在這個過程裡面我們可以完善所有的相關配套那減少這個工程期間的這個交通黑暗期包括未來的這個高鐵延伸、移燃我都希望能夠縮短期程能夠讓整個工程可以盡早來完工這個部分可能要請我們教導我們會設法來提升效率在地方上需要的盡快完成\n\n03:27.950 --> 03:47.937\n另外我們宜蘭往南的一個交通路網最主要的應該就是蘇蛙公路了那在近期內看到這個風災還有地震的情況導致我們這個蘇蛙公路在崇德的那一段好像很明顯因為土石沖刷導致那個地方不管是道路或鐵路\n\n03:48.387 --> 03:48.827\n部長,我們目前進度到哪裡?\n\n04:04.200 --> 04:29.714\n報告委員,我們蘇花庵的部分在10月15日國發會有召開會議,那也予以支持。所以之後我們公路局就會接續來辦理設計還有用地取得。我們希望在121年能夠完工,達到通車的階段。這是蘇花庵的部分。那國道5號接蘇花改的部分也剛好在今年的10月16日也得到了國發會的支持。\n\n04:30.114 --> 04:54.070\n那我們也是一樣,一併跟蘇花安一樣,我們希望在民國121年能夠達到通車的階段。都是121年?對,我們都希望能夠努力在121年能夠達到通車的階段。這個我們期待啦,期待這個安全的道路盡早來完工。我相信是讓民眾通行更加安全無虞,也是我們政府這個利益良善的一個出發點。那另外就是針對\n\n04:55.046 --> 04:55.066\n韓國瑜議員\n\n05:25.026 --> 05:25.206\n﹚陳俊宇\n\n05:43.604 --> 05:44.124\n三、10月18日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。\n\n06:02.978 --> 06:03.018\n好,謝謝部長\n\n06:27.709 --> 06:47.063\n接續要問的就是藍色公路在1975年的時候曾經我們有花蓮輪往返基隆到花蓮當時這條路線也是非常的夯也造成許多民眾可能有一種度假形式搭乘的心態\n\n06:48.766 --> 07:09.146\n他當時他是船運比較慢,他如果從花蓮開到基隆可能是7.5個小時,也就是晚上開船之後,民眾就上船就開始睡覺,然後到基隆可能就是早上就可以去上班或去旅遊。那當然現在的船隻的運輸的速度應該也都提升了。\n\n07:10.686 --> 07:25.105\n之前也有利納倫的加入,因為蘇花改完工之後,減少通車的時間,也降低相關通行的安全之後,利納倫就黯然收場了。\n\n07:29.509 --> 07:56.236\n現在就看起來假設我們現在蘇花改跟蘇花安工程還沒有完成之前剛剛陳儒部長您所說的我們也有在規劃看能不能再增加一條這個藍色公路我希望說可不可以讓它變成是常態性可是這個有兩個原因兩個這個部分需要我們這個中央部會要去協助的就是有沒有辦法再縮短\n\n07:56.957 --> 08:07.996\n航運的時間這個可能就是要選擇船隻他可能運輸的時間會比較快一點這是第一點減少運輸時間第二就是可能要降低這個票價的部分\n\n08:09.417 --> 08:29.448\n我希望說這個部分看能不能交通部去研議看看有機會的話把藍色公路再重新建置起來增加誘因讓民眾可以這個選擇搭乘海運的部分有沒有辦法報告委員我們這個航港局我有交代他們在9月18號有召開了藍色公路的這個可行性的這個\n\n08:30.128 --> 08:31.529\n這部分要請部長後續再增加這個機會因為蘇澳這個\n\n08:59.787 --> 09:11.802\n蘇澳港的新建旅運中心也順利在6月30起用了那未來我們也希望說這一條藍色公路建置之後不管是我們國內的跳島旅遊還是我們現在目前\n\n09:12.352 --> 09:17.835\n我相信這個藍色公路也可以相對的帶動宜蘭的相關的這個產業跟觀光的發展,所以請我們交通部這邊更加的積極的來辦理。另外就是我們這個宜蘭縣,宜蘭縣物產豐富\n\n09:38.466 --> 10:02.863\n這個自然的風景美不勝收這我相信在我們全台灣旅遊的這個廊帶上宜蘭縣應該是排名在前三名那我想我們有沒有機會可以來爭取宜蘭縣單獨申請這個國家級的風景區管理處全面來規劃推展宜蘭的這個觀光院長這個有沒有可能\n\n10:06.014 --> 10:24.862\n關光的事情當然全國各地好的地點還是要經過評估啦那現在就交通部夜館裡面已經有很多的風景區是國家交通部那是不是要增設一套的評鑑的標準跟選擇的標準我們請交通部來跟委員商量一下怎麼來進行\n\n10:27.377 --> 10:51.994\n這部分可能就請部長我們會後再討論這個好了我希望說能夠在宜蘭縣單獨來成立一個風景區管理處的話我相信這個量能才能夠支應宜蘭縣相關的觀光需求現階段我想請教就是東北角風景區管理處那因為他所這個轄管的範圍太大了\n\n10:55.472 --> 11:04.900\n他北起是我們新北的瑞芳南到宜蘭縣的南方澳的內埤海灣總面積是達到17,130公頃海岸線的長度是102.5公里所以他整個範圍這麼的寬資源有限\n\n11:18.541 --> 11:44.709\n我是覺得說他在挹注在宜蘭的部分可能沒辦法支應讓整個宜蘭縣的需求都能夠滿足所以才會要求說看能不能單獨來申請那現在我們地方就是形成一個這個現階段的要求就是希望我們能夠南沿到這個宜蘭縣跟花蓮的這個交界口和平溪口和平溪的這個溪口\n\n11:45.185 --> 12:13.240\n那部長這個部分有沒有可能?這個部分我們其實也在研議當中啦我們7月9號已經有委託專業的這個顧問公司在針對範圍擴大的部分來做檢討那我們陳經德政委也非常關心這個議題他也曾經到縣地去看那也有特別要求說我們這個南沿的部分要盡量來努力來協助協助宜蘭的這個觀光的發展那目前我們正在研究不過委員您剛剛所提到確實我們這個東北角的這個管理處的管轄範圍實在是非常的大\n\n12:13.860 --> 12:14.761\n東北角風景區管理處目前編制是58個員額\n\n12:43.660 --> 13:04.313\n我們行政院目前核定有15個員額有可能就是欲缺不補那會造成未來假設我們整個風景區管理處的轄管的範圍增大可是人員又不足的情況之下有可能在未來5年會從58個人剩下40個人那這個情況我們要怎麼因應\n\n13:05.909 --> 13:30.947\n我們盡量來爭取緣額,這是一方面,二方面針對工作效率上有沒有什麼更可以優化或精進的部分,但是人力的緣額我們會努力來爭取。那另外我們宜蘭縣,我剛剛講我們的天然資源非常的豐富,那我們的山、海、還有野溪、還有這個海洋的部分,我們宜蘭縣總共有19處的溫泉。\n\n13:33.405 --> 14:00.795\n還有一處是全世界唯二、亞洲唯一的人權所以在宜蘭縣我們有這麼豐富的水資源可是我們沒辦法去好好的行銷在我們有時候我不曉得我們院長跟部長您出國的當下如果我們今天要去日本會不會去看行程說我們今天晚上這個行程裡面有沒有其中一個晚上可以在日本的哪一個地方可以好好的泡湯來這個\n\n14:02.529 --> 14:29.698\n休息一下假設我們可以把這種概念加注在這個這個我們宜蘭縣推廣這個觀光的行銷上我要拜託我們交通部能不能協助來建構一個平台由我們中央的這個交通部這邊配合地方的縣政府還有這個還有原民會要加入因為有一些野溪的這個溫泉是在這個原住民這個部落裡面\n\n14:30.424 --> 14:58.138\n那再加上地方的這些鄉鎮市公所把這個平臺架構好之後包括我們剛剛講的這些溫泉還有一些優質的這些觀光旅宿業那還有我們宜蘭縣有17處的這個休閒農業區再加上一些優質的這些這個農特產品還有美食的這個餐飲業我想這個平臺架構完成之後能夠提供給遊客\n\n14:59.933 --> 15:03.783\n來到台灣甚至要去宜蘭深度旅遊的時候有一個比較明確的選擇\n\n15:05.455 --> 15:10.597\n我想這部分可不可以請交通部來協助一下?我們希望說未來宜蘭縣市好山好水好氣頭好不好?\n\n15:38.237 --> 15:38.518\n好,謝謝陳委員\n\n","segments":[{"start":14.09,"end":39.082,"text":"好,謝謝大會主席、我們江副院長。那有請我們的卓院長。卓院長請備詢。議長教授。政委好。議長教授,辛苦了,辛苦了。這段時間為了我們綜藝省的部分,一定非常用心,多虧我們的行政團隊死在本坡。感謝你。"},{"start":42.677,"end":54.99,"text":"當然這個整個我們國家的政策還有我們相關的建設也都是延續性的那也特別感謝我們左院長對於我們整個這個重責大任的承攬"},{"start":56.021,"end":80.271,"text":"那我再次我也要謝謝我們在野黨幾位立委。 最近這段期間,對於藝人館的交通建設或是一些技展聲音, 能夠進入同樣的想法,在向我們行政院來要求和拜託。 我也希望說未來在我們党運中大量的行政團隊, 能夠做回來為藝人,我們來拚建設、聽官說。 拜託我們一定。"},{"start":84.226,"end":109.817,"text":"首先我想要請教議長就是對於宜蘭鐵路工業的部分目前我們所進行的是在六月12日通過環境的影響評估順利在9月2日我們的經費部分遞到中央的增援已經有著落目前進入的是綜合部委會部分我想要請教議長就是說"},{"start":112.014,"end":119.421,"text":"因為在年底的部分,我們有機會會報應來請出這個協定的結尾,我拜託議長就是針對這個部分,要盡量來幫我們倒三天。 兩年來到底有發生什麼事嗎?"},{"start":127.76,"end":144.868,"text":"中規之後鐵道局還要送到交通部去審議,那如果其中順利的話,我想往後推的速度我們就可以掌握,那如果還有一些問題交通部應該積極去解決,交通部比較了解。我們盡量努力在兩年之內來動工。兩年內可以順利來動工?"},{"start":147.449,"end":148.77,"text":"那兩年動工,那我們有沒有一個期程,大概什麼時候可以?"},{"start":171.39,"end":180.766,"text":"我們原本的計畫是希望在合定之後的10年之內要完工合定之後就是由政院合定之後我們希望趕10年之內可以趕快完成給宜蘭的鄉親"},{"start":182.495,"end":206.911,"text":"我還是拜託我們部長跟院長我們如果假設在這個過程裡面我們可以完善所有的相關配套那減少這個工程期間的這個交通黑暗期包括未來的這個高鐵延伸、移燃我都希望能夠縮短期程能夠讓整個工程可以盡早來完工這個部分可能要請我們教導我們會設法來提升效率在地方上需要的盡快完成"},{"start":207.95,"end":227.937,"text":"另外我們宜蘭往南的一個交通路網最主要的應該就是蘇蛙公路了那在近期內看到這個風災還有地震的情況導致我們這個蘇蛙公路在崇德的那一段好像很明顯因為土石沖刷導致那個地方不管是道路或鐵路"},{"start":228.387,"end":228.827,"text":"部長,我們目前進度到哪裡?"},{"start":244.2,"end":269.714,"text":"報告委員,我們蘇花庵的部分在10月15日國發會有召開會議,那也予以支持。所以之後我們公路局就會接續來辦理設計還有用地取得。我們希望在121年能夠完工,達到通車的階段。這是蘇花庵的部分。那國道5號接蘇花改的部分也剛好在今年的10月16日也得到了國發會的支持。"},{"start":270.114,"end":294.07,"text":"那我們也是一樣,一併跟蘇花安一樣,我們希望在民國121年能夠達到通車的階段。都是121年?對,我們都希望能夠努力在121年能夠達到通車的階段。這個我們期待啦,期待這個安全的道路盡早來完工。我相信是讓民眾通行更加安全無虞,也是我們政府這個利益良善的一個出發點。那另外就是針對"},{"start":295.046,"end":295.066,"text":"韓國瑜議員"},{"start":325.026,"end":325.206,"text":"﹚陳俊宇"},{"start":343.604,"end":344.124,"text":"三、10月18日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。"},{"start":362.978,"end":363.018,"text":"好,謝謝部長"},{"start":387.709,"end":407.063,"text":"接續要問的就是藍色公路在1975年的時候曾經我們有花蓮輪往返基隆到花蓮當時這條路線也是非常的夯也造成許多民眾可能有一種度假形式搭乘的心態"},{"start":408.766,"end":429.146,"text":"他當時他是船運比較慢,他如果從花蓮開到基隆可能是7.5個小時,也就是晚上開船之後,民眾就上船就開始睡覺,然後到基隆可能就是早上就可以去上班或去旅遊。那當然現在的船隻的運輸的速度應該也都提升了。"},{"start":430.686,"end":445.105,"text":"之前也有利納倫的加入,因為蘇花改完工之後,減少通車的時間,也降低相關通行的安全之後,利納倫就黯然收場了。"},{"start":449.509,"end":476.236,"text":"現在就看起來假設我們現在蘇花改跟蘇花安工程還沒有完成之前剛剛陳儒部長您所說的我們也有在規劃看能不能再增加一條這個藍色公路我希望說可不可以讓它變成是常態性可是這個有兩個原因兩個這個部分需要我們這個中央部會要去協助的就是有沒有辦法再縮短"},{"start":476.957,"end":487.996,"text":"航運的時間這個可能就是要選擇船隻他可能運輸的時間會比較快一點這是第一點減少運輸時間第二就是可能要降低這個票價的部分"},{"start":489.417,"end":509.448,"text":"我希望說這個部分看能不能交通部去研議看看有機會的話把藍色公路再重新建置起來增加誘因讓民眾可以這個選擇搭乘海運的部分有沒有辦法報告委員我們這個航港局我有交代他們在9月18號有召開了藍色公路的這個可行性的這個"},{"start":510.128,"end":511.529,"text":"這部分要請部長後續再增加這個機會因為蘇澳這個"},{"start":539.787,"end":551.802,"text":"蘇澳港的新建旅運中心也順利在6月30起用了那未來我們也希望說這一條藍色公路建置之後不管是我們國內的跳島旅遊還是我們現在目前"},{"start":552.352,"end":557.835,"text":"我相信這個藍色公路也可以相對的帶動宜蘭的相關的這個產業跟觀光的發展,所以請我們交通部這邊更加的積極的來辦理。另外就是我們這個宜蘭縣,宜蘭縣物產豐富"},{"start":578.466,"end":602.863,"text":"這個自然的風景美不勝收這我相信在我們全台灣旅遊的這個廊帶上宜蘭縣應該是排名在前三名那我想我們有沒有機會可以來爭取宜蘭縣單獨申請這個國家級的風景區管理處全面來規劃推展宜蘭的這個觀光院長這個有沒有可能"},{"start":606.014,"end":624.862,"text":"關光的事情當然全國各地好的地點還是要經過評估啦那現在就交通部夜館裡面已經有很多的風景區是國家交通部那是不是要增設一套的評鑑的標準跟選擇的標準我們請交通部來跟委員商量一下怎麼來進行"},{"start":627.377,"end":651.994,"text":"這部分可能就請部長我們會後再討論這個好了我希望說能夠在宜蘭縣單獨來成立一個風景區管理處的話我相信這個量能才能夠支應宜蘭縣相關的觀光需求現階段我想請教就是東北角風景區管理處那因為他所這個轄管的範圍太大了"},{"start":655.472,"end":664.9,"text":"他北起是我們新北的瑞芳南到宜蘭縣的南方澳的內埤海灣總面積是達到17,130公頃海岸線的長度是102.5公里所以他整個範圍這麼的寬資源有限"},{"start":678.541,"end":704.709,"text":"我是覺得說他在挹注在宜蘭的部分可能沒辦法支應讓整個宜蘭縣的需求都能夠滿足所以才會要求說看能不能單獨來申請那現在我們地方就是形成一個這個現階段的要求就是希望我們能夠南沿到這個宜蘭縣跟花蓮的這個交界口和平溪口和平溪的這個溪口"},{"start":705.185,"end":733.24,"text":"那部長這個部分有沒有可能?這個部分我們其實也在研議當中啦我們7月9號已經有委託專業的這個顧問公司在針對範圍擴大的部分來做檢討那我們陳經德政委也非常關心這個議題他也曾經到縣地去看那也有特別要求說我們這個南沿的部分要盡量來努力來協助協助宜蘭的這個觀光的發展那目前我們正在研究不過委員您剛剛所提到確實我們這個東北角的這個管理處的管轄範圍實在是非常的大"},{"start":733.86,"end":734.761,"text":"東北角風景區管理處目前編制是58個員額"},{"start":763.66,"end":784.313,"text":"我們行政院目前核定有15個員額有可能就是欲缺不補那會造成未來假設我們整個風景區管理處的轄管的範圍增大可是人員又不足的情況之下有可能在未來5年會從58個人剩下40個人那這個情況我們要怎麼因應"},{"start":785.909,"end":810.947,"text":"我們盡量來爭取緣額,這是一方面,二方面針對工作效率上有沒有什麼更可以優化或精進的部分,但是人力的緣額我們會努力來爭取。那另外我們宜蘭縣,我剛剛講我們的天然資源非常的豐富,那我們的山、海、還有野溪、還有這個海洋的部分,我們宜蘭縣總共有19處的溫泉。"},{"start":813.405,"end":840.795,"text":"還有一處是全世界唯二、亞洲唯一的人權所以在宜蘭縣我們有這麼豐富的水資源可是我們沒辦法去好好的行銷在我們有時候我不曉得我們院長跟部長您出國的當下如果我們今天要去日本會不會去看行程說我們今天晚上這個行程裡面有沒有其中一個晚上可以在日本的哪一個地方可以好好的泡湯來這個"},{"start":842.529,"end":869.698,"text":"休息一下假設我們可以把這種概念加注在這個這個我們宜蘭縣推廣這個觀光的行銷上我要拜託我們交通部能不能協助來建構一個平台由我們中央的這個交通部這邊配合地方的縣政府還有這個還有原民會要加入因為有一些野溪的這個溫泉是在這個原住民這個部落裡面"},{"start":870.424,"end":898.138,"text":"那再加上地方的這些鄉鎮市公所把這個平臺架構好之後包括我們剛剛講的這些溫泉還有一些優質的這些觀光旅宿業那還有我們宜蘭縣有17處的這個休閒農業區再加上一些優質的這些這個農特產品還有美食的這個餐飲業我想這個平臺架構完成之後能夠提供給遊客"},{"start":899.933,"end":903.783,"text":"來到台灣甚至要去宜蘭深度旅遊的時候有一個比較明確的選擇"},{"start":905.455,"end":910.597,"text":"我想這部分可不可以請交通部來協助一下?我們希望說未來宜蘭縣市好山好水好氣頭好不好?"},{"start":938.237,"end":938.518,"text":"好,謝謝陳委員"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":152,"blocks":[["陳委員俊宇：（9時34分）好，謝謝大會主席江副院長，有請卓院長。"],["主席：卓院長請備詢。"],["陳委員俊宇：院長早安。"],["卓院長榮泰：陳委員好。"],["陳委員俊宇：院長早，辛苦了！"],["卓院長榮泰：不會。"],["陳委員俊宇：這段時間為了總預算，院長非常用心帶領著行政團隊四處在奔波，感謝你。當然整個國家的政策及相關建設也都是延續性的，特別感謝卓院長對於重責大任的承攬，在此我也要謝謝在野黨幾位立委最近這段期間對於宜蘭縣的交通建設或是一些基層聲音，可以跟本席有一樣的想法，向行政院要求及拜託，我也希望未來卓院長所帶領的行政團隊可以一起來為宜蘭拚建設、挺觀光，拜託院長。","首先我想請教院長有關宜蘭鐵路高架的部分，目前所進行的是在6月12日通過環境影響評估，同時經費的部分也順利在9月26日得到中央的增援，現在已經有著落。目前進入的是綜合規劃的部分，我想要請教院長，年底如果有機會我們就會報院爭取核定的計畫，我要拜託院長針對這個部分盡力來幫忙，請問兩年內到底有沒有辦法動工？"],["卓院長榮泰：綜規之後，鐵道局還要送到交通部去審議，如果期中順利的話，我想往後推的速度我們就可以掌握；如果還有一些問題，交通部應該積極去解決，交通部比較了解。"],["陳部長世凱：我們儘量努力在兩年之內動工。"],["陳委員俊宇：兩年內可以順利來動工？"],["陳部長世凱：委員一直在爭取，也一直在推動這件事，當然我們速度會加快，所以在部裡面審議的程序我們會加快，之後就會送給院，院核定之後，就會進入開始設計規劃的部分。"],["陳委員俊宇：如果兩年內動工，那我們有沒有一個期程大概什麼時候可以掌握到它可以有一個完工的機會？"],["陳部長世凱：我們原本的計畫是希望在核定之後的十年之內要完工，就是由政院核定之後，我們希望在十年之內可以趕快完成給宜蘭的鄉親。"],["陳委員俊宇：我還是拜託部長跟院長，假設在這個過程裡面我們可以完善所有相關配套，減少工程期間的交通黑暗期，包括未來的高鐵延伸宜蘭，我都希望能夠縮短期程，能夠讓整個工程儘早完工，這個部分可能要請交通部……"],["卓院長榮泰：我們會設法提升效率，就是地方上需要的儘快完成。"],["陳委員俊宇：另外，宜蘭往南的交通路網最主要的應該就是蘇花公路了，近期內看到這個風災還有地震的情況，導致蘇花公路在崇德的那一段好像很明顯毀損，因為土石沖刷導致那個地方，不管是道路或鐵路經常都產生中斷的情況。對於目前進行中的蘇花安以及蘇花改延伸到國道5號，我想請教部長這個部分目前進度到哪裡了？"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，針對蘇花安的部分，10月15號國發會有召開會議，也予以支持，所以之後公路局就會接續辦理設計還有用地取得，我們希望在121年能夠完工，達到通車的階段，這是蘇花安的部分。至於國道5號接蘇花改的部分，剛好在今年10月16號也得到國發會的支持，這部分也是一併跟蘇花安一樣，我們希望在民國121年能夠達到通車的階段。"],["陳委員俊宇：都是121年？"],["陳部長世凱：對，我們都希望能夠努力在121年達到通車階段。"],["陳委員俊宇：我們期待這條安全的道路能夠儘早完工，我相信這會讓民眾通行更加安全無虞，也是我們政府立意良善的一個出發點。","另外就是針對我們所建立的三小時SOP疏運計畫，假設在這個路段又產生道路或是鐵路中斷的時候，目前我們安排的情況是怎樣？"],["陳部長世凱：跟委員報告，針對這個部分，我們有分海、陸、空三個部分。陸運的部分，如果是蘇花中斷，那我們就是往南，所以南迴鐵路我們會加開班次，另外再合併到高鐵，高鐵也會加開班次，銜接南迴接到西部的那一段，所以高鐵跟臺鐵會合併來執行這個疏運的部分。另外，針對空運的部分，只要發生路廊中斷狀況的時候，我們的空運會馬上來爭取班機，像上一次9月8日有一次中斷的時候，那個時候天候的狀況可以，我們馬上就增開班機來疏運比較急的旅客，比較不急的大概就是走鐵路、走南迴。","至於海運的部分，其實到目前為止，我們希望能夠快速地啟動，但因為我們在那邊沒有固定的船班，所以都要跟馬祖調新臺馬輪，而調新臺馬輪過來大概也要一天到兩天的時間，這個時間會稍微晚一點。所以目前我們也有在討論要不要建立一個旅遊型態，平日就有的藍色公路的建置，如果有的話，未來在海運的部分可以馬上接上來，疏運的速度會再更快一些。以上跟委員報告。"],["陳委員俊宇：好，謝謝部長。我接續要問的就是藍色公路，在1975年的時候，我們曾經有花蓮輪往返基隆到花蓮，當時這條路線也是非常地夯，造成許多民眾可能有一種渡假形式的搭乘心態，當時它是船運，比較慢，如果從花蓮開到基隆可能是7.5個小時，也就是晚上開船之後，民眾上船就開始睡覺，然後到基隆可能就是早上，就可以去上班或去旅遊。當然，現在船隻運輸的速度應該也都提升了，之前也有麗娜輪的加入，因為蘇花改完工通車之後，減少了通車的時間，也降低了相關通行安全的疑慮之後，麗娜輪就黯然地收場了。","現在看起來，假設現在蘇花改跟蘇花安工程還沒有完成之前，剛剛誠如部長您所說的，我們也有在規劃，看能不能再增加一條藍色公路。我希望可不可以讓它變成是常態性，可是這個有兩個部分需要中央部會要去協助的，就是有沒有辦法再縮短航運的時間，這個可能要選擇船隻，這樣運輸的時間會比較快一點，這是第一點，就是減少運輸時間，第二就是可能要降低票價的部分。所以我希望這個部分交通部能不能去研議看看，有機會的話，把藍色公路再重新建置起來，增加誘因，讓民眾可以選擇搭乘海運的部分，有沒有辦法？"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，我有交代我們航港局在9月18日召開了藍色公路的可行性研討會議，這個部分我們正在討論當中，我也希望能夠建置起來，如果到時候蘇花公路很不幸地又發生中斷狀態的時候，其實海運的運量也滿大的，我們希望能夠馬上補齊這個輸運的部分。所以這個部分我們正在努力，9月18日已經有召開過會議，後續我們會再持續來推動。"],["陳委員俊宇：好，這個部分要請部長後續再增加這個機會。"],["陳部長世凱：是。"],["陳委員俊宇：蘇澳港的新建旅運中心也順利在6月30日啟用了，未來我們也希望這一條藍色公路建置之後，不管是我們國內的跳島旅遊，還是現在目前地方也在推行看能不能跟日本的石垣島、甚至與那國島做對開，我相信這個藍色公路也可以相對地帶動宜蘭相關的產業跟觀光發展，所以請交通部更加積極來辦理。"],["陳部長世凱：好，我們來努力。"],["陳委員俊宇：另外，我們宜蘭縣物產豐富，自然的風景美不勝收，我相信在我們全臺灣旅遊的廊帶上，宜蘭縣應該是排名在前三名，我們有沒有機會可以來爭取宜蘭縣單獨申請設立國家級的風景區管理處，全面來規劃推展宜蘭的觀光，院長，這個有沒有可能？"],["卓院長榮泰：觀光的事情，當然全國各地好的地點還是要經過評估，現在就交通部業管裡面已經有很多的國家風景區，風景區是歸交通部，是不是要增設，要一套的評鑑標準跟選擇的標準，我們請交通部來跟委員商量一下怎麼來進行。"],["陳委員俊宇：部長，這個我們會後再討論好了。"],["陳部長世凱：我可以跟委員再詳細來瞭解。"],["陳委員俊宇：我希望能夠在宜蘭縣單獨成立一個風景區管理處，這樣的話，我相信這個量能才能夠支應宜蘭縣相關的觀光需求，現階段我想請教東北角風景區管理處，因為它所轄管的範圍太寬、太大了，北起是新北瑞芳，南至宜蘭縣的南方澳內埤海灣，總面積達到1萬7,130公頃，海岸線長度是102.5公里，所以它的整個範圍這麼寬，資源有限，我覺得挹注在宜蘭的部分可能沒辦法支應，讓整個宜蘭縣的需求都能夠滿足，所以才會要求能不能單獨來申請。現在我們地方形成一個現階段的要求，就是希望能夠南延到宜蘭縣和花蓮的交界口和平溪口，部長，這個部分有沒有可能？"],["陳部長世凱：這個部分我們其實也在研議當中，我們7月9日已經有委託專業的顧問公司，針對範圍擴大的部分來做檢討，我們陳金德政委也非常關心這個議題，他也曾經到現地去看，也有特別要求南延的部分要儘量努力，來協助宜蘭的觀光發展，目前我們正在研究。不過委員剛剛所提到的，確實我們的東北角管理處管轄範圍實在是非常的大，一方面是資源的問題，二方面其實處裡面的人也在跟我反映人力不太夠，這個部分我們正在努力，所以我們雙方面來努力，一方面我們正在規劃擴大範圍，二方面針對人力的部分和資源的部分，我們也設法來補強，以上跟委員報告。"],["陳委員俊宇：這部分也請部長幫忙。另外，因為東北角風景區管理處目前編制是58個員額，行政院目前核定有15個員額有可能遇缺不補，這會造成未來假設整個風景區管理處的轄管範圍增大，可是人員又不足的情況之下，有可能在未來5年會從58個人剩下40個人，這個情況我們要怎麼因應？"],["陳部長世凱：我們儘量來爭取員額，這是一方面，二方面針對工作效率上有沒有什麼更可以優化或精進的部分，但是人力的員額，我們會努力來爭取。"],["陳委員俊宇：另外，我剛剛講到宜蘭縣的天然資源非常豐富，包括我們的山、海、野溪，還有海洋的部分，宜蘭縣總共有19處溫泉，還有1處是全世界唯二、亞洲唯一的冷泉，所以在宜蘭縣有這麼豐富的水資源，可是我們卻沒辦法去好好的行銷。我不曉得院長和部長在出國的當下，如果你們是要去日本，你們會不會去看行程，看看晚上的行程裡面有沒有其中一個晚上可以在日本的哪一個地方好好泡湯休息一下？假設我們可以把這種概念加註在宜蘭縣推廣觀光的行銷上，我要拜託交通部能不能協助建構一個平臺，由中央交通部這邊配合地方縣政府，還有原民會也要加入，因為有一些野溪溫泉是在原住民部落裡面，再加上地方的這些鄉鎮市公所。把這個平臺架構好之後，包括我們剛剛講的這些溫泉，還有一些優質的觀光旅宿業，還有宜蘭縣有17處休閒農業區，再加上一些優質的農特產品，還有美食餐飲業，我想這個平臺架構完成之後，能夠提供給遊客來到臺灣，甚至要去宜蘭深度旅遊的時候有一個比較明確的選擇，這個部分可不可以請交通部協助一下？"],["陳部長世凱：好，沒有問題，我們請觀光署跟地方政府來協調和協商，包含委員剛剛所交代的原民會的部分，我們找他們一起來討論，還有地方的鄉鎮市公所等等，大家來討論看看這個平臺怎麼建構，只要對觀光有利的，我相信觀光署都會努力來推動。"],["陳委員俊宇：我們希望未來宜蘭縣是好山、好水、好「𨑨迌」，好不好？"],["卓院長榮泰：好的，謝謝委員。"],["陳委員俊宇：謝謝院長、謝謝部長。"],["主席：謝謝陳委員。接下來請黃捷委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":195,"meet_id":"院會-11-2-5","speakers":["韓國瑜","江啟臣","賴瑞隆","陳亭妃","陳俊宇","黃捷","李坤城","邱志偉","魯明哲","林沛祥","黃珊珊","陳昭姿","林憶君","羅廷瑋","范雲","李彥秀","王世堅","盧縣一","邱若華","葉元之","何欣純","徐欣瑩","羅美玲","劉建國"],"page_start":109,"meetingDate":["2024-10-22"],"gazette_id":"1138101","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1138101_00004","1138101_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期第5次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢─ 詢答完畢─","agenda_id":"1138101_00009"}}}