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00:01:34,277\n這下一張圖表應該就顯示出來齁然後因為我們以前是每年都公布啦到108年的時候就變成兩年公布一次所以我明明看到109108是5.6那114年就變成到這個8.8%齁這個數據應該部長可以看得清楚嘛那我這個新的煙害防治法的上路是在去年\n\n4\n00:01:35,407 --> 00:01:50,083\n到現在我們全面已經來禁止這個電子煙了其實電子煙有的製造還有輸入、販賣、供應等等等這段時間那青少年使用電子煙的比例是上升還是下降部長知道嗎\n\n5\n00:01:52,711 --> 00:01:55,952\n可不可以請健康署看看有沒有做調查\n\n6\n00:02:10,918 --> 00:02:23,643\n報告委員,112年我們有針對這個國高中生使用的這個部分有做調查那現在正在做全數的一個處理應該很快的時間就會公佈這個112年使用狀況\n\n7\n00:02:26,815 --> 00:02:51,613\n所以簡單說就是112年到現在為止都還沒有正確的數據可以給部長可以給委員會可以給社會大眾做參考初步的數據因為還在最後的校準那就我之前看到在上個禮拜我們看到的數據應該還沒有經過校準所以我比較保守的說那目前看起來的增加的趨勢沒有我們想像中的那麼快速\n\n8\n00:02:53,499 --> 00:03:09,690\n沒有我們想像中我們是指你跟我還是你跟部長不是因為跟我原報告其實電子煙這個問題確實很嚴重我舉例來講在澳洲你就講得很嚴重了為什麼你還講說沒有我們想像中我們是指我們是指誰\n\n9\n00:03:10,610 --> 00:03:28,165\n抱歉委員因為在澳洲現在已經113塊到年底了嘛對不對那你為什麼112年而且你們是兩年嘛對108年之後你就改為兩年來公告一次嘛公布一次嘛因為跟國人吸煙調查是用間隔年來做是啊是啊間隔年沒有錯啊但是為什麼到現在112年年底\n\n10\n00:03:32,033 --> 00:03:32,854\n三四月配合到現在\n\n11\n00:03:53,766 --> 00:04:23,503\n你的30月是112年30月還是112年?今年今年30月那到現在已經也所以我們即將要公告這個好你的即將公告是什麼時候?大約應該可以在11月公告11月公告好謝謝接下來部長你看這兩則新聞這景荒坡最大的電子煙工廠查購90萬的這個煙彈那市值破億那另外一個是高雄小黃司機大汪浪警檢來驗電子煙油結果結果驗出三級毒品\n\n12\n00:04:24,709 --> 00:04:39,384\n就是這個一粒棉FM2的這個三級的毒品成分結果他瞬間下不出來他是原本是很有自信的喔他不以為他是抽到什麼結果一驗出來就變成這個樣子所以我是講說\n\n13\n00:04:40,922 --> 00:05:00,360\n你如果連這樣這樣單純的去抽這個電子煙不曉得煙有什麼成分然後連這樣一個司機都不會以為他抽到這個毒品結果是去抽到了所以這個事情我是覺得非常嚴重\n\n14\n00:05:01,010 --> 00:05:17,345\n所以是不是衛生部、教育部甚至今天警政署的相關的官員有到嗎?然後在針對這個電子煙在校園的流竄有沒有什麼更積極的作為?有嗎?教育部是,我們麻煩教育部來\n\n15\n00:05:20,578 --> 00:05:44,105\n各位委員在校園的部分我們是結合校園的健康促進計畫加強教職員工對於這個電子煙以及加熱煙的這個外型的辨識以及造成的危害的認識那透過學生就是透過平常教職員工對於學生的接觸瞭解觀察學生是不是有使用或者攜帶相關物品的狀況如果有的話會進行檢查以及通報這個衛生局開罰\n\n16\n00:05:46,618 --> 00:05:58,570\n那你們這邊有沒有針對就是高中生以下的就教育部這邊自己去做跟教育部有配合去做調查這個比例有多高有沒有在逐年上升\n\n17\n00:05:59,694 --> 00:06:28,461\n跟委員報告因為這個部分是因為近期內才列為這個管制以及這個毒品的部分是沒有錯沒有錯這段期間在香港通報的部分確實有大概有一些件數不過就是只有短期間內所以很難看到趨勢從去年到現在嘛對不對所以很短時間很難去看到這個趨勢也是這樣嘛是所以你們預計啦就是說就當當就從去年這個煙災防治法修正之後就應該開始就有一個\n\n18\n00:06:29,401 --> 00:06:29,581\n教育部\n\n19\n00:06:58,159 --> 00:07:03,842\n今天大家有很多委員都談到這個喪屍煙彈那從底的部分我就不再贅述我只是簡單強調一下我請問這個喪屍煙彈我們可以去立即做判斷是我有吸食\n\n20\n00:07:29,485 --> 00:07:42,173\n最快的方式就是這個快篩試劑嘛對不對對不對檢控署看起來是這樣子是用快篩試劑最快部長替這個檢控署打呼也很好了齁\n\n21\n00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:50,587\n10月15號的時候新北市議會有特別針對當時新北市警局有提出來說這個快車四季目前為止他們是採購了1360劑但實際上他們需求將近高達8000劑\n\n22\n00:08:01,578 --> 00:08:18,792\n那我寫下結束詞這部長你可能就很難答覆了他的8000劑到位了嗎?包委員根據我們毒氣中心我是警政署刑事局的毒氣中心主任根據我們的了解新北市他們現在又採購了8000的已經到位了到位了好那全國的需求\n\n23\n00:08:19,432 --> 00:08:43,539\n六都來講新北市就已經在10月15號當時是沒有辦法到位那你現在跟我討論是到位了那全國針對這種快篩試劑因為它可以直接代表你警政署代表國家要向這個上次煙災的做宣戰嘛的一個最好的一個武器嘛對不對好那全國需要這樣的一個快篩試劑的量量能你們到位了嗎\n\n24\n00:08:46,183 --> 00:09:09,341\n現在根據我們的統計全國已經買了快一萬劑了那這縣市各縣市快一萬劑新北市就佔了八千劑喔八千劑不包含新北的八千劑不包含新北八千劑不包含對嘛啊一個新北市六都就叫八千劑了那你現在準備一萬劑那顯然全台連其他五都都不夠啦\n\n25\n00:09:10,732 --> 00:09:17,795\n報告委員這個各縣市他們會依照他們的實際的需求量去做一些採購那目前是採1萬劑那陸續會這個滾動的檢討來採購你這個滾動檢討來採購你大致上可以檢討到什麼時候有一個定案\n\n26\n00:09:28,649 --> 00:09:52,708\n你是滾動檢討清楚啦但是你這樣檢討我是不好意思跟你講你這樣檢討是很奇怪的一件事情因為新北市就要到八千那你現在檢討所才備用一萬那你到底知道什麼樣的檢討室檢討室的檢討我有點聽不太清楚我就講嘛就一個新北市就要八千了嘛你其他你這一萬也來不及供應這五都啊況且還有17個縣市啊\n\n27\n00:09:55,786 --> 00:10:23,016\n報告委員,我們會請他們再加強,然後我們也會去盤點的需求量。一個先行列好不好,這事情要快速啦。一個先行列,你把這個到底要供給多少的快篩試劑,我們來打擊這個上市煙彈的積極作為,提供給本委會參考好不好?可以,謝謝。好,謝謝。這最後我就要問部長了,部長,桃園部立院,他表示這個先行的毒品沒有藥物可以直接戒除腥癮。\n\n28\n00:10:24,036 --> 00:10:34,369\n我們不立院啦齁不立院對對對所以民眾有時候要求助卻無門所以他在10月起每週二下午開設這個成癮治療門診提供地檢署轉介\n\n29\n00:10:39,242 --> 00:10:54,392\n關起住戒癮治療服務也陪伴有益戒癮的民眾來探究這個成癮的根源所以我覺得桃園不利醫院來率先做這事情非常好那是不是全國的不利醫院都可以一併來做這樣的實施來設置所有開設這個相關的專診可以嗎\n\n30\n00:10:57,074 --> 00:11:11,841\n如果有這個需要我們會去努力好那我就請部長這邊是不是責成一下讓他們來做一個檢討嘛竟然台灣部立院都已經開了嘛是的對不對那其他部列是不是一併來來做這樣的一個門診的設立好不好好謝謝好謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9578\t37119\t好,謝謝主席。有請部長。98年我們通過這個煙害防治法的修正以後,最主要還是要治理青少年的煙害防治。那這幾年我們確實也看到這個青少年的使用傳統煙品的比例有所降低。\n38407\t58002\t但是根據國健署的統計我們未滿18歲的青少年使用新興煙品的比例正在逐年上升部長可以看這個資料其實110年那初估有7.9萬的未成年青少年正在使用電子煙資料顯示108年使用電子煙佔高中生的約5.6%但是到了110年卻暴增到8.8%\n68627\t94277\t這下一張圖表應該就顯示出來齁然後因為我們以前是每年都公布啦到108年的時候就變成兩年公布一次所以我明明看到109108是5.6那114年就變成到這個8.8%齁這個數據應該部長可以看得清楚嘛那我這個新的煙害防治法的上路是在去年\n95407\t110083\t到現在我們全面已經來禁止這個電子煙了其實電子煙有的製造還有輸入、販賣、供應等等等這段時間那青少年使用電子煙的比例是上升還是下降部長知道嗎\n112711\t115952\t可不可以請健康署看看有沒有做調查\n130918\t143643\t報告委員,112年我們有針對這個國高中生使用的這個部分有做調查那現在正在做全數的一個處理應該很快的時間就會公佈這個112年使用狀況\n146815\t171613\t所以簡單說就是112年到現在為止都還沒有正確的數據可以給部長可以給委員會可以給社會大眾做參考初步的數據因為還在最後的校準那就我之前看到在上個禮拜我們看到的數據應該還沒有經過校準所以我比較保守的說那目前看起來的增加的趨勢沒有我們想像中的那麼快速\n173499\t189690\t沒有我們想像中我們是指你跟我還是你跟部長不是因為跟我原報告其實電子煙這個問題確實很嚴重我舉例來講在澳洲你就講得很嚴重了為什麼你還講說沒有我們想像中我們是指我們是指誰\n190610\t208165\t抱歉委員因為在澳洲現在已經113塊到年底了嘛對不對那你為什麼112年而且你們是兩年嘛對108年之後你就改為兩年來公告一次嘛公布一次嘛因為跟國人吸煙調查是用間隔年來做是啊是啊間隔年沒有錯啊但是為什麼到現在112年年底\n212033\t212854\t三四月配合到現在\n233766\t263503\t你的30月是112年30月還是112年?今年今年30月那到現在已經也所以我們即將要公告這個好你的即將公告是什麼時候?大約應該可以在11月公告11月公告好謝謝接下來部長你看這兩則新聞這景荒坡最大的電子煙工廠查購90萬的這個煙彈那市值破億那另外一個是高雄小黃司機大汪浪警檢來驗電子煙油結果結果驗出三級毒品\n264709\t279384\t就是這個一粒棉FM2的這個三級的毒品成分結果他瞬間下不出來他是原本是很有自信的喔他不以為他是抽到什麼結果一驗出來就變成這個樣子所以我是講說\n280922\t300360\t你如果連這樣這樣單純的去抽這個電子煙不曉得煙有什麼成分然後連這樣一個司機都不會以為他抽到這個毒品結果是去抽到了所以這個事情我是覺得非常嚴重\n301010\t317345\t所以是不是衛生部、教育部甚至今天警政署的相關的官員有到嗎?然後在針對這個電子煙在校園的流竄有沒有什麼更積極的作為?有嗎?教育部是,我們麻煩教育部來\n320578\t344105\t各位委員在校園的部分我們是結合校園的健康促進計畫加強教職員工對於這個電子煙以及加熱煙的這個外型的辨識以及造成的危害的認識那透過學生就是透過平常教職員工對於學生的接觸瞭解觀察學生是不是有使用或者攜帶相關物品的狀況如果有的話會進行檢查以及通報這個衛生局開罰\n346618\t358570\t那你們這邊有沒有針對就是高中生以下的就教育部這邊自己去做跟教育部有配合去做調查這個比例有多高有沒有在逐年上升\n359694\t388461\t跟委員報告因為這個部分是因為近期內才列為這個管制以及這個毒品的部分是沒有錯沒有錯這段期間在香港通報的部分確實有大概有一些件數不過就是只有短期間內所以很難看到趨勢從去年到現在嘛對不對所以很短時間很難去看到這個趨勢也是這樣嘛是所以你們預計啦就是說就當當就從去年這個煙災防治法修正之後就應該開始就有一個\n389401\t389581\t教育部\n418159\t423842\t今天大家有很多委員都談到這個喪屍煙彈那從底的部分我就不再贅述我只是簡單強調一下我請問這個喪屍煙彈我們可以去立即做判斷是我有吸食\n449485\t462173\t最快的方式就是這個快篩試劑嘛對不對對不對檢控署看起來是這樣子是用快篩試劑最快部長替這個檢控署打呼也很好了齁\n463440\t470587\t10月15號的時候新北市議會有特別針對當時新北市警局有提出來說這個快車四季目前為止他們是採購了1360劑但實際上他們需求將近高達8000劑\n481578\t498792\t那我寫下結束詞這部長你可能就很難答覆了他的8000劑到位了嗎?包委員根據我們毒氣中心我是警政署刑事局的毒氣中心主任根據我們的了解新北市他們現在又採購了8000的已經到位了到位了好那全國的需求\n499432\t523539\t六都來講新北市就已經在10月15號當時是沒有辦法到位那你現在跟我討論是到位了那全國針對這種快篩試劑因為它可以直接代表你警政署代表國家要向這個上次煙災的做宣戰嘛的一個最好的一個武器嘛對不對好那全國需要這樣的一個快篩試劑的量量能你們到位了嗎\n526183\t549341\t現在根據我們的統計全國已經買了快一萬劑了那這縣市各縣市快一萬劑新北市就佔了八千劑喔八千劑不包含新北的八千劑不包含新北八千劑不包含對嘛啊一個新北市六都就叫八千劑了那你現在準備一萬劑那顯然全台連其他五都都不夠啦\n550732\t557795\t報告委員這個各縣市他們會依照他們的實際的需求量去做一些採購那目前是採1萬劑那陸續會這個滾動的檢討來採購你這個滾動檢討來採購你大致上可以檢討到什麼時候有一個定案\n568649\t592708\t你是滾動檢討清楚啦但是你這樣檢討我是不好意思跟你講你這樣檢討是很奇怪的一件事情因為新北市就要到八千那你現在檢討所才備用一萬那你到底知道什麼樣的檢討室檢討室的檢討我有點聽不太清楚我就講嘛就一個新北市就要八千了嘛你其他你這一萬也來不及供應這五都啊況且還有17個縣市啊\n595786\t623016\t報告委員,我們會請他們再加強,然後我們也會去盤點的需求量。一個先行列好不好,這事情要快速啦。一個先行列,你把這個到底要供給多少的快篩試劑,我們來打擊這個上市煙彈的積極作為,提供給本委會參考好不好?可以,謝謝。好,謝謝。這最後我就要問部長了,部長,桃園部立院,他表示這個先行的毒品沒有藥物可以直接戒除腥癮。\n624036\t634369\t我們不立院啦齁不立院對對對所以民眾有時候要求助卻無門所以他在10月起每週二下午開設這個成癮治療門診提供地檢署轉介\n639242\t654392\t關起住戒癮治療服務也陪伴有益戒癮的民眾來探究這個成癮的根源所以我覺得桃園不利醫院來率先做這事情非常好那是不是全國的不利醫院都可以一併來做這樣的實施來設置所有開設這個相關的專診可以嗎\n657074\t671841\t如果有這個需要我們會去努力好 那我就請部長這邊是不是責成一下讓他們來做一個檢討嘛竟然台灣部立院都已經開了嘛是的 對不對那其他部列是不是一併來來做這樣的一個門診的設立好不好好 謝謝好 謝謝主席\n","txt":"好,謝謝主席。有請部長。98年我們通過這個煙害防治法的修正以後,最主要還是要治理青少年的煙害防治。那這幾年我們確實也看到這個青少年的使用傳統煙品的比例有所降低。\n但是根據國健署的統計我們未滿18歲的青少年使用新興煙品的比例正在逐年上升部長可以看這個資料其實110年那初估有7.9萬的未成年青少年正在使用電子煙資料顯示108年使用電子煙佔高中生的約5.6%但是到了110年卻暴增到8.8%\n這下一張圖表應該就顯示出來齁然後因為我們以前是每年都公布啦到108年的時候就變成兩年公布一次所以我明明看到109108是5.6那114年就變成到這個8.8%齁這個數據應該部長可以看得清楚嘛那我這個新的煙害防治法的上路是在去年\n到現在我們全面已經來禁止這個電子煙了其實電子煙有的製造還有輸入、販賣、供應等等等這段時間那青少年使用電子煙的比例是上升還是下降部長知道嗎\n可不可以請健康署看看有沒有做調查\n報告委員,112年我們有針對這個國高中生使用的這個部分有做調查那現在正在做全數的一個處理應該很快的時間就會公佈這個112年使用狀況\n所以簡單說就是112年到現在為止都還沒有正確的數據可以給部長可以給委員會可以給社會大眾做參考初步的數據因為還在最後的校準那就我之前看到在上個禮拜我們看到的數據應該還沒有經過校準所以我比較保守的說那目前看起來的增加的趨勢沒有我們想像中的那麼快速\n沒有我們想像中我們是指你跟我還是你跟部長不是因為跟我原報告其實電子煙這個問題確實很嚴重我舉例來講在澳洲你就講得很嚴重了為什麼你還講說沒有我們想像中我們是指我們是指誰\n抱歉委員因為在澳洲現在已經113塊到年底了嘛對不對那你為什麼112年而且你們是兩年嘛對108年之後你就改為兩年來公告一次嘛公布一次嘛因為跟國人吸煙調查是用間隔年來做是啊是啊間隔年沒有錯啊但是為什麼到現在112年年底\n三四月配合到現在\n你的30月是112年30月還是112年?今年今年30月那到現在已經也所以我們即將要公告這個好你的即將公告是什麼時候?大約應該可以在11月公告11月公告好謝謝接下來部長你看這兩則新聞這景荒坡最大的電子煙工廠查購90萬的這個煙彈那市值破億那另外一個是高雄小黃司機大汪浪警檢來驗電子煙油結果結果驗出三級毒品\n就是這個一粒棉FM2的這個三級的毒品成分結果他瞬間下不出來他是原本是很有自信的喔他不以為他是抽到什麼結果一驗出來就變成這個樣子所以我是講說\n你如果連這樣這樣單純的去抽這個電子煙不曉得煙有什麼成分然後連這樣一個司機都不會以為他抽到這個毒品結果是去抽到了所以這個事情我是覺得非常嚴重\n所以是不是衛生部、教育部甚至今天警政署的相關的官員有到嗎?然後在針對這個電子煙在校園的流竄有沒有什麼更積極的作為?有嗎?教育部是,我們麻煩教育部來\n各位委員在校園的部分我們是結合校園的健康促進計畫加強教職員工對於這個電子煙以及加熱煙的這個外型的辨識以及造成的危害的認識那透過學生就是透過平常教職員工對於學生的接觸瞭解觀察學生是不是有使用或者攜帶相關物品的狀況如果有的話會進行檢查以及通報這個衛生局開罰\n那你們這邊有沒有針對就是高中生以下的就教育部這邊自己去做跟教育部有配合去做調查這個比例有多高有沒有在逐年上升\n跟委員報告因為這個部分是因為近期內才列為這個管制以及這個毒品的部分是沒有錯沒有錯這段期間在香港通報的部分確實有大概有一些件數不過就是只有短期間內所以很難看到趨勢從去年到現在嘛對不對所以很短時間很難去看到這個趨勢也是這樣嘛是所以你們預計啦就是說就當當就從去年這個煙災防治法修正之後就應該開始就有一個\n教育部\n今天大家有很多委員都談到這個喪屍煙彈那從底的部分我就不再贅述我只是簡單強調一下我請問這個喪屍煙彈我們可以去立即做判斷是我有吸食\n最快的方式就是這個快篩試劑嘛對不對對不對檢控署看起來是這樣子是用快篩試劑最快部長替這個檢控署打呼也很好了齁\n10月15號的時候新北市議會有特別針對當時新北市警局有提出來說這個快車四季目前為止他們是採購了1360劑但實際上他們需求將近高達8000劑\n那我寫下結束詞這部長你可能就很難答覆了他的8000劑到位了嗎?包委員根據我們毒氣中心我是警政署刑事局的毒氣中心主任根據我們的了解新北市他們現在又採購了8000的已經到位了到位了好那全國的需求\n六都來講新北市就已經在10月15號當時是沒有辦法到位那你現在跟我討論是到位了那全國針對這種快篩試劑因為它可以直接代表你警政署代表國家要向這個上次煙災的做宣戰嘛的一個最好的一個武器嘛對不對好那全國需要這樣的一個快篩試劑的量量能你們到位了嗎\n現在根據我們的統計全國已經買了快一萬劑了那這縣市各縣市快一萬劑新北市就佔了八千劑喔八千劑不包含新北的八千劑不包含新北八千劑不包含對嘛啊一個新北市六都就叫八千劑了那你現在準備一萬劑那顯然全台連其他五都都不夠啦\n報告委員這個各縣市他們會依照他們的實際的需求量去做一些採購那目前是採1萬劑那陸續會這個滾動的檢討來採購你這個滾動檢討來採購你大致上可以檢討到什麼時候有一個定案\n你是滾動檢討清楚啦但是你這樣檢討我是不好意思跟你講你這樣檢討是很奇怪的一件事情因為新北市就要到八千那你現在檢討所才備用一萬那你到底知道什麼樣的檢討室檢討室的檢討我有點聽不太清楚我就講嘛就一個新北市就要八千了嘛你其他你這一萬也來不及供應這五都啊況且還有17個縣市啊\n報告委員,我們會請他們再加強,然後我們也會去盤點的需求量。一個先行列好不好,這事情要快速啦。一個先行列,你把這個到底要供給多少的快篩試劑,我們來打擊這個上市煙彈的積極作為,提供給本委會參考好不好?可以,謝謝。好,謝謝。這最後我就要問部長了,部長,桃園部立院,他表示這個先行的毒品沒有藥物可以直接戒除腥癮。\n我們不立院啦齁不立院對對對所以民眾有時候要求助卻無門所以他在10月起每週二下午開設這個成癮治療門診提供地檢署轉介\n關起住戒癮治療服務也陪伴有益戒癮的民眾來探究這個成癮的根源所以我覺得桃園不利醫院來率先做這事情非常好那是不是全國的不利醫院都可以一併來做這樣的實施來設置所有開設這個相關的專診可以嗎\n如果有這個需要我們會去努力好 那我就請部長這邊是不是責成一下讓他們來做一個檢討嘛竟然台灣部立院都已經開了嘛是的 對不對那其他部列是不是一併來來做這樣的一個門診的設立好不好好 謝謝好 謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.578 --> 00:37.119\n好,謝謝主席。有請部長。98年我們通過這個煙害防治法的修正以後,最主要還是要治理青少年的煙害防治。那這幾年我們確實也看到這個青少年的使用傳統煙品的比例有所降低。\n\n00:38.407 --> 00:58.002\n但是根據國健署的統計我們未滿18歲的青少年使用新興煙品的比例正在逐年上升部長可以看這個資料其實110年那初估有7.9萬的未成年青少年正在使用電子煙資料顯示108年使用電子煙佔高中生的約5.6%但是到了110年卻暴增到8.8%\n\n01:08.627 --> 01:34.277\n這下一張圖表應該就顯示出來齁然後因為我們以前是每年都公布啦到108年的時候就變成兩年公布一次所以我明明看到109108是5.6那114年就變成到這個8.8%齁這個數據應該部長可以看得清楚嘛那我這個新的煙害防治法的上路是在去年\n\n01:35.407 --> 01:50.083\n到現在我們全面已經來禁止這個電子煙了其實電子煙有的製造還有輸入、販賣、供應等等等這段時間那青少年使用電子煙的比例是上升還是下降部長知道嗎\n\n01:52.711 --> 01:55.952\n可不可以請健康署看看有沒有做調查\n\n02:10.918 --> 02:23.643\n報告委員,112年我們有針對這個國高中生使用的這個部分有做調查那現在正在做全數的一個處理應該很快的時間就會公佈這個112年使用狀況\n\n02:26.815 --> 02:51.613\n所以簡單說就是112年到現在為止都還沒有正確的數據可以給部長可以給委員會可以給社會大眾做參考初步的數據因為還在最後的校準那就我之前看到在上個禮拜我們看到的數據應該還沒有經過校準所以我比較保守的說那目前看起來的增加的趨勢沒有我們想像中的那麼快速\n\n02:53.499 --> 03:09.690\n沒有我們想像中我們是指你跟我還是你跟部長不是因為跟我原報告其實電子煙這個問題確實很嚴重我舉例來講在澳洲你就講得很嚴重了為什麼你還講說沒有我們想像中我們是指我們是指誰\n\n03:10.610 --> 03:28.165\n抱歉委員因為在澳洲現在已經113塊到年底了嘛對不對那你為什麼112年而且你們是兩年嘛對108年之後你就改為兩年來公告一次嘛公布一次嘛因為跟國人吸煙調查是用間隔年來做是啊是啊間隔年沒有錯啊但是為什麼到現在112年年底\n\n03:32.033 --> 03:32.854\n三四月配合到現在\n\n03:53.766 --> 04:23.503\n你的30月是112年30月還是112年?今年今年30月那到現在已經也所以我們即將要公告這個好你的即將公告是什麼時候?大約應該可以在11月公告11月公告好謝謝接下來部長你看這兩則新聞這景荒坡最大的電子煙工廠查購90萬的這個煙彈那市值破億那另外一個是高雄小黃司機大汪浪警檢來驗電子煙油結果結果驗出三級毒品\n\n04:24.709 --> 04:39.384\n就是這個一粒棉FM2的這個三級的毒品成分結果他瞬間下不出來他是原本是很有自信的喔他不以為他是抽到什麼結果一驗出來就變成這個樣子所以我是講說\n\n04:40.922 --> 05:00.360\n你如果連這樣這樣單純的去抽這個電子煙不曉得煙有什麼成分然後連這樣一個司機都不會以為他抽到這個毒品結果是去抽到了所以這個事情我是覺得非常嚴重\n\n05:01.010 --> 05:17.345\n所以是不是衛生部、教育部甚至今天警政署的相關的官員有到嗎?然後在針對這個電子煙在校園的流竄有沒有什麼更積極的作為?有嗎?教育部是,我們麻煩教育部來\n\n05:20.578 --> 05:44.105\n各位委員在校園的部分我們是結合校園的健康促進計畫加強教職員工對於這個電子煙以及加熱煙的這個外型的辨識以及造成的危害的認識那透過學生就是透過平常教職員工對於學生的接觸瞭解觀察學生是不是有使用或者攜帶相關物品的狀況如果有的話會進行檢查以及通報這個衛生局開罰\n\n05:46.618 --> 05:58.570\n那你們這邊有沒有針對就是高中生以下的就教育部這邊自己去做跟教育部有配合去做調查這個比例有多高有沒有在逐年上升\n\n05:59.694 --> 06:28.461\n跟委員報告因為這個部分是因為近期內才列為這個管制以及這個毒品的部分是沒有錯沒有錯這段期間在香港通報的部分確實有大概有一些件數不過就是只有短期間內所以很難看到趨勢從去年到現在嘛對不對所以很短時間很難去看到這個趨勢也是這樣嘛是所以你們預計啦就是說就當當就從去年這個煙災防治法修正之後就應該開始就有一個\n\n06:29.401 --> 06:29.581\n教育部\n\n06:58.159 --> 07:03.842\n今天大家有很多委員都談到這個喪屍煙彈那從底的部分我就不再贅述我只是簡單強調一下我請問這個喪屍煙彈我們可以去立即做判斷是我有吸食\n\n07:29.485 --> 07:42.173\n最快的方式就是這個快篩試劑嘛對不對對不對檢控署看起來是這樣子是用快篩試劑最快部長替這個檢控署打呼也很好了齁\n\n07:43.440 --> 07:50.587\n10月15號的時候新北市議會有特別針對當時新北市警局有提出來說這個快車四季目前為止他們是採購了1360劑但實際上他們需求將近高達8000劑\n\n08:01.578 --> 08:18.792\n那我寫下結束詞這部長你可能就很難答覆了他的8000劑到位了嗎?包委員根據我們毒氣中心我是警政署刑事局的毒氣中心主任根據我們的了解新北市他們現在又採購了8000的已經到位了到位了好那全國的需求\n\n08:19.432 --> 08:43.539\n六都來講新北市就已經在10月15號當時是沒有辦法到位那你現在跟我討論是到位了那全國針對這種快篩試劑因為它可以直接代表你警政署代表國家要向這個上次煙災的做宣戰嘛的一個最好的一個武器嘛對不對好那全國需要這樣的一個快篩試劑的量量能你們到位了嗎\n\n08:46.183 --> 09:09.341\n現在根據我們的統計全國已經買了快一萬劑了那這縣市各縣市快一萬劑新北市就佔了八千劑喔八千劑不包含新北的八千劑不包含新北八千劑不包含對嘛啊一個新北市六都就叫八千劑了那你現在準備一萬劑那顯然全台連其他五都都不夠啦\n\n09:10.732 --> 09:17.795\n報告委員這個各縣市他們會依照他們的實際的需求量去做一些採購那目前是採1萬劑那陸續會這個滾動的檢討來採購你這個滾動檢討來採購你大致上可以檢討到什麼時候有一個定案\n\n09:28.649 --> 09:52.708\n你是滾動檢討清楚啦但是你這樣檢討我是不好意思跟你講你這樣檢討是很奇怪的一件事情因為新北市就要到八千那你現在檢討所才備用一萬那你到底知道什麼樣的檢討室檢討室的檢討我有點聽不太清楚我就講嘛就一個新北市就要八千了嘛你其他你這一萬也來不及供應這五都啊況且還有17個縣市啊\n\n09:55.786 --> 10:23.016\n報告委員,我們會請他們再加強,然後我們也會去盤點的需求量。一個先行列好不好,這事情要快速啦。一個先行列,你把這個到底要供給多少的快篩試劑,我們來打擊這個上市煙彈的積極作為,提供給本委會參考好不好?可以,謝謝。好,謝謝。這最後我就要問部長了,部長,桃園部立院,他表示這個先行的毒品沒有藥物可以直接戒除腥癮。\n\n10:24.036 --> 10:34.369\n我們不立院啦齁不立院對對對所以民眾有時候要求助卻無門所以他在10月起每週二下午開設這個成癮治療門診提供地檢署轉介\n\n10:39.242 --> 10:54.392\n關起住戒癮治療服務也陪伴有益戒癮的民眾來探究這個成癮的根源所以我覺得桃園不利醫院來率先做這事情非常好那是不是全國的不利醫院都可以一併來做這樣的實施來設置所有開設這個相關的專診可以嗎\n\n10:57.074 --> 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