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00:00:46,970\n范委員你好部長早安今天有三件事情要跟您討論第一件事情就是我想我有聽到部長講國發基金有四大百億投資在文創產業的部分應該是第二個百億吧文化部打算如何讓基金有更好的發揮創造台流不會只有韓流我想這個部分是不是請部長可以說明一下\n\n3\n00:00:48,171 --> 00:01:13,225\n首先外面有點誤會就是國發基金跟我們的輔導金其實國發基金是一個投資的概念投資就是剛開始是投資公司後來同意我們投資專案所以我要非常感謝我們的國發會的劉主委我一上任第一件事情就拜託他給我們下一個100億為什麼呢因為大家都知道如果我們沒有足夠的錢我們完全\n\n4\n00:01:14,065 --> 00:01:42,251\n委員會在這個產業中消失因為韓國跟日本的那個投在文創產業包括影視產業的錢是遠遠超過我們10倍20倍的所以這個100億非常重要就是我們得用這個100億來去投資鼓勵民間的資金引到我們整個文創產業先是建立幾個基金比如說我前面已經報告過中華電信遠傳大哥大我們先去尋找這些已經擁有這個\n\n5\n00:01:44,732 --> 00:01:44,752\n﹚范雲\n\n6\n00:02:01,906 --> 00:02:01,926\n﹚范雲\n\n7\n00:02:18,644 --> 00:02:39,981\n另外三分之二就要民間拿錢出來所以這一百億第一件事情就是做這個第二件事情就是找國際合作找國際合作亞洲韓國或者國際的美國他們那些大公司我們也跟他一起合作最希望就是我們的影片拍出來可以賣到全世界的市場那這個真的需要我們政府先拿出第一筆錢\n\n8\n00:02:40,842 --> 00:03:02,783\n好那謝部長那聽起來部長有非常積極的爭取到就是這樣子一個100億那希望國發基金可以真的點燃我們文創產業的火花那當然也希望後續申請各方面的部分都能夠讓我們文化工作者覺得能夠更符合他們的需求那我相信文化部在努力中\n\n9\n00:03:03,564 --> 00:03:28,559\n那再來我也想請問部長這個黃流票的部分那部長應該有注意到就是其實就雨多田光這個新聞報導中你就有看到說的確已經開始有這個實名制而且會大幅減少不正常的搶票行為那之前我們本來希望修法讓文化部在法規中就要求實名制可是當時文化部是說用\n\n10\n00:03:29,079 --> 00:03:29,099\n﹚范雲﹚\n\n11\n00:03:56,836 --> 00:04:17,399\n隨機票價之後就變成2萬6那我們辦公室繼續去了解的情況就發現說問題出在說第一個我們目前鼓勵業者實名制售票的這個成效還是不佳第二個就是檢舉難以成案\n\n12\n00:04:18,419 --> 00:04:43,869\n我們收到陳情就是我今年4月也有問文化部目前檢舉的標準真的太嚴格了以你們創造的這個表單來講你等於是要先買黃牛票才能夠查黃牛票我也問了文化部文化部留給我很長的內容我發現文化部留給我的內容讀起來看好像怎麼改善\n\n13\n00:04:45,049 --> 00:05:13,800\n你們就是一下修要說要根據修社會秩序維護法一下就是說文創這個上次修過的法還不夠還要再修我是其實是覺得有一點點失望欸上一次就是好不容易大家這樣大修之後可是當時文化部的版本沒有預測到執行還是有問題現在跟我們提的方式說不然修社會秩序維護法要不然文創法什麼某一條還要再修那到底\n\n14\n00:05:14,620 --> 00:05:39,678\n有沒有可能在就是真的要再修法還是你們目前的行政作為就是降低檢舉門檻是不是可以做到的因為就我自己來研究的話也許你就降低檢舉的門檻要針對黃牛的圖利行為而非販售事後才追查因為我看你們給我的資料臺北市光是資料不全的就600多件那已經資料齊全的\n\n15\n00:05:43,220 --> 00:06:11,534\n如果沒有記錯的話兩三百件中好像只有九件各位數被裁罰光是資料符合之後都只有就是這麼低的筆數被裁罰那資料不全的那個以台北市你們給我的資料中法上路之後到現在六百多件都是資料不全你是不是可以針對這個部分好好的檢討那我現在提供兩個方向部長看看是不是可以\n\n16\n00:06:13,323 --> 00:06:27,050\n實名制還是要更積極的加強鼓勵業者使用就像我剛剛講的那個報導中他如果學習日本就是並用實名制的話大幅下降那業者的困難到底是什麼也許我們可以一起來協助為什麼他們不想要用實名制\n\n17\n00:06:30,171 --> 00:06:55,887\n那第二個檢舉的標準是不是可以落實那我這邊提兩個就是能不能夠就以他的行為面在販售而不是說我要釣魚因為我今天買到票才有第幾排這幾個位子嗎那買到票之後不就變成共犯了他就不會來檢舉了那如果這個行為出現的時候然後轉售票合理成本的種類跟比例那這個部分是不是也能夠明定那部長是不是可以簡短回答因為我待會還有一題要請問您\n\n18\n00:06:58,717 --> 00:06:58,737\n﹚范雲\n\n19\n00:07:14,344 --> 00:07:38,616\n好,那請部長一個月內給我一個報告好不好?初步的報告可以齁?另外我想剛剛有委員談到性別平等部長應該知道我們是亞洲最性別平等的國家可是我們卻沒有一個國家級的婦女性別人權館我們有這麼多的重要歷史世界跟人權婦女性別團體的努力\n\n20\n00:07:39,456 --> 00:07:58,398\n我們辦公室去了解說南韓在婦女權益比我們差很多可是他們已經有婦女歷史館戰爭與女性人權博物館不管是慰安婦或者轉型正義中的女性的資料烏克蘭也都有相關的而是他們性別平權的指數都還不比我們\n\n21\n00:07:59,099 --> 00:08:11,680\n所以請問部長如果台灣要設立婦女性別人權管您覺得可以如何規劃呢?第一個您就是認不認同應該要這樣管第二個如果要規劃您覺得可以怎麼規劃呢?\n\n22\n00:08:14,215 --> 00:08:40,233\n其實台灣的婦女的人權的確在全世界的排名是非常前面的所以如果我們要成立一個人權管可能他就是要一個我們在性別的奮鬥的過程中有足夠的歷史但是這個社管這件事情牽涉到行政院的一些管所的那個結構這點你問我要如何規劃我一下還沒想出來\n\n23\n00:08:42,055 --> 00:09:02,294\n對部長還沒想出來但是我謝謝你很認同那你還沒想出方法我最近想了半天想到一個方法跟部長請議我知道你們這個人權館展示的典藏大樓在4月開工那雖然開工前那部長應該有聽聞有一些爭議嘛人權館不同的想法可是看起來已經來不及了\n\n24\n00:09:02,754 --> 00:09:29,700\n就是就在開工了因為這是一個重要的工程又有預算所以我想到的是文化部是不是可以評估那當然也找我們婦女跟人權團性別團體一起人權團一起討論這中間居然這麼多層的話有沒有可能舉例來說譬如說一層他就放在婦女性別人權這個主題上我覺得我今天只是跟你說是不是文化部可以去評估看看部長覺得呢\n\n25\n00:09:31,192 --> 00:09:48,963\n其實我剛剛也被質詢到說這個地方是白色恐怖為主的一些展覽那事實上我來到文化部之後我就希望我們人權館開始推出大型的電影就是講人權電影人權電影裡面就有像剛剛您提到的婦女與性別的人權\n\n26\n00:09:49,904 --> 00:10:03,940\n就是說人群不再限於只有白色恐怖這樣的這個歷史記錄所以您剛才提的我不敢立刻回答你是因為我來的時候他已經開始動工了我得了解一下他裡面原來的一些內容我再回答你\n\n27\n00:10:04,921 --> 00:10:34,390\n當然我想其實地點是不是在那個部分可能有很多要考慮的那我想今天就請部長能夠承諾開始研議第一個婦女性別人權管的可能規劃第二個那很明確的展出應該要含納各歷史時期推動爭取女性權益跟性別平權的過程這樣可以嗎可以那部長我這個時間多一點好了那個是不是您覺得多少時間可以給我一個初步的報告呢\n\n28\n00:10:35,516 --> 00:10:40,460\n大概3個月要不要?好沒問題3個月因為這個好事需要多一點時間來琢磨謝謝部長辛苦了\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n169\t10096\t范雲召委質詢謝謝召委有請部長有請李部長\n17447\t46970\t范委員你好部長早安今天有三件事情要跟您討論第一件事情就是我想我有聽到部長講國發基金有四大百億投資在文創產業的部分應該是第二個百億吧文化部打算如何讓基金有更好的發揮創造台流不會只有韓流我想這個部分是不是請部長可以說明一下\n48171\t73225\t首先外面有點誤會就是國發基金跟我們的輔導金其實國發基金是一個投資的概念投資就是剛開始是投資公司後來同意我們投資專案所以我要非常感謝我們的國發會的劉主委我一上任第一件事情就拜託他給我們下一個100億為什麼呢因為大家都知道如果我們沒有足夠的錢我們完全\n74065\t102251\t委員會在這個產業中消失因為韓國跟日本的那個投在文創產業包括影視產業的錢是遠遠超過我們10倍20倍的所以這個100億非常重要就是我們得用這個100億來去投資鼓勵民間的資金引到我們整個文創產業先是建立幾個基金比如說我前面已經報告過中華電信遠傳大哥大我們先去尋找這些已經擁有這個\n104732\t104752\t﹚范雲\n121906\t121926\t﹚范雲\n138644\t159981\t另外三分之二就要民間拿錢出來所以這一百億第一件事情就是做這個第二件事情就是找國際合作找國際合作亞洲韓國或者國際的美國他們那些大公司我們也跟他一起合作最希望就是我們的影片拍出來可以賣到全世界的市場那這個真的需要我們政府先拿出第一筆錢\n160842\t182783\t好那謝部長那聽起來部長有非常積極的爭取到就是這樣子一個100億那希望國發基金可以真的點燃我們文創產業的火花那當然也希望後續申請各方面的部分都能夠讓我們文化工作者覺得能夠更符合他們的需求那我相信文化部在努力中\n183564\t208559\t那再來我也想請問部長這個黃流票的部分那部長應該有注意到就是其實就雨多田光這個新聞報導中你就有看到說的確已經開始有這個實名制而且會大幅減少不正常的搶票行為那之前我們本來希望修法讓文化部在法規中就要求實名制可是當時文化部是說用\n209079\t209099\t﹚范雲﹚\n236836\t257399\t隨機票價之後就變成2萬6那我們辦公室繼續去了解的情況就發現說問題出在說第一個我們目前鼓勵業者實名制售票的這個成效還是不佳第二個就是檢舉難以成案\n258419\t283869\t我們收到陳情就是我今年4月也有問文化部目前檢舉的標準真的太嚴格了以你們創造的這個表單來講你等於是要先買黃牛票才能夠查黃牛票我也問了文化部文化部留給我很長的內容我發現文化部留給我的內容讀起來看好像怎麼改善\n285049\t313800\t你們就是一下修要說要根據修社會秩序維護法一下就是說文創這個上次修過的法還不夠還要再修我是其實是覺得有一點點失望欸上一次就是好不容易大家這樣大修之後可是當時文化部的版本沒有預測到執行還是有問題現在跟我們提的方式說不然修社會秩序維護法要不然文創法什麼某一條還要再修那到底\n314620\t339678\t有沒有可能在就是真的要再修法還是你們目前的行政作為就是降低檢舉門檻是不是可以做到的因為就我自己來研究的話也許你就降低檢舉的門檻要針對黃牛的圖利行為而非販售事後才追查因為我看你們給我的資料臺北市光是資料不全的就600多件那已經資料齊全的\n343220\t371534\t如果沒有記錯的話兩三百件中好像只有九件各位數被裁罰光是資料符合之後都只有就是這麼低的筆數被裁罰那資料不全的那個以台北市你們給我的資料中法上路之後到現在六百多件都是資料不全你是不是可以針對這個部分好好的檢討那我現在提供兩個方向部長看看是不是可以\n373323\t387050\t實名制還是要更積極的加強鼓勵業者使用就像我剛剛講的那個報導中他如果學習日本就是並用實名制的話大幅下降那業者的困難到底是什麼也許我們可以一起來協助為什麼他們不想要用實名制\n390171\t415887\t那第二個檢舉的標準是不是可以落實那我這邊提兩個就是能不能夠就以他的行為面在販售而不是說我要釣魚因為我今天買到票才有第幾排這幾個位子嗎那買到票之後不就變成共犯了他就不會來檢舉了那如果這個行為出現的時候然後轉售票合理成本的種類跟比例那這個部分是不是也能夠明定那部長是不是可以簡短回答因為我待會還有一題要請問您\n418717\t418737\t﹚范雲\n434344\t458616\t好,那請部長一個月內給我一個報告好不好?初步的報告可以齁?另外我想剛剛有委員談到性別平等部長應該知道我們是亞洲最性別平等的國家可是我們卻沒有一個國家級的婦女性別人權館我們有這麼多的重要歷史世界跟人權婦女性別團體的努力\n459456\t478398\t我們辦公室去了解說南韓在婦女權益比我們差很多可是他們已經有婦女歷史館戰爭與女性人權博物館不管是慰安婦或者轉型正義中的女性的資料烏克蘭也都有相關的而是他們性別平權的指數都還不比我們\n479099\t491680\t所以請問部長如果台灣要設立婦女性別人權管您覺得可以如何規劃呢?第一個您就是認不認同應該要這樣管第二個如果要規劃您覺得可以怎麼規劃呢?\n494215\t520233\t其實台灣的婦女的人權的確在全世界的排名是非常前面的所以如果我們要成立一個人權管可能他就是要一個我們在性別的奮鬥的過程中有足夠的歷史但是這個社管這件事情牽涉到行政院的一些管所的那個結構這點你問我要如何規劃我一下還沒想出來\n522055\t542294\t對部長還沒想出來但是我謝謝你很認同那你還沒想出方法我最近想了半天想到一個方法跟部長請議我知道你們這個人權館展示的典藏大樓在4月開工那雖然開工前那部長應該有聽聞有一些爭議嘛人權館不同的想法可是看起來已經來不及了\n542754\t569700\t就是就在開工了因為這是一個重要的工程又有預算所以我想到的是文化部是不是可以評估那當然也找我們婦女跟人權團性別團體一起人權團一起討論這中間居然這麼多層的話有沒有可能舉例來說譬如說一層他就放在婦女性別人權這個主題上我覺得我今天只是跟你說是不是文化部可以去評估看看部長覺得呢\n571192\t588963\t其實我剛剛也被質詢到說這個地方是白色恐怖為主的一些展覽那事實上我來到文化部之後我就希望我們人權館開始推出大型的電影就是講人權電影人權電影裡面就有像剛剛您提到的婦女與性別的人權\n589904\t603940\t就是說人群不再限於只有白色恐怖這樣的這個歷史記錄所以您剛才提的我不敢立刻回答你是因為我來的時候他已經開始動工了我得了解一下他裡面原來的一些內容我再回答你\n604921\t634390\t當然我想其實地點是不是在那個部分可能有很多要考慮的那我想今天就請部長能夠承諾開始研議第一個婦女性別人權管的可能規劃第二個那很明確的展出應該要含納各歷史時期推動爭取女性權益跟性別平權的過程這樣可以嗎可以那部長我這個時間多一點好了那個是不是您覺得多少時間可以給我一個初步的報告呢\n635516\t640460\t大概3個月要不要?好沒問題3個月因為這個好事需要多一點時間來琢磨謝謝部長辛苦了\n","txt":"范雲召委質詢謝謝召委有請部長有請李部長\n范委員你好部長早安今天有三件事情要跟您討論第一件事情就是我想我有聽到部長講國發基金有四大百億投資在文創產業的部分應該是第二個百億吧文化部打算如何讓基金有更好的發揮創造台流不會只有韓流我想這個部分是不是請部長可以說明一下\n首先外面有點誤會就是國發基金跟我們的輔導金其實國發基金是一個投資的概念投資就是剛開始是投資公司後來同意我們投資專案所以我要非常感謝我們的國發會的劉主委我一上任第一件事情就拜託他給我們下一個100億為什麼呢因為大家都知道如果我們沒有足夠的錢我們完全\n委員會在這個產業中消失因為韓國跟日本的那個投在文創產業包括影視產業的錢是遠遠超過我們10倍20倍的所以這個100億非常重要就是我們得用這個100億來去投資鼓勵民間的資金引到我們整個文創產業先是建立幾個基金比如說我前面已經報告過中華電信遠傳大哥大我們先去尋找這些已經擁有這個\n﹚范雲\n﹚范雲\n另外三分之二就要民間拿錢出來所以這一百億第一件事情就是做這個第二件事情就是找國際合作找國際合作亞洲韓國或者國際的美國他們那些大公司我們也跟他一起合作最希望就是我們的影片拍出來可以賣到全世界的市場那這個真的需要我們政府先拿出第一筆錢\n好那謝部長那聽起來部長有非常積極的爭取到就是這樣子一個100億那希望國發基金可以真的點燃我們文創產業的火花那當然也希望後續申請各方面的部分都能夠讓我們文化工作者覺得能夠更符合他們的需求那我相信文化部在努力中\n那再來我也想請問部長這個黃流票的部分那部長應該有注意到就是其實就雨多田光這個新聞報導中你就有看到說的確已經開始有這個實名制而且會大幅減少不正常的搶票行為那之前我們本來希望修法讓文化部在法規中就要求實名制可是當時文化部是說用\n﹚范雲﹚\n隨機票價之後就變成2萬6那我們辦公室繼續去了解的情況就發現說問題出在說第一個我們目前鼓勵業者實名制售票的這個成效還是不佳第二個就是檢舉難以成案\n我們收到陳情就是我今年4月也有問文化部目前檢舉的標準真的太嚴格了以你們創造的這個表單來講你等於是要先買黃牛票才能夠查黃牛票我也問了文化部文化部留給我很長的內容我發現文化部留給我的內容讀起來看好像怎麼改善\n你們就是一下修要說要根據修社會秩序維護法一下就是說文創這個上次修過的法還不夠還要再修我是其實是覺得有一點點失望欸上一次就是好不容易大家這樣大修之後可是當時文化部的版本沒有預測到執行還是有問題現在跟我們提的方式說不然修社會秩序維護法要不然文創法什麼某一條還要再修那到底\n有沒有可能在就是真的要再修法還是你們目前的行政作為就是降低檢舉門檻是不是可以做到的因為就我自己來研究的話也許你就降低檢舉的門檻要針對黃牛的圖利行為而非販售事後才追查因為我看你們給我的資料臺北市光是資料不全的就600多件那已經資料齊全的\n如果沒有記錯的話兩三百件中好像只有九件各位數被裁罰光是資料符合之後都只有就是這麼低的筆數被裁罰那資料不全的那個以台北市你們給我的資料中法上路之後到現在六百多件都是資料不全你是不是可以針對這個部分好好的檢討那我現在提供兩個方向部長看看是不是可以\n實名制還是要更積極的加強鼓勵業者使用就像我剛剛講的那個報導中他如果學習日本就是並用實名制的話大幅下降那業者的困難到底是什麼也許我們可以一起來協助為什麼他們不想要用實名制\n那第二個檢舉的標準是不是可以落實那我這邊提兩個就是能不能夠就以他的行為面在販售而不是說我要釣魚因為我今天買到票才有第幾排這幾個位子嗎那買到票之後不就變成共犯了他就不會來檢舉了那如果這個行為出現的時候然後轉售票合理成本的種類跟比例那這個部分是不是也能夠明定那部長是不是可以簡短回答因為我待會還有一題要請問您\n﹚范雲\n好,那請部長一個月內給我一個報告好不好?初步的報告可以齁?另外我想剛剛有委員談到性別平等部長應該知道我們是亞洲最性別平等的國家可是我們卻沒有一個國家級的婦女性別人權館我們有這麼多的重要歷史世界跟人權婦女性別團體的努力\n我們辦公室去了解說南韓在婦女權益比我們差很多可是他們已經有婦女歷史館戰爭與女性人權博物館不管是慰安婦或者轉型正義中的女性的資料烏克蘭也都有相關的而是他們性別平權的指數都還不比我們\n所以請問部長如果台灣要設立婦女性別人權管您覺得可以如何規劃呢?第一個您就是認不認同應該要這樣管第二個如果要規劃您覺得可以怎麼規劃呢?\n其實台灣的婦女的人權的確在全世界的排名是非常前面的所以如果我們要成立一個人權管可能他就是要一個我們在性別的奮鬥的過程中有足夠的歷史但是這個社管這件事情牽涉到行政院的一些管所的那個結構這點你問我要如何規劃我一下還沒想出來\n對部長還沒想出來但是我謝謝你很認同那你還沒想出方法我最近想了半天想到一個方法跟部長請議我知道你們這個人權館展示的典藏大樓在4月開工那雖然開工前那部長應該有聽聞有一些爭議嘛人權館不同的想法可是看起來已經來不及了\n就是就在開工了因為這是一個重要的工程又有預算所以我想到的是文化部是不是可以評估那當然也找我們婦女跟人權團性別團體一起人權團一起討論這中間居然這麼多層的話有沒有可能舉例來說譬如說一層他就放在婦女性別人權這個主題上我覺得我今天只是跟你說是不是文化部可以去評估看看部長覺得呢\n其實我剛剛也被質詢到說這個地方是白色恐怖為主的一些展覽那事實上我來到文化部之後我就希望我們人權館開始推出大型的電影就是講人權電影人權電影裡面就有像剛剛您提到的婦女與性別的人權\n就是說人群不再限於只有白色恐怖這樣的這個歷史記錄所以您剛才提的我不敢立刻回答你是因為我來的時候他已經開始動工了我得了解一下他裡面原來的一些內容我再回答你\n當然我想其實地點是不是在那個部分可能有很多要考慮的那我想今天就請部長能夠承諾開始研議第一個婦女性別人權管的可能規劃第二個那很明確的展出應該要含納各歷史時期推動爭取女性權益跟性別平權的過程這樣可以嗎可以那部長我這個時間多一點好了那個是不是您覺得多少時間可以給我一個初步的報告呢\n大概3個月要不要?好沒問題3個月因為這個好事需要多一點時間來琢磨謝謝部長辛苦了\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.169 --> 00:10.096\n范雲召委質詢謝謝召委有請部長有請李部長\n\n00:17.447 --> 00:46.970\n范委員你好部長早安今天有三件事情要跟您討論第一件事情就是我想我有聽到部長講國發基金有四大百億投資在文創產業的部分應該是第二個百億吧文化部打算如何讓基金有更好的發揮創造台流不會只有韓流我想這個部分是不是請部長可以說明一下\n\n00:48.171 --> 01:13.225\n首先外面有點誤會就是國發基金跟我們的輔導金其實國發基金是一個投資的概念投資就是剛開始是投資公司後來同意我們投資專案所以我要非常感謝我們的國發會的劉主委我一上任第一件事情就拜託他給我們下一個100億為什麼呢因為大家都知道如果我們沒有足夠的錢我們完全\n\n01:14.065 --> 01:42.251\n委員會在這個產業中消失因為韓國跟日本的那個投在文創產業包括影視產業的錢是遠遠超過我們10倍20倍的所以這個100億非常重要就是我們得用這個100億來去投資鼓勵民間的資金引到我們整個文創產業先是建立幾個基金比如說我前面已經報告過中華電信遠傳大哥大我們先去尋找這些已經擁有這個\n\n01:44.732 --> 01:44.752\n﹚范雲\n\n02:01.906 --> 02:01.926\n﹚范雲\n\n02:18.644 --> 02:39.981\n另外三分之二就要民間拿錢出來所以這一百億第一件事情就是做這個第二件事情就是找國際合作找國際合作亞洲韓國或者國際的美國他們那些大公司我們也跟他一起合作最希望就是我們的影片拍出來可以賣到全世界的市場那這個真的需要我們政府先拿出第一筆錢\n\n02:40.842 --> 03:02.783\n好那謝部長那聽起來部長有非常積極的爭取到就是這樣子一個100億那希望國發基金可以真的點燃我們文創產業的火花那當然也希望後續申請各方面的部分都能夠讓我們文化工作者覺得能夠更符合他們的需求那我相信文化部在努力中\n\n03:03.564 --> 03:28.559\n那再來我也想請問部長這個黃流票的部分那部長應該有注意到就是其實就雨多田光這個新聞報導中你就有看到說的確已經開始有這個實名制而且會大幅減少不正常的搶票行為那之前我們本來希望修法讓文化部在法規中就要求實名制可是當時文化部是說用\n\n03:29.079 --> 03:29.099\n﹚范雲﹚\n\n03:56.836 --> 04:17.399\n隨機票價之後就變成2萬6那我們辦公室繼續去了解的情況就發現說問題出在說第一個我們目前鼓勵業者實名制售票的這個成效還是不佳第二個就是檢舉難以成案\n\n04:18.419 --> 04:43.869\n我們收到陳情就是我今年4月也有問文化部目前檢舉的標準真的太嚴格了以你們創造的這個表單來講你等於是要先買黃牛票才能夠查黃牛票我也問了文化部文化部留給我很長的內容我發現文化部留給我的內容讀起來看好像怎麼改善\n\n04:45.049 --> 05:13.800\n你們就是一下修要說要根據修社會秩序維護法一下就是說文創這個上次修過的法還不夠還要再修我是其實是覺得有一點點失望欸上一次就是好不容易大家這樣大修之後可是當時文化部的版本沒有預測到執行還是有問題現在跟我們提的方式說不然修社會秩序維護法要不然文創法什麼某一條還要再修那到底\n\n05:14.620 --> 05:39.678\n有沒有可能在就是真的要再修法還是你們目前的行政作為就是降低檢舉門檻是不是可以做到的因為就我自己來研究的話也許你就降低檢舉的門檻要針對黃牛的圖利行為而非販售事後才追查因為我看你們給我的資料臺北市光是資料不全的就600多件那已經資料齊全的\n\n05:43.220 --> 06:11.534\n如果沒有記錯的話兩三百件中好像只有九件各位數被裁罰光是資料符合之後都只有就是這麼低的筆數被裁罰那資料不全的那個以台北市你們給我的資料中法上路之後到現在六百多件都是資料不全你是不是可以針對這個部分好好的檢討那我現在提供兩個方向部長看看是不是可以\n\n06:13.323 --> 06:27.050\n實名制還是要更積極的加強鼓勵業者使用就像我剛剛講的那個報導中他如果學習日本就是並用實名制的話大幅下降那業者的困難到底是什麼也許我們可以一起來協助為什麼他們不想要用實名制\n\n06:30.171 --> 06:55.887\n那第二個檢舉的標準是不是可以落實那我這邊提兩個就是能不能夠就以他的行為面在販售而不是說我要釣魚因為我今天買到票才有第幾排這幾個位子嗎那買到票之後不就變成共犯了他就不會來檢舉了那如果這個行為出現的時候然後轉售票合理成本的種類跟比例那這個部分是不是也能夠明定那部長是不是可以簡短回答因為我待會還有一題要請問您\n\n06:58.717 --> 06:58.737\n﹚范雲\n\n07:14.344 --> 07:38.616\n好,那請部長一個月內給我一個報告好不好?初步的報告可以齁?另外我想剛剛有委員談到性別平等部長應該知道我們是亞洲最性別平等的國家可是我們卻沒有一個國家級的婦女性別人權館我們有這麼多的重要歷史世界跟人權婦女性別團體的努力\n\n07:39.456 --> 07:58.398\n我們辦公室去了解說南韓在婦女權益比我們差很多可是他們已經有婦女歷史館戰爭與女性人權博物館不管是慰安婦或者轉型正義中的女性的資料烏克蘭也都有相關的而是他們性別平權的指數都還不比我們\n\n07:59.099 --> 08:11.680\n所以請問部長如果台灣要設立婦女性別人權管您覺得可以如何規劃呢?第一個您就是認不認同應該要這樣管第二個如果要規劃您覺得可以怎麼規劃呢?\n\n08:14.215 --> 08:40.233\n其實台灣的婦女的人權的確在全世界的排名是非常前面的所以如果我們要成立一個人權管可能他就是要一個我們在性別的奮鬥的過程中有足夠的歷史但是這個社管這件事情牽涉到行政院的一些管所的那個結構這點你問我要如何規劃我一下還沒想出來\n\n08:42.055 --> 09:02.294\n對部長還沒想出來但是我謝謝你很認同那你還沒想出方法我最近想了半天想到一個方法跟部長請議我知道你們這個人權館展示的典藏大樓在4月開工那雖然開工前那部長應該有聽聞有一些爭議嘛人權館不同的想法可是看起來已經來不及了\n\n09:02.754 --> 09:29.700\n就是就在開工了因為這是一個重要的工程又有預算所以我想到的是文化部是不是可以評估那當然也找我們婦女跟人權團性別團體一起人權團一起討論這中間居然這麼多層的話有沒有可能舉例來說譬如說一層他就放在婦女性別人權這個主題上我覺得我今天只是跟你說是不是文化部可以去評估看看部長覺得呢\n\n09:31.192 --> 09:48.963\n其實我剛剛也被質詢到說這個地方是白色恐怖為主的一些展覽那事實上我來到文化部之後我就希望我們人權館開始推出大型的電影就是講人權電影人權電影裡面就有像剛剛您提到的婦女與性別的人權\n\n09:49.904 --> 10:03.940\n就是說人群不再限於只有白色恐怖這樣的這個歷史記錄所以您剛才提的我不敢立刻回答你是因為我來的時候他已經開始動工了我得了解一下他裡面原來的一些內容我再回答你\n\n10:04.921 --> 10:34.390\n當然我想其實地點是不是在那個部分可能有很多要考慮的那我想今天就請部長能夠承諾開始研議第一個婦女性別人權管的可能規劃第二個那很明確的展出應該要含納各歷史時期推動爭取女性權益跟性別平權的過程這樣可以嗎可以那部長我這個時間多一點好了那個是不是您覺得多少時間可以給我一個初步的報告呢\n\n10:35.516 --> 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測到執行還是有問題，現在向我們提出的方式是，要嘛就是修社會秩序維護法，不然就是文創法的某一條還要再修，到底有沒有可能真的要再修法？還是修正你們目前的行政作為，也就是降低檢舉門檻，這個是不是可以做到？就我自己的研究，也許你們就降低檢舉的門檻，應該針對黃牛的圖利行為，而非販售事後才追查。根據你們給我的資料，臺北市光是資料不全的就有六百多件，即使是資料齊全的，如果我沒記錯的話，二、三百件中好像只有個位數的9件被裁罰。光是資料符合之後都只有這麼低的件數被裁罰，那麼資料不全的部分，以臺北市為例，根據你們給我的資料，在法上路之後到現在有六百多件都是資料不全，你們是不是可以針對這個部分好好檢討？","我現在提供兩個方向，部長看看是不是可以？第一個，還是要更積極地加強鼓勵業者使用實名制，就像我剛剛講的那則報導，如果學習日本併用實名制就可以大幅降低不正常的搶票行為。業者的困難到底是什麼，為什麼他們不想用實名制？也許我們可以一起來協助；第二個，檢舉的標準是不是可以落實？我這邊提出兩點，能不能就針對他們販售的行為面，而不是我們用釣魚的方式？因為今天要買到票才有第幾排第幾個位置，但買到票之後不就變成共犯，民眾就不會檢舉了，如果這個行為出現的時候，轉售票合理成本的種類與比例，這個部分是不是也能夠明定？部長是不是可以簡短回答，因為我待會還有一題要請問你。"],["李部長遠：其實我們試著用各種方式，就像剛剛委員講的，沒有錯，因為我們得提供票券的資訊才能夠檢舉等等，弄得很繁瑣，針對委員剛剛講的幾點，我們會再重新討論，看看哪個是比較有效的方式。"],["范委員雲：請部長一個月內給我一份報告，好不好？"],["李部長遠：好。"],["范委員雲：初步的報告，可以嗎？"],["李部長遠：可以。"],["范委員雲：另外，剛剛有委員談到性別平等，部長應該知道我們是亞洲最性別平等的國家，但是我們卻沒有一個國家級的婦女與性別人權館，況且我們有這麼多重要的歷史事件以及人權、婦女與性別團體的努力。根據我們辦公室的了解，南韓的婦女權益比我們差很多，但是他們已經有婦女歷史館、戰爭與女性人權博物館，無論是慰安婦或轉型正義中的女性資料都有保存，而且烏克蘭相關的性別平權指數都還比不上我們，因此，請問部長，如果臺灣要設立婦女與性別人權館，你覺得可以如何規劃？第一個，你認不認同應該要有這樣的館？第二個，如果要規劃的話，你覺得要如何規劃呢？"],["李部長遠：其實臺灣婦女人權在全世界的排名確實是非常前面，如果我們要成立一個人權館，可能就是要能彰顯出我們在性別奮鬥過程中有足夠的歷史，但是設館這件事情牽涉到行政院一些館所的結構，你問我要如何規劃，我現在還沒想出來，但是我會努力想一想。"],["范委員雲：部長，雖然你還沒想出來，但是我謝謝你很認同，最近我想了半天想到了一個方法，在這裡向部長請益。我知道你們的人權館展示典藏大樓已經在4月開工，在開工前部長應該也聽聞過一些爭議，人權團體有一些不同的想法，但看起來已經來不及了，因為這是一個有預算的重要工程，最後還是開工了。我想到文化部是不是可以評估，當然也要找我們的婦女及性別人權團體一起討論，既然這棟大樓有這麼多層，有沒有可能，譬如一層就放在婦女性別人權這個主題上？今天我只是提議文化部是不是可以評估看看，部長覺得呢？"],["李部長遠：其實剛剛我也被質詢到這個地方是白色恐怖為主的一些展覽，事實上，我來到文化部之後是希望人權館能開始推出大型的人權電影，也包含委員剛剛提到的婦女性別人權，也就是人權不再限於只有白色恐怖的歷史紀錄。對於你剛剛的提問，我不敢立刻回答，因為我來的時候它已經開始動工了，所以我得了解它裡面的一些內容再回答你。"],["范委員雲：其實地點是不是在那裡，可能有很多要考慮的事情，我想今天就請部長承諾能夠開始研議，第一個，婦女與性別人權館的可能規劃；第二個，很明確的展出應該要含納各歷史時期推動爭取女性權益與性別平權的過程，這樣可以嗎？"],["李部長遠：可以。"],["范委員雲：部長，你覺得需要多少時間可以給我一份初步的報告呢？"],["李部長遠：大概3個月。"],["范委員雲：好，沒問題，3個月，好事需要多一點時間來琢磨，謝謝部長，辛苦了。"],["李部長遠：謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝范雲委員，請部長先回座。","現在開始處理臨時提案，今天有委員提出臨時提案共計1案。","請宣讀。","台灣流行音樂過去有良好基礎，曾引領全亞洲；在獨立音樂上，亦有傑出創作量能；嘻哈音樂在近年也有令人矚目之發展，因此建請研議以下事項：","一、文策院對嘻哈等流行音樂產業，加強支持，如投資媒合促進。","二、文化部影視局應與文策院一同提升對流行音樂之輔導、補助，在創作、音樂相關IP、展演與國際傳播各方面予以支持，以拓展台流的國內與國外市場。","提案人：吳沛憶　林宜瑾　　陳培瑜"],["主席：請問提案委員及各位委員有沒有補充或要說明的意見？（無）好，沒有。部長，有沒有補充的意見？"],["李部長遠：遵照辦理。"],["主席：好，沒有意見，照案通過。如果有委員要補簽提案，請議事人員詳細登載於議事錄。","接下來繼續進行質詢。","下一位請陳菁徽委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":382,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-22-5","speakers":["萬美玲","林倩綺","洪孟楷","柯志恩","葉元之","陳培瑜","林宜瑾","羅廷瑋","陳秀寳","葛如鈞","張雅琳","郭昱晴","吳沛憶","吳春城","范雲","陳菁徽","楊瓊瓔","徐富癸","郭國文","王鴻薇","陳亭妃","林楚茵","何欣純","蔡易餘","邱志偉","賴惠員","涂權吉","高金素梅"],"page_start":309,"meetingDate":["2024-10-23"],"gazette_id":"1138901","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1138901_00006"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第5次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請文化部部長李遠列席報告業務概況，並備質詢","agenda_id":"1138901_00005"}}}