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00:03:18,682\n我們整個黑潮計畫在台劇內容升級計畫是4.8億但是最後補助了超過5億我跟你講文化部常常這樣子啦預算都是假的預算說4.8億然後最後補助超過5億但是我剛才講到的這個臨日戰爭拿了超過7千萬另外有一個台北創造電影公司拿了8千萬\n\n10\n00:03:31,866 --> 00:03:44,454\n你叫這兩家公司啊就把這4.8億的三成通通拿走啊你讓其他的台聚的公司台聚的團隊情何以堪啊預算4.8億前兩名獨佔額頭就拿了三成的金額是怎樣其他的很差嗎他們最棒棒嗎\n\n11\n00:03:59,218 --> 00:04:07,825\n所以部長我提醒你喔當時超時的時候不管是陳吉仲或者陳俊濟部長都說沒有問題絕對沒有問題現在他們都不敢講話了啦\n\n12\n00:04:12,168 --> 00:04:34,837\n所以這個案子你要去了解因為黑潮計畫還在執行也許換了一個部長可能有不同的團隊可以比較能夠得到青睞另外跟部長講的是這個寧日戰爭他不但是我們的黑潮計畫給他了7131萬國發基金他也拿了4100萬\n\n13\n00:04:41,499 --> 00:04:56,294\n整個拿到政府的比例之高都將近到50%了所以我要講的政府資源非常有限而且我們還是給文化部編這麼多的錢這麼多的錢去集中到極少數的公司合理嗎台劇只有他這一個嗎那其他人要拍的時候錢到哪裡去了呢\n\n14\n00:05:05,273 --> 00:05:24,045\n所以部長請你能夠我是因為說你現在上任的時間並不長也半年了好好瞭解一下這個案子等到它被辦的時候當然因為這不在你任內但是你就不要重蹈覆轍好不好\n\n15\n00:05:27,087 --> 00:05:53,059\n剛剛委員講說我辦過電影學校我不但辦過電影學校我還在中央電影公司工作8年拍了100部電影所以對於電影的這個行業我非常懂其實電影跟超市部長針對問題一家一家公司再給你20秒通常我們一家公司為什麼要一片公司是找了十幾家投資公司正好成立一家公司大家把資金擺進去等到片子拍完之後賣完了\n\n16\n00:05:53,359 --> 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