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00:00:07,953\n謝謝美麗的主席辛苦了這個到了中午有請我們文化部李部長好有請李部長\n\n2\n00:00:13,797 --> 00:00:39,955\n好部長這個我想有關於售票的部分實名制喔欸第一張我想很多委員都問了我節省時間喔我就只問就是現在實名制當然造成了許多的亂象那麼身為主管機關當然輔導是非常重要的不只是輔導業者啦民眾可能也要被教育但是今天早上喔因為大家都在問周杰倫的這個部分喔您說您非常討厭周杰倫是嗎\n\n3\n00:00:41,577 --> 00:00:43,769\n要不要再做一點解釋啊這真的跟周杰倫有關嗎\n\n4\n00:00:45,359 --> 00:01:14,999\n就從剛剛講到吳宗憲也好周杰倫也好其實我都認識我的語言是開玩笑的就像吳宗憲他是一個綜藝大咖我們都很熟周杰倫我也訪問過他我剛剛講的恨是因為他造成我今天從頭到尾被一直問同一個題目所以今天變成是我們教育文化委員會的關鍵字剩下周杰倫三個字因為我覺得我可以回答的問題很多我也準備了很多答案結果一直在被問周杰倫所以我說我恨他是開玩笑的\n\n5\n00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:45,179\n好,所以這個只是一個玩笑話但最重要的還是怎麼樣把演唱會的實名制推下去而不是上有政策下有對策我覺得這蠻重要前面很多委員都問了那我就來問一個我自己長期一直非常關注的就是有關於到底我們現在能不能有一個所謂的建架平台這個平台是剛剛有委員垂詢到就是有關於這個到底怎麼樣來推動我們的文創您在報告上面特別寫到了這個黑潮黑潮現在被在野黨的委員抓著打\n\n6\n00:01:45,639 --> 00:01:59,939\n原因就是因為政府部門包括文化部包括其他的這個我們的中華電信等等這種所謂國營企業加入但是我們都知道最近最熟的一首歌叫做apt\n\n7\n00:02:01,499 --> 00:02:25,550\n我不知道部長知不知道APART他其實是一個BLACKPINK裡面的一個團員叫ROSE他最近跟BLOOMUS出了這一首歌馬上洗腦然後變成是透過這個大型的哥倫比亞公司跟這個ROSE再加BLOOMUS他們出了這一首APARTAPART其實根本就是一個韓國的酒桌遊戲現在大家都知道了\n\n8\n00:02:26,030 --> 00:02:44,796\n所以我們就知道流行音樂他需要的是帶入本土然後需要的背後是資金我長期在關注就是說我們這些文創到底資金從哪裡來如果業界有資金哪裡需要文化部哪裡需要國營企業一起加入但是最怕的是什麼\n\n9\n00:02:45,256 --> 00:03:07,671\n就是這些要推動文創的時候這些資產的建架平台無法去真的對於這些無形的未來充滿潛力的資產來做評估本席過去一直在財政委員會我們來看到這個台灣金服裡面有一個無形資產的建架平台但是在2017年他就死掉了再來就沒有任何原因是因為什麼\n\n10\n00:03:08,331 --> 00:03:31,043\n因爲銀行不敢去估價或者是銀行認為我沒有估價能力我如果估錯價我要賠錢的那麼文策院或者是文化部基本上我們現在都知道文化部有個文策院文策院在做很多文創產業的評估對不對他一定有一套建價的過程所以本席要問的很簡單就是部長以你過去在產業界面臨過這麼多\n\n11\n00:03:33,964 --> 00:04:00,408\n資金短缺的時候文化部有沒有可能結合金管會跟臺灣金服我們找出能夠做欠價的人才來協助銀行願意貸款給這些充滿潛力潛能的文創產業但是重點就來了部長這裡如果金管會願意做金管會彭金龍主委也告訴我他要做那文化部能不能提供軟性的資源\n\n12\n00:04:00,988 --> 00:04:08,947\n就像是我們經濟部過去要發展工業可以有工業局一樣我們文化部能不能有人才來協助內容建架部長\n\n13\n00:04:09,841 --> 00:04:35,761\n目前逐漸我拿拍電影來講已經從導演製片製片製片就是在控制預算跟收入所以如果金管會願意做這件事的話我當然很願意幫忙業者不然他們在銀行借不到錢要抵押房子然後沒辦法告訴別人說我可以賺多少錢所以我們如果能夠幫助到這一點可以有助於他從民間找到資金到銀行借錢這點我是很願意的\n\n14\n00:04:36,001 --> 00:05:02,242\n好所以部長因為時間有限我只剛剛聽到你的承諾說只要金管會要做文化部可以出人所以我要求一個金管會加文化部再加台灣金服的一個所謂跨部會的會議好不好然後我們一起來協助這些需要資金的文創業者能夠在銀行借的到錢那這個平台死掉沒關係但是我們後續來做因為後面我看到蔡董事長在後頭\n\n15\n00:05:03,323 --> 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