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00:03:20,732\n好已經收場了那這個部分也就是我接下來要再延伸的一個問題所以這個部分是不是請你們有一個具體的回應讓本席知道目前這個case進展到什麼樣一個程度那接下來是這個文化資產法跟這個鐵道的一個\n\n9\n00:03:26,715 --> 00:03:35,056\n臺鐵有臺鐵文化保存及活用小組你們會定期的開會所以剛才本席在一開始覺得怎麼你們現在還會出現這個以前文資剛開始在推動時候的這個狀況是有點蠻難思議的但是這個部分呢本席其實今天要講的阿里山鐵道雖然你們現在在這個主管單位農業部是佔很大的一個比例不過裡面有一些移購\n\n10\n00:03:50,720 --> 00:04:12,302\n跟他現有的一些財產是跟你們有關的所以待會兩件事情本期第一個是要談有形文化資產跟無形文化資產的一個連結那臺鐵過去在這個阿里山鐵道他是整個走這個阿里山鐵道上去的但是你們知道這裡面有很多原住民族的部落\n\n11\n00:04:12,802 --> 00:04:35,066\n可是這樣一個有形的文化資產跟原住民族的無形文化資產的一個聯動我想交通部這邊應該在你們觀光推動小組裡面去把這個部分給連結起來也就是你們路政司還有公務局應該去檢討這整個的連結是不是可以更活絡讓大家更能夠連結這個山上跟部落\n\n12\n00:04:35,566 --> 00:04:45,185\n的這樣一個系統是就觀光的程度這個確實是應該要連結起來然後也跟部落做一個商討那未來應該怎麼發展對觀光的推動會有幫助\n\n13\n00:04:46,750 --> 00:05:13,203\n所以這邊我就是你們的觀光推動小組的功能應該要再更積極一點那大家不要互推責任因為就如上次我跟部長這邊講常常你說這不是我的業務那不是我的業務但是當我們今天談舊鐵道還有文資這樣一個概念全台我們不可能在整個清朝時期然後一直到這個日本政府時期一直到現在我們的鐵道其實是佔了臺灣很大一個比例\n\n14\n00:05:13,923 --> 00:05:34,671\n所以在文化資產方面的各種等級都必須要被考量但是阿里山鐵道有一個跟你們有關係的部分是那個車廂現在大家都在做測試但是安全係數是一個很嚴重的問題這個安全係數上過去的生鐵是在木頭現在生鐵要在旅客那我們知道\n\n15\n00:05:35,291 --> 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