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00:00:34,094\n杜委員你好部長你好本席在10月9號的時候那時候在內政委員會針對文化部對於國家語言的書面建議用語的定名那時候有請教了我們的理事長那時候因為時間不夠今天再請教一下部長\n\n3\n00:00:35,834 --> 00:00:54,655\n上次我們針對文化部書面建議用語的定名原則其中一項是名從主人也就是說講這個話自稱是什麼話我們就用這個來命名另外一個原則就是限縮不合宜或者不符合族群的期待的名稱是這樣子來命名是不是\n\n4\n00:00:55,516 --> 00:01:22,614\n是啊對那時候我們也有質疑就是本系列之一說那時候在電話調查中我們稱我們現在自己講的是國語的人多於華語可是為什麼文化部以至於還有我們民進黨執政向下的各部會現在的文書中都把它稱為華語而不是稱國語在日本人統治台灣的時候日本人用的國語就是日文\n\n5\n00:01:24,025 --> 00:01:24,946\n日及24日二天一次會介紹．\n\n6\n00:01:43,648 --> 00:02:07,767\n華語在台灣的發展已經跟原來我們想像中的北京語有很大的變化我覺得語言是一個流動的就是經過一段時間的隔閡以後這個語言會慢慢的受到當地其他不同的族群的改變所以台灣的華語以及不同於中國的北京語是因為它受到長期以來受到我們這邊其他族群的影響\n\n7\n00:02:08,447 --> 00:02:27,103\n我想是這樣解釋因為我們針對我們有一個民從主人也就是說講這個話的人自稱是什麼話所以那時候你們有說我們的台灣閩南語因為大家都都說希望說是台灣台語所以用這個民從主人所以我們才說那用民從主人的說法來講\n\n8\n00:02:27,904 --> 00:02:54,838\n那大家都說國語然後你們又堅持要用華語我們只是覺得好像是一個兩套標準那沒關係還有針對我們選擇用語的時候我們除了考慮講的人的想法我覺得我們應該也要在乎我們台灣這片土地聽的感受也必須要兼顧像這河洛語官方建議台灣台語那現在也很多客家跟原住民的族群\n\n9\n00:02:55,518 --> 00:02:55,538\n委員會議員\n\n10\n00:03:11,553 --> 00:03:26,617\n那不知道部長有沒有什麼想法就是我剛剛有特別強調語言是一種非常自然的發展比如說如果你住在一個沒有客家人的一個地方住了50年以後遇到客家人他告訴你說你是荷洛人\n\n11\n00:03:27,017 --> 00:03:52,548\n他會聽不太懂這點我希望我們不要因為語言造成大家互相的好像怕說變成一個霸權我希望大家互相欣賞別人的語言因為每種語言都有它的美麗就像我對客家語我不太會講可是我幫助客委會做過很多客家音樂劇我完全不會否定就是我們去欣賞不同語言我們也是希望多元族群大家平等平權語言也是一樣那部長廟下也是客家人對不對\n\n12\n00:03:58,312 --> 00:04:11,281\n我們希望我們十幾年來推動的克與保留跟復興那像我們現任的克委會主委其實他也很客氣他說要尊重文化部其實克委會在110年的就有\n\n13\n00:04:11,901 --> 00:04:25,035\n發表他們的意見建議稱為臺灣閩南語那現在也很多的客家大佬跟原住民族群都不希望臺語這個詞彙變成一個族群所獨占代表說臺灣的臺語變成臺灣的代表\n\n14\n00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:53,674\n所以我們希望文化部不要只以從主人原則當唯一的考量那像我們官方頒訂的書面建議用語我們希望能夠取捨可能造成長遠的影響不要成為幾代之後扼殺台灣族群多元語言還有多元文化的罪人希望這一部分部長能夠來給我們協助好不好\n\n15\n00:04:55,835 --> 00:05:17,407\n我希望每種語言都被尊重然後不要像過去那樣子只獨尊華語然後壓抑所有的語言所以那個語言法的出來就是國家語言尊重每一種在台灣大家使用的語言我覺得大家都把它討論到是語言的稱呼我覺得是有點好像原來不是這個意思原來是我們不能夠獨尊華語\n\n16\n00:05:19,268 --> 00:05:46,225\n這樣子一個政策我們是說以目前來講其實並沒有什麼紛爭並沒有必要刻意去推動這臺灣台語造成族群之間彼此和諧的問題所以我們一直認為說多元族群尊重他的歷史文化多元語言多元文化我們平等平權我覺得這是最重要的好不好我會盡量推動對所有語言的非常公平對待好謝謝部長\n\n17\n00:05:47,588 --> 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